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2014-03-01 05:43:54 PM  
That's why I keep all of my bitcoins safe at Mt. Gox.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-01 05:52:25 PM  
This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.
 
2014-03-01 06:07:04 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-01 06:07:15 PM  

433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.


What like how the Nazis set up checkpoints demanding people to present proof of citizenship?
 
2014-03-01 06:12:28 PM  

duffblue: 433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.

What like how the Nazis set up checkpoints demanding people to present proof of citizenship?


Some day they're going to ask us things like "Please provide papers that you exist or else we will be forced to cause your fleshbody to expire since you're not real."
 
2014-03-01 06:16:00 PM  
cdn3.volusion.com
 
2014-03-01 06:16:48 PM  
The level of retardation with the TSA has reached epic per portions Just when you thought the derp and herp couldn't get any thicker, they are looking for coins that don't exist. Seems more like they were interested in stealing his valuables than looking for an actual threat. Seems more like a mugging than a security check.
 
2014-03-01 06:17:22 PM  

433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.


WHAAAT? Somebody who travels to libertarian conferences and posts to Daily Anarchist acted like a selfish, self-involved dick? GTFO.
 
2014-03-01 06:19:37 PM  
Textbook example of looking for trouble.

I fly enough to find trouble without looking for it.
 
2014-03-01 06:23:23 PM  
Rough translation: Guy acts like gigantic douche to security personnel. Security personnel, seeing he is wearing a bitcoin shirt and has a collection of bitcoin in his luggage buttons, decides to use that as an excuse to screw with him a bit.
 
2014-03-01 06:23:44 PM  
Read the first paragraph, wondered what I am reading, looked at the sitename and decided to not waste my time. I'm sure this well adjusted individual is an objective reporter and all but no way I'm reading a wall of text like that on a site that calls itself the daily anarchist.
 
2014-03-01 06:27:55 PM  
1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.
 
gja
2014-03-01 06:30:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.


LOL. So much win in that right there. I larfed so very loud and snorty.
 
2014-03-01 06:34:07 PM  
As much as I hate the TSA the guy is just making problems for himself trying to be some kind of activist.

You let THEM make the first strike.
 
gja
2014-03-01 06:34:18 PM  

Gyrfalcon: trying to locate cloud storage


OMG! I found where it all is!
www.blogto.com

/shhh, don't let the terists know
 
2014-03-01 06:34:49 PM  
there is this younger guy at work, friend of mine. (say 30ish) and a couple of months ago he was telling every one how bitcoins were the way of the FUTURE (say future to yourself the 50's newscaster voice). and me with an onion tied to my belt asked what backed up the virtual currency? he said nothing backs it up, just like the U.S. currency. I said yes, we are not on a gold standard anymore, but the United States is a real thing. It is a tangible thing. if something exists in cyberspace, it's not real, it's a fantasy that exists only as long as people believe it does.
/let's say everyone who has any vested interest in mtgox said "oh, wait the money really is still there, our bad"
//so this unicorn money is suddenly back again?
///like I said the U.S. is a thing, Russia is a thing.
////bitcoins are smoke and mirrors. just  Ponzi scheme for those get in early, rip every other sap off, then disappear with the money.
////then who do you call? fdic? visa? ghostbusters?
 
2014-03-01 06:35:12 PM  
Yeah, I'm sure a website that thinks that "anarcho-capitalism" exists is going to be credible.
 
2014-03-01 06:37:10 PM  

gja: Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.

LOL. So much win in that right there. I larfed so very loud and snorty.


Oo! Thanks for the TF!!
 
2014-03-01 06:38:27 PM  
We live in a free society with individual rights where one must submit to authority in a properly submissive and respectful manner no matter what that authority demands and have the same beliefs as the mainstream.
 
2014-03-01 06:42:27 PM  

433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.


yeah, you're probably right

except he wasn't the one who told the TSA guy not to touch his dick

but yeah, if your are behind, beside, or, generally, in the vicinity of someone who doesn't treat them with total respect, they're probably well within their rights to violate your rights
 
2014-03-01 06:42:47 PM  

leadmetal: We live in a free society with individual rights where one must submit to authority in a properly submissive and respectful manner no matter what that authority demands and have the same beliefs as the mainstream.


You say that like it's a bad thing, but it really is true especially if you replace "the mainstream" with "me".
 
2014-03-01 06:44:50 PM  
I only deal in dogecoin.  wow.  no search.  so not finding them.  such win.
 
2014-03-01 06:45:23 PM  
nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com
 
rpm
2014-03-01 06:45:25 PM  

bigbobowski: there is this younger guy at work, friend of mine. (say 30ish) and a couple of months ago he was telling every one how bitcoins were the way of the FUTURE (say future to yourself the 50's newscaster voice). and me with an onion tied to my belt asked what backed up the virtual currency? he said nothing backs it up, just like the U.S. currency. I said yes, we are not on a gold standard anymore, but the United States is a real thing. It is a tangible thing. if something exists in cyberspace, it's not real, it's a fantasy that exists only as long as people believe it does.
/let's say everyone who has any vested interest in mtgox said "oh, wait the money really is still there, our bad"
//so this unicorn money is suddenly back again?
///like I said the U.S. is a thing, Russia is a thing.
////bitcoins are smoke and mirrors. just  Ponzi scheme for those get in early, rip every other sap off, then disappear with the money.
////then who do you call? fdic? visa? ghostbusters?


US is a real thing. US currency? Notsomuch. It's only real because we say it is, nothing more. Most USD doesn't physically exist either, it's just numbers in a computer. Remember the savings and loans crash?
 
2014-03-01 06:49:39 PM  
Also:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-01 06:59:16 PM  

rpm: bigbobowski: there is this younger guy at work, friend of mine. (say 30ish) and a couple of months ago he was telling every one how bitcoins were the way of the FUTURE (say future to yourself the 50's newscaster voice). and me with an onion tied to my belt asked what backed up the virtual currency? he said nothing backs it up, just like the U.S. currency. I said yes, we are not on a gold standard anymore, but the United States is a real thing. It is a tangible thing. if something exists in cyberspace, it's not real, it's a fantasy that exists only as long as people believe it does.
/let's say everyone who has any vested interest in mtgox said "oh, wait the money really is still there, our bad"
//so this unicorn money is suddenly back again?
///like I said the U.S. is a thing, Russia is a thing.
////bitcoins are smoke and mirrors. just  Ponzi scheme for those get in early, rip every other sap off, then disappear with the money.
////then who do you call? fdic? visa? ghostbusters?

US is a real thing. US currency? Notsomuch. It's only real because we say it is, nothing more. Most USD doesn't physically exist either, it's just numbers in a computer. Remember the savings and loans crash?


U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.
 
2014-03-01 07:00:10 PM  

433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.


Mmmm. A TSA apologetic; this tastes better to my eye-tongues than the finest of conservative tears.
 
2014-03-01 07:03:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.


I'm more concerned about what happens if it rains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnxrJiS5uKU

(and I really want one of those open air audio recorders)
 
rpm
2014-03-01 07:16:10 PM  
mbillips:
U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.

How many debt standoffs have there been lately? Trust is a fragile thing.
 
2014-03-01 07:19:32 PM  

rpm: mbillips:
U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.

How many debt standoffs have there been lately? Trust is a fragile thing.


Yeah. And when the us was down graded the markets were so scared that they pulled money out of the markets and invested in the us debt.
 
2014-03-01 07:20:59 PM  

tjassen: Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.

I'm more concerned about what happens if it rains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnxrJiS5uKU

(and I really want one of those open air audio recorders)


Oh, indeed. And a tornado would be even worse! All that data would get all mixed up with other data in other clouds!

How much do those open air audio recorders cost? I'd be interested in a, er, bulk discount.
 
2014-03-01 07:23:49 PM  
Ok.
1. Douche at airport.
2. Acts like douche.
3. Gets treated like douche.
4. Whines like a douche.
5. Writes long-winded douche-blog.

Why didn't TSA just shoot him? I'd watch it on YouTube.
 
2014-03-01 07:24:24 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The level of retardation with the TSA has reached epic per portions Just when you thought the derp and herp couldn't get any thicker, they are looking for coins that don't exist. Seems more like they were interested in stealing his valuables than looking for an actual threat. Seems more like a mugging than a security check.


Yet we allow it.
 
2014-03-01 07:25:58 PM  
TL;DR.

Sorry.
 
2014-03-01 07:27:15 PM  
rpm:

US is a real thing. US currency? Notsomuch. It's only real because we say it is, nothing more. Most USD doesn't physically exist either, it's just numbers in a computer. Remember the savings and loans crash?

Almost all money is bookkeeping, even money backed by gold
 
2014-03-01 07:28:31 PM  

dahmers love zombie: That's why I keep all of my bitcoins safe at Mt. Gox.


I've got some bad news for you, buddy.  <sad trombone>
 
2014-03-01 07:28:41 PM  
Goofus displays suspicious behavior to employees looking for suspicious behavior.

Gallant answers their questions and offers information to explain his strange luggage.

Goofus invites a tense confrontation with jack-booted Nazis and wastes hours being terrified of the sinister security state.

Gallant never meets the jack-booted Nazis and enjoys a pleasant flight.

This idiot is so fortunate he was born white otherwise he'd have never survived his first police pull-over.
 
2014-03-01 07:33:36 PM  

TEA-PARTY-PATRIOT: 433: This guy didn't seem to know the difference between civil inconvenience and making trouble for himself/being a nuisance.  Exercise your rights freely.  Also, nobody likes a dick.  Asking the TSA explicitly to "not touch your dick" doesn't help you sail smoothly.  No one is asking for your allegiance, just your cooperation.  I'm trying hard not to invoke a Godwin.

Mmmm. A TSA apologetic; this tastes better to my eye-tongues than the finest of conservative tears.


If you think that TSA apologists only come from conservative circles then I have some very bad news for you.
 
2014-03-01 07:33:48 PM  

rpm: mbillips:
U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.

How many debt standoffs have there been lately? Trust is a fragile thing.


Resulting in zero defaults, because everyone with any sense (this excludes Tea Partiers) knew those standoffs were a joke. That is a reason to have less trust in the solidity of U.S. currency, but it's not much of a reason. If it were, interest rates would have gone up.
 
2014-03-01 07:43:08 PM  

mbillips: U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.


US currency has only been entirely without metal backing since 1971. Not quite the "224 years" you claim.

Fiat currency has always led to a collapse of that currency, even when the country was otherwise going strong. France is a real country, but they've had three fiat currency collapses so far (1720,1800,1960). Russia remains a superpower, yet their currency collapsed in 1998.

Also, "full faith and trust" means a faith and trust in the US government's ability to pay its bills. As was seen in 2011 and 2013, it only takes a few dozen people to bring the government to its knees and threaten a total collapse of the dollar.
 
2014-03-01 07:45:13 PM  
This is called basically acting like a jerk or dick, as other FARKers have noted
simply to be a pain in the arse.
I used to see a lot of that back in the 60's. Then again, in the 80's.

In the 80's it was psuedo-intellectual Yuppies.

I don't fly, because of the expense, the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off and from entering the terminal to reaching your destination, you're surrounded by noisy, uncaring, seething mobs of people.

So, I don't get to actually encounter the TSA.
 
2014-03-01 07:47:42 PM  

the ha ha guy: mbillips: U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.

US currency has only been entirely without metal backing since 1971. Not quite the "224 years" you claim.

Fiat currency has always led to a collapse of that currency, even when the country was otherwise going strong. France is a real country, but they've had three fiat currency collapses so far (1720,1800,1960). Russia remains a superpower, yet their currency collapsed in 1998.

Also, "full faith and trust" means a faith and trust in the US government's ability to pay its bills. As was seen in 2011 and 2013, it only takes a few dozen people to bring the government to its knees and threaten a total collapse of the dollar.


The dollar is still really, really stable in spite of that thanks to the petrodollar and the strong fundamentals of the American economy. That's not to say that America will be a financial superpower forever, but rather suffer from a very long and gradual decline like previous superpowers such as England, France, and Spain instead of imploding like Russia.
 
2014-03-01 07:47:58 PM  
Hate to say it but the TSA was always more about the War on Drugs (and Money) than it ever was about terrorism. Terrorism is just the excuse to infringe on your civil rights and civil liberties....
 
2014-03-01 07:51:41 PM  
Full stop. State speech is hate speech.

Yeah, I'd stop this guy, too.  Repeatedly.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-01 07:52:10 PM  

Rik01: the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off


I took lsd in LA International before boarding a flight to Hawaii.  It was mostly pleasant, but there was an overarching theme of "I'm in a flying box over the ocean, and I can't see who is piloting the damned thing.  In retrospect, I should not have done that.  It was a relief to land, greeted with a garland of flowers.
 
2014-03-01 07:52:44 PM  
So the TSA doesn't know how bitcoins work, and is concerned man might be flying internationally with greater than $10,000, which must be declared. So instead of saying "no" when asked if he's flying internationally, which would have immediately ended his terrifying ordeal, he argues, won't answer questions and starts peeing in his pants at the prospect of a long holiday at Guantanamo bay.
Thank God his friend Bill was there with his wife to answer the TSA's reasonable question with a simple no. Really scary stuff.
 
2014-03-01 07:57:50 PM  
Just another example of "Those that seek trouble usually find it."

"These aren't the bitcoins you're looking for." *jedi hand wave*
"These aren't the bitcoins we're looking for."
"You can go about your business now." *jedi hand wave*
"You can go about you're business."
"Move along." *jedi hand wave*
"Move along... Move along."
 
2014-03-01 08:00:30 PM  
I couldn't get past the suck of the header on that blog
 
2014-03-01 08:02:55 PM  

www.bitcoinnotbombs.com


Looks to get a reaction, surprised when he gets one.

 
2014-03-01 08:09:09 PM  

rpm: bigbobowski: there is this younger guy at work, friend of mine. (say 30ish) and a couple of months ago he was telling every one how bitcoins were the way of the FUTURE (say future to yourself the 50's newscaster voice). and me with an onion tied to my belt asked what backed up the virtual currency? he said nothing backs it up, just like the U.S. currency. I said yes, we are not on a gold standard anymore, but the United States is a real thing. It is a tangible thing. if something exists in cyberspace, it's not real, it's a fantasy that exists only as long as people believe it does.
/let's say everyone who has any vested interest in mtgox said "oh, wait the money really is still there, our bad"
//so this unicorn money is suddenly back again?
///like I said the U.S. is a thing, Russia is a thing.
////bitcoins are smoke and mirrors. just  Ponzi scheme for those get in early, rip every other sap off, then disappear with the money.
////then who do you call? fdic? visa? ghostbusters?

US is a real thing. US currency? Notsomuch. It's only real because we say it is, nothing more. Most USD doesn't physically exist either, it's just numbers in a computer. Remember the savings and loans crash?

see, here is what you miss, currencies value and devalue. but what I am saying is that despite this, my country the United States exists, we have a sh*t load of land, apparently now I'm told a sh*t load of gas, despite what everyone says we do still make a lot of crap here. plus IT, Tech, all that goes with it.

this is why the world trusts the dollar.
/this is why we can get a loan.
//real things have a value
///bitcoins are for rubes
 
2014-03-01 08:16:58 PM  

Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.


I'm already having problems with airlines and cloud storage; the chemtrails keep infecting my cloud-stored files.
 
2014-03-01 08:18:21 PM  
Just think:  if this guy didn't write a huge blog post about his witty remarks, we'd never know about his bravery and heroism making confronting TSA agents with snide remarks.

The first blow has been struck for the messenger baggers!
 
2014-03-01 08:26:14 PM  

Rik01: This is called basically acting like a jerk or dick, as other FARKers have noted
simply to be a pain in the arse. I used to see a lot of that back in the 60's. Then again, in the 80's.

In the 80's it was psuedo-intellectual Yuppies.

I don't fly, because of the expense, the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off and from entering the terminal to reaching your destination, you're surrounded by noisy, uncaring, seething mobs of people.

So, I don't get to actually encounter the TSA.


Yeah, about that ..  http://www.tsa.gov/about-tsa/visible-intermodal-prevention-and-respon s e-vipr
 
2014-03-01 08:28:42 PM  
The US dollar isn't backed by faith, it's backed by bombs.  Bombs that we drop on people who try to use anything else.
 
2014-03-01 08:33:13 PM  
FTA: "I do not answer the questions of bureaucrats without an attorney present, and neither should you."

Be sure to tune in for next week's episode: Douchey McParanoid and His Lawyer Go To the DMV
 
2014-03-01 08:42:15 PM  
I always opt-out as a tepid protest against the dumb radiation boxes that don't actually do anything, and now I feel dirty for being associated with this douche.
 
2014-03-01 08:53:28 PM  

sjcousins: So the TSA doesn't know how bitcoins work, and is concerned man might be flying internationally with greater than $10,000, which must be declared. So instead of saying "no" when asked if he's flying internationally, which would have immediately ended his terrifying ordeal, he argues, won't answer questions and starts peeing in his pants at the prospect of a long holiday at Guantanamo bay.
Thank God his friend Bill was there with his wife to answer the TSA's reasonable question with a simple no. Really scary stuff.


Apt summary.
 
2014-03-01 09:12:24 PM  

buckler: Gyrfalcon: 1. If you act like a douche,  you'll be treated like a douche.

2. Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.

I'm already having problems with airlines and cloud storage; the chemtrails keep infecting my cloud-stored files.


Wait till they start flying Predator drones over the clouds to take pictures of your cloud-stored files! They can enhance those pics and read everything!
 
2014-03-01 09:38:44 PM  

super_grass: leadmetal: We live in a free society with individual rights where one must submit to authority in a properly submissive and respectful manner no matter what that authority demands and have the same beliefs as the mainstream.

You say that like it's a bad thing, but it really is true especially if you replace "the mainstream" with "me".


So long as one stays within the narrow range defined by media approved electoral choices one is socially acceptable and will still get invited to parties and such.
 
2014-03-01 10:21:32 PM  
At least this time their targeting worked.  Guy with lots of sharp metal in his backpack?  Yeah, search that one.
 
2014-03-01 10:37:57 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: Why didn't TSA just shoot him? I'd watch it on YouTube.


Most TSOs don't carry sidearms.  Please don't give them any ideas.

It's disturbing enough that people making Federal Law Enforcement wages aren't smart enough to figure out that bitcoins aren't physical, or care that it isn't illegal to fly with any amount of any currency inside the US.

What's next?  Confiscating credit cards that have a limit over $10,000?
 
2014-03-01 11:04:01 PM  
In a related piece, 13 years of Nazi douchebaggery has brought forth, wait for it, douchebag backlash.  It's the circle of suck.
 
2014-03-02 12:04:49 AM  

Sticky Hands: [nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com image 848x545]


so here's a funny game

mint a ton of dirt cheap "bit coins" with the symbol and everything.
carry a bunch with you, enough that at the current market rate, if they WERE real bitcoins, would put you over the unconstitutional 10k reporting laws.

get the moron tsa agents to confiscate your cash or require you to report it
sure the feds

sigh
ok
maybe that wont work
HOW ABOUT jsut make then think that they were valuable and confiscate them
then when you collect your property, sue them for theft ... because you KNOW that some of them will have gone missing ....


sigh
 
2014-03-02 12:51:14 AM  

namatad: Sticky Hands: [nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com image 848x545]

so here's a funny game

mint a ton of dirt cheap "bit coins" with the symbol and everything.
carry a bunch with you, enough that at the current market rate, if they WERE real bitcoins, would put you over the unconstitutional 10k reporting laws.

get the moron tsa agents to confiscate your cash or require you to report it
sure the feds

sigh
ok
maybe that wont work
HOW ABOUT jsut make then think that they were valuable and confiscate them
then when you collect your property, sue them for theft ... because you KNOW that some of them will have gone missing ....


sigh


Print up $25k worth of metal bitcoins with serial numbers known to be monitored by the feds. Put them in your luggage where they're easily stealable. Let the jackboots kick themselves in the shins.
 
2014-03-02 01:01:25 AM  

433: Rik01: the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off

I took lsd in LA International before boarding a flight to Hawaii.  It was mostly pleasant, but there was an overarching theme of "I'm in a flying box over the ocean, and I can't see who is piloting the damned thing.  In retrospect, I should not have done that.  It was a relief to land, greeted with a garland of flowers.


I once smoked a bowl just before going to the Vegas airport to fly home. Either the TSA didn't notice I was high as fark, or they didn't care.
 
2014-03-02 01:04:09 AM  

fnordfocus: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Why didn't TSA just shoot him? I'd watch it on YouTube.

Most TSOs don't carry sidearms.  Please don't give them any ideas.

It's disturbing enough that people making Federal Law Enforcement wages aren't smart enough to figure out that bitcoins aren't physical, or care that it isn't illegal to fly with any amount of any currency inside the US.

What's next?  Confiscating credit cards that have a limit over $10,000?


Wages don't equal intellect. I mean, the government advertised TSA jobs on pizza boxes for fark's sake.
 
2014-03-02 01:09:05 AM  

fnordfocus: Whatchoo Talkinbout: Why didn't TSA just shoot him? I'd watch it on YouTube.

Most TSOs don't carry sidearms.  Please don't give them any ideas.

It's disturbing enough that people making Federal Law Enforcement wages aren't smart enough to figure out that bitcoins aren't physical, or care that it isn't illegal to fly with any amount of any currency inside the US.

What's next?  Confiscating credit cards that have a limit over $10,000?


No, first they have to start confiscating Monopoly money, and any video game where they deal in "gold".
 
2014-03-02 02:42:14 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Yes, the TSA is quite capable of looking for Bitcoins as if they were real, physical "coins" and to be perplexed when they are unable to find them in your luggage.

Next, they will be trying to locate cloud storage on the actual cloud it is stored on, and be concerned a terrorist might fly a plane into the cloud and knock all the files off of it.


img.fark.net

I think all Farkers need to carry $1 million in plastic Bitcoins.  Maybe paint Mardi Gras doubloons gold.
 
2014-03-02 03:25:49 AM  
FTA: I turned back to the orange shirt and asked "What did the Bitcoin look like?" Bill chimed in and told the agent that what he was saying was impossible because Bitcoin is digital and doesn't have have any physical manifestation. You can't "see" Bitcoin. The orange shirt said they looked like medallions or tokens. I said I didn't understand what he was talking about, and he simply repeated, in a child like way, that Bitcoins are like metal tokens. I told him that I didn't have any tokens.

Yeah, there's definitely no such thing as a physical bitcoin that a layperson might be  aware of and mistakenly believe to represent the entire system...

bitcoinexaminer.org

Maybe if he'd known about them, he'd have been able to explain their error.

FTA: When they saw all the metal lapel pins in my bag they probably thought they hit the jackpot on a stockpile of Casascius coins. Whatever training they had it probably included that stock photo of brass tokens everyone uses. My evasiveness only quickened their blood lust, as they imagined a big bust, and possibly a promotion down the security track.

Oh, looks like he's perfectly aware of what they were referring to, and of the likely cause of their error.

Anyone else have a feeling that if he'd just explained their misunderstanding, he could have been merrily on his way?
 
2014-03-02 03:47:28 AM  
the ha ha guy:Fiat currency has always led to a collapse of that currency, even when the country was otherwise going strong.

Mmreally? Considering that every single currency in the world is fiat currency, and that they haven't all collapsed, I fear that you may be expressing wishful thinking rather than historical fact.
 
2014-03-02 04:11:46 AM  

433: Rik01: the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off

I took lsd in LA International before boarding a flight to Hawaii.  It was mostly pleasant, but there was an overarching theme of "I'm in a flying box over the ocean, and I can't see who is piloting the damned thing.  In retrospect, I should not have done that.  It was a relief to land, greeted with a garland of flowers.


You're the only one making sense. Harmless adventure is fun.
 
2014-03-02 04:19:28 AM  

CraicBaby: 433: Rik01: the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off

I took lsd in LA International before boarding a flight to Hawaii.  It was mostly pleasant, but there was an overarching theme of "I'm in a flying box over the ocean, and I can't see who is piloting the damned thing.  In retrospect, I should not have done that.  It was a relief to land, greeted with a garland of flowers.

I once smoked a bowl just before going to the Vegas airport to fly home. Either the TSA didn't notice I was high as fark, or they didn't care.


Always get as stoned as possible before airport. It helps so so much.
 
2014-03-02 06:54:47 AM  

djwebb1127: 433: Rik01: the simple fact of being crammed sardine like into a metal cylinder with no way out once it takes off

I took lsd in LA International before boarding a flight to Hawaii.  It was mostly pleasant, but there was an overarching theme of "I'm in a flying box over the ocean, and I can't see who is piloting the damned thing.  In retrospect, I should not have done that.  It was a relief to land, greeted with a garland of flowers.

You're the only one making sense. Harmless adventure is fun.


Indeed. I want my 20 minutes back.
 
2014-03-02 08:29:46 AM  
Oh look, another douchebag who thinks he's fighting for freedom by being an asshole and inconveniencing everyone behind him at the airport.
I bet he's the kind of asshole that refuses to show his receipt when he leaves a best buy too.

/ZOMG they're stealing my constitutional rights!
 
2014-03-02 08:49:34 AM  
Yeah - sorry - but that guy is just a dick who is trying to justify being a dick.
 
gja
2014-03-02 09:01:15 AM  

netringer: I think all Farkers need to carry $1 million in plastic Bitcoins.


Two words:
Ass pennies (or ass bitcoins as it might be)
"Hand them over? Yes sir!"

/would server the TSA right
 
pla
2014-03-02 09:06:05 AM  
Disclaimer:  I hate the TSA as much as the next guy.  I hate ICE as much as the next guy.  I  consider AML regulations nothing short of discriminatory.

And all that said - Until recently, you could buy physical Bitcoins from Casascius, in 1BTC, 5BTC, and 25BTC denominations (I believe he offered a 1oz gold 100BTC at one point as well).  I even owned a few of the first two.

Now, as I said, I have zero respect for AML regs or ICE - But I suspect most of us know perfectly well that you can't take $10k (USD equivalent, in any hard currency) in or out of the country without declaring it.  Simple as that.  And for the average Joe who might plead ignorance, a swag-marketing self-proclaimed Libertarian crypto-anarchist doesn't get that same benefit of the doubt - He could probably recite a nice summary of CFR31§1010 from memory.

Now let's see what 2+2 equals... Guy has a tube of 50 "medallions" stamped with something that looks vaguely like the Bitcoin B⃦.  Bitcoin trades at between 500 and 1000 USD per BTC.  Assuming the more common 1BTC coins, that puts that tube as potentially worth up to 50k USD.

These guys just did their jobs (spare me the Nazi references, please), and asked a very, very simple question that the author refused to answer: "I was out of ideas. At that point I was certain I didn't want to say another word"... How about the simple phrase "no, I will not travel internationally today"?  Hmm?  Did that approach ever occur to you, just tell them the truth that made their involvement unnecessary?   Instead, lets play "antagonize people who can make your life very, very miserable".

No sympathy for the author here, despite philosophically agreeing with him completely.
 
pla
2014-03-02 09:23:04 AM  
orbister : Mmreally? Considering that every single currency in the world is fiat currency, and that they haven't all collapsed, I fear that you may be expressing wishful thinking rather than historical fact.

Do you have any idea what you've just said?

The Great British Pound counts as the oldest surviving government-issued currency in the world, by a good margin, and only came into existence in 760CE - Though in its original form, it didn't have value by fiat, it had value because it literally contained a pound of silver.  Not until 1694 and the founding of the Bank of England did the "Pound" become a proper fiat currency - A mere 320 years ago, the blink of an eye in historical terms.

320 years... Not a fan of the Roman empire, eh?  Or Persian?  Or 99% of the world's major civilizations, for that matter?
 
2014-03-02 10:44:58 AM  
John Kennex found some on Almost Human. I laughed when they picked up the stick and said "Bitcoin. Untraceable."

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-02 10:50:10 AM  

pla: orbister : Mmreally? Considering that every single currency in the world is fiat currency, and that they haven't all collapsed, I fear that you may be expressing wishful thinking rather than historical fact.

Do you have any idea what you've just said?

The Great British Pound counts as the oldest surviving government-issued currency in the world, by a good margin, and only came into existence in 760CE - Though in its original form, it didn't have value by fiat, it had value because it literally contained a pound of silver.  Not until 1694 and the founding of the Bank of England did the "Pound" become a proper fiat currency - A mere 320 years ago, the blink of an eye in historical terms.

320 years... Not a fan of the Roman empire, eh?  Or Persian?  Or 99% of the world's major civilizations, for that matter?


So, what currencies aren't fiat?
 
pla
2014-03-02 12:25:21 PM  
noitsnot : So, what currencies aren't fiat?

Keep in mind that "fiat" doesn't mean "backed by nothing but a promise (or a sword)" - It means it has only whatever value some central authority says it has, no more and no less.  Similarly, "non-fiat" doesn't mean "backed by physical goods" - That refers to a commodity currency, a totally separate issue.

So as the obvious answer, Bitcoin - It gets its value through consent of the market participants, not through decree by the issuing "authority" (indeed, it has no issuing authority).

Bullion, for another (and indeed, all non-fractional commodity currencies) - Though that borders on barter, it uses a token currency of relatively stable value to get around the whole "but I don't need six hundred chickens or fifty yak pelts" problem.  Just about everyone (corporate America excluded) will accept silver.  Funny story, the second silver coin in my collection I got waaay back in the days of my youth, helping run a yardsale.  Someone offered me a silver eagle for an old TV, and I got to keep it as "payment" for helping out for the day.  Not even mimimum wage back then, but it made a 10YO kid happier than a hog in excrement.  :)

I could make a halfway decent argument for something like Canadian Tire money or WOW gold, where their trading value comes from the consent of the user base and has nothing to do with their intended use, but I think you get the picture here - Basically, all modern governments issue fiat money because they can.  You won't find Bolivia suddenly issuing pesos backed by the coca harvest, because then they can't just double the number of them with the stroke of a pen.  Similarly, the US will never go back on the gold standard, because then the Fed couldn't tax us through dilution of our savings.

Note that, while I would love to see a currency not subject to the whims of any central bank succeed, you shouldn't read me as one of the whackjobs who refuses to accept US Dollars as pay - US dollars very much count as a relatively stable token currency.  It does offend me deeply, though, that my savings earns 0.02% interest while inflation intentionally makes my liquid assets worth 3% per year.
 
2014-03-02 01:51:36 PM  
mbillips:
U.S. currency is backed by the full faith and trust of the United States government. So far, that's been good for 224 years. As not real things go, it's pretty farkin' real.

What does that mean, that the dollar is "backed"? Right now, I can exchange a five-dollar bill for five ones, or bring it around to the tavern and exchange it for a beer. Does the "backing" that we're talking about ensure that the fiver is always good for five ones? (Probably, for what that's worth.) Does it mean it will always buy a beer? (No, because of inflation.)

So we all acknowledge that the Government of the United States of America may, at some future time, say, "Your dollar is still worth a whole dollar. For five of them, you can probably get a square of slightly-used toilet paper."

Thanks for the backing there, Uncle Sam.

I'm not picking on the dollar. Money is a cultural construct. All the above is true of any exchange medium. Even gold. Even Bitcoin. Gold has some great properties (doesn't corrode, good conductor, malleable, ductile, dense), but there's nothing intrinsically valuable about it. A thing has value if some other person will exchange another valuable thing for it; nothing has value intrinsically.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go buy that beer, while I still can.
 
2014-03-02 03:54:44 PM  

pla: noitsnot : So, what currencies aren't fiat?

Keep in mind that "fiat" doesn't mean "backed by nothing but a promise (or a sword)" - It means it has only whatever value some central authority says it has, no more and no less.  Similarly, "non-fiat" doesn't mean "backed by physical goods" - That refers to a commodity currency, a totally separate issue.

So as the obvious answer, Bitcoin - It gets its value through consent of the market participants, not through decree by the issuing "authority" (indeed, it has no issuing authority).

Bullion, for another (and indeed, all non-fractional commodity currencies) - Though that borders on barter, it uses a token currency of relatively stable value to get around the whole "but I don't need six hundred chickens or fifty yak pelts" problem.  Just about everyone (corporate America excluded) will accept silver.  Funny story, the second silver coin in my collection I got waaay back in the days of my youth, helping run a yardsale.  Someone offered me a silver eagle for an old TV, and I got to keep it as "payment" for helping out for the day.  Not even mimimum wage back then, but it made a 10YO kid happier than a hog in excrement.  :)

I could make a halfway decent argument for something like Canadian Tire money or WOW gold, where their trading value comes from the consent of the user base and has nothing to do with their intended use, but I think you get the picture here - Basically, all modern governments issue fiat money because they can.  You won't find Bolivia suddenly issuing pesos backed by the coca harvest, because then they can't just double the number of them with the stroke of a pen.  Similarly, the US will never go back on the gold standard, because then the Fed couldn't tax us through dilution of our savings.

Note that, while I would love to see a currency not subject to the whims of any central bank succeed, you shouldn't read me as one of the whackjobs who refuses to accept US Dollars as pay - US dollars very much co ...


So, you're nutty then.  Just checking.
 
gja
2014-03-02 09:06:18 PM  

noitsnot: So, what currencies aren't fiat?


Currencies currently experiencing 'inflation'?
 
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