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2014-03-01 01:10:41 PM

hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

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You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.


No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .
 
2014-03-01 01:14:43 PM

RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .


What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?
 
2014-03-01 01:16:27 PM

Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?


Don't know .
 
2014-03-01 01:18:48 PM

RottenEggs: Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?

Don't know .


Sure you don't, princess.
 
2014-03-01 01:19:30 PM

RottenEggs: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Yeah he should have stayed inside and waited for some unknown assailant (who had already tried to force his way in )to start shooting through  the windows .

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Hey look. A troll, or an idiot with a "IM THE DECIDER MENTALITY!"

The gun is to defend yourself WHEN he breaks in. It is not to engage in a hollywood gunfight with someone in the dark of night outside your house.

Until then, you stay down, stay quiet, and wait for the cops to get there. You only use the gun when confronted. You don't go out like Ahnold.

Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

Spolier Alert: Sometimes it turns out to not be a threatening criminal. (See TFA)

So no 72 year old 6' 2"  300 pounder  vs. a 32 year old 5'2"  120 pound guy ? I'm only guessing and I suspect you are too as TFA doesn't mention it . How do you know he wasn't a criminal just because he had Alzhiemers  ? He  (seriously ) could have already had these kinds of behaviors . TFA does not mention it one way or another .


If only there was some  sort of barrier between them for the helpless resident's safety.
 
2014-03-01 01:23:36 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: I'm a gun nut, and fark this guy. He went outside because he obviously hoped he'd be able to shoot someone.

I always have access to my gun in my house, and if someone keeps ringing the doorbell I'm gonna assume it's someone crazy, drunk, or senile and call the cops so they can come get them. I'm not gonna go outside. It's for if someone actually tries or succeeds to break in.

If the guy wanted to see who it was he could have called to the guy from inside the doorway to see what was going on. Then if the guy attempt to approach shut the interior door. If the guy attempts to break the door down or something only THEN is there reason to consider using a firearm.


THIS

A few years ago a drunk idiot rings our doorbell at 5 am. When we didn't respond right away they start punching and kicking the door and yelling threats. Then they realized they had the wrong townhouse, go to the next door over (less than 6 ft away) and start punching and kicking their door yelling "I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU ALL!"

I call 911 and the lady on the other end dispatches them and tells me to stay on the line. Then she tried to get me to open the door, stick my head outside and get a description of him to help the officers out in case he bails before they get there. I'm in the process of telling her "no thank you" when someone, who I'm guessing was her supervisor, basically took over the call and told me to stay put.

The idiot ended up trying to run and was making decent progress when he decided to turn and yell at the house some more and was tackled by 3 or 4 cops at once.
 
2014-03-01 01:28:51 PM

walktoanarcade: Mentat: Have we really become such terrified, pants-shiatting morons that we can't identify an elderly, demented person as NOT A THREAT?

No, I would have opened the door (after seeing an elderly man shivering from cold with a dog he was walking no less) and let him in if he was in dire need (as he was).

I'm against letting old people freeze to death and I'm unafraid of most people.

If he didn't "get it" after explaining he's in the wrong place, it may be time to  ask him to check his wallet for the address.  Calling the police would happen if he got punchy or kicky.


99% of the time, your plan would result in the rape of your family and pets, and your death by something horrible (begging for it by the end).  If that's how you want to go out, trying to help an "old man with dementia who was walking his dog and was lost outside for hours", go ahead.  I'll be the one that lives because I shoot everyone that approaches.
 
2014-03-01 01:31:47 PM

Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?

Don't know .

Sure you don't, princess.


Sorry I didn't realize we were talking about old people behind the wheel of a car . You would have to be an idiot not to fear that ,sunshine
 
2014-03-01 01:32:39 PM
Can we lock the crazy people up for their own safety yet?
 
2014-03-01 01:38:57 PM

AgentKGB: A few years ago a drunk idiot rings our doorbell at 5 am. When we didn't respond right away they start punching and kicking the door and yelling threats. Then they realized they had the wrong townhouse, go to the next door over (less than 6 ft away) and start punching and kicking their door yelling "I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU ALL!"


we had a drunk kid try and break in, thinking it was his house once. dog barked and scared him off, we called the cops and the troopers found him wandering around, blind drunk half a mile down the road. they figured out which house he was supposed to go to and left him with some friends with a warning to keep the guy inside if he couldn't hold his liquor. Shockingly, we didn't need to shoot him even once. i never knew until i read this story how close a brush i had with death!
 
2014-03-01 01:39:06 PM

Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?


and by elderly people you mean all people. must suck to live in his life. enemies everywhere!!
 
2014-03-01 01:42:25 PM
I assume the DA isn't pressing charges because he knows the laws in place will give the defense attorney plenty of ammo? I RTFA but don't see where it says why "Buzz" isn't trying for manslaughter at least. Maybe "Buzz" was "high" when read the report.

I'm going to be an evil piece of sh*t an hope this 34 year old pu**y gets killed by a drunk driver, or shot in a drive-by. Defend gun rights all you want, but this guy makes chickensh*t look like caviar.
 
2014-03-01 01:44:55 PM
 
2014-03-01 01:45:49 PM

clancifer: Olo Manolo: Even the people that were close to the old man understood the situation for what it was -- a misunderstanding. Get over it..

Oh, that's it. Another SYG victory, eh?


Have you ever met someone or dealt with someone who has Alzheimer's? They are not all just nice forgetful elderly folks. They can be very crazy as they become pissed off people who think they are the ones being wronged and frustrated because they know something is wrong but not sure what. They become violent and will kick your ass. This same person may not have been like that before.
 
2014-03-01 01:52:19 PM

Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?


Have you seen them drive!!!???!!!
 
2014-03-01 01:55:37 PM

JudgeSmails: Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?

and by elderly people you mean all people. must suck to live in his life. enemies everywhere!!


Most people are smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie .  Don't kick me and you won't get bitten.
 
2014-03-01 01:57:34 PM

tlchwi02: AgentKGB: A few years ago a drunk idiot rings our doorbell at 5 am. When we didn't respond right away they start punching and kicking the door and yelling threats. Then they realized they had the wrong townhouse, go to the next door over (less than 6 ft away) and start punching and kicking their door yelling "I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU ALL!"

we had a drunk kid try and break in, thinking it was his house once. dog barked and scared him off, we called the cops and the troopers found him wandering around, blind drunk half a mile down the road. they figured out which house he was supposed to go to and left him with some friends with a warning to keep the guy inside if he couldn't hold his liquor. Shockingly, we didn't need to shoot him even once. i never knew until i read this story how close a brush i had with death!


Hehe...

Clearly when he took off you should have got into your car, drove at him, hit him with the car door and backed over him a few times before shooting!

Hell I used to work with a woman who had to call the cops at 2 am because a drunk guy was tearing up her flower garden. He mistook her house for his house and was looking for the rock his spare house key was under. I hate to think how many "drunk idiot thinks they're home" calls the police get every night.
 
2014-03-01 01:58:51 PM

RottenEggs: JudgeSmails: Bane of Broone: RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .

What's it like to live in fear of elderly people?

and by elderly people you mean all people. must suck to live in his life. enemies everywhere!!

Most people are smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie .  Don't kick me and you won't get bitten.


look out y'all, we got us a badass over here
 
2014-03-01 01:58:55 PM

RottenEggs: hardinparamedic: RottenEggs: Sorry I just have a hard time bowing down to criminals and doing what they want . .

[i132.photobucket.com image 750x600]

You may be trolling, but it gives me an excuse to post hilarious pics.

No not trolling but I'm sure must folks would seriously be unimpressed by the fire power I have in my house .( a 12 guage shot gun single shot .and 45 cal derringer . But yes the pic is great .


Ah, so you're a RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER, just like this man was. RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS, everyone!
 
2014-03-01 01:59:51 PM
When guns are banned, that guy will beat the shiat out of the guy who is at the wrong house.  Neighbors will report screams and possibly the sounds of broken bones if they're close enough.

The courts will respond that he will not be charged since it was his property.  And the public will wonder why he wasn't allowed to shoot.
 
2014-03-01 02:08:22 PM

AgentKGB: Hell I used to work with a woman who had to call the cops at 2 am because a drunk guy was tearing up her flower garden. He mistook her house for his house and was looking for the rock his spare house key was under. I hate to think how many "drunk idiot thinks they're home" calls the police get every night.


having been on the other end of the 'going into the wrong house due to confusion' these sorts of laws make me nervous. CSB time: a friend had invited myself and 2 other friends to his apartment for a party. He told us it was the white house on a specific street, that it was between the 2 stone churches and to just go in the front door and up the stairs, his apartment was at the top. turned out there were THREE stone church's on that road (he assumed we'd be coming the other direction) so we just walked right into a private citizens home and start going up their stairs when a confused man confronted us. we appologised profusely and left, but with the way these laws and attitudes are changing, how many embaressing but innocent situations like that are going to end up as shootings?
 
2014-03-01 02:08:37 PM

KimNorth: clancifer: Olo Manolo: Even the people that were close to the old man understood the situation for what it was -- a misunderstanding. Get over it..

Oh, that's it. Another SYG victory, eh?

Have you ever met someone or dealt with someone who has Alzheimer's? They are not all just nice forgetful elderly folks. They can be very crazy as they become pissed off people who think they are the ones being wronged and frustrated because they know something is wrong but not sure what. They become violent and will kick your ass. This same person may not have been like that before.


Do they have super-strength and the ability to bust through doors like the hulk?

No?

Then why the fark go outside to confront them with a gun?
 
2014-03-01 02:10:25 PM

walktoanarcade: Let's face it, some gun owners can't wait to kill one of their fellow human beings.

And are cowards.


I've had a hunting license since I was 14, and I was a member of the NRA for over 20 years....I got better.....so I've seen it up close.  You are correct, a very large percentage of gun owners are just looking for an excuse, no different than Florida Zimmy.
 
2014-03-01 02:18:44 PM
The cops would have shown up and shot the old man anyhow. The kid just saved the government a lot of paperwork.
 
2014-03-01 02:33:26 PM

Fissile: walktoanarcade: Let's face it, some gun owners can't wait to kill one of their fellow human beings.

And are cowards.

I've had a hunting license since I was 14, and I was a member of the NRA for over 20 years....I got better.....so I've seen it up close.  You are correct, a very large percentage of gun owners are just looking for an excuse, no different than Florida Zimmy.


Well..I decided to be careful and say "some", although I wonder how large the percentage of bloodthirsty gun owners has grown.   We all can agree that any percentage of this kind of gun violence is completely unacceptable.

I generally don't care if someone has guns....unless they're constantly talking about guns, then it bothers me sometimes.

I DO care if someone wants to walk around armed these days more than I used to, which was not at all.
 
2014-03-01 02:33:53 PM

edmo: ARGO

A 34-year old felt threatened by a 72-year old Alzheimers dude? Real tough guy there.


I call it the "I'm so very scared" defense.

"You shot that guy in cold blood!"
"I was terrified."
"He's a senile 97-year-old man with diabetes and Alzheimer's!"
"He scared me to death."
"He was completely unarmed!"
"Yep. Terrified. Frightened out of my wits."
"All he did was ring the doorbell!"
"So very scared. Felt so threatened. Much fear."
"He didn't even come into the house!"
"Did you miss the part where I was absolutely terrified?"
"Did you even try to call the cops??"
"Scared. Oh so scared. You just can't imagine how scared."
"So what you're saying is you're a complete and utter pussy who shoots first and asks questions later."
"Now you're getting it!"

If you turn "I was so very scared" into a legal defense, you get shiat like this. If the choice is between admitting that you're a complete coward entirely incapable of assessing the threat level of a given situation (and therefore should probably not be trusted with anything more lethal than a Crayola crayon) or going to jail for three and a half for man-two, you'll happily admit to being a coward - and be allowed to keep your weapons afterwards.

"I was scared" shouldn't be a legal defense because it doesn't have anything to do with the victim. It has to do with the shooter's perception of the victim. That's something the victim has no control over. If my neighbor is a shoot-first paranoid, I can't fix that. Besides, we scare too easily in this country.
 
2014-03-01 02:41:50 PM
Good those walkers where taring the hell out of my trucks grill.
 
2014-03-01 02:45:48 PM

peasandcarrots: edmo: ARGO

A 34-year old felt threatened by a 72-year old Alzheimers dude? Real tough guy there.

I call it the "I'm so very scared" defense.

"You shot that guy in cold blood!"
"I was terrified."
"He's a senile 97-year-old man with diabetes and Alzheimer's!"
"He scared me to death."
"He was completely unarmed!"
"Yep. Terrified. Frightened out of my wits."
"All he did was ring the doorbell!"
"So very scared. Felt so threatened. Much fear."
"He didn't even come into the house!"
"Did you miss the part where I was absolutely terrified?"
"Did you even try to call the cops??"
"Scared. Oh so scared. You just can't imagine how scared."
"So what you're saying is you're a complete and utter pussy who shoots first and asks questions later."
"Now you're getting it!"

If you turn "I was so very scared" into a legal defense, you get shiat like this. If the choice is between admitting that you're a complete coward entirely incapable of assessing the threat level of a given situation (and therefore should probably not be trusted with anything more lethal than a Crayola crayon) or going to jail for three and a half for man-two, you'll happily admit to being a coward - and be allowed to keep your weapons afterwards.

"I was scared" shouldn't be a legal defense because it doesn't have anything to do with the victim. It has to do with the shooter's perception of the victim. That's something the victim has no control over. If my neighbor is a shoot-first paranoid, I can't fix that. Besides, we scare too easily in this country.


You missed the comments section .
FTA

"Speaking as a family friend of 1 of Mr. Westbrook's son's:

Averi, Mr. Westbrook was not african-american.

Elena, This happened in the middle of the night. No one knew at the house what his condition was or he wouldn't have been shot. He tried to get in the house. And the girlfriends ex had already tried to break in some time before this. So they were on "alert". When he went out to confront him Mr. Westbrook was totally in the dark and Mr. Hendrix tried to talk to him and tell him to stop coming at him, but Mr. Westbrook, of course, could not speak."
 
2014-03-01 02:49:47 PM

Felgraf: KimNorth: clancifer: Olo Manolo: Even the people that were close to the old man understood the situation for what it was -- a misunderstanding. Get over it..

Oh, that's it. Another SYG victory, eh?

Have you ever met someone or dealt with someone who has Alzheimer's? They are not all just nice forgetful elderly folks. They can be very crazy as they become pissed off people who think they are the ones being wronged and frustrated because they know something is wrong but not sure what. They become violent and will kick your ass. This same person may not have been like that before.

Do they have super-strength and the ability to bust through doors like the hulk?

No?

Then why the fark go outside to confront them with a gun?


I wouldn't go outside at all! The guys girlfriend was on the phone with 911 so there was no reason for it anyway. So sad for the guy who shot as I believe him, all he seen was a guy in the dark coming at him after being told several times to stop. The poor old guy had no clue what was going on. We need a better system for our elderly.
 
2014-03-01 02:57:00 PM

tlchwi02: AgentKGB: Hell I used to work with a woman who had to call the cops at 2 am because a drunk guy was tearing up her flower garden. He mistook her house for his house and was looking for the rock his spare house key was under. I hate to think how many "drunk idiot thinks they're home" calls the police get every night.

having been on the other end of the 'going into the wrong house due to confusion' these sorts of laws make me nervous. CSB time: a friend had invited myself and 2 other friends to his apartment for a party. He told us it was the white house on a specific street, that it was between the 2 stone churches and to just go in the front door and up the stairs, his apartment was at the top. turned out there were THREE stone church's on that road (he assumed we'd be coming the other direction) so we just walked right into a private citizens home and start going up their stairs when a confused man confronted us. we appologised profusely and left, but with the way these laws and attitudes are changing, how many embaressing but innocent situations like that are going to end up as shootings?


Oh I understand completely. I used to live in an apartment building that was basically split in half. There was an A side and a B side and both sides had the same decor, apartment numbers etc. That in and of itself wouldn't have been a problem but some genius decided that the same building key should work in the A or B side. *sigh* I came home from the bar and was too busy checking out the cute cab driver instead of the fact that she took me to the B side of the building (I lived in the A section). So I stagger up the 3 flights of stairs, went to open my door and found it unlocked. "Huh" I thought "I must have forgotten to lock the damn thing." Walked into the living room and there was a woman about my age watching tv. After some apologizing I headed out the door pronto.
 
2014-03-01 02:58:06 PM

peasandcarrots: edmo: ARGO

A 34-year old felt threatened by a 72-year old Alzheimers dude? Real tough guy there.

I call it the "I'm so very scared" defense.

"You shot that guy in cold blood!"
"I was terrified."
"He's a senile 97-year-old man with diabetes and Alzheimer's!"
"He scared me to death."
"He was completely unarmed!"
"Yep. Terrified. Frightened out of my wits."
"All he did was ring the doorbell!"
"So very scared. Felt so threatened. Much fear."
"He didn't even come into the house!"
"Did you miss the part where I was absolutely terrified?"
"Did you even try to call the cops??"
"Scared. Oh so scared. You just can't imagine how scared."
"So what you're saying is you're a complete and utter pussy who shoots first and asks questions later."
"Now you're getting it!"

If you turn "I was so very scared" into a legal defense, you get shiat like this. If the choice is between admitting that you're a complete coward entirely incapable of assessing the threat level of a given situation (and therefore should probably not be trusted with anything more lethal than a Crayola crayon) or going to jail for three and a half for man-two, you'll happily admit to being a coward - and be allowed to keep your weapons afterwards.

"I was scared" shouldn't be a legal defense because it doesn't have anything to do with the victim. It has to do with the shooter's perception of the victim. That's something the victim has no control over. If my neighbor is a shoot-first paranoid, I can't fix that. Besides, we scare too easily in this country.


I was scared is not a legal defense....You have to have something to back it up. You're right that it is a sketchy defense but otherwise like in California they want to make it to where you can't shoot even if the perp is in your home. You would basically have to wait until they are in the act of violence against you/of raping you then you could shoot.
 
2014-03-01 02:59:14 PM
If you're a 34 year old who is scared of a 72 year old, chances are you're a pussy.
 
2014-03-01 03:28:00 PM
My dad is 74. Granted, he's not the gorilla he once was but he could still snap the necks of a significant number of 34 year old men like they were kindling.
It's probably a good idea not to go out to confront an intruder, but an even better idea not to let your addlepated dad and his dog wander about in the middle of the night.
 
2014-03-01 03:44:47 PM
The guy was wandering around ringing doorbells at 4am, which is perfectly fine reason to shoot someone. I hope the dog is okay, and that Mr. Wandering Senile's family learns to put down the baby gates next time to keep track of their dangerous and wayward family members.
 
2014-03-01 03:45:24 PM

wellreadneck: My dad is 74. Granted, he's not the gorilla he once was but he could still snap the necks of a significant number of 34 year old men like they were kindling.
It's probably a good idea not to go out to confront an intruder, but an even better idea not to let your addlepated dad and his dog wander about in the middle of the night.


There's a few people around here blaming the family too.
 
2014-03-01 04:03:36 PM

born_yesterday: walktoanarcade: Mentat: Have we really become such terrified, pants-shiatting morons that we can't identify an elderly, demented person as NOT A THREAT?

No, I would have opened the door (after seeing an elderly man shivering from cold with a dog he was walking no less) and let him in if he was in dire need (as he was).

I'm against letting old people freeze to death and I'm unafraid of most people.

If he didn't "get it" after explaining he's in the wrong place, it may be time to  ask him to check his wallet for the address.  Calling the police would happen if he got punchy or kicky.

99% of the time, your plan would result in the rape of your family and pets, and your death by something horrible (begging for it by the end).  If that's how you want to go out, trying to help an "old man with dementia who was walking his dog and was lost outside for hours", go ahead.  I'll be the one that lives because I shoot everyone that approaches.


Yeah, I'm calling bullshiat on that statistic. It's 97-98 percent, tops.
 
2014-03-01 04:09:49 PM

AgentKGB: Hehe...

Clearly when he took off you should have got into your car, drove at him, hit him with the car door and backed over him a few times before shooting!

Hell I used to work with a woman who had to call the cops at 2 am because a drunk guy was tearing up her flower garden. He mistook her house for his house and was looking for the rock his spare house key was under. I hate to think how many "drunk idiot thinks they're home" calls the police get every night.


CSB
Had a friend in college who's apartment was broken into by a drunk frat boy in the middle of the night.  The drunk got the wrong apartment, found his keys wouldn't work, ended up kicking in the door.  Then proceded to beat my friend with a lamp screaming "get out of my apartment."

He ended up shooting the drunk with a pistol.
 
2014-03-01 04:14:43 PM
Best comment on the story, from another article - Second Amendment Man Finds Miracle Cure For Alzheimers.


// if legitimate fear for ones safety is all that is required for an affirmative SYG defense, any open carry citizen or CCW  who displays can be shot on sight, right?  I mean if "I thought he might have a gun!" works, surely "he had a gun!" does.
 
2014-03-01 04:46:48 PM

TheOther: What happened to the dog?


The police were there, what do you think?
 
2014-03-01 06:28:43 PM
We know you love to kill innocent people for no reason. As long as you Americans are only killing each other the world doesn't care. We all just want to to stop killing people in their own sovereign countries.
 
2014-03-01 07:57:51 PM
Things in this thread that don't surprise me:

The number of people that see no reason for "stand your ground" type laws, because nobody has ever been a victim of violence and needed to defend themselves. (And had that been the case, the police would have been just around the corner with teddy bears to defuse the situation.)

The number of idiots that think everybody who owns a firearm is a bloodthirsty loon, with no life outside of hunting down innocent people.

Things in this thread that do surprise me:

The number of Farkers that apparently have an amazing ability to make snap calls about people's intentions and mental status when they were just scared awake at 4am, based on a shadow that attempted to make entry into their residence then approached when told to stop. (You should all be making a lot more money than you do. Law enforcement agencies and psychological facilities would pay lots of money for that magical ability)

Yeah, the guy is a pussy and he made a poor decision that cost somebody their life. But everybody that is trying to frame this situation as "He clearly saw that it was an innocent old Alzheimer's patient kindly begging for a blanket, and shot him just for the fun of it because gun owners are like that" is misrepresenting what happened to make it fit their own narrative about "those crazy farking gun-nuts".
 
2014-03-01 08:11:48 PM
Wow, Ojo. Does the mall rewards kiosk know you're using their computer to post walls of text on FARK? Shouldn't you be patrolling JC Pennies?
 
2014-03-01 08:28:03 PM

hardinparamedic: Wow, Ojo. Does the mall rewards kiosk know you're using their computer to post walls of text on FARK? Shouldn't you be patrolling JC Pennies?


Nope, I already shot up all the old people and foreigners in JC Pennies. All's clear. Moving on to The Candy Shoppe now to take care of some children that looked at me funny.
 
2014-03-01 09:22:37 PM
Olo Manolo:

Yeah, the guy is a pussy and he made a poor decision that cost somebody their life. But everybody that is trying to frame this situation as "He clearly saw that it was an innocent old Alzheimer's patient kindly begging for a blanket, and shot him just for the fun of it because gun owners are like that" is misrepresenting what happened to make it fit their own narrative about "those crazy farking gun-nuts".

That's what I was doing? Well, thanks for telling me!  And here all this time I thought the fact that the guy who went outside and confronted the elderly dementia sufferer was obviously unafraid enough to leave the farking safety of his home to escalate the situation rather negated any argument that he had no choice but to kill another human being.

Man, what's with me? Glad you caught me, I was planning a G.I. Joe Cobra-esque gun grab on you.

:|
 
2014-03-01 09:55:49 PM

walktoanarcade: Olo Manolo:

Yeah, the guy is a pussy and he made a poor decision that cost somebody their life. But everybody that is trying to frame this situation as "He clearly saw that it was an innocent old Alzheimer's patient kindly begging for a blanket, and shot him just for the fun of it because gun owners are like that" is misrepresenting what happened to make it fit their own narrative about "those crazy farking gun-nuts".

That's what I was doing? Well, thanks for telling me!  And here all this time I thought the fact that the guy who went outside and confronted the elderly dementia sufferer was obviously unafraid enough to leave the farking safety of his home to escalate the situation rather negated any argument that he had no choice but to kill another human being.

Man, what's with me? Glad you caught me, I was planning a G.I. Joe Cobra-esque gun grab on you.

:|



Because people that are in fear for the safety of their family (based on prior events at the same residence, and the fact that somebody was attempting to make entry) are only capable of making rational decisions or cowering in the corner.. There is no chance he acted irrationally out of fear, he clearly just wanted some old guy's blood on his hands.

sounds reasonable
 
2014-03-01 10:00:52 PM

Olo Manolo: walktoanarcade: Olo Manolo:

Yeah, the guy is a pussy and he made a poor decision that cost somebody their life. But everybody that is trying to frame this situation as "He clearly saw that it was an innocent old Alzheimer's patient kindly begging for a blanket, and shot him just for the fun of it because gun owners are like that" is misrepresenting what happened to make it fit their own narrative about "those crazy farking gun-nuts".

That's what I was doing? Well, thanks for telling me!  And here all this time I thought the fact that the guy who went outside and confronted the elderly dementia sufferer was obviously unafraid enough to leave the farking safety of his home to escalate the situation rather negated any argument that he had no choice but to kill another human being.

Man, what's with me? Glad you caught me, I was planning a G.I. Joe Cobra-esque gun grab on you.

:|


Because people that are in fear for the safety of their family (based on prior events at the same residence, and the fact that somebody was attempting to make entry) are only capable of making rational decisions or cowering in the corner.. There is no chance he acted irrationally out of fear, he clearly just wanted some old guy's blood on his hands.

sounds reasonable


Glad you're coming around to reason. Acting irrationally out of farking fear grants you zero rights to commit manslaughter.
 
2014-03-01 10:23:39 PM

Olo Manolo: The number of Farkers that apparently have an amazing ability to make snap calls about people's intentions and mental status when they were just scared awake at 4am, based on a shadow that attempted to make entry into their residence then approached when told to stop. (You should all be making a lot more money than you do. Law enforcement agencies and psychological facilities would pay lots of money for that magical ability)


There sure are a lot of farkers who are literally scared of shadows.  You know how you deal with shadows?  YOU TURN ON THE FARKING PORCH LIGHT!
 
2014-03-01 11:24:45 PM

walktoanarcade: Olo Manolo: walktoanarcade: Olo Manolo:

Yeah, the guy is a pussy and he made a poor decision that cost somebody their life. But everybody that is trying to frame this situation as "He clearly saw that it was an innocent old Alzheimer's patient kindly begging for a blanket, and shot him just for the fun of it because gun owners are like that" is misrepresenting what happened to make it fit their own narrative about "those crazy farking gun-nuts".

That's what I was doing? Well, thanks for telling me!  And here all this time I thought the fact that the guy who went outside and confronted the elderly dementia sufferer was obviously unafraid enough to leave the farking safety of his home to escalate the situation rather negated any argument that he had no choice but to kill another human being.

Man, what's with me? Glad you caught me, I was planning a G.I. Joe Cobra-esque gun grab on you.

:|


Because people that are in fear for the safety of their family (based on prior events at the same residence, and the fact that somebody was attempting to make entry) are only capable of making rational decisions or cowering in the corner.. There is no chance he acted irrationally out of fear, he clearly just wanted some old guy's blood on his hands.

sounds reasonable

Glad you're coming around to reason. Acting irrationally out of farking fear grants you zero rights to commit manslaughter.


So are we just ignoring the part in the first statement of mine that says "is a pussy and made a poor decision"?

reading is hard.
 
2014-03-01 11:34:59 PM

Olo Manolo: So are we just ignoring the part in the first statement of mine that says "is a pussy and made a poor decision"?

reading is hard.


No, no, I read it. It doesn't excuse the man from doing a stupid and illegal thing that for some reason(probably local, deep dark and political) the D.A. isn't charging his can't-wait-until-someone-tries-to-get-in-here-tonight-so-I-can-blow-th em-away paranoid ass with manslaughter at least and possibly second or first degree murder.

Really, being a stupid pussy is not a defense if one needlessly ends another homo sapien's life.

Easy thread is easy.
 
2014-03-01 11:52:08 PM
walktoanarcade:

Easy thread is easy.

apparently not
 
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