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2014-03-01 09:48:51 AM  
Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.
 
2014-03-01 10:10:19 AM  

StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.


Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.
 
2014-03-01 10:19:47 AM  

thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.


You're right, I meant Jack Torrance
 
2014-03-01 10:35:59 AM  

StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance


Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.
 
2014-03-01 10:36:43 AM  
Who says something is wrong with Rust ? Maybe he's the only sane man in that show.
 
2014-03-01 10:40:13 AM  
Rusty???
 
2014-03-01 11:35:43 AM  
Is this a Tv show?  I have never seen it.
 
2014-03-01 11:39:13 AM  

One Bad Apple: Who says something is wrong with Rust ? Maybe he's the only sane man in that show.


Yeah, i thought that was kind of the point.
 
2014-03-01 11:40:13 AM  
There's nothing wrong with him whatsoever.  But he smokes too much.
 
2014-03-01 11:41:16 AM  

DamnYankees: Rusty???


www.rowsdowr.com
 
2014-03-01 11:41:46 AM  

One Bad Apple: Who says something is wrong with Rust ? Maybe he's the only sane man in that show.


^ This.
 
2014-03-01 11:43:31 AM  

BalugaJoe: Is this a Tv show?  I have never seen it.


HBO.  Here's the trailer.

And another.
 
2014-03-01 11:47:34 AM  

DamnYankees: Rusty???



i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-01 11:47:56 AM  
The Yellow King a drug? No, it's a book (or play, to be precise).

It's strange no one seems to have mentioned that Cohle's philosophy is the same as Buddhism, except he's missing the end part where enlightenment releases you from the wheel of reincarnation and suffering.
 
2014-03-01 11:58:00 AM  
Am I the only one who has tried to read "The King in Yellow"?  Marginal reading at best.  I can understand why it was never on my college curriculum reading list and I have never heard of it until this show.
 
2014-03-01 12:03:58 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: Am I the only one who has tried to read "The King in Yellow"?  Marginal reading at best.  I can understand why it was never on my college curriculum reading list and I have never heard of it until this show.


I had only heard of the Lovecraft reference.  Personally, I think any literary implication is a red herring.
 
2014-03-01 12:10:14 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: Am I the only one who has tried to read "The King in Yellow"?  Marginal reading at best.  I can understand why it was never on my college curriculum reading list and I have never heard of it until this show.


I'm just enjoying the ride, trying not to over-analyze, hoping they'll stick the landing.
 
2014-03-01 12:13:07 PM  

thamike: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance

Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.


No, I meant Jack.
 
2014-03-01 12:19:56 PM  

StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance

Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.

No, I meant Jack.


Maybe book Jack, but i'd hardly call movie Jack an empath.  He's been there the whole time.
 
2014-03-01 12:29:19 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: DamnYankees: Rusty???


I immediately was thinking of Venture
 
2014-03-01 12:31:11 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: Am I the only one who has tried to read "The King in Yellow"?  Marginal reading at best.  I can understand why it was never on my college curriculum reading list and I have never heard of it until this show.


I've read it, and though the elements of horror that weave through the first few stories hint at something deeper, the rest of the book comprises wholly unrelated stories. So it's pretty unsatisfying as a collection. Those early stories reminded me of (the much better) "The Great God Pan" by Arthur Machen and "The Willows" by Algernon Blackwood.
 
2014-03-01 12:33:04 PM  

StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance

Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.

No, I meant Jack.


Look, you are both obviously convinced that you're right and the other is wrong, and you're just not ever going to agree on this. Just admit you've met an empath.
 
2014-03-01 12:35:57 PM  
Buddhists. Farking nihilists.
 
2014-03-01 12:37:00 PM  
img.fark.net

Don't call him Rusty.
 
2014-03-01 12:46:30 PM  
Tweak from South Park is the Yellow King
 
2014-03-01 12:49:54 PM  

Splish: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance

Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.

No, I meant Jack.

Look, you are both obviously convinced that you're right and the other is wrong, and you're just not ever going to agree on this. Just admit you've met an empath.


you're all the Michael Jordan's of being son of a biatches, well one of you may be the Clyde drexler and another the joe Dumas, but all pretty high level son of biatches.

/I'm the Craig ehlo of being a son of a biatch
 
2014-03-01 01:04:22 PM  
"The King In Yellow" is an average book, but the whole thing with the play is brilliant and the excerpts are really neat. Worth reading once, but after that you're better off buying a massive Lovecraft omnibus and settling in for the winter.

While I'm not expecting much in the way of a supernatural Lovecrafty ending, I'm going to be rather cheesed off if they don't explain the use of "Yellow King" and "Carcosa". A one-off reference could be just drugged-up hallucinations, but to keep referring to them makes me think there must be more to it. Even if whoever's in charge read Chambers' book and it had the same effect on him that the original play does, I'd be okay with that.
 
2014-03-01 01:19:45 PM  

Splish: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: thamike: StrikitRich: Well, that beats the Hell out of my theory of Rust being an unrealized empath like Joe Turkel in The Shining where he picks up on other peoples' feelings and can't quite process them.

Joe Turkel was a ghost bartender in the Shining.

You're right, I meant Jack Torrance

Jack Torrance was a violent dry-drunk with writer's block.  You mean Danny Torrance.

No, I meant Jack.

Look, you are both obviously convinced that you're right and the other is wrong, and you're just not ever going to agree on this. Just admit you've met an empath.


"Stuck at an empath."  You almost had it, but it was a valiant attempt.
 
2014-03-01 01:31:27 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: There's nothing wrong with him whatsoever.  But he smokes too much.


I quit a little over 3 years ago. Watching him smoke stirs up bad desires. The sign of brilliant acting.
 
2014-03-01 01:48:06 PM  

iron_city_ap: Marcus Aurelius: There's nothing wrong with him whatsoever.  But he smokes too much.

I quit a little over 3 years ago. Watching him smoke stirs up bad desires. The sign of brilliant acting.


I quit in 1998, and he gets me too sometimes.
 
2014-03-01 01:57:57 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: Am I the only one who has tried to read "The King in Yellow"?  Marginal reading at best.  I can understand why it was never on my college curriculum reading list and I have never heard of it until this show.


I downloaded the free pdf from archive.org. Started reading last night, will finish today.

It's not break-through work by any means, there is a reason the guy is basically unheard of while Lovecraft was and remains nearly a household name.

I think the reading is very interesting. The concepts and imagination behind the plots are respectable; even if the quality of the writing itself is sub-par.

When you consider how rare occult horror fiction was in 1895, I can cut the guy some slack. Even if he did it a bit sloppy, he did cut the trail for occult horror.

I found the very first story the most interesting so far. With the 'Lethal Chamber' and the Purchaser of Reputations. Though the most interesting thing about that first story is the fact he's writing about the 1920's (three decades before them) with some very good predictions about the state of world politics and events... all within an easily dismissed introduction.
 
2014-03-01 02:02:38 PM  
If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.
 
2014-03-01 02:19:33 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: iron_city_ap: Marcus Aurelius: There's nothing wrong with him whatsoever.  But he smokes too much.

I quit a little over 3 years ago. Watching him smoke stirs up bad desires. The sign of brilliant acting.

I quit in 1998, and he gets me too sometimes.


Glad it's not just me. I can get hammered, be around smokers, coffee, all the big triggers, but that dude makes smoking an art.

I know if I even had 2 hits, I'd regret it plus physically feel like a turd for days. Best decision of my life.
 
2014-03-01 02:37:18 PM  
Maybe he just has a bad cold.
 
2014-03-01 02:39:13 PM  

Fart_Machine: [img.fark.net image 200x231]

Don't call him Rusty.


And don't call it "True Detectives."
 
2014-03-01 02:40:30 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: There's nothing wrong with him whatsoever.  But he smokes too much.


He smokes weird.  He smokes like he's taking a hit off of a one-hitter.
 
2014-03-01 02:40:31 PM  

t3knomanser: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.


That scene really stays with you, doesn't it?
 
2014-03-01 02:48:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: t3knomanser: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.

That scene really stays with you, doesn't it?


The six minute single-take prisoner extraction scene is the one that sticks with me.  That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on television.
 
2014-03-01 03:01:24 PM  

thamike: Marcus Aurelius: t3knomanser: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.

That scene really stays with you, doesn't it?

The six minute single-take prisoner extraction scene is the one that sticks with me.  That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on television.


I was immediately reminded of "Children of Men" but for a made for cable show that rocked.
 
2014-03-01 03:03:44 PM  

One Bad Apple: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: t3knomanser: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.

That scene really stays with you, doesn't it?

The six minute single-take prisoner extraction scene is the one that sticks with me.  That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen on television.

I was immediately reminded of "Children of Men" but for a made for cable show that rocked.


THANK you.  You know how hard it is to find anybody else who loved that film?
 
2014-03-01 03:12:22 PM  

thamike:

THANK you.  You know how hard it is to find anybody else who loved that film?


I know a lot of people that liked that movie. I think everyone just tells you they didn't because they think you're a dick.
 
2014-03-01 03:14:51 PM  

One Bad Apple: thamike:

THANK you.  You know how hard it is to find anybody else who loved that film?

I know a lot of people that liked that movie. I think everyone just tells you they didn't because they think you're a dick.


Well, that's one way to be.
 
2014-03-01 03:53:07 PM  

One Bad Apple: thamike:

THANK you.  You know how hard it is to find anybody else who loved that film?

I know a lot of people that liked that movie. I think everyone just tells you they didn't because they think you're a dick.


www.dumpaday.com
 
2014-03-01 03:54:00 PM  
There was an interview on EW with Nic Pizzolatto earlier this week wherein, he explains exactly what the King in Yellow is in regard to True Detective.

I won't spoil anything here but the info is out there if you want to google it up.
 
2014-03-01 04:12:32 PM  

Lord of the Highway: There was an interview on EW with Nic Pizzolatto earlier this week wherein, he explains exactly what the King in Yellow is in regard to True Detective.

I won't spoil anything here but the info is out there if you want to google it up.


here it is - SPOILERS ahead

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/27/true-detective-nic-pizzolatto-seas on -1/
 
2014-03-01 04:14:37 PM  

t3knomanser: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.


That's my advice to Smitty who calls Rust "Rusty" and the admin/mod who won't correct it.

/farking Rust or Rustin
//never Rusty
 
2014-03-01 04:45:15 PM  

elvisaintdead: Lord of the Highway: There was an interview on EW with Nic Pizzolatto earlier this week wherein, he explains exactly what the King in Yellow is in regard to True Detective.

I won't spoil anything here but the info is out there if you want to google it up.

here it is - SPOILERS ahead

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/27/true-detective-nic-pizzolatto-seas on -1/


I think I will save that and read it after episode 7 as they talk about stuff that happens in that episode.
 
2014-03-01 05:44:57 PM  

thamike: Fart_Machine: [img.fark.net image 200x231]

Don't call him Rusty.

And don't call it "True Detectives."


THANK YOU!
 
2014-03-01 05:54:33 PM  

Lokasenna: "The King In Yellow" is an average book, but the whole thing with the play is brilliant and the excerpts are really neat. Worth reading once, but after that you're better off buying a massive Lovecraft omnibus and settling in for the winter.

While I'm not expecting much in the way of a supernatural Lovecrafty ending, I'm going to be rather cheesed off if they don't explain the use of "Yellow King" and "Carcosa". A one-off reference could be just drugged-up hallucinations, but to keep referring to them makes me think there must be more to it. Even if whoever's in charge read Chambers' book and it had the same effect on him that the original play does, I'd be okay with that.


Chaosium, the makers of the Call of Cthulhu RPG, have a compilation book of stories inspired by The King in Yellow (plus the original stories by Chambers). It's a good read. http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=84
 
2014-03-01 06:33:12 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I found the very first story the most interesting so far. With the 'Lethal Chamber' and the Purchaser of Reputations. Though the most interesting thing about that first story is the fact he's writing about the 1920's (three decades before them) with some very good predictions about the state of world politics and events... all within an easily dismissed introduction.


I agree.  It was a little spooky talking about the German war with America and some other odds and ends.  I thought I was going to be in for a real treat, but the book sorta lagged after that.
 
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