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2014-03-01 08:29:09 AM  
And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.
 
2014-03-01 08:34:54 AM  

thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.


The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.
 
2014-03-01 08:59:51 AM  
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2014-03-01 09:04:14 AM  
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2014-03-01 09:21:40 AM  
Does anybody else think that ranking high school athletic teams nationally is dumb?
 
2014-03-01 09:25:20 AM  
That website is f*cking horrible

Subby should vacate his greenlights
 
2014-03-01 09:40:57 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.


And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.
 
2014-03-01 09:51:10 AM  

steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.


Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.
 
2014-03-01 10:02:31 AM  

ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.


Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.
 
2014-03-01 10:07:40 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.


So everyone magically starts as intelligible? Like, do they need academically baptized?
 
2014-03-01 10:12:05 AM  
The problem, Chicago Public Schools say, is that individual study papers for each student, which would have allowed them to play, were not filed by administrators at Curie.

Sound like players get credit for "studying" on their own, as long as they file paperwork. If true, that's pretty funny in itself.
 
2014-03-01 10:14:24 AM  

thecpt: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

So everyone magically starts as intelligible? Like, do they need academically baptized?


-From what I gathered by reading the article, it would seem that either grades or individual improvement programs need to be on file with the league before the start of the season.
 
2014-03-01 10:22:27 AM  
Why are high school basketball programs ranked anyway?  Shouldn't school be about education?
 
2014-03-01 10:25:17 AM  

steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.


So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?
 
2014-03-01 10:34:44 AM  

edronny: Does anybody else think that ranking high school athletic teams nationally is dumb?


Yes.
 
2014-03-01 10:53:36 AM  

ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?


That's what I guessed while reading the article. Hell, it might even be the ethical thing to do for the kids if it gets them free or even half rides
 
2014-03-01 12:34:28 PM  
It says the paperwork was for "independent study." That surely means "grades given for no actual academic work."
 
2014-03-01 01:08:38 PM  

ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?


I wish I still had that innocence.
 
2014-03-01 01:17:07 PM  

Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.


I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.
 
2014-03-01 01:25:43 PM  
Here is a better article.

The explanation from the article.

A Chicago Public Schools investigation revealed that seven players had been ineligible since the beginning of the season. CPS said that the players would have been eligible if the proper forms were filed with the CPS office.

"Students whose GPAs fall below 2.0 are ineligible except when they have signed and certified ISP [Independent Study Program] forms," CPS representative Joel Hood said. "In this particular case, they did not have the ISPs on file. We believe that this is a case of the adults letting the students down."


Like I said before, somebody dropped the ball on filling paper work and it wasn't an attempt to hide there grades.
 
2014-03-01 01:31:41 PM  
The top 2 recruits in the nation are from Chicago. Every year Chicago produces elite talent, yet UofI and DePaul continue to suck (NU gets a pass for obvious reasons). If I was a fan of either of these schools I would be outraged that they can't recruit in their own backyard.

/what was the point if the article again?
 
2014-03-01 02:48:09 PM  

ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?


If it meant a senior could pull up his grades to get into a good school rather than having to get into a juco where not everything is covered and his family can't afford it then hoping no one notices sounds better.

It all depends on the circumstances and the coaches are well aware of those issues just as a kid blowing his chance to get out of a bad situation. We had a few kids like that in high school and coaches held their paperwork while the kid brought up his grades, then they turned in the improved grades.

Kids rarely take things seriously and athletics are becoming a hindrance to learning.
 
2014-03-01 02:51:15 PM  

ongbok: Here is a better article.

The explanation from the article.

A Chicago Public Schools investigation revealed that seven players had been ineligible since the beginning of the season. CPS said that the players would have been eligible if the proper forms were filed with the CPS office.

"Students whose GPAs fall below 2.0 are ineligible except when they have signed and certified ISP [Independent Study Program] forms," CPS representative Joel Hood said. "In this particular case, they did not have the ISPs on file. We believe that this is a case of the adults letting the students down."

Like I said before, somebody dropped the ball on filling paper work and it wasn't an attempt to hide there grades.


Yes their grades were too low and were signed up for this program and I'm guessing they just never showed because they wanted to be kids.

There is probably no paperwork to be filed at all.
 
2014-03-01 02:54:09 PM  

ongbok: Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.

I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.


You really have no clue how athletics has farked up every academic institution do you?

Most schools put on the field success above academic success and its getting sad while also cooling my interest in school sports.
 
2014-03-01 03:09:25 PM  

steamingpile: ongbok: Here is a better article.

The explanation from the article.

A Chicago Public Schools investigation revealed that seven players had been ineligible since the beginning of the season. CPS said that the players would have been eligible if the proper forms were filed with the CPS office.

"Students whose GPAs fall below 2.0 are ineligible except when they have signed and certified ISP [Independent Study Program] forms," CPS representative Joel Hood said. "In this particular case, they did not have the ISPs on file. We believe that this is a case of the adults letting the students down."

Like I said before, somebody dropped the ball on filling paper work and it wasn't an attempt to hide there grades.

Yes their grades were too low and were signed up for this program and I'm guessing they just never showed because they wanted to be kids.

There is probably no paperwork to be filed at all.


So now that it has been said that it was known they were under 2.0, and they would have been eligible anyway if the paper was turned in, now you are claiming that the whole CPS, the people who stripped them of their title, were in on it and this is all a big lie? Just can't admit that you were wrong.

And apparently they got their grades up because they are eligible for the state tournament now because they all have a 2.0 or better now before the tournament stats.
 
2014-03-01 03:10:24 PM  
If all else is on the up and up and it was only a paperwork fark up then i feel sorry for the kids.

If not then they got what was coming to them.
 
2014-03-01 03:12:35 PM  
And he's a Kansas recruit? Shocker.

And let me guess...his Dad and/or AAU coach magically got hired to be a KU assistant coach?
 
2014-03-01 03:13:40 PM  

steamingpile: ongbok: Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.

I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.

You really have no clue how athletics has farked up every academic institution do you?

Most schools put on the field success above academic success and its getting sad while also cooling my interest in school sports.


So it is so farked up that you think they would have intentionally withheld required paperwork thinking it would just be overlooked? And then you are going to argue that fact after they were stripped of the tittle because that paper work wasn't turned in?
 
2014-03-01 03:16:19 PM  

Coach_J: And he's a Kansas recruit? Shocker.

And let me guess...his Dad and/or AAU coach magically got hired to be a KU assistant coach?


How do you know who was ineligible? They only said 7 players, they didn't name the players.
 
2014-03-01 03:16:22 PM  

thecpt: So everyone magically starts as intelligible?


Well, not Bob Dylan...
 
2014-03-01 08:03:08 PM  

ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.

I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.

You really have no clue how athletics has farked up every academic institution do you?

Most schools put on the field success above academic success and its getting sad while also cooling my interest in school sports.

So it is so farked up that you think they would have intentionally withheld required paperwork thinking it would just be overlooked? And then you are going to argue that fact after they were stripped of the tittle because that paper work wasn't turned in?


No you're trying to argue something and just trying to pick a fight, their grades were and remained low, they were only eligible to play because there is some stupid rule about allowing them to to play as long as they take a study class. That is moronic, if they aren't passing they shouldn't be able to play but such is the state of school athletics today.
 
2014-03-01 09:47:50 PM  

steamingpile: ongbok: Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.

I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.

You really have no clue how athletics has farked up every academic institution do you?

Most schools put on the field success above academic success and its getting sad while also cooling my interest in school sports.


Nope... I coach baseball at a high school. The best baseball prospect for the school in about 7 years walked through the door didn't make it to the season because of grades.

/first day of practice is Monday
//8" of snow Sunday.
 
2014-03-02 12:34:50 AM  

steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: Bane of Broone: ongbok: steamingpile: ongbok: steamingpile: State_College_Arsonist: thecpt: And having, you know, players who weren't academically eligible. But that's not what high school is about.

The article states that the players were declared academically ineligible because the proper paperwork was not filed, not because the players had grades below the minimum standard.

And the reason for that is......?

Most likely their grades were too low.

Or it could be that the person who normally does it was out for what ever reason and it was passed on to another person and wasn't communicated to that person properly. Things like this tend to happen.

Not for top flight programs it doesn't since its a huge source of income for those schools/districts.

Even back in my day we had cards to fill out and if they didnt get one the coaches would come around and pull us out of classes. I can only imagine its gotten more paperwork by now, so yeah MAYBE someone farked up but most likely there was a reason paperwork was held back.

So what makes more sense, filling the paperwork slipped through the cracks somehow, or because some player's grades were too low they decided not to turn in the paper work and hope that nobody noticed?

I wish I still had that innocence.

I wish I had the ignorance to believe that a school would intentionally not turn in required paper work needed for their players to be eligible and hope that nobody notices.

You really have no clue how athletics has farked up every academic institution do you?

Most schools put on the field success above academic success and its getting sad while also cooling my interest in school sports.

So it is so farked up that you think they would have intentionally withheld required paperwork thinking it would just be overlooked? And then you are going to argue that fact after they were stripped of the tittle because that paper work wasn't turned in?

No you're trying to argue something and just trying to pick a fight, their grades were and remained low, they were only eligible to play because there is some stupid rule about allowing them to to play as long as they take a study class. That is moronic, if they aren't passing they shouldn't be able to play but such is the state of school athletics today.


Uh, no. You were the one trying to argue something that wasn't the case by saying they intentionally withheld the paper work to hide bad grades, when the bad grades didn't matter as long as the study plan paper work was filed. And the only reason why I can see you are trying to still argue that and move the goal post is because you were wrong about your assertion of a big conspiracy to hide bad grades, and don't want to admit you were wrong.

And by the way, yes their grades were low, but they were given the chance to bring them up, which apparently they did, because if they didn't they wouldn't be eligible for the state tournament which requires you to have a 2.0 by time the tournament to start to be eligible.
 
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