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(ESPN)   It's Miller time in St. Louis   (espn.go.com) divider line 51
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2014-02-28 09:42:25 PM  
I don't see the "Miller Time" call going over very well there.  Good luck to Ryan and Steve Ott.  Well all be Blues fans in WNY once the playoffs come.
 
2014-02-28 09:43:07 PM  
We'll

FTFM
 
2014-02-28 10:24:18 PM  
It's InBev time.
 
2014-02-28 10:32:27 PM  
I gotta say this is the best move the Blues could've made to prepare for a cup run. Dumping Stewart and Halak for Miller and Ott is a smart move, and paying draft picks and a prospect is the price of doing business.

Next question: how long do Halak and Stewart stay in Buffalo? I say at least one of them is gone by Wednesday.
 
2014-02-28 10:35:33 PM  

eikni: It's InBev time.


lol
 
2014-02-28 10:35:35 PM  
Anybody see Miller's presser tonight?  Don't think I've ever seen a pro athlete who was truly sad to leave a city/community.  Good luck to a good guy.
 
2014-02-28 10:35:52 PM  
Holy Crapolli! I know the Sabres suck-a-duck (well, except when they play the Bruins) but I did not see this trade coming...
 
2014-02-28 10:41:51 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Holy Crapolli! I know the Sabres suck-a-duck (well, except when they play the Bruins) but I did not see this trade coming...


Did you miss the whole front office shake-up?  Darcy's gone so we actually got something for our assets.  Shocking!!!
 
2014-02-28 10:46:15 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Primitive Screwhead: Holy Crapolli! I know the Sabres suck-a-duck (well, except when they play the Bruins) but I did not see this trade coming...

Did you miss the whole front office shake-up?  Darcy's gone so we actually got something for our assets.  Shocking!!!


The only downside is they have to keep guys like Leino around to stay at the cap floor.
 
2014-02-28 10:53:30 PM  
InBev doesn't own Miller, what am I missing?

Buffalo versus St. Louis...that's pretty much a wash in regards to shiatty-ass cities to live in.
 
2014-02-28 10:56:39 PM  
Buffalo's gonna break a record for picks hoarded by the time the deadline rolls around.
 
2014-02-28 10:59:54 PM  

swahnhennessy: Buffalo's gonna break a record for picks hoarded by the time the deadline rolls around.


If Murray goes all Maple Leafs circa 1989 I'll hurt myself laughing.
 
2014-02-28 11:02:19 PM  
So Murray gets a serviceable goalie, a plug-in forward, a prospect, a first-round pick in a stacked draft, and a third round pick for two expiring contracts, only one of whom had expressed interest in signing back up after the season.

The Blues get a goalie that is Quick's equal (if not better, this year) and the kind of veteran leadership that can turn a series or three, in a run for this year.

Good trade on both sides.

Looking forward to what Murray does with the TEN first- and second-round picks he's got in the next two years...

/and hoping Ott considers returning to Buffalo after this year is up...
 
2014-02-28 11:03:06 PM  

a4dzac: InBev doesn't own Miller, what am I missing?

Buffalo versus St. Louis...that's pretty much a wash in regards to shiatty-ass cities to live in.


Let me guess: you've never been to either.

Anyway, watching all the Buffalo players get emotional about Ryan leaving made me smile. Everyone who plays in Buffalo falls in love with it.
 
2014-02-28 11:04:49 PM  
Oh and my favorite part about the deal is that the Sabres had to dress their Director of Hockey Technology as their backup goalie - a guy named Ryan Vinz who didn't make his team in college.
 
2014-02-28 11:26:23 PM  
Holy Jumpin'!!!
 
2014-02-28 11:33:14 PM  
It amazes me that of all of the old players that nearly won the cup in '06, Drew farking Stafford is the last one to go.

/Well, and Hank, but he left and came back so that doesn't really count
 
2014-02-28 11:36:32 PM  

colonel0sanders: It amazes me that of all of the old players that nearly won the cup in '06, Drew farking Stafford is the last one to go.

/Well, and Hank, but he left and came back so that doesn't really count


Huh...upon further review, Stafford wasn't on that team, his rookie year was the year after.  Points stands, though, since he's now the longest-tenured Sabre.  Ugh
 
2014-02-28 11:41:18 PM  

colonel0sanders: It amazes me that of all of the old players that nearly won the cup in '06, Drew farking Stafford is the last one to go.

/Well, and Hank, but he left and came back so that doesn't really count


You don't get to say "nearly won the Cup" when the team loses in the conference finals.
 
2014-02-28 11:50:32 PM  

Flappyhead: colonel0sanders: It amazes me that of all of the old players that nearly won the cup in '06, Drew farking Stafford is the last one to go.

/Well, and Hank, but he left and came back so that doesn't really count

You don't get to say "nearly won the Cup" when the team loses in the conference finals.


Yeah, that's fair.  I think they would've won it that year if they had a healthier defense, but they didn't.
 
2014-03-01 12:09:49 AM  

logicalman: Anybody see Miller's presser tonight?  Don't think I've ever seen a pro athlete who was truly sad to leave a city/community.  Good luck to a good guy.


St. Louis is a great sports town. After the Vancouver olypmics the whole city loved miller. I just hope he loves the city as much as it loved him.

/needless to say LETS GO BLUES!!!
 
2014-03-01 12:24:30 AM  
Well, they're both used to soul-crushing defeats sealed by iconic goals.

a4dzac: InBev doesn't own Miller, what am I missing?

InBev owns St. Louis.
 
2014-03-01 12:24:51 AM  
Sigh.  Well, it's about time, and they got good value back (who will most likely be traded again).  I hope Miller and Ott win one there.
 
2014-03-01 12:26:02 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: Primitive Screwhead: Holy Crapolli! I know the Sabres suck-a-duck (well, except when they play the Bruins) but I did not see this trade coming...

Did you miss the whole front office shake-up?   Darcy's gone so we actually got something for our assets.  Shocking!!!


THANK farkING GOD HE'S GONE.
 
2014-03-01 12:33:59 AM  

RminusQ: InBev owns St. Louis.


No they don't. They own Anheuser-Busch but have nothing to do with the Blues.
 
2014-03-01 12:41:35 AM  

Big Man: RminusQ: InBev owns St. Louis.

No they don't. They own Anheuser-Busch but have nothing to do with the Blues.


I didn't mean the team, I meant the city.
 
2014-03-01 12:48:43 AM  
Happy trails to the lopsided faced god of a goalie and his new friends in SL.
Get that cup you bastards!
And Otter really needs to hurt someones feelings very soon.
 
2014-03-01 12:55:34 AM  

basstouCan: logicalman: Anybody see Miller's presser tonight?  Don't think I've ever seen a pro athlete who was truly sad to leave a city/community.  Good luck to a good guy.

St. Louis is a great sports town. After the Vancouver olypmics the whole city loved miller. I just hope he loves the city as much as it loved him.

/needless to say LETS GO BLUES!!!


Well we're going to get Tim Horton's in a few years so we're trying our best to make himself feel at home.

/Looks like the Blues really mean business
 
2014-03-01 12:59:20 AM  

RminusQ: I didn't mean the team, I meant the city.


That's no longer true either. It used to be a company that invested in and cared about the community. Now they're just another business that's only worried about their bottom line and everyone knows it. I hope "It's Miller Time" sticks.
 
2014-03-01 01:17:14 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: I don't see the "Miller Time" call going over very well there.


The Blues primary owner also owns the Miller/Coors distributorship for the St. Louis suburbs.
 
2014-03-01 01:30:37 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Oh and my favorite part about the deal is that the Sabres had to dress their Director of Hockey Technology as their backup goalie - a guy named Ryan Vinz who didn't make his team in college.


Even better is that the Blues for a backup had to dress Jeff Tyni tonight for their game against Anaheim.

/he's the DUCKS equipment manager
 
2014-03-01 01:30:39 AM  
RminusQ:  InBev owns St. Louis.

Not any more: not even close to it. A lot of people got pissed off when InBev bought A-B and let tons of people go. Plus there's no connection to the Cardinals except for the stadium naming rights. This town in popping with more and more microbreweries and the ones that are in place are expanding at astonishing rates.

Yes, even drinking Miller and Coors is no longer a crime around here: just bad taste.
 
2014-03-01 02:36:48 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Anyway, watching all the Buffalo players get emotional about Ryan leaving made me smile. Everyone who plays in Buffalo falls in love with it.


Seeing Thurman Thomas wish them well on Twitter I thought was cool.

Buffalo wasn't a place I loved living in always, but after going back there I realized I still love her.  She's like a woman who might occasionally stab you, but otherwise she's just perfect.
 
2014-03-01 03:41:56 AM  
That's nice, they still won't beat Chicago or Anaheim in a playoff series
 
2014-03-01 08:06:38 AM  

swahnhennessy: Buffalo's gonna break a record for picks hoarded by the time the deadline rolls around.


The Sabres currently have 10 picks (4 firsts and 6 seconds) in the first two rounds over the next two drafts.  That could increase to 11 if the conditional 3rd from the Blues is upgraded to a 2014 1st-rounder (if either the Blues reach the conference final or if Miller re-signs in St. Louis before the Draft - either of which has a good chance of happening).

2015 is a very deep draft year too, even beyond McDavid.

Plus the Sabres still have Moulson who can be moved for a 1st and maybe a prospect too by Wednesday, and Halak and Stewart can likely be flipped for even more (I've heard Minny and Ottawa, respectively).  I've heard speculation on Ehrhoff, but I wouldn't move him - because of his contract situation, because he's been pretty decent, and because the Sabres need to retain some veteran presence during the rebuild.

Anyway, the Sabres are going to be absolutely loaded with quality prospects, that doesn't even count their wealth of first-round picks over the last couple years.  Armia, Grigorenko, Zadorov, and Ristolainen are all sure-fire future NHLers waiting in the wings but not on the current roster.  Zadorov and Ristolainen I am especially excited about - in a few years, a Buffalo blueline with those two, fellow top prospect Jake McCabe, and a more veteran Tyler Myers is going to be formidable.

Despite all the losing, this is going to be fun to watch develop over the next few years.  A complete top-to-bottom rebuild.  And as the the rebuild picks up speed and the young players start to improve, some of these pieces can be traded back for experienced veterans as needed.
 
2014-03-01 08:52:33 AM  
Another factor in this is that Steve Ott has expressed many times about how much he likes the city of Buffalo and the Sabres organization and that he would be interested in sticking around for the rebuild.  And he would really fit the bill as a veteran to captain the rebuilding roster.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Sabres try to re-sign him to a long-term deal after July 1st.  And if the Sabres are able to bring him back this summer, the trade goes down as a slam-dunk win for Buffalo.  It would work out to Miller for Stewart, Carrier, a 1st, and a cond. 3rd (potentially another 1st).
 
2014-03-01 10:01:39 AM  

Mrtraveler01: basstouCan: logicalman: Anybody see Miller's presser tonight?  Don't think I've ever seen a pro athlete who was truly sad to leave a city/community.  Good luck to a good guy.

St. Louis is a great sports town. After the Vancouver olypmics the whole city loved miller. I just hope he loves the city as much as it loved him.

/needless to say LETS GO BLUES!!!

Well we're going to get Tim Horton's in a few years so we're trying our best to make himself feel at home.

/Looks like the Blues really mean business


Ooh, new lifeplan: move to STL and open a TH's. Anyone who bashes St. Louis needs to spend a weekend downtown.

As a person who split her early life between WNY and MO, this trade pleases me mightily. I know Miller is sad to leave Buffalo, but STL is quite the hockey city. I spent last weekend at a youth tourney and hung out with the MO people. They're passionate about the Blues, and Miller is going to fit in well with the team and city.

The Sabres will be formidable in a few years and if Miller gels like I think he will, the Blues have a fighting chance this year. I'll miss Halak: I hope he does well in Buffalo or wherever he ends up.
 
2014-03-01 01:07:36 PM  

logicalman: Anybody see Miller's presser tonight?  Don't think I've ever seen a pro athlete who was truly sad to leave a city/community.  Good luck to a good guy.


Chelios cried

/ you missed it
 
2014-03-01 01:10:41 PM  

JHONAS ENROTH IS NOT AN NHL-CALIBER GOALTENDER 


nobody in buffalo seems to give a shiat about this.  everyone is in this pink cloud of draft picks and hopes and promises of a magnificent 2018 season.  granted, he has had probably the best mentor possible in miller, and there is a very noticeable difference in the discipline of his mechanics, but he does not have any skills that rank above mediocre-to-average.

teams dont even have to watch film on him - shoot glove side, score, repeat.

he is a back up at best, and not even a good one.
 
2014-03-01 01:29:57 PM  

craigzy: JHONAS ENROTH IS NOT AN NHL-CALIBER GOALTENDER 

nobody in buffalo seems to give a shiat about this.  everyone is in this pink cloud of draft picks and hopes and promises of a magnificent 2018 season.  granted, he has had probably the best mentor possible in miller, and there is a very noticeable difference in the discipline of his mechanics, but he does not have any skills that rank above mediocre-to-average.

teams dont even have to watch film on him - shoot glove side, score, repeat.

he is a back up at best, and not even a good one.


Well, Enroth did lead Team Sweden to a gold medal in the 2013 World Championship, so there's that.

But regardless, who cares?  Enroth isn't the goalie of the future anyway.  The Sabres are bad enough now to lose even with Miller in net, they're not going to lose that much more with Enroth as the starter.  The Sabres were going to be a bad team next year no matter what, they were going to be in the McDavid sweepstakes, and they can do that equally well with Enroth in net.

Enroth is only under contract through the end of next season anyway, then he is UFA.

Hopefully one of the Sabres' stable of goaltending prospects (Makarov, Lieuwen, Hackett, Knapp, Ullmark, or Petersen) will take some steps forward in the next couple years and show signs of being an NHL goalie.  Always impossible to project goaltending prospects, but the Sabres have a good number of them, so odds are decent that at least one of those six will develop.
 
2014-03-01 01:33:56 PM  

mjohnson71: RminusQ:  InBev owns St. Louis.

Not any more: not even close to it. A lot of people got pissed off when InBev bought A-B and let tons of people go. Plus there's no connection to the Cardinals except for the stadium naming rights. This town in popping with more and more microbreweries and the ones that are in place are expanding at astonishing rates.

Yes, even drinking Miller and Coors is no longer a crime around here: just bad taste.


BTW St. Louis Farkers: Urban Chestnut soft opened part of their new brewery in the Grove yesterday. I guess the beer hall part is open with more areas to come in the next month or two.
 
Al!
2014-03-01 01:59:11 PM  

craigzy: JHONAS ENROTH IS NOT AN NHL-CALIBER GOALTENDER 

nobody in buffalo seems to give a shiat about this.  everyone is in this pink cloud of draft picks and hopes and promises of a magnificent 2018 season.  granted, he has had probably the best mentor possible in miller, and there is a very noticeable difference in the discipline of his mechanics, but he does not have any skills that rank above mediocre-to-average.

teams dont even have to watch film on him - shoot glove side, score, repeat.

he is a back up at best, and not even a good one.


You don't even know what you're talking about.  Nobody seems to give a shiat about it, because "it" isn't even a thing.  Enroth is young, but he's a fine backup.  Even going from your stats, he's ranked 33rd in the NHL in GAA and SV%.  That makes him better than almost every backup in the league, and maybe 1 or 2 starters.
 
2014-03-01 06:33:46 PM  
And now Pat Lafontaine has resigned as president of the Sabres. What the hell is going on up there?
 
2014-03-01 06:56:01 PM  

Al!: You don't even know what you're talking about.  Nobody seems to give a shiat about it, because "it" isn't even a thing.  Enroth is young, but he's a fine backup.  Even going from your stats, he's ranked 33rd in the NHL in GAA and SV%.  That makes him better than almost every backup in the league, and maybe 1 or 2 starters.


Doc Daneeka: Well, Enroth did lead Team Sweden to a gold medal in the 2013 World Championship, so there's that.

But regardless, who cares?  Enroth isn't the goalie of the future anyway.  The Sabres are bad enough now to lose even with Miller in net, they're not going to lose that much more with Enroth as the starter.  The Sabres were going to be a bad team next year no matter what, they were going to be in the McDavid sweepstakes, and they can do that equally well with Enroth in net.

Enroth is only under contract through the end of next season anyway, then he is UFA.

Hopefully one of the Sabres' stable of goaltending prospects (Makarov, Lieuwen, Hackett, Knapp, Ullmark, or Petersen) will take some steps forward in the next couple years and show signs of being an NHL goalie.  Always impossible to project goaltending prospects, but the Sabres have a good number of them, so odds are decent that at least one of those six will develop.


i concede goals against and save percentage points, as well as him leading sweden.

if halak stays, it will be interesting to see what happens.  it is obvious he deserves to be the starter.  my jhonas rant stems from the fact i have a problem with the club "Coltsing" this season, and likely the next; however, ill probably conveniently forget all that once we have an entire rochester club with top prospects.

the lead story on channel 2 tonight was a story of "infighting" within sabres management; specifically, patty, but they didnt speculate any further.  doc, do you know what this is about?
 
2014-03-01 07:02:27 PM  

desertgeek: And now Pat Lafontaine has resigned as president of the Sabres. What the hell is going on up there?


what the shiat!?
 
2014-03-01 07:53:26 PM  

craigzy: desertgeek: And now Pat Lafontaine has resigned as president of the Sabres. What the hell is going on up there?

what the shiat!?


Word is that there was a power struggle that come to a head with the Miller trade.  LaFontaine wanted to try to re-sign Miller to an extension, and he believed that he had final say on personal decisions.  He discovered that wasn't the case.

Anyway, while it sucks to be giving the appearance of dysfunction, and while I am saddened as a personal fan of LaFontaine, I'm not sure this is a bad thing for the future of the team.  LaFontaine was brought in mainly to find a new GM for the Sabres, which he accomplished.  Going forward, there's no reason that the team needs two people trying to do the job of GM, and differences of opinion about personnel moves were bound to lead to conflict sooner or later.  Probably better that it happened sooner.

Now at least there won't be any doubt or confusion.  This is Tim Murray's show, and he's running it.
 
2014-03-01 08:07:12 PM  
This was a fun bit: Both the Blues and Sabres had to dig deep for their (league-required) backups Friday night. Sabres used their equipment manager who failed to walk on to his college team. Blues had to use the locker room attendant. The Ducks' locker room attendant.
 
2014-03-01 09:50:56 PM  

a4dzac: InBev doesn't own Miller, what am I missing?

Buffalo versus St. Louis...that's pretty much a wash in regards to shiatty-ass cities to live in.


Says the guy that has never lived in St. Louis.
 
2014-03-01 10:22:28 PM  

JSam21: a4dzac: InBev doesn't own Miller, what am I missing?

Buffalo versus St. Louis...that's pretty much a wash in regards to shiatty-ass cities to live in.

Says the guy that has never lived in St. Louis.


Or Buffalo, for that matter.
 
2014-03-01 11:45:04 PM  

RminusQ: This was a fun bit: Both the Blues and Sabres had to dig deep for their (league-required) backups Friday night. Sabres used their equipment manager who failed to walk on to his college team. Blues had to use the locker room attendant. The Ducks' locker room attendant.


The fark? What if he had to go in to that game, a big game at that considering each team's playoff position?
 
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