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(The Smoking Gun)   Geeky musician who lured underage fans to send him porn pictures predicted in an online chat with one of his victims his exact sentence, which was handed down today: "that's like 5 years in federal prison and sex offender registration"   (thesmokinggun.com) divider line 116
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m00
2014-02-28 05:55:03 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: If the youngest was 16, this sentence seems kind of harsh. Didn't rob Lowe go so far as to nail a 16 yo? How much time did he do?


Led Zeppelin had group sex with underage girls, whom they transported across state lines. Elvis had a group of 12, 13, 14 year old girls that hung around him. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. I think there used to be a sense that if underage girls became groupies, or went to backstage parties... they were fair game. Like, at some point.. teenage girls have agency.

After seeing this dude's picture, I kinda get the sense he wasn't manipulating 16 year old girls into sending him selfies. I think they were perfectly willing participants. Their body, their right to choose... right?
 
2014-02-28 06:04:54 PM  
I'm still at work and I can't see the article or the pictures. Can someone tell me who it was or post a picture of this fine, young cannibal?
 
2014-02-28 06:26:09 PM  

jamspoon: James10952001: Pictures, is why. Even if 16 is the age of consent where he lives, pictures are still illegal.

Before 2003 The Sun could and did publish pictures of 16 and 17 years olds topless. How did we get from banning the commercial publishing of these pictures to turning the private exchange of pictures into a 5 year sentence?


The major difference is that he chatted with the girls and asked for the pictures. That's solicitation of a minor. That's bad. He used his Internet fame to get his rocks off with girls that were far too young to be asked such favors. He could have been going for 18-year-olds, but let us not kid ourselves: He wrote music that was designed to appeal to younger teens for a reason.

How else do you explain "Dear Molly"?

When you're 25 years old, you don't ask teenage girls to send you naked pics. You just DON'T. It's not cool. Everyone knows this.

The other difference between this and the nudie pics in the Sun is that these weren't just nude poses; These were sexually explicit shots of the girls in question. That makes it pornography, not just nude imagery. The sun might have shown us a 16-year-old Samantha Fox's boobs, but they never had her spread her legs or touch herself; Not in the photos, anyway.
 
2014-02-28 06:28:49 PM  

m00: Pumpernickel bread: If the youngest was 16, this sentence seems kind of harsh. Didn't rob Lowe go so far as to nail a 16 yo? How much time did he do?

Led Zeppelin had group sex with underage girls, whom they transported across state lines. Elvis had a group of 12, 13, 14 year old girls that hung around him. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. I think there used to be a sense that if underage girls became groupies, or went to backstage parties... they were fair game. Like, at some point.. teenage girls have agency.

After seeing this dude's picture, I kinda get the sense he wasn't manipulating 16 year old girls into sending him selfies. I think they were perfectly willing participants. Their body, their right to choose... right?


He's no Elvis or Led Zeppelin, though. He's just "internet famous" and he didn't have handlers to keep everything discrete. He also left a digital trail, and kept sexually explicit shots of the girls.

Of course he was manipulating them, and just because Elvis lacked the moral fiber or ethics to say no to a teenage girl doesn't mean it was right.

I have turned down girls. Yes, it was painful to have to do so, but if the choice is getting with a girl with a fabulous body and ending up in prison, or living the rest of my life knowing I missed out on the fabulous body but did the right thing, I'll take the latter.
 
2014-02-28 06:31:05 PM  

jamspoon: This does seem a rather pointless prosecution.

If a 16 year old with whom it is is legal to have a sexual relationship engages with someone online they are less at risk than in the real world. As long as the pictures stay private it is safe behaviour. It allows for the person to develop their sexuality, with in this case an idealised partner. If there is no harm I seen no point in the pursuing him other than to say stop.

His behaviour does not look predatory. I would say he is probably a late developer so the actual age difference is not relevant in his case. The law needs to be less deterministic and more humane.


Going for chicks 9 years younger when you're in your 20s is a sign of either being a VERY late developer, or being an ephebophile. Either way, it's skeevy. Weren't there any 20-year-olds who liked his music?
 
m00
2014-02-28 06:35:02 PM  

Nix Nightbird: I have turned down girls. Yes, it was painful to have to do so, but if the choice is getting with a girl with a fabulous body and ending up in prison, or living the rest of my life knowing I missed out on the fabulous body but did the right thing, I'll take the latter.


That's not a "moral fiber" argument, that's a "fear of incarceration" argument.
 
2014-02-28 06:39:20 PM  

dittybopper: brimed03: Damn. I was hoping it was that Bieber, er, that Bieber-- what exactly is Bieber again?

I don't know, but this is a Biber:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x480]


I believe the Bieber and the Biber are the same. Biber is the Appalachian pronunciation.
 
2014-02-28 06:44:01 PM  

Nix Nightbird: jamspoon: This does seem a rather pointless prosecution.

If a 16 year old with whom it is is legal to have a sexual relationship engages with someone online they are less at risk than in the real world. As long as the pictures stay private it is safe behaviour. It allows for the person to develop their sexuality, with in this case an idealised partner. If there is no harm I seen no point in the pursuing him other than to say stop.

His behaviour does not look predatory. I would say he is probably a late developer so the actual age difference is not relevant in his case. The law needs to be less deterministic and more humane.

Going for chicks 9 years younger when you're in your 20s is a sign of either being a VERY late developer, or being an ephebophile. Either way, it's skeevy. Weren't there any 20-year-olds who liked his music?


According to the article, well over a majority of the women he solicited were adults.  Maybe he just likes post-pubescent women.
 
2014-02-28 06:44:33 PM  
I don't get his shirt. So some duck is walking with 3 ducklings, they cross the road and now there are 2.

What's the joke? I don't get it.
 
2014-02-28 06:53:55 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I didn't know who this was, either, so I looked up some of his music and it is so awful that I feel others should have to bear some of the weight of my suffering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENZdTTXrdQ8


Didn't anybody else notice the dude is wearing a Boys' and Girls' Club T-shirt?
 
2014-02-28 06:56:21 PM  
bhcompy: ....Maybe he just likes post-pubescent women.

That's just f'ing sick.  I hope you get banned and thrown in prison for 5 years.
 
2014-02-28 07:19:05 PM  
What is this guys name? My place of business has the smoking gun blocked.
 
2014-03-01 12:09:42 AM  
I agree that it's harsh if the youngest was 16.

/the prosecutors wanted 20 years
 
2014-03-01 01:30:37 AM  
Oh dear God why did I click those links to hear this douche?

Yoko Ono and Fran Drescher singing Wrecking Ball while gangraping a syphilitic cat would sound 100x better than that.
 
2014-03-01 07:09:32 AM  

ForrestRump: Everyone keeps saying 5 years in PMITA, but TFA clearly says 5 years probation and register as a sex offender. He will do no more time than he already has.


Read it again. 5 years prison plus 5 years probation.
 
2014-03-01 12:45:43 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I didn't know who this was, either, so I looked up some of his music and it is so awful that I feel others should have to bear some of the weight of my suffering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENZdTTXrdQ8


I have you favorited because I've enjoyed many of your comments in the past, I now hate you.
 
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