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(Guardian)   Photos that illustrate what the FDA's new serving sizes actually look like. Enjoy your tenth of a bagel   (theguardian.com) divider line 147
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2014-02-28 03:29:18 PM  

DubtodaIll: I was told when I was in grade school that a 1 serving is about the size of a deck of cards.


They told me the same thing at magic camp.
 
2014-02-28 03:29:27 PM  

maram500: HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 458x561]

I get that you're being sarcastic here, but what people don't get is that that Mega Jug wasn't meant for one person to consume solo. It was meant for a family.


They say that about everything with absurd proportions, but it never actually works out that way.
 
2014-02-28 03:30:56 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

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I get the joke, but FYI Type 1 diabetes (juvenile) is an auto immune disease. Diet doesn't cause it.
 
2014-02-28 03:31:13 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

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That's awesome.

Help us find a cure! How about not drinking the tub O'soda!
 
2014-02-28 03:31:20 PM  
Wouldn't it be a fifth of the other half? Rounding up?
 
2014-02-28 03:31:30 PM  
Yeah its problematic if you only halfass look at nutrition labels. Oh these potato chips are only 30 calories per serving(look at fine print) 27 servings per bag... so that 30 calories is like A chip.
 
2014-02-28 03:33:14 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Arkanaut: VladTheEmailer: Arkanaut: What's a bagle?

Its the weight of a compressed bald eagle.  So that's still pretty big.

Laden or unladen?

It's been laden.


*Gasp* a bald eagle bein' laden? The terrorists have won.
 
2014-02-28 03:34:21 PM  
hmm... will this undermine the food corps shady math in regards to the "ZERO FAT" bullsh*t?

From what I understand (and I may have been misled here so don't take this as fact) they get to say something has ZERO this that or the other (fat, sodium, sugar, etc) if the percentage per serving is below a certain amount (thus making it a "trace" amount and considered to be "nothing"). Except the companies were being allowed to come up with their own serving sizes which meant they could make the serving size of oh... let's say greasy ass, salt encrusted potato chips to be like 5 chips thus bring the fat/salt content down below the threshold. Then Captain McBlubberbutts everywhere read the label thinking "duurrr... dese be HEALTHY and junk" and scarf down ten bags then wonder why their "diet" isn't helping them lose weight and they have to keep their cardiologist on speed dial.
 
2014-02-28 03:35:03 PM  
Lemme see if I've got this straight...

The serving size listed on food containers seems to be impossibly low, right?  I'm guessing this means that, for all this time, Americans have been assuming that whatever the package size IS, must be the recommended serving size.  And I figured that size was measured based on some formula that says, "assuming you're counting calories, or something, this is about how much of THIS you should eat."  And nothing more.

Well, that's what I always thought.  I realized that there was a "suggested serving" listed there.  But, seriously, I never considered that to be an accurate measure of how much I intend to eat.  1/2 cup of ice cream?!  I eat like 2 cups in a sitting without thinking twice.

So what does this new idea from the First Lady's mean to do?  More accurately describe how much we eat?  Exactly how is that going to change anything?  We will still eat the same.  The only thing that will be different is less math for those that actually read the labels.
 
2014-02-28 03:35:55 PM  
BAGLE?
 
2014-02-28 03:38:01 PM  

durbnpoisn: So what does this new idea from the First Lady's mean to do? More accurately describe how much we eat? Exactly how is that going to change anything? We will still eat the same. The only thing that will be different is less math for those that actually read the labels.


It means Americans will be getting useful and practical information that is easy to comprehend while remaining factual.

Of course Republicans will have a problem with this.
 
2014-02-28 03:38:23 PM  
Well....at least it's more realistic.
 
2014-02-28 03:38:24 PM  
Nothing on breakfast cereal? That's the main one I'd like to see standardized. As it stands they list a serving sizes of 1/2, 3/4, 2/3 and 1 cup, try comparing that while standing in the grocery store.
 
2014-02-28 03:39:30 PM  
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2014-02-28 03:42:23 PM  
I think those portion sizes are fine, but I am a petite female, for a male, they might need more to feel full.
 
2014-02-28 03:44:15 PM  
Man, that was a sad looking bagel.


This is what real bagels look like.

gothamist.com


/Hint: real bagels don't come pre-bagged.
//And you can only get good ones in NY
///Because we have the best jews
 
2014-02-28 03:44:32 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Bagle? I assume you meant Beagle. And yes I will; this is a stupendous Chinese restaurant. Good day.


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2014-02-28 03:44:41 PM  

maram500: I get that you're being sarcastic here, but what people don't get is that that Mega Jug wasn't meant for one person to consume solo. It was meant for a family.


You haven't met my dad.
 
2014-02-28 03:45:20 PM  
Subby sounds like one of those 'pfft gubmint, can't do anything right, amiright!?  ROND PAIL!" derpers.
 
2014-02-28 03:47:38 PM  

sandi_fish: BAGLE?



Beigel. Or possibly beigal.

glamorousglutton.com
 
2014-02-28 03:47:42 PM  

LemSkroob: /Hint: real bagels don't come pre-bagged.
//And you can only get good ones in NY
///Because we have the best jews


Correct.
Correct.
Wrong, it's the water!

\ yeah, no, you're probably right, I've never even been there.
 
2014-02-28 03:49:36 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG


Wow. The serving size for people who just visited the surface of the sun and need a depth-charged sized drink.
 
2014-02-28 03:50:12 PM  
One box of Kraft Mac and Cheese is now gonna be labeled as one serving? Cause that's what the single bachelor I used to be used to do for dinner.
 
2014-02-28 03:50:51 PM  

Magnanimous_J: HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

I'm not a fancy man. I like Kraft Mac and Cheese and those frozen pierogies. I like the $1.50 Costco hot dogs. But I think I have just a tiny bit too much pride to ever say

"Can I get a mega jug of coke?"


img.fark.net

NO WE ONLY SERVE PEPSI WANT SOME TOAST?
 
2014-02-28 03:51:18 PM  
who really pays attention to this shiat?
 
2014-02-28 03:51:22 PM  

durbnpoisn: More accurately describe how much we eat?


Prevent companies from deliberately misleading people about the sugar, fat, or salt content of the food they're eating.

Most people - like you - reasonably assume that one thing or packet is one serving, except when it comes to bulk boxed items like cereal and cookies.

This allows a company to advertise things as "only 50 calories per serving*!" and then in tiny writing elsewhere advise the thing is 10 servings, when you know and I know and they know no one with a sensible brain in their skull considers that thing anything but one serving.

I once bought a fruit and yoghurt thing in a plastic tray with a foil tear-off lid and one spoon.  Read the label - 2.5 servings.  For a 100g un-resealable dairy product.  What a joke.
 
2014-02-28 03:51:50 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

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In my area, retail businesses that reach a certain goal in selling the little paper sneakers for JDRF's annual 'Walk for the Cure' are rewarded with a giant, heavily-frosted, sneaker-shaped sugarbomb chocolate cake.  A coworker who recently lost half his left foot to diabetes finds it particularly amusing.
 
2014-02-28 03:52:38 PM  
So nothing has really changed. The FDA has just made it slightly easier for people who can't do basic math to figure out the nutritional value of what they are eating.

Who am I kidding. "People who can't do basic math," is about 80% of the US.

Carry on, FDA.
 
2014-02-28 03:55:00 PM  

if_i_really_have_to: durbnpoisn: More accurately describe how much we eat?

Prevent companies from deliberately misleading people about the sugar, fat, or salt content of the food they're eating.

Most people - like you - reasonably assume that one thing or packet is one serving, except when it comes to bulk boxed items like cereal and cookies.

This allows a company to advertise things as "only 50 calories per serving*!" and then in tiny writing elsewhere advise the thing is 10 servings, when you know and I know and they know no one with a sensible brain in their skull considers that thing anything but one serving.

I once bought a fruit and yoghurt thing in a plastic tray with a foil tear-off lid and one spoon.  Read the label - 2.5 servings.  For a 100g un-resealable dairy product.  What a joke.


You know, I was thinking that very thing as I was typing it, but I guess I never got that point across.
If this really does come down to making the industry be more forthcoming with what they are packaging, that's a good thing.  It's really strange that it has been allowed to be so misleading for so long.
 
2014-02-28 03:56:00 PM  

sandi_fish: I think those portion sizes are fine, but I am a petite female, for a male, they might need more to feel full.


So you're saying that size matters, right. I knew it!
 
2014-02-28 03:56:09 PM  
Some of these make sense. Some are insane. A whole cup of coffee? No kidding, who drinks half of one? A bagel and 1/10 or part of an avocado? Get real.  Who in the hell eats a bagel and a tenth? Just make it one.  Same with an avo.  Who eats less than or more than 1?  The ice cream is about 1/3rd of a serving.
 
2014-02-28 04:03:38 PM  
On Thursday, first lady Michelle Obama and the Food and Drug Administration

Well as long as the left is putting their best scientist on the case, I for one support it.

// farking idiot should stick to tending her magic garden.
 
2014-02-28 04:04:05 PM  
Mmmmmm.... 1/5 of an over-ripe avocado.

Looks tasty.
 
2014-02-28 04:05:55 PM  
vpb [TotalFark]
(favorite: Blamed "right wing conspiracy " for Family Research Council shooting after shooter was identified as left wing gay activist)


I don't think there's anything wrong with a little bit of poetic license when writing a headline. It isn't a big deal to the editors who write actual headlines.
That's obvious from your past posts. Truth seems to have no value to you.
 
2014-02-28 04:15:51 PM  
Bagel!
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2014-02-28 04:16:01 PM  
Activity level has to come into this some where. I knew a body builder guy that ate 9 meals a day and needed something like 12,000* calories a day to fuel his metabolism.

Exercise.

*talkin' out of ass, but I remember being floored by the number he said. I guess I could google it...nope don't care.
 
2014-02-28 04:17:25 PM  
Seems fairly sensible, which means the Right will be sent into screaming conniptions over it.

So it's a win-win all around.
 
2014-02-28 04:22:47 PM  
Avocado 0 calories
Serving size 1 Avocado
Serving suggestion: place in garbage, acquire proper food, read nutrition information and eat accordingly.
 
2014-02-28 04:24:02 PM  

Oldiron_79: Yeah its problematic if you only halfass look at nutrition labels. Oh these potato chips are only 30 calories per serving(look at fine print) 27 servings per bag... so that 30 calories is like A chip.


That's the whole point though. The FDA knows it's a bullshiat serving size, they want manufacturers to actually be held to a reasonable quantity. They don't care if your chips are 5000 calories each, as long as it's properly disclosed.

Serving sizes are also gamed so that manufacturers can say "0g trans fat!!!!" instead of the more accurate "We set the serving size small enough that the amount of trans fat fell below .5g!"
 
2014-02-28 04:27:12 PM  

OnlyM3: On Thursday, first lady Michelle Obama and the Food and Drug Administration
Well as long as the left is putting their best scientist on the case, I for one support it.

// farking idiot should stick to tending her magic garden.


Let's hear your, what I'm sure will be a completely sane and rational, justification for being against having nutrition labels reflect realistic serving sizes.

I mean I know you are filled with hatred and aren't incredibly smart but it's a real reach to imply this is somehow a bad idea. Please try to state your case without likening the first lady to a gorilla if at all possible.
 
2014-02-28 04:29:07 PM  

busy chillin': Activity level has to come into this some where. I knew a body builder guy that ate 9 meals a day and needed something like 12,000* calories a day to fuel his metabolism.

Exercise.

*talkin' out of ass, but I remember being floored by the number he said. I guess I could google it...nope don't care.


Old-school NFL linemen used to have to wake up in the middle of the night and eat an extra meal of steak and potatoes, to maintain weight.  Now they can use protein shakes.
 
2014-02-28 04:29:13 PM  

sigdiamond2000: DubtodaIll: I was told when I was in grade school that a 1 serving is about the size of a deck of cards.

They told me the same thing at magic camp.


Bridge, poker or Tarot?
 
2014-02-28 04:35:37 PM  

naughtyrev: Where the hell did they find Bartle's and James wine coolers at?


Jesus, do those things just continue to ferment? That might be some pretty good stuff after 20 years or so. You might just see Frank and Ed right there in your living room...
 
2014-02-28 04:40:04 PM  

TwistedIvory: That being said, subby misrepresented that the old labels were somehow passing a tenth of a bagel off as a serving (they weren't; they were using a 55g portion size). Then you went on and said, hey, spiffy, we're getting a new labeling system so that that tenth of a bagel isn't represented as a portion size anymore! the "serving size" on the Nutritional Label is closer to the actual serving size a normal person eats, while recognizing that not all bagels are the same weight/volume/etc.

 
2014-02-28 04:41:10 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Nothing on breakfast cereal? That's the main one I'd like to see standardized. As it stands they list a serving sizes of 1/2, 3/4, 2/3 and 1 cup, try comparing that while standing in the grocery store.


Cereals are sold by weight, not by volume. The volume is approximate. There's always a gram measurement.

Get a kitchen scale, it's your best friend.
 
2014-02-28 04:42:15 PM  
Why is it stupid? I think it's a good idea to increase the serving size of the daily nutritional facts to reflect what's actually being eaten.

A lot of folks don;t actually read the quatity per serving portion/daily but rather go straight to the nutritional facts per serving which gives a distorted and often much less numerical value.

I guess subby must be a 6 footer and weighs 100 ibs wet to WANT to actually think he's eating much less than what he actually ate.
 
2014-02-28 04:43:14 PM  

dj_spanmaster: Magnanimous_J: HotWingConspiracy: I just don't understand Michelle Obama's hatred for kids with diabetes. Think of all the cash this charity will miss out on when sodas can't have Serving Size: MEGA JUG

I'm not a fancy man. I like Kraft Mac and Cheese and those frozen pierogies. I like the $1.50 Costco hot dogs. But I think I have just a tiny bit too much pride to ever say

"Can I get a mega jug of coke?"

[img.fark.net image 251x201]

NO WE ONLY SERVE PEPSI WANT SOME TOAST?


These aren't the mega jugs I wanted to see.
 
2014-02-28 04:44:22 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Seems fairly sensible, which means the Right whoever wants to push for campaign money will be sent into screaming conniptions over it.

So it's a win-win all around.


Greed doesn't follow a political perspective, which is apparently why they pushed for farking SOPA.
/fark politics
 
2014-02-28 04:49:12 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: maram500: I get that you're being sarcastic here, but what people don't get is that that Mega Jug wasn't meant for one person to consume solo. It was meant for a family.

You haven't met my dad.


You haven't met...me.
 
2014-02-28 04:49:25 PM  

Queensowntalia: kronicfeld: What is the new serving size for Internet pedantry?

1/1000th of a Fark.


Also known as a Gredunza

\since we're redefining serving sizes anyway
 
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