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(SeattlePI)   The best part of waking up . . . is doing it before you're embalmed   (seattlepi.com ) divider line
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4661 clicks; posted to Main » on 28 Feb 2014 at 3:25 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-02-28 05:54:26 PM  
2 votes:

SteakMan: Believes?!?!?
How 'bout we download the data and see how long his pulse was gone?


Unfortunately the pacemaker data would be useless to tell that. The ICD/Pacemaker only provides electrical impulses to the heart to provide either atrial, ventricular, or atrioventricular kick necessary for a contraction in the respective areas of the heart, depending on where the pacer lead is implanted. It does not monitor mechanical data on the heart, and it's quite possible for electrical activity to occur with no corresponding mechanical action or contractions. And if he had a loose or frayed lead, the data would be even more unreliable.

If his pulse was "gone" and this man was in true cardiac arrest, he never would have woken up like that. The brain is totally fried, with no CPR, after 10 minutes of cardiac arrest. More than likely what happened is his heart was beating in a profoundly slow rhythm (likely the reason he had the pacemaker placed in the first place), which was enough to perfuse the brain just enough to keep him alive, but not enough to keep him conscious - which would have meant he'd have a slow, weak central pulse and a probably non-existent radial pulse. Either the pacemaker started working again, or the jostling of his body put the pacer lead back in contact with his heart enough that it began to effectively pace him again, and brought his heart rate up enough that he regained consciousness.

This is why you don't rely on a simple pulse-check alone to determine absence of life in a patient you pronounce. This guy was incompetent and lazy.
2014-02-28 03:37:44 PM  
2 votes:
Great headline, Subby
+1
2014-02-28 03:32:39 PM  
2 votes:
In another article I read, the coroner declared it a miracle, which coincidentally deflects from anyone noticing his utter incompetence as a coroner.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-02-28 01:56:35 PM  
2 votes:
I wonder how many times someone woke up while they were being embalmed?

Maybe the embalming technician would just keep quiet to avoid any messy legal entanglements.
2014-02-28 05:01:23 PM  
1 vote:

haolegirl: And from then on he could only become sexually aroused when his partner was wearing latex gloves!

/obscure?


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2014-02-28 04:35:38 PM  
1 vote:

hardinparamedic: This wasn't a miracle. This wasn't an accident.

This was an idiot who simply relied on checking a pulse on a pacemaker dependant man without doing an EKG, checking for heart tones, or palpating for a pulse for a minute.

More than likely, the guy had a loose or damaged pacer lead, and was profoundly bradycardic (slow heart rate), and jostling the man around replanted the lead and allowed the pacemaker to pace his heart back to a rate which perfused his brain.

This was total incompetence.


I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV.  But I agree with your assesment.

I also agree with the person earlier in the thread that pointed out, the coronor only gave him a brief once-over, and declared him dead.  He really didn't try very hard, as there appeared to be no reason to suspect otherwise.
2014-02-28 04:26:42 PM  
1 vote:
This wasn't a miracle. This wasn't an accident.

This was an idiot who simply relied on checking a pulse on a pacemaker dependant man without doing an EKG, checking for heart tones, or palpating for a pulse for a minute.

More than likely, the guy had a loose or damaged pacer lead, and was profoundly bradycardic (slow heart rate), and jostling the man around replanted the lead and allowed the pacemaker to pace his heart back to a rate which perfused his brain.

This was total incompetence.
2014-02-28 03:51:08 PM  
1 vote:

rev. dave: Still not changing my mind about cremation.
Why people still want to make mummies out of themselves is crazy.
The whole idea behind preserving the body was to make it so that people could re-enter their bodies when judgement day comes.  But then you would be a zombie and no one bothered to think about that.


I want cryo-cremation, basically they freeze you in LN2 and then shatter you, it's much better for the environment and just more geeky.
2014-02-28 03:44:51 PM  
1 vote:

cgraves67: In another article I read, the coroner declared it a miracle, which coincidentally deflects from anyone noticing his utter incompetence as a coroner.


Indeed.
2014-02-28 03:37:21 PM  
1 vote:
1. Has this happened to him before?
2. Does he own a sword or other large cutting implement?
2014-02-28 03:34:05 PM  
1 vote:
wait wait,

when he was leaving he turned around and yelled "See you percuLATER!"
2014-02-28 03:33:12 PM  
1 vote:
Q: What would Napolean be doing if he was still alive?

A: Scratching the FARK out of the roof of his casket!

/Tip your bartenders & waitresses
2014-02-28 03:29:19 PM  
1 vote:
"That's some good doctorin' there Bubba!"
2014-02-28 03:29:14 PM  
1 vote:
And from then on he could only become sexually aroused when his partner was wearing latex gloves!

/obscure?
2014-02-28 03:28:46 PM  
1 vote:
Still not changing my mind about cremation.
Why people still want to make mummies out of themselves is crazy.
The whole idea behind preserving the body was to make it so that people could re-enter their bodies when judgement day comes.  But then you would be a zombie and no one bothered to think about that.
2014-02-28 03:27:26 PM  
1 vote:
We've secretly replaced this man's embalming fluid with Folgers Crystals, let's see if he notices.
 
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