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(The New York Times)   Former Ukrainian President Yanukovych does his best Baghdad Bob impression, says "Nobody deposed me"   (nytimes.com) divider line 79
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2014-02-28 02:43:59 PM  
"I just went out for a jog and got lost!"
 
2014-02-28 03:00:53 PM  
Everything is fine
assets.sbnation.com
 
2014-02-28 03:08:16 PM  
HARD FACT #371: If their soldiers are on the soil and yours aren't, and yours can't get theirs off it, it's not your soil anymore, regardless of what your internal laws say.
 
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2014-02-28 03:23:36 PM  
When you are so unpopular that your own guards abandon you and you have to run to escape the country because of a "direct and imminent threat" to your life, you've pretty much been deposed.

He certainly seems to be hoping that Putin will put him back into power though.
 
2014-02-28 03:26:59 PM  
Well, Baghdad Bob turned out to be right in the end, so this might not be the comparison you're looking for.
 
2014-02-28 03:28:47 PM  
Fine. You are the president. Just come back to Ukraine and everything will be fine.
 
2014-02-28 03:40:51 PM  

JerseyTim: Well, Baghdad Bob turned out to be right in the end, so this might not be the comparison you're looking for.


Indeed - there were no Americans in Baghdad and all was well.
 
2014-02-28 03:41:05 PM  

kbronsito: Fine. You are the president. Just come back to Ukraine and everything will be fine.


I bet somebody is Putin him on just like that.
 
2014-02-28 03:41:23 PM  

kbronsito: Fine. You are the president. Just come back to Ukraine and everything will be fine.


The people of Kiev have a cigarette and a stylish bandanna for him, should he decide to return.
 
2014-02-28 03:43:11 PM  
Once they hold legitimate elections, Putin will have no choice but to hand him over.  So he's got maybe 3 months tops as a free man.
 
2014-02-28 03:43:42 PM  
Looks like some shiat is going down in the Crimea, he may be back before you can say "Black Sea Fleet".
 
2014-02-28 03:44:25 PM  
"Hey guys, I'm back, man what a cra"--BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
 
2014-02-28 03:47:29 PM  
So he went on a "secret summit" or a vacation?
 
2014-02-28 03:47:31 PM  
So if I flee my job to another country then call to say I don't know when or how I'm coming back. I should still have my job?
 
2014-02-28 03:47:55 PM  
Ok, Vlad, you put me back in power down there and when you come visit, I'll make everyone do this with their right arm when you pass by... LOL!
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2014-02-28 03:50:05 PM  
All fake news anyway, just like the Iraq "war."

Gonna fall for this one?
 
2014-02-28 03:50:39 PM  
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Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?
 
2014-02-28 03:53:57 PM  
This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.
 
2014-02-28 03:59:20 PM  

PsiChi: All fake news anyway, just like the Iraq "war."

Gonna fall for this one?


Are you suffering from brain trauma?
 
2014-02-28 04:01:21 PM  
I was just out hiking on the Appalachian Trail . . .
 
2014-02-28 04:01:22 PM  

jshine: JerseyTim: Well, Baghdad Bob turned out to be right in the end, so this might not be the comparison you're looking for.

Indeed - there were no Americans in Baghdad and all was well.


There were no WMDs.
Iraq will not be easy to capture. "They do not know in what mud they are wading."
The US are foreign invaders and civilians will resist them.

But, hey, he was such a funny character!
 
2014-02-28 04:02:36 PM  
You know who else thought they were still running their country:

d2nh4f9cbhlobh.cloudfront.net
 
2014-02-28 04:03:58 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.


if you can't be president of Ukraine you can at least be governor of a Russian Crimea.
 
2014-02-28 04:04:54 PM  

JerseyTim: Well, Baghdad Bob turned out to be right in the end, so this might not be the comparison you're looking for.


lolwut?
 
2014-02-28 04:06:09 PM  
World War 3 is gonna be a blast.
 
2014-02-28 04:06:29 PM  

JerseyTim: jshine: JerseyTim: Well, Baghdad Bob turned out to be right in the end, so this might not be the comparison you're looking for.

Indeed - there were no Americans in Baghdad and all was well.

There were no WMDs.
Iraq will not be easy to capture. "They do not know in what mud they are wading."
The US are foreign invaders and civilians will resist them.

But, hey, he was such a funny character!


He did not get his reputation because of his statements about WMD, Iraq WAS easy to capture, and his statements were all about how SADDAM would come out on top, not the people of Iraq.
 
2014-02-28 04:08:51 PM  
Russia won't put Weird-Al Yanukovich on the throne in Ukraine. They may acquire Ukraine back into the empire... but putting weird Al back wouldn't make sense.


That said... I'm tired of Putin keep kicking the US and Natos arse. He always wins.


"Putin... don't you dare invade Georgia and take territories from them...

Damn it Putin! OK... go ahead then."


"Syria needs to stop killing their own people and install democracy. What's that Putin... Syria is your friend? Oh OK... go ahead supply weapons to the dictator then. We won't stop you."

"Don't you dare invade Crimea or Ukraine! Oh what's that... there are Russians there... our bad Putin... take whatever you need."

America has become Russia's biatch.
 
2014-02-28 04:09:21 PM  
Wasn't he calling it a "coup" like two days ago?

If that ain't being "deposed", what is?
 
2014-02-28 04:11:32 PM  
"My opinion -- as usual -- is that we will slaughter them all."

Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, btw, was charged with no crimes for his role as the Iraqi defense ministry spokesman, and lives quietly today in the UAE.
 
2014-02-28 04:15:20 PM  

CleanAndPure: America has become Russia's biatch.


You know what you're right.  We should just get it over with already.  We can start with a little saber rattling foreplay and then take it up a notch and declare war against Russia.  That will restore our rightful place in the world.
 
2014-02-28 04:15:34 PM  

CleanAndPure: America has become Russia's biatch.


LOLWUT
 
2014-02-28 04:16:02 PM  
I'm still the president of Ukraine, yeah, and I will soon return to my palace with my wife ... Morgan Fairchild! Who I have sex with. Yeah, that's the ticket!

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2014-02-28 04:16:19 PM  

CleanAndPure: Russia won't put Weird-Al Yanukovich on the throne in Ukraine. They may acquire Ukraine back into the empire... but putting weird Al back wouldn't make sense.


That said... I'm tired of Putin keep kicking the US and Natos arse. He always wins.


"Putin... don't you dare invade Georgia and take territories from them...

Damn it Putin! OK... go ahead then."


"Syria needs to stop killing their own people and install democracy. What's that Putin... Syria is your friend? Oh OK... go ahead supply weapons to the dictator then. We won't stop you."

"Don't you dare invade Crimea or Ukraine! Oh what's that... there are Russians there... our bad Putin... take whatever you need."

America has become Russia's biatch.


One of the articles earlier this week described his foreign policy as "waiting till his opponents are unstable, then applying force". Now, I believe the man knows Judo. It's almost like he's applying the principles of that art to foreign policy.
 
2014-02-28 04:17:56 PM  

mbillips: "My opinion -- as usual -- is that we will slaughter them all."

Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, btw, was charged with no crimes for his role as the Iraqi defense ministry spokesman, and lives quietly today in the UAE.




Other than being a PR hack for the Iraqi forces, what did he do that was worthy of a war crimes tribunal?
 
2014-02-28 04:18:06 PM  

CleanAndPure: "Syria needs to stop killing their own people and install democracy. What's that Putin... Syria is your friend? Oh OK... go ahead supply weapons to the dictator then. We won't stop you."


"Syria needs to stop using chemical weapons. What's that Putin? You're sending a target ship? What, that's supposed to scare us? We're still coming. Oh, you've convinced them to get rid of their WMDs? Oh, ok. Go ahead. And thanks for the UN verification recently that you followed through."
 
2014-02-28 04:19:09 PM  
Also Ukrainians are naziest nazies that ever nazied and half of them really want to be part of Russia because they know Russian
 
2014-02-28 04:19:56 PM  

illogic: CleanAndPure: America has become Russia's biatch.

You know what you're right.  We should just get it over with already.  We can start with a little saber rattling foreplay and then take it up a notch and declare war against Russia.  That will restore our rightful place in the world.


We will never fight over Eastern Europe. That's why I think it was a mistake to admit the Baltic States into NATO. At least with Ukraine, failing to do anything won't destroy NATO. When Lithuania's turn comes, though, NATO will fall apart.
 
2014-02-28 04:20:22 PM  
I can't wait to see what Russia will do next. The suspense is terrible.

/It's like a sad, dark comedy some days.
//I feel more than a little bad for laughing at it. The people of the Ukraine deserve better government.
 
2014-02-28 04:28:40 PM  

CleanAndPure: Russia won't put Weird-Al Yanukovich on the throne in Ukraine. They may acquire Ukraine back into the empire... but putting weird Al back wouldn't make sense.


That said... I'm tired of Putin keep kicking the US and Natos arse. He always wins.


"Putin... don't you dare invade Georgia and take territories from them...

Damn it Putin! OK... go ahead then."


"Syria needs to stop killing their own people and install democracy. What's that Putin... Syria is your friend? Oh OK... go ahead supply weapons to the dictator then. We won't stop you."

"Don't you dare invade Crimea or Ukraine! Oh what's that... there are Russians there... our bad Putin... take whatever you need."

America has become Russia's biatch.


Lol.   One of the major geo-political dynamics these days is Russia's decade of dealing with no longer being one of the two dominant superpowers in the world.  They have a massive inferiority complex, as evidenced by the Sochi mess that cost more than all other Olympics combined.
 
2014-02-28 04:35:27 PM  
This reminds me of the theory that America is still an English territory because our colonial charters included language that disallowed acts of revolt and therefore our War of Independence was illegal.

At the end of the day it's up to the entity with a monopoly on legitimate use of force in a territory to determine what is or isn't legal, and that's not you Chuckles.
 
2014-02-28 04:37:10 PM  
What a Ukranian ex-politician might look like:

jimcofer.com
 
2014-02-28 04:37:41 PM  

indylaw: mbillips: "My opinion -- as usual -- is that we will slaughter them all."

Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, btw, was charged with no crimes for his role as the Iraqi defense ministry spokesman, and lives quietly today in the UAE.

Other than being a PR hack for the Iraqi forces, what did he do that was worthy of a war crimes tribunal?


Make fun of the US?
 
2014-02-28 04:45:56 PM  
I liked his "My Bologna" song.
 
2014-02-28 04:49:08 PM  

indylaw: mbillips: "My opinion -- as usual -- is that we will slaughter them all."

Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, btw, was charged with no crimes for his role as the Iraqi defense ministry spokesman, and lives quietly today in the UAE.

Other than being a PR hack for the Iraqi forces, what did he do that was worthy of a war crimes tribunal?


Nothin'. So many of Saddam's inner circle WERE war criminals though, that Baghdad Bob kind of stands out.
 
2014-02-28 04:52:32 PM  

LewDux: Also Ukrainians are naziest nazies that ever nazied and half of them really want to be part of Russia because they know Russian


It's more like 25-30 percent that are ethnic Russian and Russian-speakers. The "good guys," the Ukrainian nationalists, also include most of the pro-Nazi types, but they're a small minority within that faction. And historically they were more anti-Stalin than pro-Hitler; they were no more anti-Semitic than the Soviets (which isn't much of a compliment).
 
2014-02-28 04:52:55 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.


Exactly. He is saying what needs to be said to give Russia a fig leaf under which to act. Yanukovich was never deposed and if he was, it was illegal. He just went on a surprise trip to visit Ukraine's ally, Russia while at home someone decided to illegally take over the country. Russia should thwart the illegal activities and over-throw the illegal government. This is what Russia and Yanukovich are planning on.
 
2014-02-28 04:55:02 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: I can't wait to see what Russia will do next. The suspense is terrible.

/It's like a sad, dark comedy some days.
//I feel more than a little bad for laughing at it. The people of the Ukraine deserve better government.


Yeah, this. I've got the radio on most of the day, and whenever the news comes on, I switch off as it's doing my head in.

The spin from Putin and Weird Vik is farking disgusting and those pricks both deserve a cockpunch.

Shame they couldn't have Ceaușescu'd Yanukovych; Putin might have backed off a bit.

/I mean, I don't support the idea of capital punishment/execution at all, but perhaps that's a catharsis that would have been good for the people of Ukraine.
 
2014-02-28 04:59:16 PM  

greentea1985: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.

Exactly. He is saying what needs to be said to give Russia a fig leaf under which to act. Yanukovich was never deposed and if he was, it was illegal. He just went on a surprise trip to visit Ukraine's ally, Russia while at home someone decided to illegally take over the country. Russia should thwart the illegal activities and over-throw the illegal government. This is what Russia and Yanukovich are planning on.


Who exactly is he trying to sell that story to?  Because that's clearly not the truth.
I'm guessing the answer to that question is "the rest of the world".  Because if, and when, the Russian's move in, there has to be some support from the rest of the world.  Common sense would dictate, anyway.
 
2014-02-28 05:03:17 PM  

durbnpoisn: greentea1985: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.

Exactly. He is saying what needs to be said to give Russia a fig leaf under which to act. Yanukovich was never deposed and if he was, it was illegal. He just went on a surprise trip to visit Ukraine's ally, Russia while at home someone decided to illegally take over the country. Russia should thwart the illegal activities and over-throw the illegal government. This is what Russia and Yanukovich are planning on.

Who exactly is he trying to sell that story to?  Because that's clearly not the truth.
I'm guessing the answer to that question is "the rest of the world".  Because if, and when, the Russian's move in, there has to be some support from the rest of the world.  Common sense would dictate, anyway.


Nobody has to believe him, the Russians just need him to say that so they can say that they believe him as an excuse to put him back in power. It legitimizes their actions to a certain extent and creates uncertainty for anyone who opposes them.
 
2014-02-28 05:03:27 PM  

greentea1985: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: This sounds suspiciously like an opportunity to portray himself as the legitimate government of Ukraine, establish a Russian-backed alternative to that in Kiev and ... well, partition the country.

Exactly. He is saying what needs to be said to give Russia a fig leaf under which to act. Yanukovich was never deposed and if he was, it was illegal. He just went on a surprise trip to visit Ukraine's ally, Russia while at home someone decided to illegally take over the country. Russia should thwart the illegal activities and over-throw the illegal government. This is what Russia and Yanukovich are planning on.


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And is what the hairsplitters at the UN will use to keep the EU and US out of it except for humanitarian aid and covert stuff.

Not that I think we should be getting involved anyway as we got enough on the table as is.
 
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