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(Slate)   Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays   (slate.com) divider line 36
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2014-02-28 12:09:31 PM  
7 votes:
You can't go wrong pandering to the

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....crowd.

For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great
2014-02-28 01:05:35 PM  
6 votes:
Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?
2014-02-28 01:43:42 PM  
3 votes:
Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays

Yet.

Persecution always works best at first because they never go after large groups or sympathetic groups.  It's always the maligned and distrusted groups that persecution fixates on first.

And when you protest against that persecution, you get maligned in turn, called sympathizer and abettor or closet member of that targeted group.  So people don't stand up for the persecuted out of fear.

It's easy to yell 'godwin' at my post, but this is a sincere case of similar methods and thinking to that group from the 30s and 40s.
2014-02-28 01:09:28 PM  
3 votes:

Mugato: now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


Actually, you sound logical.
you make sense.

that is why no one in a position of power or authority will listen to you.
2014-02-28 01:07:51 PM  
3 votes:

factoryconnection: But honestly, this license plate thing? There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


Summer Glau's Love Slave: Can get these plates in different colors, or with zany fonts?


It's not on the car plates...just the license card you carry. The submitter apparently didn't read the article.
2014-02-28 03:40:44 PM  
2 votes:
Here is the sample license:
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I feel so sorry for the guy who posed for that stock photograph.

And why did they choose that picture?  My God, he looks so damn happy to be a sex offender.  "I rape little girls!  Wooohoooo!"

On a serious note, I am kinda confused about the practicality of this.  By an overwhelming margin, Grinny McGroper up there is more likely to diddle his own kids or the kids of a blood relative than a stranger's kid.  So unless he plans to whip this bad boy out at Thanksgiving dinner, run victory laps around the dining room, holding this thing aloft and screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!  I want to fondle the toddlers!", it doens't really serve a useful purpose.  Of course, considering his gleeful expression, he just might...
2014-02-28 02:44:12 PM  
2 votes:

factoryconnection: Mugato: *edidt*The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior.

But honestly, this license plate thing?  There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


ATFA,
There IS a marking on the license plate about this...just not a great big sign saying
HELLO, I AM A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER. PLEASE HELP MAKE MY LIFE A LIVING HELL BECAUSE JESUS. HAVE A NICE DAY!
This information is readily available in other areas as well...and all without having to go down I forget how many flights of steps, avoid the tiger and move the filing cabinet.

While sex offenses (real ones, where people get hurt, not just taking a leak in an inappropriate venue)are not funny, it's hard enough for the person if they are honestly trying to stay on track. They don't need an asshole like this, trumpeting "Think Of The Children!" when he means "Think of the the backs and necks of these idiots I can use as ladder rungs on my way up!"

The fact that the R.S.O.s have kids, whom they are trying to raise is such a way that the abusive cycle is broken means nothing...or the trouble this would cause for the kids as well as the "lost-his/her-membership-to-the-human-race' parent. Apparently, those aren't 'real' children.

"Sin starts when people start treatin' other people as things."
Granny Weatherwax
Sir Terry Pratchett
2014-02-28 02:38:40 PM  
2 votes:

Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Defining homosexuality as simply "putting tab a in hole a" regardless of the circumstances is offensive.  Homosexuality is not defined solely by anal sex.  Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.  There is no question that SOME pedophiles may also be homosexual, but to say that all men who rape underage male children are gay is ridiculous.
2014-02-28 12:05:40 PM  
2 votes:
He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.
2014-03-01 02:06:04 PM  
1 votes:

James10952001: Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.

And yet here we go again. Sex offender is not the same as convicted child rapist. While all convicted child rapists are sex offenders, statistically a minority of sex offenders are child rapists. The term covers a huge range of things.


And yet here we go again - someone else who doesn't read the thread but just comments.

I said this law should only apply to those convicted of a sexual assault and deemed a danger to society.

Not public urination, not the eighteen year old sleeping with his seventeen year old girlfriend, that is why I said people who rape children.
2014-03-01 12:46:12 AM  
1 votes:
Treating people who got in trouble for consensual sex or for public urination like the worst scum on earth seems a tad strange considering all it ends up doing is making those people into outcasts who can no longer contribute to society in any meaningful way.
2014-03-01 12:12:52 AM  
1 votes:
My opinion--since sex offenders have a high recidivism rate, you might as well KEEP them in jail.  Then you know they won't be after your kids.

Ohio already has what I call drunk-driver plates.  What license plate would you have if you've been convicted of DUI *and* child molestation?
2014-02-28 09:36:43 PM  
1 votes:
Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

"Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me"


>>Sounds like someone has holocaust obsession. That was actually a reference to "The Scarlet Letter'. Keep doing your job tho! :thumbsup:
2014-02-28 09:28:37 PM  
1 votes:

Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me


Haven't finished the rest of the comments yet so someone may have beaten me to it but...I'm betting this is a reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's, The Scarlet Letter.  That is a MUCH more obvious comparison.  Some of us older Farkers who had honors English got the reference, you younger or less tortured American literature students won't.  This is a learning moment for you, don't jump to conclusions...
2014-02-28 03:14:55 PM  
1 votes:

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Even putting aside the very real problem that "sex offender" can be a disturbingly broad category (e.g., an 18 year old has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend); as a general rule, I don't think that it's a good idea to provide the public with an excuse for vigilantism, even against those who might otherwise deserve it.


This is a concern. If we want to punish someone we should have the balls to do it rather than a wink and an appeal to a lynch mob. How many offenders will park their molestermobile in a school zone, and be caught? How many women will come out drunk from a bar and not get in the car of a paroled rapist when she sees the plate? Somehow I think very few. Keep 'em in jail if they are still so dangerous.
2014-02-28 02:59:14 PM  
1 votes:

Egoy3k: Mugato:now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great

That's the problem with these sorts of laws, fighting them is political suicide.   None of the sober thought required for good governance actually gets done because nobody wants to see attack ads about how they voted to support pedophiles.


This. Same reason laws ratchet up against DUI or drug users. Nobody wanted to be tarred as a supporter just for saying that current penalties are enough or that the new proposed penalties might go too far or be counter productive.
2014-02-28 02:58:08 PM  
1 votes:
That jerk should be forced to have "Stupid Teabagger" printed in red on HIS license plate.
2014-02-28 02:51:23 PM  
1 votes:

Bullseyed: teenytinycornteeth: Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.

Defining homosexuality as simply "putting tab a in hole a" regardless of the circumstances is offensive.  Homosexuality is not defined solely by anal sex.  Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.  There is no question that SOME pedophiles may also be homosexual, but to say that all men who rape underage male children are gay is ridiculous.

Uh oh, someone doesn't know what sexuality is.


Uh oh, someone doesn't know what rape is.
2014-02-28 02:36:02 PM  
1 votes:

Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me


Since Tennessee Teabagger said "that (marking their clothes) would be fine", I suspect one of us needs our sarcasm meter calibrated. Either mine registered a false positive on wantingout's post or yours isn't working.
2014-02-28 02:29:54 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-02-28 02:28:34 PM  
1 votes:
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ACLU to the rescue!
2014-02-28 02:24:10 PM  
1 votes:

apoptotic: He wants the lettering on the licenses, not the plates. And "...added that the law could also come in handy at "malls, grocery stores, retail outlets-all kinds of places where children are."

So he's saying that anyone that goes anywhere that there might be children present should be prepared to show ID.

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.

Someone asked him that (although said scarlet letters) and according to TFA he replied "Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


FTA: "
At a meeting on Wednesday, Tennessee House transportation committee chair Rep. Vince Dean pushed back against the bill. "Is it your intention to cause that person embarrassment if they, say, go to buy a pack of cigarettes or a pack of Copenhagen?" he asked, adding: "It brings to mind that, maybe, a scarlet letter put on his breast might work as well."

"Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


Hell, why not bring out the stockades at this point? Maybe a symbol they can sew onto their clothes? Maybe a star of some type?
2014-02-28 02:15:35 PM  
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Disagree.  And all too often, bigots like to smear the gay community as being pedophiles who have to 'convert' children to maintain their numbers.
2014-02-28 02:06:07 PM  
1 votes:
To be fair, all Teabaggers should be required to stamp "INBRED" on their license plates.
2014-02-28 02:03:53 PM  
1 votes:

doyner: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Came here to say something similar.  Step one: pass licence plate law.  Step two: pass law declaring homosexuality a "sex offense."  Step three: TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY


Step two here was declared unconstitutional by a 2003 decision called Texas v. Lawrence. That case involved exactly the situation you're talking about. Two homosexuals were placed on Texas's sex offender registry after conviction for homosexual acts they performed in the privacy one of the pair's home. Texas v. Lawrence held that private non-commercial sexual relations between consenting adults fall within the scope of the Due Process Clause's privacy protections.

Conservatives lambasted the decision at the time. The right wing butthurt was epic. There were calls to impeach some members of the Supreme Court as "liberal activist judges." Those conservatives who claim they don't want to outlaw homosexuality are, in general, lying. That's exactly what they want to do. And they want to make homosexuals into sex offenders.

Of course, we do have a more conservative Supreme Court now. So were I a Republican legislator in a Teabagger state, I'd look into the possibility of criminalizing homosexual relations again.
2014-02-28 02:01:48 PM  
1 votes:
"If this idea is deemed to be overstepping the bounds of government, what the hell do you call our current gun control policy?" -- personally? changing the subject.
2014-02-28 01:53:44 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

I don't know. Ask the happily married man with a wife and three kids why he likes to fark little boys.


"Happily" - not sure you know the definition.
2014-02-28 01:47:11 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.


How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?
2014-02-28 01:45:29 PM  
1 votes:

the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?


farkin' a
2014-02-28 01:44:29 PM  
1 votes:

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.


I'm thinking forehead tattoo.
2014-02-28 01:40:49 PM  
1 votes:
Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.
2014-02-28 01:39:47 PM  
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.


Not true.  Pedophillia is something quite different from hetero and homosexuality.
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-28 01:35:05 PM  
1 votes:
Is a "fiscal conservative?"

Let me name 3 ways he just violated his own "beliefs:"

- The DMV bureaucracy needed to make sure the stamps get on the licenses properly.
- The Judicial bureaucracy needed to deal with the mistakes the DMV bureaucracy makes (including defamation lawsuits that arise with the $8 workers get it wrong).
- The fact that someone what got caught having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend (when he was 18) will now find it even HARDER to get a job and will be forced to live on the government dole.
2014-02-28 01:35:00 PM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.
2014-02-28 01:00:53 PM  
1 votes:

factoryconnection: The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior


Some states aren't like that though. Again though, why aren't legislatures pushing for the same thing for other violent crimes? It's just pandering to the "think of the children!" crowd and anyone who questions it is down with child rape.

Party of smaller government.
2014-02-28 12:55:23 PM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Came here to say something similar.  Step one: pass licence plate law.  Step two: pass law declaring homosexuality a "sex offense."  Step three: TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY
 
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