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(Slate)   Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays   (slate.com) divider line 165
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2014-02-28 12:05:40 PM
He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.
 
2014-02-28 12:09:31 PM
You can't go wrong pandering to the

img.fark.net

....crowd.

For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great
 
2014-02-28 12:10:47 PM
It probably is. Subby just hasn't thought it through
 
2014-02-28 12:24:12 PM
Tennessee Teabagger? i loved that cartoon as a kid!
 
2014-02-28 12:25:55 PM

FlashHarry: Tennessee Teabagger? i loved that cartoon as a kid!


Him and his portly sidekick. Good times.
 
2014-02-28 12:46:40 PM

Mugato: For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior.

But honestly, this license plate thing?  There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.
 
2014-02-28 12:55:23 PM

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Came here to say something similar.  Step one: pass licence plate law.  Step two: pass law declaring homosexuality a "sex offense."  Step three: TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY
 
2014-02-28 12:58:10 PM
Can get these plates in different colors, or with zany fonts?
 
2014-02-28 01:00:53 PM

factoryconnection: The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior


Some states aren't like that though. Again though, why aren't legislatures pushing for the same thing for other violent crimes? It's just pandering to the "think of the children!" crowd and anyone who questions it is down with child rape.

Party of smaller government.
 
2014-02-28 01:05:35 PM
Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?
 
2014-02-28 01:07:51 PM

factoryconnection: But honestly, this license plate thing? There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


Summer Glau's Love Slave: Can get these plates in different colors, or with zany fonts?


It's not on the car plates...just the license card you carry. The submitter apparently didn't read the article.
 
2014-02-28 01:09:28 PM

Mugato: now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


Actually, you sound logical.
you make sense.

that is why no one in a position of power or authority will listen to you.
 
2014-02-28 01:10:52 PM
If I had to drive a car with those plates, I would dress like a clown.
Just for the giggles.
 
2014-02-28 01:32:45 PM

shanrick: FlashHarry: Tennessee Teabagger? i loved that cartoon as a kid!

Him and his portly sidekick. Good times.

Who went on to gainful employment at Gold and Silver Pawn in Las Vegas

 
2014-02-28 01:33:15 PM
there goes my  Sax Often Doctor license plate

SXOFNDR
 
2014-02-28 01:33:44 PM

Mugato: You can't go wrong pandering to the

img.fark.net

....crowd.


Sure thing Rep. Hill. While we're at it, why don't we have license plates that say GUN OWNER, too? You know... for the children.

/gun owner
 
2014-02-28 01:35:00 PM

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-28 01:35:05 PM
Is a "fiscal conservative?"

Let me name 3 ways he just violated his own "beliefs:"

- The DMV bureaucracy needed to make sure the stamps get on the licenses properly.
- The Judicial bureaucracy needed to deal with the mistakes the DMV bureaucracy makes (including defamation lawsuits that arise with the $8 workers get it wrong).
- The fact that someone what got caught having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend (when he was 18) will now find it even HARDER to get a job and will be forced to live on the government dole.
 
2014-02-28 01:36:00 PM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-02-28 01:36:56 PM
Hester Hester Preacher Molester
 
2014-02-28 01:38:20 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
/jimmy fallon
 
2014-02-28 01:38:36 PM

Mugato: You can't go wrong pandering to the

[img.fark.net image 154x199]

....crowd.

For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


Oh, it's not that.  You might think twice about that "Ask me about NAMBLA" bumper sticker, though....B^D
 
2014-02-28 01:38:41 PM
I wish CT would do this with the people with multiple DUI's, and are still allowed to drive. Obviously they would need to use a DUI stamp, not one that says sex offender.

\My neighbor has 5 (yes 5) DUI convictions, he still has a valid drivers license in CT
 
2014-02-28 01:39:47 PM

Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.


Not true.  Pedophillia is something quite different from hetero and homosexuality.
 
2014-02-28 01:40:16 PM
I am convinced that people who propose this type of things are actually people who would love to tattoo their entire body but are repressing it. So they project that out and try to mark other people with various signs and symbols. It's the modern version of the Scarlett Letter. These people just have to find someone to mark, someone, anyone will do. Maybe in the alternative it come from dogs marking their territory. I dunno. I simply find the psychology plainly weird.
 
2014-02-28 01:40:19 PM
At some point this whole sex offender nonsense will get to the supreme court and probably be struck down.
 
2014-02-28 01:40:36 PM

smoky2010: I wish CT would do this with the people with multiple DUI's, and are still allowed to drive. Obviously they would need to use a DUI stamp, not one that says sex offender.

\My neighbor has 5 (yes 5) DUI convictions, he still has a valid drivers license in CT


In Ohio, a repeat DUI offender gets a yellow licence plate. They're purdy.
 
2014-02-28 01:40:49 PM
Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.
 
2014-02-28 01:41:42 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-28 01:41:54 PM

onzmadi: there goes my  Sax Often Doctor license plate

SXOFNDR


static.squarespace.com
 
2014-02-28 01:41:54 PM
Is showing your ID some type of grooming method for pedophiles or something?
 
2014-02-28 01:42:59 PM

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Shh, that's Step 2.
 
2014-02-28 01:43:42 PM
Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays

Yet.

Persecution always works best at first because they never go after large groups or sympathetic groups.  It's always the maligned and distrusted groups that persecution fixates on first.

And when you protest against that persecution, you get maligned in turn, called sympathizer and abettor or closet member of that targeted group.  So people don't stand up for the persecuted out of fear.

It's easy to yell 'godwin' at my post, but this is a sincere case of similar methods and thinking to that group from the 30s and 40s.
 
2014-02-28 01:44:12 PM
Mugato:now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great

That's the problem with these sorts of laws, fighting them is political suicide.   None of the sober thought required for good governance actually gets done because nobody wants to see attack ads about how they voted to support pedophiles.
 
2014-02-28 01:44:29 PM

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.


I'm thinking forehead tattoo.
 
2014-02-28 01:45:08 PM
Invest in car rental companies.
 
2014-02-28 01:45:15 PM
Depends. How many of the sex offenders were gay?
 
2014-02-28 01:45:29 PM

the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?


farkin' a
 
2014-02-28 01:45:42 PM

Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.


This has been shown to not be true.
 
2014-02-28 01:45:45 PM

Musikslayer: smoky2010: I wish CT would do this with the people with multiple DUI's, and are still allowed to drive. Obviously they would need to use a DUI stamp, not one that says sex offender.

\My neighbor has 5 (yes 5) DUI convictions, he still has a valid drivers license in CT

In Ohio, a repeat DUI offender gets a yellow licence plate. They're purdy.


I'll have to keep an eye out for those!
 
2014-02-28 01:46:23 PM

RKade: the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?

farkin' a


You sound like a sex offender...
 
2014-02-28 01:47:11 PM

Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.


How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?
 
2014-02-28 01:47:14 PM
the_rev:

It's not on the car plates...just the license card you carry. The submitter apparently didn't read the article.

Shhhhhhh.

They're on a roll.
 
2014-02-28 01:47:15 PM
img.fark.net
"Ah geez, I just paid $50 for those plates to tell the ladies I'm a smooth criminal in the bedroom. Now you're tellin' me it's a bad thing?"
 
2014-02-28 01:48:43 PM

the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?


How dare you bring reason into this thread? How dare you, sir?
 
2014-02-28 01:50:42 PM
It's like Nancy Pelosi must have submitted this.

Everybody give your opinion, vote if the idea has any merit, then once we've all made up our minds there will be plenty of time to actually READ the article and see what it says.
 
2014-02-28 01:50:55 PM

Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?


I don't know. Ask the happily married man with a wife and three kids why he likes to fark little boys.
 
2014-02-28 01:51:01 PM
My boss is also a Christian minister. I just had an interesting conversation with him. Turns out, he's a big equal rights supporter. He recently defended marriage equality to some Indiana state congressmen, and was also on a conference call with Jan Brewer about that anti-gay bill in Arizona before she ended up vetoing it. He's very active in his support.
 
2014-02-28 01:52:07 PM
So liberals are now pro-child-rape? I don't get it.

"Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever "

So you're insinuating that there is an appropriate length of punishment for raping children? Personally I'd put that at "life" but hey to each their own.
 
2014-02-28 01:52:23 PM
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-28 01:53:44 PM

Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

I don't know. Ask the happily married man with a wife and three kids why he likes to fark little boys.


"Happily" - not sure you know the definition.
 
2014-02-28 01:53:51 PM

factoryconnection: Mugato: For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great

The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior.

But honestly, this license plate thing?  There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


If the person is sitting in a school parking lot, how would you know? Are you going to pull up their mug shot on your phone and try to compare?

If this idea is deemed to be overstepping the bounds of government, what the hell do you call our current gun control policy?
 
2014-02-28 01:55:05 PM

the801:


Came here for this. Thank you!
 
2014-02-28 01:56:04 PM

smoky2010: I'll have to keep an eye out for those!


They look like New Mexico Plates. Assuming that New Mexico still has the bright yellow plate with the red letters/numbers.
 
2014-02-28 01:58:26 PM

Infernalist: Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays

Yet.

Persecution always works best at first because they never go after large groups or sympathetic groups.  It's always the maligned and distrusted groups that persecution fixates on first.

And when you protest against that persecution, you get maligned in turn, called sympathizer and abettor or closet member of that targeted group.  So people don't stand up for the persecuted out of fear.


It's easy to yell 'godwin' at my post, but this is a sincere case of similar methods and thinking to that group from the 30s and 40s.


Like the WBC and owners of "assault weapons" right?
 
2014-02-28 01:59:20 PM

Bullseyed: If the person is sitting in a school parking lot, how would you know? Are you going to pull up their mug shot on your phone and try to compare?


The most likely perpetrator of child sex abuse is someone the family knows and trusts... including family members.  Typically (see: Jerry Sandusky) victims are screened from vulnerable families (Second Mile charity for disadvantaged youth: check) and groomed with special treatment and gifts (visits to football games et cetera: check).  While there is a threat of the random kid-snatcher out there, it is small compared to the "trusted friend" predator.

Also: this bill is for license cards, not license plates.  Most likely because license plates are for cars, cards are for people.
 
2014-02-28 01:59:41 PM
He wants the lettering on the licenses, not the plates. And "...added that the law could also come in handy at "malls, grocery stores, retail outlets-all kinds of places where children are."

So he's saying that anyone that goes anywhere that there might be children present should be prepared to show ID.

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.


Someone asked him that (although said scarlet letters) and according to TFA he replied "Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."
 
2014-02-28 02:01:48 PM
"If this idea is deemed to be overstepping the bounds of government, what the hell do you call our current gun control policy?" -- personally? changing the subject.
 
2014-02-28 02:03:53 PM

doyner: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Came here to say something similar.  Step one: pass licence plate law.  Step two: pass law declaring homosexuality a "sex offense."  Step three: TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY


Step two here was declared unconstitutional by a 2003 decision called Texas v. Lawrence. That case involved exactly the situation you're talking about. Two homosexuals were placed on Texas's sex offender registry after conviction for homosexual acts they performed in the privacy one of the pair's home. Texas v. Lawrence held that private non-commercial sexual relations between consenting adults fall within the scope of the Due Process Clause's privacy protections.

Conservatives lambasted the decision at the time. The right wing butthurt was epic. There were calls to impeach some members of the Supreme Court as "liberal activist judges." Those conservatives who claim they don't want to outlaw homosexuality are, in general, lying. That's exactly what they want to do. And they want to make homosexuals into sex offenders.

Of course, we do have a more conservative Supreme Court now. So were I a Republican legislator in a Teabagger state, I'd look into the possibility of criminalizing homosexual relations again.
 
2014-02-28 02:03:59 PM
And once again, metalheads lose. They're going to get mistaken for real sex offenders, when all they're doing is trying to promote their favorite band.
 
2014-02-28 02:05:15 PM

Calmamity: Mugato: You can't go wrong pandering to the

img.fark.net

....crowd.

Sure thing Rep. Hill. While we're at it, why don't we have license plates that say GUN OWNER, too? You know... for the children.

/gun owner


No, please no. That will only increase the likelihood of a smashed window and some jacka** rummaging through my car. Especially in parking lots where the gun must be left in the car.

/fully legal gun owner
//leave it at home when I cannot take it with me

Teabaggers...

2.bp.blogspot.com

...always looking for a reason to post this guy and express my opinion of tea baggers.
 
2014-02-28 02:06:07 PM
To be fair, all Teabaggers should be required to stamp "INBRED" on their license plates.
 
2014-02-28 02:08:33 PM

Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?


Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.
 
2014-02-28 02:08:53 PM
Even putting aside the very real problem that "sex offender" can be a disturbingly broad category (e.g., an 18 year old has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend); as a general rule, I don't think that it's a good idea to provide the public with an excuse for vigilantism, even against those who might otherwise deserve it.
 
2014-02-28 02:09:01 PM

Bullseyed: Infernalist: Tennessee Teabagger and sometimes Birther wants all the state's sex offenders to have the words SEX OFFENDER stamped in red on their license plates. Hey, at least he's not going after the gays

Yet.

Persecution always works best at first because they never go after large groups or sympathetic groups.  It's always the maligned and distrusted groups that persecution fixates on first.

And when you protest against that persecution, you get maligned in turn, called sympathizer and abettor or closet member of that targeted group.  So people don't stand up for the persecuted out of fear.

It's easy to yell 'godwin' at my post, but this is a sincere case of similar methods and thinking to that group from the 30s and 40s.

Like the WBC and owners of "assault weapons" right?


No, not really.
 
2014-02-28 02:10:42 PM
How does probable cause work viz. traffic stops?

Would this designation on a driver's license provide fodder?
 
2014-02-28 02:11:58 PM
and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!
 
2014-02-28 02:12:20 PM

factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.


Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.
 
2014-02-28 02:12:55 PM
I guess the idea is that if you see a sex offender driving in front of you, there's a chance he'll jump out and rape you in the middle of traffic, or even molest your car autophile style.

i.dailymail.co.uk

Next idea on his agenda will probably involve literally branding gays and illegals on the forehead, and bringing back:

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-28 02:13:54 PM
www.nytmare.org
 
2014-02-28 02:15:35 PM

Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Disagree.  And all too often, bigots like to smear the gay community as being pedophiles who have to 'convert' children to maintain their numbers.
 
2014-02-28 02:16:08 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Can get these plates in different colors, or with zany fonts?


It will only be available in comic sans.
 
2014-02-28 02:16:22 PM

FlashHarry: Tennessee Teabagger? i loved that cartoon as a kid!



what was his catchphrase?  "Tennessee Teabagger will not fail?"
 
2014-02-28 02:17:24 PM

factoryconnection: Mugato: For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great

The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior.

But honestly, this license plate thing?  There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


Some states do the same thing with people convicted of DUI.   Because it would be hurting their self esteem and their "rights?" right?

But I guess it's okay for New Jersey to require people under 21 to have a nice red sticker on their bumper that is supposed to alert the cops that the driver is under 21 and that they cannot have more than 1 other person in the car.  But instead it's a large red bulls eye for a rapist or sex offender.
 
2014-02-28 02:21:10 PM
cp found on this guys pc in 3....2.......
 
2014-02-28 02:22:22 PM

shanrick: FlashHarry: Tennessee Teabagger? i loved that cartoon as a kid!

Him and his portly sidekick. Good times.


Tennesee Teabagger will not fail
 
2014-02-28 02:24:10 PM

apoptotic: He wants the lettering on the licenses, not the plates. And "...added that the law could also come in handy at "malls, grocery stores, retail outlets-all kinds of places where children are."

So he's saying that anyone that goes anywhere that there might be children present should be prepared to show ID.

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.

Someone asked him that (although said scarlet letters) and according to TFA he replied "Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


FTA: "
At a meeting on Wednesday, Tennessee House transportation committee chair Rep. Vince Dean pushed back against the bill. "Is it your intention to cause that person embarrassment if they, say, go to buy a pack of cigarettes or a pack of Copenhagen?" he asked, adding: "It brings to mind that, maybe, a scarlet letter put on his breast might work as well."

"Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


Hell, why not bring out the stockades at this point? Maybe a symbol they can sew onto their clothes? Maybe a star of some type?
 
2014-02-28 02:24:44 PM

wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!


Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me
 
2014-02-28 02:25:16 PM
Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.
But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.



Please feel free to continue to parrot pop psychology catch phrases, Dr Freud.
 
2014-02-28 02:25:44 PM
He's a Teabagger.   He'll change his mind when he's caught jacking off guys in a public restroom.
 
2014-02-28 02:28:34 PM
img.fark.net

ACLU to the rescue!
 
2014-02-28 02:29:30 PM

VladTheEmailer: He's a Teabagger.   He'll change his mind when he's caught jacking off guys in a public restroom.


You mean if it comes out he's gay?

What, you think that if you're exposed as being homosexual you shouldn't propose laws to protect children?

I don't understand.
 
2014-02-28 02:29:54 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-28 02:30:38 PM

Infernalist: Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Disagree.  And all too often, bigots like to smear the gay community as being pedophiles who have to 'convert' children to maintain their numbers.


Of course being gay doesn't have anything to do with being a pedophile but pretending that there aren't gay pedophiles and straight pedophiles just comes off as defensive.
 
2014-02-28 02:35:38 PM

smoky2010: Musikslayer: smoky2010: I wish CT would do this with the people with multiple DUI's, and are still allowed to drive. Obviously they would need to use a DUI stamp, not one that says sex offender.

\My neighbor has 5 (yes 5) DUI convictions, he still has a valid drivers license in CT

In Ohio, a repeat DUI offender gets a yellow licence plate. They're purdy.

I'll have to keep an eye out for those!


It's yellow with red lettering. I used to point those out like you do Volkswagens.

/punch drunk, no punch backs!
 
2014-02-28 02:36:02 PM

Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me


Since Tennessee Teabagger said "that (marking their clothes) would be fine", I suspect one of us needs our sarcasm meter calibrated. Either mine registered a false positive on wantingout's post or yours isn't working.
 
2014-02-28 02:36:07 PM

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.


Or we could just make them where a big red letter A on all their clothes.  Or really, it's the 21st century, how about just tattooing it onto their foreheads?
 
2014-02-28 02:36:25 PM

Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?


Liberals man. They have to constantly redefine words to meet their agenda.
 
2014-02-28 02:37:31 PM
Instead, the tag should be soldered into the sex offenders' genital areas.
 
2014-02-28 02:38:40 PM

Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Defining homosexuality as simply "putting tab a in hole a" regardless of the circumstances is offensive.  Homosexuality is not defined solely by anal sex.  Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.  There is no question that SOME pedophiles may also be homosexual, but to say that all men who rape underage male children are gay is ridiculous.
 
2014-02-28 02:39:11 PM

Mugato: Infernalist: Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.


Disagree.  And all too often, bigots like to smear the gay community as being pedophiles who have to 'convert' children to maintain their numbers.

Of course being gay doesn't have anything to do with being a pedophile but pretending that there aren't gay pedophiles and straight pedophiles just comes off as defensive.


Well, of course there are, but when you have groups that are working 'hard' to link the two in the minds of the public, you have to be careful to insist upon people being clear.

Much like just because some Jewish men are bankers, it doesn't make it okay to perpetuate the myth of all Jewish men being Bankers and financiers.
 
2014-02-28 02:39:32 PM

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!


That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]


oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.
 
2014-02-28 02:40:27 PM

Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

I don't know. Ask the happily married man with a wife and three kids why he likes to fark little boys.


Bisexual means you have two sexualities. It isn't its own sexuality. Someone who likes to fark men and women (or boys and girls) is both hetero and homo.
 
2014-02-28 02:42:51 PM

Infernalist: Much like just because some Jewish men are bankers, it doesn't make it okay to perpetuate the myth of all Jewish men being Bankers and financiers.


No, I work in the movie biz, most of them run Hollywood, :p
 
2014-02-28 02:44:12 PM

factoryconnection: Mugato: *edidt*The on-line registry is a lot more fair than the mere stamp "sex offender," at least in South Carolina which I would assume is 5-10 years behind the rest of the country.  They describe the age of offense, age of victim, the crime, severity, and has designations for violence and predatory behavior.

But honestly, this license plate thing?  There's notifying the public and there's flaunting it.


ATFA,
There IS a marking on the license plate about this...just not a great big sign saying
HELLO, I AM A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER. PLEASE HELP MAKE MY LIFE A LIVING HELL BECAUSE JESUS. HAVE A NICE DAY!
This information is readily available in other areas as well...and all without having to go down I forget how many flights of steps, avoid the tiger and move the filing cabinet.

While sex offenses (real ones, where people get hurt, not just taking a leak in an inappropriate venue)are not funny, it's hard enough for the person if they are honestly trying to stay on track. They don't need an asshole like this, trumpeting "Think Of The Children!" when he means "Think of the the backs and necks of these idiots I can use as ladder rungs on my way up!"

The fact that the R.S.O.s have kids, whom they are trying to raise is such a way that the abusive cycle is broken means nothing...or the trouble this would cause for the kids as well as the "lost-his/her-membership-to-the-human-race' parent. Apparently, those aren't 'real' children.

"Sin starts when people start treatin' other people as things."
Granny Weatherwax
Sir Terry Pratchett
 
2014-02-28 02:45:06 PM

Mugato: Infernalist: Much like just because some Jewish men are bankers, it doesn't make it okay to perpetuate the myth of all Jewish men being Bankers and financiers.

No, I work in the movie biz, most of them run Hollywood, :p


rofl.  Don't play around, man, people 'round these parts are likely to take you seriously.
 
2014-02-28 02:45:46 PM

oldweasel: apoptotic: He wants the lettering on the licenses, not the plates. And "...added that the law could also come in handy at "malls, grocery stores, retail outlets-all kinds of places where children are."

So he's saying that anyone that goes anywhere that there might be children present should be prepared to show ID.

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.

Someone asked him that (although said scarlet letters) and according to TFA he replied "Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."

FTA: "
At a meeting on Wednesday, Tennessee House transportation committee chair Rep. Vince Dean pushed back against the bill. "Is it your intention to cause that person embarrassment if they, say, go to buy a pack of cigarettes or a pack of Copenhagen?" he asked, adding: "It brings to mind that, maybe, a scarlet letter put on his breast might work as well."

"Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


Hell, why not bring out the stockades at this point? Maybe a symbol they can sew onto their clothes? Maybe a star of some type?


You're still saying that some level of child rape is "ok" if there is a set amount of punishment for it.
 
2014-02-28 02:47:43 PM

teenytinycornteeth: Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.

Defining homosexuality as simply "putting tab a in hole a" regardless of the circumstances is offensive.  Homosexuality is not defined solely by anal sex.  Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.  There is no question that SOME pedophiles may also be homosexual, but to say that all men who rape underage male children are gay is ridiculous.


Uh oh, someone doesn't know what sexuality is.
 
2014-02-28 02:49:53 PM
Bullseyed:

You're still saying that some level of child rape is "ok" if there is a set amount of punishment for it.

Now you're being ridiculous.  Of course there is no amount of child rape that it's ok.  Just as there is no level of drunk driving that's ok.  There's no amount of armed robbery that's ok.  If having a set amount of punishment means you're accepting of the crime, then everyone would be in prison for every crime for THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.
 
2014-02-28 02:50:37 PM

doubled99: Please feel free to continue to parrot pop psychology catch phrases, Dr Freud.


In your mind is there a brand of psychology other than "pop?"  I mean, you have such nuanced opinions on most things, I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
 
2014-02-28 02:51:23 PM

Bullseyed: teenytinycornteeth: Oldiron_79: factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.

Im not saying being gay contributes to them being a pedo, but if they are farking boys they are by definition GAY. Male on male=gay regardless of age.

Defining homosexuality as simply "putting tab a in hole a" regardless of the circumstances is offensive.  Homosexuality is not defined solely by anal sex.  Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.  There is no question that SOME pedophiles may also be homosexual, but to say that all men who rape underage male children are gay is ridiculous.

Uh oh, someone doesn't know what sexuality is.


Uh oh, someone doesn't know what rape is.
 
2014-02-28 02:53:30 PM

Infernalist: Mugato: Infernalist: Much like just because some Jewish men are bankers, it doesn't make it okay to perpetuate the myth of all Jewish men being Bankers and financiers.

No, I work in the movie biz, most of them run Hollywood, :p

rofl.  Don't play around, man, people 'round these parts are likely to take you seriously.


"These parts" meaning Fark? Fark them. I get my balls busted on a daily basis by my Chosen One friends reminding me how they all own my ass.
 
2014-02-28 02:55:51 PM

FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.


Wait a minute, you are saying that all gays are not sex offenders. Gonna need a link for that, I'm pretty sure you are mistaken.
 
2014-02-28 02:58:08 PM
That jerk should be forced to have "Stupid Teabagger" printed in red on HIS license plate.
 
2014-02-28 02:58:22 PM

Agent Nick Fury: VladTheEmailer: He's a Teabagger.   He'll change his mind when he's caught jacking off guys in a public restroom.

You mean if it comes out he's gay?

What, you think that if you're exposed as being homosexual you shouldn't propose laws to protect children?

I don't understand.


No...just that some times those that appear  to be vehemently against something can have a tendency to  be covering something up.
That seems especially true with sexual predilections.

I have nothing against with laws protecting children against those that wish to harm them.  But that's not what this is about.   Sex offences are a whole spectrum of offences.   Not just those against children.
Someone could  murder a child and drive around schools with indication on their license plates, but someone who pees on a bush in a public park can be potentially stigmatized for the rest of their lives.
 
2014-02-28 02:59:14 PM

Egoy3k: Mugato:now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great

That's the problem with these sorts of laws, fighting them is political suicide.   None of the sober thought required for good governance actually gets done because nobody wants to see attack ads about how they voted to support pedophiles.


This. Same reason laws ratchet up against DUI or drug users. Nobody wanted to be tarred as a supporter just for saying that current penalties are enough or that the new proposed penalties might go too far or be counter productive.
 
2014-02-28 03:11:40 PM
"So you take a guy who's committed a crime. Now you put him on a registry that may keep him from getting a job, or making friends, generally just totally isolating him for the rest of his life and giving him lots of free time. Do you think that makes him less likely to commit another crime?" - Cracked.com
 
2014-02-28 03:14:55 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Even putting aside the very real problem that "sex offender" can be a disturbingly broad category (e.g., an 18 year old has sex with his 17 year old girlfriend); as a general rule, I don't think that it's a good idea to provide the public with an excuse for vigilantism, even against those who might otherwise deserve it.


This is a concern. If we want to punish someone we should have the balls to do it rather than a wink and an appeal to a lynch mob. How many offenders will park their molestermobile in a school zone, and be caught? How many women will come out drunk from a bar and not get in the car of a paroled rapist when she sees the plate? Somehow I think very few. Keep 'em in jail if they are still so dangerous.
 
2014-02-28 03:15:33 PM

blindio: Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!

That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]

oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.


You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?
 
2014-02-28 03:20:15 PM

VladTheEmailer: Agent Nick Fury: VladTheEmailer: He's a Teabagger.   He'll change his mind when he's caught jacking off guys in a public restroom.

You mean if it comes out he's gay?

What, you think that if you're exposed as being homosexual you shouldn't propose laws to protect children?

I don't understand.

No...just that some times those that appear  to be vehemently against something can have a tendency to  be covering something up.
That seems especially true with sexual predilections.

I have nothing against with laws protecting children against those that wish to harm them.  But that's not what this is about.   Sex offences are a whole spectrum of offences.   Not just those against children.
Someone could  murder a child and drive around schools with indication on their license plates, but someone who pees on a bush in a public park can be potentially stigmatized for the rest of their lives.


Fair enough, I agree the term "sex offender" could be abused - most pedophiles have multiple charges and convictions so it should only be used in cases where it is determined that the person constitutes a danger to the general community.

But I still don't understand the jacking of men off in public restrooms - is this rampant in the homosexual community?
 
2014-02-28 03:20:52 PM

Lee451: blindio: Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!

That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]

oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.

You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?


This is the sort of thing that fuels the fear of speaking out against persecution of minorities.  When you protest against the persecution, you get accused of sympathizing with a reviled group.  This is dissent is stifled, by making people afraid of being counted among the reviled.
 
2014-02-28 03:28:20 PM
Agent Nick Fury: VladTheEmailer: Agent Nick Fury: VladTheEmailer: He's a Teabagger.   He'll change his mind when he's caught jacking off guys in a public restroom.

You mean if it comes out he's gay?

What, you think that if you're exposed as being homosexual you shouldn't propose laws to protect children?

I don't understand.

No...just that some times those that appear  to be vehemently against something can have a tendency to  be covering something up.
That seems especially true with sexual predilections.

I have nothing against with laws protecting children against those that wish to harm them.  But that's not what this is about.   Sex offences are a whole spectrum of offences.   Not just those against children.
Someone could  murder a child and drive around schools with indication on their license plates, but someone who pees on a bush in a public park can be potentially stigmatized for the rest of their lives.

Fair enough, I agree the term "sex offender" could be abused - most pedophiles have multiple charges and convictions so it should only be used in cases where it is determined that the person constitutes a danger to the general community.


The term sex offender  is abused currently.  A chick flashing her tits in public should not be placed in the same category as a habitual child abuser.   And if a person constitutes a danger to the general community then they should still be incarcerated not in a position to be driving around schools with or without identifying plates.


But I still don't understand the jacking of men off in public restrooms - is this rampant in the homosexual community?

Honestly I have no idea.  It definitely seems to be a thing and hits the headlines from time to time... (George Michael, for example).
 
2014-02-28 03:28:34 PM

Agent Nick Fury: But I still don't understand the jacking of men off in public restrooms - is this rampant in the homosexual community?


Well if you call last Tuesday "rampant" I .....what ? No! Erase! Erase!
 
2014-02-28 03:40:44 PM
Here is the sample license:
img.fark.net

I feel so sorry for the guy who posed for that stock photograph.

And why did they choose that picture?  My God, he looks so damn happy to be a sex offender.  "I rape little girls!  Wooohoooo!"

On a serious note, I am kinda confused about the practicality of this.  By an overwhelming margin, Grinny McGroper up there is more likely to diddle his own kids or the kids of a blood relative than a stranger's kid.  So unless he plans to whip this bad boy out at Thanksgiving dinner, run victory laps around the dining room, holding this thing aloft and screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!  I want to fondle the toddlers!", it doens't really serve a useful purpose.  Of course, considering his gleeful expression, he just might...
 
2014-02-28 03:50:46 PM

Lee451: blindio: Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!

That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]

oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.

You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?


So, are you unable to read, or do you just choose not to?  So do you have anything to bring to the conversation other than a pathetic straw man argument?
 
2014-02-28 03:52:39 PM

phalamir: On a serious note, I am kinda confused about the practicality of this.


It's an excuse to ID anyone anytime in any public place.
 
2014-02-28 03:54:26 PM
Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.

Your mistake is throwing a gigantic blanket explanation over ALL rapes.
 
2014-02-28 03:54:59 PM

phalamir: Here is the sample license:
[img.fark.net image 850x478]

I feel so sorry for the guy who posed for that stock photograph.

And why did they choose that picture?  My God, he looks so damn happy to be a sex offender.  "I rape little girls!  Wooohoooo!"

On a serious note, I am kinda confused about the practicality of this.  By an overwhelming margin, Grinny McGroper up there is more likely to diddle his own kids or the kids of a blood relative than a stranger's kid.  So unless he plans to whip this bad boy out at Thanksgiving dinner, run victory laps around the dining room, holding this thing aloft and screaming "Yes! Yes! Yes!  I want to fondle the toddlers!", it doens't really serve a useful purpose.  Of course, considering his gleeful expression, he just might...


The entire purpose is to discourage registered sex offenders from living in Tennessee, nothing more.  They want the SO to be shamed into moving to a state that doesn't have those markings.
 
2014-02-28 03:58:59 PM
They'd all just end up following each other and end up somewhere in a writhing heap.
 
2014-02-28 04:04:03 PM
how about "NO FREE CANDY INSIDE" on the side of the vehicle instead?
 
2014-02-28 04:10:22 PM

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!


And they have the right to say what they want and the right to exist as an organization. They don't have the right to molest children. But thanks for not understanding the difference between speech and action.
 
2014-02-28 04:13:44 PM

Lee451: You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?


It's not illegal or immoral to a pedophile. It is illegal and immoral to be a child molester.

This may come as a surprise to you, bit not all pedophiles molest children. And, more importantly, not all child molesters and pedophiles.
 
2014-02-28 04:18:49 PM

smoky2010: RKade: the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?

farkin' a

You sound like a sex offender...


I did a year about a decade ago over a misunderstanding at a college party. Always check ID. Also, some women lie about their age because they hate men and want to take us down... or maybe that's just in California.
 
2014-02-28 04:21:37 PM

Lee451: blindio: Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!

That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]

oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.

You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?


You sound full of hate. Are you a conservative Christian?
 
2014-02-28 04:29:10 PM

cubic_spleen: Lee451: blindio: Lee451: [img.fark.net image 350x261]

ACLU to the rescue!

That would be a lot more simple if the only people ever labeled as sex offenders were adults who raped small children, like your idiotic cartoon suggests.  Of course, that's not the case.   http://www.bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw   There are plenty of cases well beyond but including public urination where a permanent or long term label of sex offender make no sense other than to punish someone indefinitely over something for which they have already served their time.  If you want to make sex offender a complete scarlet letter, than refine it down to the people who are actually dangerous, or don't let them out of prison.

Lee451: [img.fark.net image 640x593]

oh, nevermind, you're an idiot.

You sound like a pedophile apologist. Do you belong to the ACLU?

You sound full of hate. Are you a conservative Christian?


Sad comment on our society when pedophiles have more rights than Christians.  Thanks a lot Mr. Liberal Simpleton.
 
2014-02-28 05:03:06 PM
I assume "sex offender" will be stamped only on the plates of cars belonging to actual sex
offenders.  Otherwise, it sounds like Tennessee wants to put this on every license plate in
the state.  (It couldn't sound any sillier than "live free or die" - sorry, New Hampshire.)
 
2014-02-28 05:04:12 PM

karnal: Sad comment on our society when pedophiles have more rights than Christians.


Yeah, it'd suck if we ever get to that point.  Good thing we're a long way from it...
 
2014-02-28 05:04:25 PM

cubic_spleen: You sound full of hate. Are you a conservative Christian?


christ's message was one of hate. it's true.
 
2014-02-28 05:09:23 PM
Since it's clear that nobody agrees a prison sentence is sufficient reparation for crimes, or that anyone could possibly reform in jail (with American prisons, probably not), let's also force ex-cons to display all of their convictions on their vehicles, clothing and homes.  If a man was guilty of fraud, assault, murder, burglary or any other crime it should be shown to every one so we can enjoy vigilante mobs, lynch gangs and a state of distrust between everyone.  That would be much better.
 
2014-02-28 05:11:37 PM

Pattuq: Since it's clear that nobody agrees a prison sentence is sufficient reparation for crimes, or that anyone could possibly reform in jail (with American prisons, probably not), let's also force ex-cons to display all of their convictions on their vehicles, clothing and homes.  If a man was guilty of fraud, assault, murder, burglary or any other crime it should be shown to every one so we can enjoy vigilante mobs, lynch gangs and a state of distrust between everyone.  That would be much better.


How about all convicts get a QR code tattooed on them, and you could use it to look up their arrest record?
 
2014-02-28 05:13:58 PM
Want to end the idea real fast? Introduce a similar bill requiring anyone convicted of more than one DUI to have DRUNK on their license tag.
 
kgf
2014-02-28 05:14:04 PM
This is great!  Now we'll be able to tell who the Tea Party members are!
 
2014-02-28 05:37:55 PM

Pattuq: Since it's clear that nobody agrees a prison sentence is sufficient reparation for crimes, or that anyone could possibly reform in jail .


A person who is sexually attracted to a child can be taught that this is abnormal behavior and, once taught this, can be released and function as a normal person.

You're saying that sexual attraction can be eradicated with the proper "education"

I really wish you teabaggers would stay on the politics tab already!
 
2014-02-28 05:50:35 PM
I for one support this, blah blah blah..............

Just think of all the wonderful FARKY headlines we shall have to choose from.

mostly car crashes or road rage incidents i imagine.
 
2014-02-28 05:57:04 PM
How about instead of their license plates they instead pin a badge to their clothes.  And instead of red lets use yellow and make it a star, because this has never turned out badly before.
 
2014-02-28 07:06:49 PM
He's probably just pissed off that he hasn't been able to get any underage boys to sleep with him since he passed 45.
 
2014-02-28 07:12:16 PM

Mugato: You can't go wrong pandering to the



....crowd.

For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


Unfortunately for politicians too, if you try to talk some common sense into the system, people scream that you support child rape.

What I don't support is labeling a wide range of minor and moderate offenders the same as the depraved perverts who rape toddlers.

I also don't understand the fixation on sex crimes. Murder a kid and you won't end up on a murder offenders list, won't have to notify everyone in your neighborhood and won't have restrictions on where you can live after being releases. It seems to me like murder and violence should be punished more harshly than sex.
 
2014-02-28 07:18:46 PM

Oldiron_79: Ed Grubermann: Oldiron_79: FirstNationalBastard: He probably thinks it will cover the gays, because he probably thinks all gays are sex offenders.

Not all gay men want to fark little boys, but all men that want to fark little boys are gay.

This has been shown to not be true.

How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?


They could be bi, not that it really matters. If someone is interested in sex with someone of their own gender, regardless of sge, they are gay or bi. They might also be a pedo but that's separate.
 
2014-02-28 07:21:38 PM

Ed Grubermann: the_rev: Here's an idea:

Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever, how about we leave them the fcuck alone?

How dare you bring reason into this thread? How dare you, sir?


It's mostly politicians trying to show they're "tough on" this or that. It's also a way to get around sentencing limits and punish someone indefinitely even if they can't be locked up indefinitely. It encourages that indirectly too since someone who has that scarlet letter on their record will have a hell of a time ever landing a job that pays better than crime.
 
2014-02-28 07:24:36 PM

Bullseyed: So liberals are now pro-child-rape? I don't get it.

"Once someone has done his or her time for a crime, repaid their debt to society, whatever "

So you're insinuating that there is an appropriate length of punishment for raping children? Personally I'd put that at "life" but hey to each their own.


Well if life is appropriate, then keep them locked up for life, or execute them. Don't beat aroun the bush and let them out while continuing to punish them. Also "raping a child" should be just that, not consensual sex with someone a few years/months/days younger.
 
2014-02-28 07:28:29 PM

doubled99: Your mistake is qualifying the rape of a child as a sexual act, when in truth it's an act of violence, rage and an exertion of power over someone.

Your mistake is throwing a gigantic blanket explanation over ALL rapes.


But saying that all men who rape little boys are gay isn't a gigantic blanket?  Please.
 
2014-02-28 07:32:10 PM

factoryconnection: Oldiron_79: How is farking another male NOT gay? Is there some new definition I am not aware of?

Does it actually matter whether a pedophile is having sex with little girls or little boys?  The physical but moreover psychological injuries to either are just as severe.

But to answer your question: pedophilia is a crime about exerting power and control, just like rape.  Being gay or straight has nothing to do with it, because sexual orientation isn't a justification for crime.


I don't think pedophilia is about control, I think it's a matter of someone being seriously miswired in the head. There are countless ways to exert control that don't involve anything sexual. Yes, some people are probably aroused by having control, but there has to be something else in play with the average pedo. Control also wouldn't explain those who get busted with kiddie porn. Unless they created the porn, they weren't controlling anyone.

farked in the head, clearly, but control? I just don't buy it. Without studying the specific case, it's not possible to identify the motivation.
 
2014-02-28 07:36:05 PM
Just put Catholic Priest on the license, it's the same thing.
 
2014-02-28 07:36:39 PM

Bullseyed: oldweasel: apoptotic: He wants the lettering on the licenses, not the plates. And "...added that the law could also come in handy at "malls, grocery stores, retail outlets-all kinds of places where children are."

So he's saying that anyone that goes anywhere that there might be children present should be prepared to show ID.

Osato: Why not make them wear pink triangle badges instead? I mean, if you've got to persecute people based on an arbitrary distinction, you might as well go all the way and draw directly from the source of your inspiration.

Someone asked him that (although said scarlet letters) and according to TFA he replied "Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."

FTA: "
At a meeting on Wednesday, Tennessee House transportation committee chair Rep. Vince Dean pushed back against the bill. "Is it your intention to cause that person embarrassment if they, say, go to buy a pack of cigarettes or a pack of Copenhagen?" he asked, adding: "It brings to mind that, maybe, a scarlet letter put on his breast might work as well."

"Well, if you thought that was necessary," Hill replied, "that would be fine."


Hell, why not bring out the stockades at this point? Maybe a symbol they can sew onto their clothes? Maybe a star of some type?

You're still saying that some level of child rape is "ok" if there is a set amount of punishment for it.


How the hell is he saying that? Someone can commit murder and eventually be released after try serve their time, at which point they can return to society having paid their dues.

Does that mean that some amount of murder is "ok"?
 
2014-02-28 08:35:52 PM
Since I don't have a car, can I get it printed on my bus pass instead?
 
2014-02-28 09:10:08 PM

Mugato: You can't go wrong pandering to the

[img.fark.net image 154x199]

....crowd.

For one thing, until they can specify what the offense was, the "sex offender" designation is meaningless. Did the guy rape a kid or was he caught behind the Viper Room taking a piss? And if these people did their time, they're supposed to move on with their lives or else keep them in prison. And why this type of offense only? Why not a Scarlet Letter on murderers or drug dealers? This is shameless pandering.

/now I sound like a sex offender supporter, great


I had a nightmare that I was stuck in traffic and really had to go, and ended up labeled a sex offender for peeing on the side of the road.  I had to explain to my employer that pretty-please could I still work here, literally I just had to pee.

There's levels of sex offense, and urinating in public doesn't belong on the list.  It isn't a sexual act.  Now, if someone finds that hot and keeps doing it in front of elementary schools....
 
2014-02-28 09:28:37 PM

Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me


Haven't finished the rest of the comments yet so someone may have beaten me to it but...I'm betting this is a reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's, The Scarlet Letter.  That is a MUCH more obvious comparison.  Some of us older Farkers who had honors English got the reference, you younger or less tortured American literature students won't.  This is a learning moment for you, don't jump to conclusions...
 
2014-02-28 09:36:43 PM
Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

"Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me"


>>Sounds like someone has holocaust obsession. That was actually a reference to "The Scarlet Letter'. Keep doing your job tho! :thumbsup:
 
2014-02-28 10:11:23 PM

Electrify: Since I don't have a car, can I get it printed on my bus pass instead?


Mine's on the back of my ice cream truck.
 
2014-02-28 10:56:51 PM
al's hat:

Haven't finished the rest of the comments yet so someone may have beaten me to it but...I'm betting this is a reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's, The Scarlet Letter.  That is a MUCH more obvious comparison.  Some of us older Farkers who had honors English got the reference, you younger or less tortured American literature students won't.  This is a learning moment for you, don't jump to conclusions...

wantingout:


>>Sounds like someone has holocaust obsession. That was actually a reference to "The Scarlet Letter'. Keep doing your job tho! :thumbsup:

Yes, of course, don't read the rest of the comments before opening your piehole.

You will get to the part where Hester Prynne had a pink Star of David sewn onto her dress.

Fark still amazes me.
 
2014-02-28 11:02:03 PM
And let's equate a woman in the 17th century being accused with adultery with a person who rapes children because, intellectually, we discuss these things at Ivy League colleges and have decided this equation is an intellectual argument.

Good luck when the Bastille is stormed.
 
2014-02-28 11:21:05 PM
Don't really see any problem with this honestly.

Once you're over 18, you know damned well what's ok and not ok. No sympathy for those who should have been eaten by predators if not for the kindness of civilization.
 
2014-02-28 11:47:57 PM

Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

Haven't finished the rest of the comments yet so someone may have beaten me to it but...I'm betting this is a reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's, The Scarlet Letter.  That is a MUCH more obvious comparison.  Some of us older Farkers who had honors English got the reference, you younger or less tortured American literature students won't.  This is a learning moment for you, don't jump to conclusions...

wantingout:


>>Sounds like someone has holocaust obsession. That was actually a reference to "The Scarlet Letter'. Keep doing your job tho! :thumbsup:

Yes, of course, don't read the rest of the comments before opening your piehole.

You will get to the part where Hester Prynne had a pink Star of David sewn onto her dress.

Fark still amazes me.


Ooh!  Did you Wikipedia The Scarlet Letter?  Is this comment supposed to excuse the fact that you completely missed the reference and went all Godwin?  Considering that I wasn't the only one who caught it perhaps you're the one who is off the mark...

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...
 
2014-03-01 12:12:52 AM
My opinion--since sex offenders have a high recidivism rate, you might as well KEEP them in jail.  Then you know they won't be after your kids.

Ohio already has what I call drunk-driver plates.  What license plate would you have if you've been convicted of DUI *and* child molestation?
 
2014-03-01 12:46:12 AM
Treating people who got in trouble for consensual sex or for public urination like the worst scum on earth seems a tad strange considering all it ends up doing is making those people into outcasts who can no longer contribute to society in any meaningful way.
 
2014-03-01 01:53:45 AM

al's hat: Agent Nick Fury: wantingout: and they should have to have a big red 'SO' stitched on all of their clothes!

Some idiot billionaire compares the treatment of the rich to Kristallnacht and Fark soils itself but it's perfectly fine to compare child rapists with Holocaust victims.

Fark amazes me

Haven't finished the rest of the comments yet so someone may have beaten me to it but...I'm betting this is a reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's, The Scarlet Letter.  That is a MUCH more obvious comparison.  Some of us older Farkers who had honors English got the reference, you younger or less tortured American literature students won't.  This is a learning moment for you, don't jump to conclusions...


I clearly remember that horrid novel, along with a number of other depressing books we had to read. I'm actually amazed anyone reads for pleasure after some of the stuff we were forced to slog through. Thankfully I'd already developed my reading habit long before that.
 
2014-03-01 02:02:05 AM

Miss Alexandra: My opinion--since sex offenders have a high recidivism rate, you might as well KEEP them in jail.  Then you know they won't be after your kids.

Ohio already has what I call drunk-driver plates.  What license plate would you have if you've been convicted of DUI *and* child molestation?


Well except that they don't. I'm not sure where this rumor came from, but their rates are comparable with many other crimes.

Now certain *kinds* of sex offenders, perhaps so, but can we agree that there is a rather substantial difference between an 18 yo who sleeps with a 17 or even 15 yo and a 50 yo who molests a 3 year old? Both of these are "sex offenders" which is why IMO the whole sex offender registry is next to useless.
 
2014-03-01 02:32:21 AM

Miss Alexandra: My opinion--since sex offenders have a high recidivism rate, you might as well KEEP them in jail.  Then you know they won't be after your kids.

Ohio already has what I call drunk-driver plates.  What license plate would you have if you've been convicted of DUI *and* child molestation?


Except they don't. Common misconception. The rate ranges from sometimes as low as 7% to as high as 35% depending on the study.

Here's one and the rates were between 14% and 35% Once a Sex Offender, Always a Sex Offender? Maybe not.

Non-violent crime like burglary, theft, and so on have a much higher rate of recidivism.

According to the BOJ statistics rapists and murders had the lowest rates of recidivism.
 
2014-03-01 03:59:04 AM
A British comedian had a good point: Their target audience normally cannot read.

"Mister. . .what does that say on your license plate?"

"Free candy.  Now get inside the car."
 
2014-03-01 11:07:35 AM
al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...


Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.
 
2014-03-01 12:56:29 PM

Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.


I didn't make the comparison, I only pointed out that you missed the reference...and I wasn't the only one.  Being very close to my age and a member of Mensa I would think that you would be aware that The Scarlet Letter was unfortunately assigned reading in Many high school English classes in the late 70's and early 80's.  It's okay though, missing the reference wasn't like failing a test or something.
 
2014-03-01 01:04:55 PM

al's hat: Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.

I didn't make the comparison, I only pointed out that you missed the reference...and I wasn't the only one.  Being very close to my age and a member of Mensa I would think that you would be aware that The Scarlet Letter was unfortunately assigned reading in Many high school English classes in the late 70's and early 80's.  It's okay though, missing the reference wasn't like failing a test or something.


Well Al, you were kind of late to the party when people were saying we needed to round these people up and sew stars on their shirts.

Then you brought up that you had Honors English (which is great, I'm sure Mom was proud) and that it was somehow a learning experience for me.

So what the hell, let's say I missed the reference and you're correct.

Do you think a child rapist having a drivers license that indicates he rapes children is the same as having a woman who committed adultery in a novel a valid comparison?

Sorry you didn't pass the test - maybe try again in a few years.
 
2014-03-01 01:29:08 PM

Agent Nick Fury: al's hat: Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.

I didn't make the comparison, I only pointed out that you missed the reference...and I wasn't the only one.  Being very close to my age and a member of Mensa I would think that you would be aware that The Scarlet Letter was unfortunately assigned reading in Many high school English classes in the late 70's and early 80's.  It's okay though, missing the reference wasn't like failing a test or something.

Well Al, you were kind of late to the party when people were saying we needed to round these people up and sew stars on their shirts.

Then you brought up that you had Honors English (which is great, I'm sure Mom was proud) and that it was somehow a learning experience for me.

So what the hell, let's say I missed the reference and you're correct.

Do you think a child rapist having a drivers license that indicates he rapes children is the same as having a woman who committed adultery in a novel a valid comparison?

Sorry you didn't pass the test - maybe try again in a few years.


Agent Nick Fury: al's hat: Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.

I didn't make the comparison, I only pointed out that you missed the reference...and I wasn't the only one.  Being very close to my age and a member of Mensa I would think that you would be aware that The Scarlet Letter was unfortunately assigned reading in Many high school English classes in the late 70's and early 80's.  It's okay though, missing the reference wasn't like failing a test or something.

Well Al, you were kind of late to the party when people were saying we needed to round these people up and sew stars on their shirts.

Then you brought up that you had Honors English (which is great, I'm sure Mom was proud) and that it was somehow a learning experience for me.

So what the hell, let's say I missed the reference and you're correct.

Do you think a child rapist having a drivers license that indicates he rapes children is the same as having a woman who committed adultery in a novel a valid comparison?

Sorry you didn't pass the test - maybe try again in a few years.


Maybe you should have expressed your comparison in reply to someone who did actually reference sewing stars on shirts instead of someone who was obviously referring to The Scarlet Letter.  As far as comparing child rapists identified on their drivers license to wearing either a star or a scarlet letter, I think the comparison is ridiculous.  Being Jewish obviously shouldn't be considered a crime, adultery should be a civil matter, and child rapists deserve to go to prison and then lifelong sanctions designed to prevent them from re-offending if they are ever released.
 
2014-03-01 02:01:39 PM

Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.


And yet here we go again. Sex offender is not the same as convicted child rapist. While all convicted child rapists are sex offenders, statistically a minority of sex offenders are child rapists. The term covers a huge range of things.
 
2014-03-01 02:06:04 PM

James10952001: Agent Nick Fury: al's hat:

/Youngins like you amaze me.
//Get off my lawn.
///Slashies come in three and have since before you found the internet...

Yes, you are the literary genius who compared convicted child rapists with a rare, little known literary character Hester Prynne, from a rare literary manuscript called The Scarlet Letter that most people of the world, unless they majored in Rare English Literature at Oxford like you did, would never had caught the reference.

By the way I'm 50 and I'd like to discuss your in-depth knowledge but perhaps Fark isn't the place because I wouldn't want to confuse dumb people like me in case you bring up Death of a Salesman or The Raven.

My name an home email are listed on the Mensa website (Western PA Chapter Member #100268675).

I look forward to hearing from you.

And yet here we go again. Sex offender is not the same as convicted child rapist. While all convicted child rapists are sex offenders, statistically a minority of sex offenders are child rapists. The term covers a huge range of things.


And yet here we go again - someone else who doesn't read the thread but just comments.

I said this law should only apply to those convicted of a sexual assault and deemed a danger to society.

Not public urination, not the eighteen year old sleeping with his seventeen year old girlfriend, that is why I said people who rape children.
 
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