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2014-02-28 12:13:37 PM
"The officer asked to see my bags but I told him that violated my diplomatic immunity,"

"It's just been revoked."

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2014-02-28 01:27:53 PM
So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-28 01:29:15 PM
That might be the first time someone Godwin-ed their entire life.
 
2014-02-28 01:29:44 PM
"Was this wrong? You say I should not do that? Okay, I come back tomorrow."
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2014-02-28 01:31:24 PM
"now look, I'm sorry I yelled at you Nazzzi basterds but I was pretty drunk. Now, if you'll just go talk to your dictator, I'm sure he'll tell you buncha Gestapo biatchez to turn me a loose."
 
2014-02-28 01:32:40 PM
Shampoo!! What kind of place is this? Trying to take away my shampoo rights!!!

Sham......pooo....
 
2014-02-28 01:33:52 PM

JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta


Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.
 
2014-02-28 01:34:58 PM
The ones at the border don't like it when they ask if you if you more than $10,000 and you reply "If I had $10k in cash, do you think I would have driven 18 hours packed in this car with the whole family to get here?", either.

They will search you, your family, and tear your whole car apart.
 
2014-02-28 01:36:46 PM
You don't just say Nazi anything in Germany. They still find it a touchy subject.
 
2014-02-28 01:39:46 PM
"He was released after his details were taken."

How much detail do they need?  Do they measure your "sausage" and stuff like that?
 
2014-02-28 01:43:30 PM
Good for them! Now, we can haz charges against this clown?

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gja [TotalFark]
2014-02-28 01:43:59 PM

mr pity: JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta

Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.


See, you have to understand that Germany is indeed really sensitive about the whole issue of Nazism.
So much so there are specific laws to address just about any possible situation regarding the use, display, publication etc of the symbol and dogma.

To be so patently obnoxious when you are supposed to be somewhat educated (at least one would hope so of an MEP) shows how idiotic he is.
The 'average Joe' German get their ass in jail for breaking those laws, so why should this jackass get a pass?

Assholes, it is clear, come in all shapes, sizes, colors and from all points of the earth.
 
2014-02-28 01:44:25 PM

JayCab: "Was this wrong? You say I should not do that? Okay, I come back tomorrow."


Glory to Cobrastan! Glory to Arstotzka!
 
2014-02-28 01:54:52 PM

gja: mr pity: JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta

Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.

See, you have to understand that Germany is indeed really sensitive about the whole issue of Nazism.
So much so there are specific laws to address just about any possible situation regarding the use, display, publication etc of the symbol and dogma.

To be so patently obnoxious when you are supposed to be somewhat educated (at least one would hope so of an MEP) shows how idiotic he is.
The 'average Joe' German get their ass in jail for breaking those laws, so why should this jackass get a pass?

Assholes, it is clear, come in all shapes, sizes, colors and from all points of the earth.


You hit the nail on the head.

An MEP certainly should know better if an unwashed American such as myself does.
 
2014-02-28 02:08:59 PM
This will probably look bad on his permanent record.

Some others have very cool creative uses of diplomatic immunity from the Wikipedia story of the same name:

During the Second World War, Carl Lutz, the Swiss Vice-Consul in Budapest, extended extraterritoriality to 72 buildings of Budapest in order to save people wanted by the Nazis. According to the historian Xavier Cornut, this is the most extended application of diplomatic immunity ever observed.
 
2014-02-28 02:34:26 PM

mr pity: JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta

Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.


If you think this is bad, you should experience the people who take their grammar seriously.
 
2014-02-28 02:38:48 PM

gja: mr pity: JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta

Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.

See, you have to understand that Germany is indeed really sensitive about the whole issue of Nazism.
So much so there are specific laws to address just about any possible situation regarding the use, display, publication etc of the symbol and dogma.

To be so patently obnoxious when you are supposed to be somewhat educated (at least one would hope so of an MEP) shows how idiotic he is.
The 'average Joe' German get their ass in jail for breaking those laws,



Any reference to nazi-ism or symbols is strictly regulated to education and historic context. Even video games are subject. They don't like the swastikas in games like Wolfenstien.
Or in the original Bionic Commando
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Unlike Japan, who now has a pretty good sense of humor over that whole misunderstanding in China and Korea.
 
2014-02-28 02:45:43 PM
Jacek Protasiewicz, a Polish MEP claimed he had only drunk "two small bottles of wine" on Tuesday evening when he allegedly insulted the German officials.

I've only had two beers, ociffer.
 
2014-02-28 02:54:00 PM
Nazi that coming.
 
2014-02-28 03:01:20 PM

CygnusDarius: You don't just say Nazi anything in Germany. They still find it a touchy subject.


Yes, whatever you do, DON'T MENTION THE WAR!

/may have mentioned it once or twice, but I think I got away with it...
 
2014-02-28 03:37:45 PM
gja
mr pity: JDJoeE:
So was he off in cuffs because of his statements? Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta

Germany has really strict laws about referencing their fascist past. You might say they're Nazis about it.

See, you have to understand that Germany is indeed really sensitive about the whole issue of Nazism.
So much so there are specific laws to address just about any possible situation regarding the use, display, publication etc of the symbol and dogma.

To be so patently obnoxious when you are supposed to be somewhat educated (at least one would hope so of an MEP) shows how idiotic he is.
The 'average Joe' German get their ass in jail for breaking those laws, so why should this jackass get a pass?


That stuff about the German laws is exaggerated and I'm pretty sure those laws weren't the reason the guy got arrested(*).
But Germany also has criminal laws against insulting people.

Now, day-to-day that doesn't matter because it isn't prosecuted unless the victim insists on it.
And who goes to the police and reports "Jon has been calling me names! " ?
And after that, some state attorney would have to be _very_ bored to bring such a kindergarten case to court instead of dropping the case for a lack of public interest in going after the offender.

BUT insulting an officer on duty is kind of a bad idea:
a) if he's a cop, he doesn't have to call someone else to report it or arrest you (I mean, even if you don't have a law against insulting people in the US, what are the chances that officer "cocksucking shiathead" won't decide that you're conducting yourself disorderly or are disturbing the peace or something like it)

b) AFAIK there's a clause that even if the insulted officers don't care about your shiat, their superior officers also have the right to go after you if they don't like that you're insulting their subordinates

c) attorneys are less likely to drop the case because there's a likelihood that they'll find it in the interest of the public and running of the state that people have some respect for officers/officials doing their duty instead of shiatting all over them

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(*)If those anti-Nazi laws were involved, then probably only as a pretext:
"let's teach that insulting, drunken, obnoxious asshole a lesson and arrest him for promoting Nazism in public.
Yeah, it won't stick because the 'Sieg Heil' screams were just to insult us, but he can wait for the judge and lawyers to make it official that the intent behind it was a sarcastic insult and not a Nazi thing."
 
2014-02-28 03:51:42 PM

CygnusDarius: You don't just say Nazi anything in Germany. They still find it a touchy subject.


It isn't that touchy at all... you just don't glorify the Nazis or say anything nice about them.  If you have real questions about the war, and you're at one of the museums, memorials, or other historic sites, guides are ok with talking about it. In the course of daily conversation though, it is a source of pretty deem shame for them (generally speaking), and it will be an extraordinarily awkward and uncomfortable conversation, if nothing else.  Some of the older Germans though, if they are ok with talking about it, can offer an incredible insight as to what it was like to be caught in Germany in that period... one of my coworkers lived in Austria in that period and tells stories about how children used to smuggle bread and butter to smaller work camps (not the big concentration camps, but the Germans would use slave labor to build all kinds of things), about how the Nazis didn't just make them do hard labor, but would make them sing while they did it. She still talks about how some Nazis were offended by the religious beliefs of others... some were Christian, but there were plenty of Nazis who considered Christianity to be a Jewish plot to weaken Aryans. You get nuances of things that history books don't really talk about when you actually talk to the people who were there.

If you listen, and don't judge... you can learn a lot.
 
2014-02-28 04:09:53 PM
Germany proves it's drive for liberty by following nazi doctrine on speech they disagree with.
 
2014-02-28 04:50:54 PM
MythDragon
Any reference to nazi-ism or symbols is strictly regulated to education and historic context. Even video games are subject. They don't like the swastikas in games like Wolfenstien.
Or in the original Bionic Commando


That Wolfenstein thing is actually somewhat interesting.
Besides education, history etc. there are also exceptions for arts - otherwise all plays and movies set in WWII Germany couldn't have Nazi flags or accurate costumes in Germany.

Which means that behind the censorship of games in Germany hides that big can of worms that's the discussion about whether video games can be works of art.
And in that case it wouldn't just be an academical discussion or entertainment like when Roger Ebert voiced his opinion and gamers were bashing him on the internet.
The answer to that question would have real, legal consequences.

It would be really interesting to have a game publisher challenge in (supreme?) court why it is that swastikas in games don't fall under the exemption for artistic use when some utter trash Nazi Zombie horror movie with a smaller budget than some top-rate game gets to use them left and right with nobody blinking an eye.

Sadly, I can understand that nobody is going to risk such a potential PR disaster or wants to pay for fighting that case to the top when the alternative is to swap out some pixels.
 
2014-02-28 05:52:29 PM
No one has ever refused this

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2014-03-01 12:06:15 PM

JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta


Next time you are in an airport get drunk and call the TSA officers a bunch of jackbooted thugs who couldn't get a job gaurding a mall and see where that gets you.
 
2014-03-01 08:31:28 PM

JDJoeE: So was he off in cuffs because of his statements?  Do they really have laws in the EU that say people have a right not to be offended by what others say?
/or was the issue something else? - yeah i didnt finish rta


They have disorderly conduct charges in the USA too.
 
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