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2014-02-28 07:15:32 PM  

chuggernaught: vygramul: washington-babylon: vygramul: washington-babylon: Anyway, I don't believe the U.S. will get involved, as China will probably take that to mean that they can move on Japan relatively unhindered, and Best Korea would also take the chance to push south in that event.

No.

First of all, China would be engaging in the million-man swim. It's not clear they could do anything against Taiwan, much less Japan.

Second, North Korea is lucky the South doesn't roll North. Ain't no way they're rolling South.

Third, if the US can't handle two MTWs on the budget we have, why the fark bother?

Hmm, let's see here... China's PLAN has 3 amphibious transport docks  (each capable of carrying between 500-800 troops), 26 LST's (each can carry about 217 troops and twenty-two 25 ton tanks), Add to this the plethora of other vessels (including auxiliary troop transports) and I would say they could land a decent force (Around 8000 troops to start with including 600+ armored units)  long enough to secure an airfield to use for their invasion, so your assertion that they would be engaging in a million man swim is absurd to the nth degree. As for the Norks, they won't move on their own (nobody suggested that) but you can damn well be sure that they would move if China attacked Japan.

Ooh. 8000 troops. 600 armored units. Well, lord knows how the US could POSSIBLY deal with that just with in-theater assets. I mean, how on EARTH would the Japanese survive if there are only 50,000 US military personnel in Japan?

And the South Koreans don't need our help to stop the North.

Don't forget the carrier units we have in place in the area, and the LRB's that be called in force.

/suggesting Russia, China, and NK would move in unison in this day and age is simply silly.


If we honor our treaty obligations and get in a war with Russia, it really isn't. As it our forces stand right now, we would need to split between at least 3 Naval fronts in a destabilization event, and those troops quartered in Japan don't do shiat if you focus your initial landing on the Islands that they want anyway. Better yet, all China has to do to dampen our response is a conventional missile attack followed by drones to keep the main forces occupied. This is not only well within China's ability to do, it is also very difficult for the U.S. troops stationed on Japan to defend against. And if you think about their alliance with China, basically Russia has this one locked up strategically. We will have to give up on helping Ukraine militarily (or let Britain handle it), or risk Russia honoring their obligations to assist China with their assault. And Yes, Chuggernaught, Submarine forces do have that affect on LST's but China is decently equipped to handle protecting a small invasion force against submarine threats. The gravest mistake you can make in a situation like this is underestimating the opposing forces (like forgetting Russia's aid) and overestimating how many trained boots we can put on the ground in short order.
 
2014-02-28 08:45:05 PM  

traylor: nullptr: No that is just the regular muzzle device/brake.


[img.fark.net image 755x794]

Here's a closer pic.

I don't know if it is real, but an expert on my local news site commented that the plug is well visible in the barrel.


No, that is a muzzle brake.  Which allows for more accurate shooting in rapid fire.  Your "expert" doesn't know jack shiat.
 
2014-02-28 08:59:09 PM  

cynicalminion: HotWingAgenda: cynicalminion: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071877/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

"there is a uniform, there must have been a man in it..."

cheers to anthony perkins
lauren bacall
wendy hiller
albert finney
sean connery
michael york
john gielgud
ingrid bergman
jaqueline bissette
vanessa redgrave
martin balsam
richard widmark

Holy shiat. Thanks to you, I just learned that Lauren Bacall is not only still alive, but still acting.

do you know how to whistle?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-28 09:37:35 PM  

washington-babylon: If we honor our treaty obligations and get in a war with Russia, it really isn't. As it our forces stand right now, we would need to split between at least 3 Naval fronts in a destabilization event, and those troops quartered in Japan don't do shiat if you focus your initial landing on the Islands that they want anyway. Better yet, all China has to do to dampen our response is a conventional missile attack followed by drones to keep the main forces occupied. This is not only well within China's ability to do, it is also very difficult for the U.S. troops stationed on Japan to defend against. And if you think about their alliance with China, basically Russia has this one locked up strategically. We will have to give up on helping Ukraine militarily (or let Britain handle it), or risk Russia honoring their obligations to assist China with their assault. And Yes, Chuggernaught, Submarine forces do have that affect on LST's but China is decently equipped to handle protecting a small invasion force against submarine threats. The gravest mistake you can make in a situation like this is underestimating the opposing forces (like forgetting Russia's aid) and overestimating how many trained boots we can put on the ground in short order.


OK, so only China has missiles and drones. Our troops are vulnerable to them, but not the other way around. I've heard of asymmetric warfare, but I don't think this is what was in mind.
 
2014-02-28 10:40:17 PM  
So then Russia should offer to buy Crimea from the Ukraine, that needs they money to fend off years of debt bondage to the IMF.

Russia is no longer the global enemy of the USA: that function has been bought by China. Russia should be cultivated as an ally against China or at least a benevolent neutral, as should India, Japan, the Philippines and Iran.

China must be destroyed.
 
2014-03-01 12:07:44 AM  

cynicalminion: Kittypie070: cynicalminion: Kittypie070: well shiat

"please madame, if you must go woof-woof, go woof-woof not to windward but to leeward, help her pierre..."

Well if it's that kinda party I may as well take a steaming dump in Pooty's bowl of taters.


i was not aware i was keeping my hands ON miss debonham, but if you think the princess dragomirov's puppies don't need their NEW potatoes while she has her POACHED sole (her soul's already jerky, don't try it) then we'll all be stuck listening to the farking good ship lollipop again. CURSE YOU SHIRLEY TEMPLE HARLOT!


wat
 
2014-03-01 12:59:27 AM  
Does this mean James Bond movies will be exciting again?
 
2014-03-01 02:57:45 AM  

Tatterdemalian: yet another example of how the left can't comprehend the right.


I'm more of a centrist, but what you say is truer than you know.  I can't comprehend the popularity, thinking, or morality of any of these people:

Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachman
Ralph Reed
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Pat Robertson
Rick Perry
Ann Coulter
Glen Beck
Rush Limbaugh

/You not only let them into the party, you made them your candidates-of-choice and spokespersons.
 
2014-03-01 02:58:23 AM  

AngryDragon: brimed03: AngryDragon: brimed03: way south: Launch Code: President Putin better watch his step. barry isn't afraid to draw a red line and if that line is crossed there'll be another red line right behind it.

Just you watch, he's going to keep crossing lines till that countries cut in half.
Then we get serious and start sending memos.

/angry, angry, memos!

That's right, gorram it! If Good Ole Dubya (GOD-R) was still in charge, our boys would already be in there calling surgical strike packaGGGEEZZZZZ-- sorry, I allus orgasm at that phrase-- just like those other countries he liberated before the people living there even asked for it. It'd all be over before it started. Mission Accomplished Baby!

You may want to consider upping your dosage.  Just a suggestion.

Why? Because I mirrored back the same politiderp that Obama haters regularly spew? Where's your indignation when that stuff gets posted?

Actually I was addressing both of you.


Oh.

Well, that's fair.
 
2014-03-01 03:00:17 AM  
TeddyRooseveltsMustache:

GOOD LORD.

That's the manliest thing I've ever seen!  I'm referring, of course, to your Fark handle.
 
2014-03-01 03:35:14 AM  
yet another example of how the left can't comprehend the right.

Richard Mourdock (R-IN): "I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen." - October 2012

Todd Akin (R-MO): "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that whole thing down" - mid 2012 Senate Campaign


YUP
 
2014-03-01 03:39:05 AM  
goddammit I got troll hooked yet again

Guys, don't let my tomfoolery 'jack the thread, I was only trying to point up crap about COMPREHENSION.

/sorry
 
2014-03-01 03:42:30 AM  

washington-babylon: vygramul: washington-babylon: Anyway, I don't believe the U.S. will get involved, as China will probably take that to mean that they can move on Japan relatively unhindered, and Best Korea would also take the chance to push south in that event.

No.

First of all, China would be engaging in the million-man swim. It's not clear they could do anything against Taiwan, much less Japan.

Second, North Korea is lucky the South doesn't roll North. Ain't no way they're rolling South.

Third, if the US can't handle two MTWs on the budget we have, why the fark bother?

Hmm, let's see here... China's PLAN has 3 amphibious transport docks  (each capable of carrying between 500-800 troops), 26 LST's (each can carry about 217 troops and twenty-two 25 ton tanks), Add to this the plethora of other vessels (including auxiliary troop transports) and I would say they could land a decent force (Around 8000 troops to start with including 600+ armored units)  long enough to secure an airfield to use for their invasion, so your assertion that they would be engaging in a million man swim is absurd to the nth degree. As for the Norks, they won't move on their own (nobody suggested that) but you can damn well be sure that they would move if China attacked Japan.


That's nice and all, but it'll never make it to Japan. Even ignoring what assets the US has there, the JMSDF is the third largest navy in the world. I think they'll be okay.
 
2014-03-01 04:31:55 AM  
Putin's not as crazy as Saddam, but when I read they're blocking the exits, I can't help but think "And attempted chemical solution in 3...2...1..."
 
2014-03-01 07:46:30 AM  

KellyX: Found a good up-to-date live feed about all the news coming out:  http://www.reddit.com/live/3rgnbke2rai6hen7ciytwcxadi


OK, news is coming out now.
 
2014-03-01 03:55:29 PM  

brimed03: TeddyRooseveltsMustache:

GOOD LORD.

That's the manliest thing I've ever seen!  I'm referring, of course, to your Fark handle.


Hahahahaha, thanks. People thought it was pretty awesome when I first made this account too.
 
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