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2014-02-27 11:56:40 PM
Trouble began brewing during the 2012 re-election campaign as there were rumors that the Obama team was considering replacing Biden with then-outgoing-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

I wasn't even aware you could do that.
 
2014-02-27 11:59:57 PM
 
2014-02-28 12:10:45 AM

fusillade762: To oust a vice president requires a vote of the House and two-thirds vote in the Senate: a messy matter, but it would be fascinating television.

Interesting. Though I guess they could always pressure him to resign.


I believe that's only to replace a sitting VP.  Obama could have theoretically just chosen a different running mate when seeking reelection in 2012 without going through the whole hullabaloo - it was a new election, and just because Biden was the incumbent VP he wouldn't have automatically been the running mate for the second term.

FDR ran (and won) with three different VPs.
 
2014-02-28 12:23:42 AM
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2014-02-28 12:23:46 AM
I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.
 
2014-02-28 12:27:32 AM

jake_lex: I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.


Yup.  It's also been the popular opinion that Biden's gay marriage comment wasn't a gaffe at all, but rather a brilliant move testing the water on the issue before Obama stood firmly behind it.
 
2014-02-28 12:38:26 AM

TuteTibiImperes: jake_lex: I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.

Yup.  It's also been the popular opinion that Biden's gay marriage comment wasn't a gaffe at all, but rather a brilliant move testing the water on the issue before Obama stood firmly behind it.


It's been said amoung progressives, that Biden shamed Obama into supporting gay marriage. If the atticle has any truth to it, then bid end exile makes sense.
 
2014-02-28 12:40:46 AM
It's kind of funny in retrospect that it was Biden supporting gay marriage that caused the rift.  Not only was he right, but just a couple of years later and we're seeing a tidal wave of support for gay rights.  All it took was someone in power saying what a lot of Americans believed.  It's too bad Obama had to be forced to confront the issue like this.  Good on you Joe.
 
2014-02-28 01:13:59 AM
I can see how Obama, a moderate conservative, would have friction with Biden.
 
2014-02-28 01:16:08 AM
Or you can read the Politico profile where most of the quotes are taken from.http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/joe-biden-profile -10366 7_full.html#.UxAoppIaySO
 
2014-02-28 01:19:02 AM

Darth_Lukecash: If the atticle has any truth to it, then


It's the Daily Mail.
 
2014-02-28 01:22:53 AM

awesomelyluvvie.com

 
2014-02-28 01:24:14 AM

fusillade762: Trouble began brewing during the 2012 re-election campaign as there were rumors that the Obama team was considering replacing Biden with then-outgoing-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

I wasn't even aware you could do that.


fusillade762: To oust a vice president requires a vote of the House and two-thirds vote in the Senate: a messy matter, but it would be fascinating television.

Interesting. Though I guess they could always pressure him to resign.


They weren't talking about impeaching Biden and removing him from office, they were talking about not renominating him for Vice-President in 2012 and instead nominating Hillary for VP. Biden would have finished the single term he was elected to in 2008, but he wouldn't have been on the ballot as Obama's running mate in 2012. The same thing can happen to Presidents- incumbents are not automatically guaranteed renomination. Carter almost lost the Democratic nomination in 1980 to Ted Kennedy.
 
2014-02-28 01:26:27 AM
If anyone believes a line of that daily fail article, they are the worlds biggest derp-head. It's based on a profile from Politico and the most incendiary thing claims that the narrative makes are not backed up by any quotes from anyone, even an overzealous staffer.

I think Uncle Joe needs to cockpunch a reporter or two.
 
2014-02-28 01:30:43 AM

jake_lex: I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.


Basically, they tried the strategy of calling Biden a gaffe machine, while Romney was busy making gaffes that no one talked about. A couple were outlined by Rachel Maddow during the campaign.

TL;DW: While they were painting Biden as a gaffemaker, Romney put out a video trying to humanize him, and it had a picture of his grandson for "crazy hair day"...just a few days after a WaPo story about how Romney bullied a "soft-spoken" boy with hair "he didn't approve of" in his school days...by cutting his hair off.  And then, a few weeks after the "strapping the family dog to the top of the car" incident, Romney went to a photo-op at a school, and for an example of alliteration, he wrote..."Dogs drive Douglas dizzy". *facepalm*
 
2014-02-28 01:30:50 AM

TwistedFark: If anyone believes a line of that daily fail article, they are the worlds biggest derp-head. It's based on a profile from Politico and the most incendiary thing claims that the narrative makes are not backed up by any quotes from anyone, even an overzealous staffer.

I think Uncle Joe needs to cockpunch a reporter or two.


I think it's mostly overblown or just bullshiat, but the part about Joe being pissed that rumors were floating around, apparently with some grain of basis in reality, that the Obama campaign was considering dumping him for Hillary, and then again after the election when he did that interview with her, and that moreover Biden is grumpy that Hillary is both the main obstacle to his sitting in the Oval Office and she seems to have much more support from within the administration than he does.
 
2014-02-28 01:32:46 AM

Churchill2004: They weren't talking about impeaching Biden and removing him from office, they were talking about not renominating him for Vice-President in 2012 and instead nominating Hillary for VP. Biden would have finished the single term he was elected to in 2008, but he wouldn't have been on the ballot as Obama's running mate in 2012. The same thing can happen to Presidents- incumbents are not automatically guaranteed renomination. Carter almost lost the Democratic nomination in 1980 to Ted Kennedy.


I was thinking that if Republicans had any integrity, they would have chosen someone else to run for president in 2004.  Didn't happen.
 
2014-02-28 01:33:05 AM

IlGreven: And then, a few weeks after the "strapping the family dog to the top of the car" incident, Romney went to a photo-op at a school, and for an example of alliteration, he wrote..."Dogs drive Douglas dizzy". *facepalm*


What, was he never supposed to use the word "dog" in public again? I'm not sure I see the gaffe here, other than wondering why the hell somebody would ask Mitt Romney for an example of alliteration. 


There are plenty of good examples of Romney saying/doing stupid things. Those are hardly the best two examples.
 
2014-02-28 01:34:11 AM
It's funny. I'm absolutely sure that the Obama team discussed replacing Biden with Hillary on the 2012 ticket. Not doing so would have been just plain negligent. I'm slightly less sure they didn't get much farther than "If Joe doesn't want to run" but would put money on them not having done so.

Bush I should have dumped Quayle. He was a load. Biden is incredibly well-liked. Losing him would be dumb.
 
2014-02-28 01:35:52 AM

Alphax: I was thinking that if Republicans had any integrity, they would have chosen someone else to run for president in 2004.  Didn't happen.


Who could have run against him in the primaries in '04? The only who seriously entertained the idea, or at least had a small draft effort going, was Ron Paul, at least that I'm aware of, and it's not like he could have seriously won the nomination.
 
2014-02-28 01:39:00 AM
Darth_Lukecash:
iat's been said amoung progressives, that Biden shamed Obama into supporting gay marriage. If the atticle has any truth to it, then bid end exile makes sense.

It seems very likely to me. Obama is just the archetypical politician that says the things that at least 50.0% of the voting population will agree with, but Biden seems like a genuinely good person.
Obama had no issue openly condemning gays as villains in as recent as '07 if not more recently.
 
2014-02-28 01:44:03 AM

Churchill2004: Alphax: I was thinking that if Republicans had any integrity, they would have chosen someone else to run for president in 2004.  Didn't happen.

Who could have run against him in the primaries in '04? The only who seriously entertained the idea, or at least had a small draft effort going, was Ron Paul, at least that I'm aware of, and it's not like he could have seriously won the nomination.


Not my problem.  I was already signing petitions to impeach Bush before then.  They should have found someone else.
 
2014-02-28 01:55:06 AM
Daily farktard headline:
'I was given every s*** job in the world by Obama': Biden makes astonishing revelations about his relationship with the President as it's claimed he was 'frozen out' by White House over gay gaffe

Actual quote from Politico article:
To Biden's surprise, Klain singled out his old boss Al Gore-not Cheney-as an example to avoid. Gore, Klain concluded, had erred by putting himself in a silo, owning only a few issues (the environment and a "reinventing government" project). That won him headlines but limited his impact and eventually exacerbated his estrangement from Clinton in 2000. Klain counseled Biden to embrace a much more ambiguous role that fit Biden's take-it-as-it-comes personality, urging him to undertake, in Biden's words, "every shiat job in the world" that Obama didn't want to do.

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2014-02-28 02:21:38 AM
I know this is Fark, and this is the politics tab. But I choose to believe at this very moment Joe Biden is in his garage, in his underwear, hand-waxing his Trans-Am while rocking out to Bad Company. Singing along a little, moonwalking a bit in some tube socks. And there isn't a drop of partisanship in the world that could make me believe otherwise.
 
2014-02-28 02:24:31 AM
Hah, no. Almost certainly barely reminiscent of factual events.
 
2014-02-28 02:25:36 AM

violentsalvation: I know this is Fark, and this is the politics tab. But I choose to believe at this very moment Joe Biden is in his garage, in his underwear, hand-waxing his Trans-Am while rocking out to Bad Company. Singing along a little, moonwalking a bit in some tube socks. And there isn't a drop of partisanship in the world that could make me believe otherwise.


(Googles DC weather)  18 degree weather?  I suspect he'd be wearing more in the garage.
 
2014-02-28 02:29:20 AM

jake_lex: I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.


True, I remember discussing the upcoming VP debate with a friend, and I expressed some trepidation that Biden would choke, or embarrass himself (mind you, this was a week after Rmoney pulled his "Everything I have said so far is bullshiat" trick in the first debate).  I was literally cheering while watching the VP debate.  Biden all but bent Ryan over his knee and spanked him on national television.
 
2014-02-28 02:30:34 AM

tripleseven: jake_lex: I've always loved how the right-wing derp press was full of stories about what a dumbass gaffe machine Biden is...and then he wiped the floor with their golden boy Paul Ryan in the debate.

Seriously, that was a beatdown.

True, I remember discussing the upcoming VP debate with a friend, and I expressed some trepidation that Biden would choke, or embarrass himself (mind you, this was a week after Rmoney pulled his "Everything I have said so far is bullshiat" trick in the first debate).  I was literally cheering while watching the VP debate.  Biden all but bent Ryan over his knee and spanked him on national television.


'Puny wonk.'
 
2014-02-28 02:33:08 AM

Alphax: violentsalvation: I know this is Fark, and this is the politics tab. But I choose to believe at this very moment Joe Biden is in his garage, in his underwear, hand-waxing his Trans-Am while rocking out to Bad Company. Singing along a little, moonwalking a bit in some tube socks. And there isn't a drop of partisanship in the world that could make me believe otherwise.

(Googles DC weather)  18 degree weather?  I suspect he'd be wearing more in the garage.


He's the VP. I'm sure he has a heated garage that smells like sawdust, WD-40, and the scent of wet panties.
 
2014-02-28 02:34:57 AM

Alphax: violentsalvation: I know this is Fark, and this is the politics tab. But I choose to believe at this very moment Joe Biden is in his garage, in his underwear, hand-waxing his Trans-Am while rocking out to Bad Company. Singing along a little, moonwalking a bit in some tube socks. And there isn't a drop of partisanship in the world that could make me believe otherwise.

(Googles DC weather)  18 degree weather?  I suspect he'd be wearing more in the garage.


Oh please, I'm sure the garage is heated by some non-controversial method. Annnnnnnd now he's listening to Radar Love.
 
2014-02-28 02:41:11 AM
The only thing harder to do than hating Joe Biden is liking Hillary Clinton, and for that reason I hope she decides not to run. The howling oaths of Republican vengeance at her nomination would be funny but the risk of them winning and upholding their oaths is too disturbing to contemplate.
 
2014-02-28 02:44:47 AM
That'd be Corvette. His other car is the Trans-Am

:P
 
2014-02-28 02:49:50 AM

Darth Macho: The only thing harder to do than hating Joe Biden is liking Hillary Clinton, and for that reason I hope she decides not to run. The howling oaths of Republican vengeance at her nomination would be funny but the risk of them winning and upholding their oaths is too disturbing to contemplate.


You know, I thought the same about Obama.  I actually thought "the majority of rednecks will not, in any way accept a blah president, it's suicidal to run him..."

Well, I was correct that they wouldn't accept a blah, but we had to the numbers to get him in.  I was exceedingly proud of America that day.  It also made me a little conspiracy minded about the 2004 elections...
 
2014-02-28 02:50:07 AM

Darth Macho: The only thing harder to do than hating Joe Biden is liking Hillary Clinton, and for that reason I hope she decides not to run. The howling oaths of Republican vengeance at her nomination would be funny but the risk of them winning and upholding their oaths is too disturbing to contemplate.


I love Biden and I've never cared for Hillary Clinton but if Obama had picked Clinton to be his running mate back in 2008 none of us would have ever known the name Sarah Palin. I'd kind of like to live in that universe.
 
2014-02-28 02:53:11 AM

tripleseven: You know, I thought the same about Obama.  I actually thought "the majority of rednecks will not, in any way accept a blah president, it's suicidal to run him..."


I had a manager, a gay man originally from Kentucky, who didn't talk about politics usually, but on the topic of Obama in 2008?  'Nah, they'll kill him.'  And I don't think he meant metaphorically.
 
2014-02-28 02:53:49 AM
Joe Biden is such a Biden, he should be from Florida!
 
2014-02-28 02:59:22 AM

Kittypie070: That'd be Corvette. His other car is the Trans-Am

:P


Psh, he knows his Corvette is a money sinkhole.
 
2014-02-28 03:25:14 AM

Alphax: tripleseven: You know, I thought the same about Obama.  I actually thought "the majority of rednecks will not, in any way accept a blah president, it's suicidal to run him..."

I had a manager, a gay man originally from Kentucky, who didn't talk about politics usually, but on the topic of Obama in 2008?  'Nah, they'll kill him.'  And I don't think he meant metaphorically.


My very rightwing mother who hates Obama once got extremely upset of the proposition of his assassination when it came up at dinner. Even his political enemies don't actually want anyone to try it.
 
2014-02-28 03:28:03 AM

violentsalvation: Kittypie070: That'd be Corvette. His other car is the Trans-Am

:P


Psh, he knows his Corvette is a money sinkhole.


Turtle Wax on...Turtle Wax off.
 
2014-02-28 03:48:27 AM
I think I may need to clarify...

When I stated that running Obama was suicide, I meant politically for the democrats. I thought he might lose due to the racism. He didn't lose but the racism sprouted up almost immediately.
 
2014-02-28 04:14:48 AM
The Onion is a more credible news source than the Daily Fail
 
2014-02-28 04:47:59 AM

Neeek: Alphax: tripleseven: You know, I thought the same about Obama.  I actually thought "the majority of rednecks will not, in any way accept a blah president, it's suicidal to run him..."

I had a manager, a gay man originally from Kentucky, who didn't talk about politics usually, but on the topic of Obama in 2008?  'Nah, they'll kill him.'  And I don't think he meant metaphorically.

My very rightwing mother who hates Obama once got extremely upset of the proposition of his assassination when it came up at dinner. Even his political enemies don't actually want anyone to try it.


Ummm.... not liking Obama isn't sufficient to qualify yo mamma as one of his political enemies.
 
2014-02-28 05:04:43 AM
Wait a minute. You mean Big Joe doesn't really drive a TransAm?

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2014-02-28 05:09:42 AM

Apos: [awesomelyluvvie.com image 500x281]


That should say "DEAL WITH IT"

/no skills
//:(
 
2014-02-28 05:18:08 AM
Biden is guaranteed laugh a minute President. If I was in a wheelchair...I'd walk to a polling place to vote for him
 
2014-02-28 05:20:46 AM
The daily mail is "real" articles?
 
2014-02-28 05:27:11 AM

FloridaFarkTag: Biden is guaranteed laugh a minute President. If I was in a wheelchair...I'd walk to a polling place to vote for him


Yeah, he seems like a guy I could really just sit down and have a beer with.

Like Bush.

/2016 is going to seriously suck at this rate.
 
2014-02-28 05:35:54 AM

SpacePirate: FloridaFarkTag: Biden is guaranteed laugh a minute President. If I was in a wheelchair...I'd walk to a polling place to vote for him

Yeah, he seems like a guy I could really just sit down and have a beer with.

Like Bush.

/2016 is going to seriously suck at this rate.


It isn't sucking right now? Wow... I'm really skerd of 2016
 
2014-02-28 05:48:55 AM

gaspode: The Onion is a more credible news source than the Daily Fail


I came here to say this.
 
2014-02-28 06:07:45 AM

diaphoresis: SpacePirate: FloridaFarkTag: Biden is guaranteed laugh a minute President. If I was in a wheelchair...I'd walk to a polling place to vote for him

Yeah, he seems like a guy I could really just sit down and have a beer with.

Like Bush.

/2016 is going to seriously suck at this rate.

It isn't sucking right now? Wow... I'm really skerd of 2016


You should be. The NSA will be teaming up with the Grey aliens to probe US citizens, and our military spending will skyrocket as whatever interventionist president we elect next resolves to invade the Reptilians on Mars.

Hard times ahead, I'm afraid.
 
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