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(WESH Orlando)   Guy goes to a hospital claiming to be the stepbrother of a man in coma. Does the hospital C) Let him pull the plug on the life support?   (wesh.com ) divider line
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2014-02-27 03:11:00 PM  
People in Comas generally do not require life support.

Perhaps a PVS or similar?
 
2014-02-27 03:13:07 PM  
That riding lawn mower is finally his!
 
2014-02-27 03:13:09 PM  
What are my other options?  I don't see A) or B).

So I'm going with, D)  He steals his girlfriend

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2014-02-27 03:14:10 PM  
Murder with dignity!
 
2014-02-27 03:14:17 PM  
Thanks ObamaCare!
 
2014-02-27 03:14:53 PM  
Oh, and schlubby,  where is the img.fark.net?
 
2014-02-27 03:15:36 PM  
Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.
 
2014-02-27 03:16:53 PM  
Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.
 
2014-02-27 03:17:44 PM  
Hello, my name is Sam Smith and I'm Michael Schumacher's step brother.
 
2014-02-27 03:19:12 PM  

LarryDan43: Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.


You should read the article.

"A negligence lawsuit filed by MacKinnon's son against Florida Hospital DeLand was thrown out on a technicality last month. His lawyer is asking the court to reconsider."
 
2014-02-27 03:19:59 PM  

miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.


They're probably hidden away in a fan's home with their dead kid's body.
 
2014-02-27 03:20:22 PM  
Fun times indeed. You'd think that one of the hospital staff would have witnessed Fakey McFakerton pull the plug. Worst case scenario; ask consuela the cleaning lady.
 
2014-02-27 03:20:34 PM  
"Did he pretend to be Roger's brother? Or stepbrother?" Kealing asked.

"I'm not into any of that," she said.


Prude.
 
2014-02-27 03:21:01 PM  

miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.



" Jahi's mother, Nailah Winkfield, wrote that "despite what people say about my daughter being dead and how I must be ignorant not to get that, I can tell you that she is much better physically since she has left Children's Hospital and I see changes that give me hope."
She went on to thank people "who view my daughter as the sweet, innocent, 13-year-old girl that she is and not a dead body or a corpse, I deeply appreciate that."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-brain-dead-jahi-mcmath-m ot her-update-20140221,0,700069.story#ixzz2uYViVUkC
 
2014-02-27 03:21:57 PM  
The lawsuit was thrown out due to a technicality. No need to explain that one as it's obviously too 'technical' for any of us to understand.
 
2014-02-27 03:22:08 PM  
FTA: "...there is nothing that specifically states a hospital must check the identification of the person making such decisions..."

That's mind-boggling.
 
2014-02-27 03:23:35 PM  
FLORIDA
 
2014-02-27 03:25:37 PM  

apoptotic: FTA: "...there is nothing that specifically states a hospital must check the identification of the person making such decisions..."

That's mind-boggling.


Yup. Common sense is uncommon.
 
2014-02-27 03:26:04 PM  

miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.


"Hopefully, my daughter can change some of the ways brain death is viewed in today's society," Winkfield wrote. "Honestly, I think she already has."

Still not accepting her child experienced brain death and has moved the body to a secret location to keep on life support.
 
2014-02-27 03:26:26 PM  
i do this on thursdays and fridays to clear out the rooms for the weekend....
 
2014-02-27 03:27:06 PM  
That's nuts, i'll bet the mother ate her.
 
2014-02-27 03:28:07 PM  
And this guy isn't in jail for murder and fraud why?

The case begs the question: Should the verification requirement be written into Florida statutes?

Apparently it does need to be added because people in Florida have no g'damn common sense.
 
2014-02-27 03:28:11 PM  

Russ1642: The lawsuit was thrown out due to a technicality. No need to explain that one as it's obviously too 'technical' for any of us to understand.


I think because the guy had a real DNR signed buy the dead guy and the guy said he was the brother so the docs would listen to him.   Since there was a real DNR the hospital is in the clear, they should have checked ID though.

That dirtbag had a lot of vested interest in this guy dying since he was in the dead guys will.
 
2014-02-27 03:28:25 PM  

LarryDan43: Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.



You have a f*cked up definition of "simple mistake".
 
2014-02-27 03:29:03 PM  
There is a bunch of the story we are not hearing. If the mystery man was listed as his beneficiary, there's probably a good reason. Also, must be a big technicality.
 
2014-02-27 03:29:03 PM  

apoptotic: FTA: "...there is nothing that specifically states a hospital must check the identification of the person making such decisions..."

That's mind-boggling.


It is a bit disturbing. When my Dad had a stroke and I showed up to make decisions, I don't think I was ever asked for ID or proof of power of attorney by anyone in the hospital. Of course my case was legit, but there doesn't seem to be any checks like there are for newborns.
 
2014-02-27 03:29:14 PM  
I don't see the problem... this guy's family abandoned him years ago and didn't even notice he was gone for a week... the person who he was closest to emotionally, the one who was most supportive of him, was there to make the decision and be with him through the end.
 
2014-02-27 03:29:24 PM  
DeLand police say Leclair had been named beneficiary to MacKinnon's bank account, and after the widower's death, he collected $106,000.
Days before MacKinnon's family even knew he was dead, police say Leclair went to MacKinnon's home and removed thousands of dollars of furniture and lawn equipment.

And there it is
 
2014-02-27 03:29:42 PM  

Blues_X: LarryDan43: Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.


You have a f*cked up definition of "simple mistake".


I would think there should be just as much ID verification as when you get a passport.
 
2014-02-27 03:29:49 PM  

miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.


liquifaction mostly
 
2014-02-27 03:31:11 PM  

firefly212: I don't see the problem... this guy's family abandoned him years ago and didn't even notice he was gone for a week... the person who he was closest to emotionally, the one who was most supportive of him, was there to make the decision and be with him through the end.


Exactly.  There's a reason his drinking buddy was his beneficiary of this guys estate and not his family.  The family is pissed because they couldn't say goodbye to a living corpse?!
 
2014-02-27 03:31:44 PM  

rkiller1: Hello, my name is Sam Smith and I'm Michael Schumacher's step brother.


Thank god he's not reubens baricello. He'd need round the clock security to watch out for a quiet man in a flame retardant racing suit and white helmet with a pillow...

//some say...
 
2014-02-27 03:32:18 PM  

2KanZam: miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.

liquifaction mostly


nice
 
2014-02-27 03:32:27 PM  
I'll take John C. Reilly for the win?

www.nndb.com

/Tough luck Will.
 
2014-02-27 03:33:14 PM  

LarryDan43: Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.


A guy died. It's a "simple mistake" that had the worst kind of consequence.
 
2014-02-27 03:34:34 PM  

SlothB77: DeLand police say Leclair had been named beneficiary to MacKinnon's bank account, and after the widower's death, he collected $106,000.
Days before MacKinnon's family even knew he was dead, police say Leclair went to MacKinnon's home and removed thousands of dollars of furniture and lawn equipment.

And there it is


Lawn equipment.  All righty then.
 
2014-02-27 03:35:55 PM  

Blues_X: LarryDan43: Oh and Im sure the vegetable's family will now get millions in a lawsuit over a simple mistake that anyone could have made. This is why need tort reform.


You have a f*cked up definition of "simple mistake".


The only mistake was the hospital not having the advanced directives on file for the patient.  This man may have claimed to be his brother, but the DNR was considered real, and so regardless of anyones decision he wouldn't be on life support in the first place.
 
2014-02-27 03:37:53 PM  
how the hell was the perp not charged with murder?  Grand theft and trespassing!??
 
2014-02-27 03:39:41 PM  

xanadian: how the hell was the perp not charged with murder?  Grand theft and trespassing!??


Because the guy had a DNR which was real.  The friends issue was nobody would listen to him since he wasn't family so he had to lie and say he was family for them to listen to him.
 
2014-02-27 03:40:18 PM  

firefly212: I don't see the problem... this guy's family abandoned him years ago and didn't even notice he was gone for a week... the person who he was closest to emotionally, the one who was most supportive of him, was there to make the decision and be with him through the end.


In principle I agree 100%.  In Lawsuit Avoidance World, this hospital has a big problem.
/that'll be $200 for that Tylenol
 
2014-02-27 03:41:23 PM  

miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.


She's still dead.
 
2014-02-27 03:41:30 PM  
It's a bad precedent to set, no matter what the circs in this case; that a guy can waltz in, say he's unrelated by blood to a guy in a coma, and the hospital say "sure!" and let him do whatever he wants without any checking; meanwhile, just up the road, the entire nation weighed in when a fully verified husband tried to do the same for his legitimate wife.

Let's decide who can do what, and how and when; and put an end to this ad hoc b/s.
 
2014-02-27 03:41:48 PM  

TNel: xanadian: how the hell was the perp not charged with murder?  Grand theft and trespassing!??

Because the guy had a DNR which was real.  The friends issue was nobody would listen to him since he wasn't family so he had to lie and say he was family for them to listen to him.


...and get a lawn mower.
 
2014-02-27 03:43:40 PM  

SlothB77: DeLand police say Leclair had been named beneficiary to MacKinnon's bank account, and after the widower's death, he collected $106,000.
Days before MacKinnon's family even knew he was dead, police say Leclair went to MacKinnon's home and removed thousands of dollars of furniture and lawn equipment.

And there it is


I'd be asking for a pretty thorough toxicology report at this point.
 
2014-02-27 03:45:16 PM  

Radak: miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.

She's still dead.


Wait, that was Francisco Franco? Now I'm really confused.
 
2014-02-27 03:46:50 PM  

2KanZam: miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.

liquifaction mostly


Thanks.  I need to pull the plug on my fake brother and get a new keyboard from him now.  Godawful funny.
 
2014-02-27 03:48:06 PM  
On May 30, 2011, MacKinnon had chest pains, and asked Richard Leclair -- described by MacKinnon's family as a long-time friend and drinking buddy -- to take him to the hospital. During an exploratory procedure, MacKinnon's heart stopped.

first thought: Hey, you know - maybe they were really good fiends. Maybe it was a "mercy" thing - I mean, don't we all have friends who we'd trust with that decision --

DeLand police say Leclair had been named beneficiary to MacKinnon's bank account, and after the widower's death, he collected $106,000.

-- oh.  Well, so much for that.
 
2014-02-27 03:50:35 PM  

TNel: Russ1642: The lawsuit was thrown out due to a technicality. No need to explain that one as it's obviously too 'technical' for any of us to understand.

I think because the guy had a real DNR signed buy the dead guy and the guy said he was the brother so the docs would listen to him.   Since there was a real DNR the hospital is in the clear, they should have checked ID though.

That dirtbag had a lot of vested interest in this guy dying since he was in the dead guys will.


Interestingly, the article doesn't say the dead guy (MacKinnon) had signed the DNR.  It only references Leclair's signature.  I've never seen a DNR, so I don't know who has to sign it in order for it to be valid.
 
2014-02-27 03:51:13 PM  
Marvy.

An imposter can just make a claim and have you taken off life support.

And when you have documents indicating your wishes to not be kept on life support, they can be ignored.
 
2014-02-27 03:51:30 PM  

Radak: miniflea: Whatever happened with that kid who's family couldn't accept that she's dead?  I haven't heard anything about it for a while.

She's still dead.


I feel really bad for laughing at that.
 
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