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(Austin Statesman)   Your auto repair shop "may have" substituted used parts for new. Nothing a SWAT team can't solve   (statesman.com) divider line 46
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2014-02-27 10:03:04 AM
a man called police saying he had work done on his vehicle and may have received used parts that were considered new.

Don't they usually just tell you it's a civil matter and there's nothing they can do? Kind of like calling the police because you got the wrong food at mcdonalds? I'm really surprised they responded this way. Good though, ripoff mechanics should all be in jail.
 
2014-02-27 10:05:56 AM

abhorrent1: a man called police saying he had work done on his vehicle and may have received used parts that were considered new.

Don't they usually just tell you it's a civil matter and there's nothing they can do? Kind of like calling the police because you got the wrong food at mcdonalds? I'm really surprised they responded this way. Good though, ripoff mechanics should all be in jail.


The article doesn't give much info, but that call could have came months ago and it could have kicked off an investigation that uncovered a bigger scam.
 
2014-02-27 10:06:04 AM
I'm sure there's more to this story than one customer getting ripped off. Chances are they have had this place under investigation for this or other matters for a while.
 
2014-02-27 10:06:25 AM
Welcome to your police state citizen.
 
2014-02-27 10:08:25 AM
What happened Austin, you used to be cool.
 
2014-02-27 10:14:49 AM
More of a crime than the SWAT team is usually called in for.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-27 10:19:38 AM
Maybe they were stripping cars or dealing drugs, and the used parts were a pretext.
 
2014-02-27 10:22:26 AM
I'm not sure who I'm supposed to hate more here.

Ah, I'll play it safe and go with the jackboots over the sleazy mechanic.

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2014-02-27 10:27:04 AM

JoieD'Zen: What happened Austin, you used to be cool.


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Looks like frikkin' APD have themselves an RV.



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2014-02-27 10:33:02 AM
As someone who used to work at a junkyard, our biggest customers were body shops and repair shops.

Maaco was probably the largest, also.

And considering the care with which I removed the parts they required, I'm surprised these cars weren't self-immolating.
 
2014-02-27 10:33:19 AM
Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.
 
2014-02-27 10:33:21 AM
Shady auto repair shops? No way, man.
 
2014-02-27 10:40:50 AM
At this rate, AUSTIN should have it's own fark tag in no time.  It's almost like Texas is taking all of its dumbasses and trying to consolidate them into one specific location.  Granted, they haven't got them all yet, but it sure does seem like Austin certainly has than its fair share.
 
2014-02-27 10:41:40 AM

croesius: As someone who used to work at a junkyard, our biggest customers were body shops and repair shops.

Maaco was probably the largest, also.

And considering the care with which I removed the parts they required, I'm surprised these cars weren't self-immolating.


A lot of body shops use used parts primarily, and in my experience they tell you. And depending on the repair, auto repair shops will use used parts also, and in my experience, they also tell you when they are doing it
 
2014-02-27 10:44:37 AM
Nothing new here.   Not enough crime so a unit needs to justify its existence.

If your department isn't used enough, resources get cut.   That means less power for you.

This is why you will see 5 cops show up at a traffic accident.  They all need something to log in their incident report.

It there is a billable incident WATCH OUT and people show up like vultures.

Same thing happens in the hospital.  Have an incident?  A bunch of specialists will show up and just look and comment.   It's something they can bill for.
 
2014-02-27 10:50:50 AM
Speaking of used parts
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"Why...in the sink....is your vagina?"
 
2014-02-27 10:52:04 AM

Maud Dib: JoieD'Zen: What happened Austin, you used to be cool.

[static.fjcdn.com image 350x256]Looks like frikkin' APD have themselves an RV.

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One of the more glaring movie mistakes I can remember in recent history from that movie.
 
2014-02-27 10:52:37 AM

ReapTheChaos: I'm sure there's more to this story than one customer getting ripped off. Chances are they have had this place under investigation for this or other matters for a while.


Or they ripped off a cop.  That would explain the SWAT team.
 
2014-02-27 10:54:08 AM

Eponymous: At this rate, AUSTIN should have it's own fark tag in no time.  It's almost like Texas is taking all of its dumbasses and trying to consolidate them into one specific location.  Granted, they haven't got them all yet, but it sure does seem like Austin certainly has than its fair share.


Are you shiatting me, Pyle?
We're an Oasis of Blue in a sea of Red Derpistan.
 
2014-02-27 10:55:40 AM
Should have just given that LEO customer the discount he felt he was entitled to
 
2014-02-27 11:00:32 AM
Having SWAT police secure the area was necessary because of the size of the building, he said.

Or, you could just have a few regular officers stand by the doors. I would demand a better justification than that if I were in a position to do so.
 
2014-02-27 11:07:25 AM

The Irresponsible Captain: Having SWAT police secure the area was necessary because of the size of the building, he said.

Or, you could just have a few regular officers stand by the doors. I would demand a better justification than that if I were in a position to do so.


Someone pissed these cops off.  Because if I came to the cops with this beef, I'm pretty sure this would not be the outcome.
 
2014-02-27 11:09:11 AM
You spend all that taxpayer money on SWAT, you wanna get some performance.

/ seriously - SWAT is in the budget, they gotta have something to do.
// yes - that's a shiaty reason. Suck it, Citizen.
 
2014-02-27 11:19:05 AM
I wouldn't raid a church bingo game without SWAT!

/obscure?
 
2014-02-27 11:38:29 AM
What's wrong with used parts? I use them all the time. The used parts dealers charge about 33% of what new would cost (don't bother to try to beat them down........they would rather junk the part than reduce the price).
 
2014-02-27 11:42:42 AM

Explodo: Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.


ongbok: croesius: As someone who used to work at a junkyard, our biggest customers were body shops and repair shops.

Maaco was probably the largest, also.

And considering the care with which I removed the parts they required, I'm surprised these cars weren't self-immolating.

A lot of body shops use used parts primarily, and in my experience they tell you. And depending on the repair, auto repair shops will use used parts also, and in my experience, they also tell you when they are doing it



Not in my experience.  I often do my own vehicle maintenance unless it's something that requires special tools or will be more time consuming than I want to deal with.

I have caught several shops redhanded charging me or my GF for new parts or labor when they put used parts in or didn't even replace them AT ALL.  2x's they threatened to sue when I called them out on it and refused to pay for that part/service (I pay for what they did).  Both times I said "I'm reporting you to the Attorney General and I'll see you in court".  Both times they never did a thing. The other times were minor and they feigned billing errors or something.

One time a shop charged me x and I paid it...but insurance cut me a check for x+$500.  I got a call from the shop: "Um, we didn't bill you for the bumper strut  (or something like that) we replaced and we need to charge you for that...it'll be about $500."  I told them I'd call them back.  I checked and that piece had not been replaced, I could clearly see where they clamped on it and bent it back- paint was even cracked at the bend.  I called them back and said BS, he said "Well the insurance company wrote you a check for x+$500 and we didn't charge you that much."  I said "Tough shiat." and he threatened to sue and I already said how that worked out.

When I take a vehicle to the shop I:
-Ask for used/broken parts back (where I can-I'm not gonna ask for the transmission oir something like that)
-I mark secretly what is to be replaced and check it afterwards
-I always put "bait money" in the console.  The two times they tried to really burn me, the money was also stolen.  It's a nice lil' kick in the pants to them when I tell them I set them up and they took the bait.  Their face always drops.


/The shops definitely take advantage of women as I catch them more often trying to dupe them (tell them one thing, then change their tune when GF brings me in)
//I have been pretty pleased with the way my insurance companies have handled things.
 
2014-02-27 11:43:21 AM

elkraf: What's wrong with used parts? I use them all the time. The used parts dealers charge about 33% of what new would cost (don't bother to try to beat them down........they would rather junk the part than reduce the price).


It's not the used parts that's the problem. Its the fact they are charging them as new parts. That's a big no-no. There may be nothing wrong with the actual part, but you cannot label something as new if it's used. Deceptive marketing and such.
 
2014-02-27 11:43:27 AM
I can't wait until a Republican is President so that liberals will get fired up again about civil liberties.  Of course, conservatives will suddenly care less, but at least in more liberal areas, there might be something done about the rapidly increasingly militarization of our police departments.
 
2014-02-27 11:45:04 AM

Maud Dib: Eponymous: At this rate, AUSTIN should have it's own fark tag in no time.  It's almost like Texas is taking all of its dumbasses and trying to consolidate them into one specific location.  Granted, they haven't got them all yet, but it sure does seem like Austin certainly has than its fair share.

Are you shiatting me, Pyle?
We're an Oasis of Blue in a sea of Red Derpistan.


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2014-02-27 11:52:37 AM

Explodo: Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.


If they use used parts they're required to tell the car owner they're used parts. He may be willing to eat the cost difference.
 
2014-02-27 11:53:33 AM
Sort of on topic - my Outback got some pretty major hail damage and I wanted to get it repaired, sans insurance. Yeah - no dice. Every place I rolled up to was completely unwilling to give me any kind of estimate that didn't feature this line - "we'll call your insurance and let you know..."

Seems that the Subie was just too new and they knew I had full coverage. It's like I wasn't there, it was just them and the insurance company working out a deal. Made me feel like a bit of a patsy.

/ - I ended up keeping my insurance claim money. I don't mind driving a golf ball.
 
2014-02-27 12:13:46 PM
Reminds of a local story they are pushing as huge bust.

SWAT was nabbed a suspected heroin dealer... of his gun, 6g (yes six grams) of heroin and big gangster stash of $100 (yes one hundred dollars).  They snapshot on the news showed about a dozen swat officers clinging to the side of an assault vehicle.  Guess it was more a of training exercise than a huge bust.

I'm not a fan of illicit drug dealers, but unless this guy just moved a bunch of inventory for fire sale prices, doesn't sound like the kingpin they are making it out to be.
 
2014-02-27 12:16:31 PM

2KanZam: Explodo: Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.

ongbok: croesius: As someone who used to work at a junkyard, our biggest customers were body shops and repair shops.

Maaco was probably the largest, also.

And considering the care with which I removed the parts they required, I'm surprised these cars weren't self-immolating.

A lot of body shops use used parts primarily, and in my experience they tell you. And depending on the repair, auto repair shops will use used parts also, and in my experience, they also tell you when they are doing it


Not in my experience.  I often do my own vehicle maintenance unless it's something that requires special tools or will be more time consuming than I want to deal with.

I have caught several shops redhanded charging me or my GF for new parts or labor when they put used parts in or didn't even replace them AT ALL.  2x's they threatened to sue when I called them out on it and refused to pay for that part/service (I pay for what they did).  Both times I said "I'm reporting you to the Attorney General and I'll see you in court".  Both times they never did a thing. The other times were minor and they feigned billing errors or something.

One time a shop charged me x and I paid it...but insurance cut me a check for x+$500.  I got a call from the shop: "Um, we didn't bill you for the bumper strut  (or something like that) we replaced and we need to charge you for that...it'll be about $500."  I told them I'd call them back.  I ...


And how do you know that the insurance company didn't tell them to use used parts?  Every insurance company does it and they do it on all sorts of policies.
 
2014-02-27 12:19:25 PM

Russ1642: Explodo: Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.

If they use used parts they're required to tell the car owner they're used parts. He may be willing to eat the cost difference.


That depends upon the state in which you live.  Also, lots of people don't even check.  They crash.  Their car goes to a shop on the insurance.  The insurance handles the shop on the repair.  They get their car back with used parts and never know.  The insurance company knows.
 
2014-02-27 12:25:00 PM
This is common practice in body repair (though they are supposed to be transparent about it), and there's nothing wrong with it as long as it's not some shady shop loading up a junkyard door with half a gallon of Bondo...I'd much rather have salvage OEM parts used to repair my vehicle than most of the non-CAPA Chinese garbage flooding the aftermarket today anyway...
 
2014-02-27 12:27:11 PM

Explodo: 2KanZam: Explodo: Ha!  That's not your auto body shop doing that, it's your insurance company.  My father-in-law owns a body shop and after being down there helping out and working on my own car for so long you learn that insurance companies aren't above anything to save a buck.  Used parts?  COMPLETELY NORMAL.  They tell the auto body guy to use used parts and they'll only pay him for used parts.  What's he supposed to do?  Buy new and eat the cost difference?

Now, if the insurance company paid for new and the auto body guy used used, then that's a different matter.

ongbok: croesius: As someone who used to work at a junkyard, our biggest customers were body shops and repair shops.

Maaco was probably the largest, also.

And considering the care with which I removed the parts they required, I'm surprised these cars weren't self-immolating.

A lot of body shops use used parts primarily, and in my experience they tell you. And depending on the repair, auto repair shops will use used parts also, and in my experience, they also tell you when they are doing it


Not in my experience.  I often do my own vehicle maintenance unless it's something that requires special tools or will be more time consuming than I want to deal with.

I have caught several shops redhanded charging me or my GF for new parts or labor when they put used parts in or didn't even replace them AT ALL.  2x's they threatened to sue when I called them out on it and refused to pay for that part/service (I pay for what they did).  Both times I said "I'm reporting you to the Attorney General and I'll see you in court".  Both times they never did a thing. The other times were minor and they feigned billing errors or something.

One time a shop charged me x and I paid it...but insurance cut me a check for x+$500.  I got a call from the shop: "Um, we didn't bill you for the bumper strut  (or something like that) we replaced and we need to charge you for that...it'll be about $500."  I told them I'd call them back.  I ...

And how do you know that the insurance company didn't tell them to use used parts?  Every insurance company does it and they do it on all sorts of policies.


But if they use used parts they *have* to tell you, even if it's at insurance company direction.

if they don't tell you, even if they only charge you for a used part, they're breaking the rules (I'm not sure if the disclosure is a law or a regulation).

The shop I worked at put an asterisk on the invoice next to the used part with a note at the bottom of the page.

That's all it takes, but it has to be disclosed.
 
2014-02-27 12:30:04 PM
Yes we need more armed responses to consumer issues.


FFS why can't all cops just go home and suck start their side arms and make america a safer place.
 
2014-02-27 12:40:38 PM
FLMountainMan
2014-02-27 11:43:27 AM


I can't wait until a Republican is President so that liberals will get fired up again about civil liberties. Of course, conservatives will suddenly care less

It will be fun watching the mods delete those "Told you so" threads when that happens.

That said, the phony right is just as big of cop-c*ck suckers as the left. Go to any gun rights forum and the ONLY thing the phony liberty party likes more than their firearms are the cops that want to confiscate them.
 
2014-02-27 12:47:31 PM
GOOD! People like this need to be shot. When I buy new, I want new, not refurbished, not used.

I remember one time, I went to get and PAID for new tires on my car. They gave me retreaded tires that "looked new". One of the tires blew itself to shreds going onto the highway 2 days later. I got everything replaced for free, the person who made the mistake fired on the spot, right in front of me.. They got off easy, because if I had crashed from that, they would have medical bills, repair bills and a legal settlement to deal with. I will say that the person that made the mistake was not the owner or boss of the company. I still go to that shop, but only for certain things nowadays. They spent 2 days working on a radio install and they still farked it up (the radio would die and reset while I turned my headlights on, so I did It myself! YOU DONT CUT THE farkING WIRING HARNESS OFF THE CAR!!. I EVEN PROVIDED A farkING ADAPTOR.

Anyway, sort of off topic now.
 
2014-02-27 01:23:26 PM

Explodo: And how do you know that the insurance company didn't tell them to use used parts? Every insurance company does it and they do it on all sorts of policies.


Um...

#1 because  insurance was cutting ME the check for the agreed amount and I was responsible to pay whatever the cost came to be, whether it was more or less (accident wasn't my fault, if that matters?).

#2 He said "we put a new bumper strut on that we didn't charge you for"

#3 Even IF they were to use "used parts"...they were charging me not for a "new, used part".  He was charging me for a part they never replaced.  A part that was on my car before the wreck and was still there afterwards...that they bent back to meet the bracket holes for the new bumper.  In fact I believe I told him that I would gladly pay for the 5 mins of labor it took for his mechanic to bend the bracket...but I would not pay for the part he did not replace.

#4 he woulda sued if he wasn't trying to rip me off


...you don't think it was suspicious that the additional cost of that "part" made up the entire difference of the insurance check that I was given?

Luckily I moved far from that town...lots of crooked mechanics and body shops there for some reason (college kids I guess?)
 
2014-02-27 01:35:16 PM
2KanZam:  said a bunch of stuff about a bumper strut (kind of)

Off Topic (like it matters at this point) - but in cases of collisions involving bumpers (and bumper struts), aren't they supposed to replace the entire bumper assembly? And doesn't that include things like the struts attending crap/parts?
 
2014-02-27 01:57:43 PM

ZAZ: Maybe they were stripping cars or dealing drugs, and the used parts were a pretext.


Something like that would ned to be the case for it to be even remotely justified to use a swat team.
 
2014-02-27 02:09:09 PM

Carousel Beast: I wouldn't raid a church bingo game without SWAT!

/obscure?


Nope.

www.imfdb.org

/RIP Inspector Todd
 
2014-02-27 02:10:43 PM

loaba: 2KanZam:  said a bunch of stuff about a bumper strut (kind of)

Off Topic (like it matters at this point) - but in cases of collisions involving bumpers (and bumper struts), aren't they supposed to replace the entire bumper assembly? And doesn't that include things like the struts attending crap/parts?


Yup, I believe so...but that doesn't matter to a sleezeball bodyshop attempting to pad their profit margin.
 
2014-02-28 12:07:33 AM

JoieD'Zen: What happened Austin, you used to be cool.


With 158 people moving here daily, Austin is no longer anything it used to be. When stopped in almost continual rush hour traffic, you can spot a minimum of three non-resident license plates on the cars nearby.
 
2014-02-28 12:50:30 AM

Maud Dib: Eponymous: At this rate, AUSTIN should have it's own fark tag in no time.  It's almost like Texas is taking all of its dumbasses and trying to consolidate them into one specific location.  Granted, they haven't got them all yet, but it sure does seem like Austin certainly has than its fair share.

Are you shiatting me, Pyle?
We're an Oasis of Blue in a sea of Red Derpistan.


I could understand if you were talking about Texas, because Texas, as a whole, is crazy. But, Austin? Austin may be where Rick Perry lives at the moment, but few of us are happy about it. If you called a state election based on Austin exit polls, you'd be wrong almost every time. I hate that the town is exploding at the seams with people, but it still has its head on its shoulders... which is why everyone wants to move here.
 
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