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(AZ Family)   Woman is shocked, SHOCKED that her sister who was a Hooters waitress, appeared in a adult video, has been on a talk show about questionable parenting and has numerous mug shots from previous arrests could commit murder   (azfamily.com) divider line 167
    More: Unlikely, Kevin Worzalla, Hooters, means of transportation  
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2014-02-27 09:51:59 AM

R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.


I don't think that logically follows.
 
2014-02-27 09:54:39 AM

Lokkii: Not to criticize agenda-driven Feminists for setting up a strawman (Sorry!  Strawwoman) argument that this is all about a woman's sexuality - did any of you bother to read the rest of the article before leaping to your preordained conclusion? I'm guessing not.  There were a few other hints her sister might have picked up on about a propensity to make bad decisions. That is not, of course, to say that allher decisions were bad. Personally, I, for one, think women making porn movies is a good decision, and I encourage more of them to explore their sexuality on-screen.

However, back to the hints that she was prone to dangerous and/or violent behaviors which her sister might have noticed, which mentioned in the article and are quoted below:
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"There's also a variety of mug shots from previous arrests, including for assault, shoplifting and driving without a license.

As for the new murder charge, police said she killed Worzalla, a man she stayed with off and on, then stole a lot of his property.

Police said Worzalla's DNA was found on bloody items located at the crime scene.

"[There was] some blood at the crime scene on some of the items that were used to commit this crime and some of the clothing, sheets, other things like that so we were able to directly tie her to this crime through DNA evidence," said Detective Steve Berry with the Mesa Police Department.

Walthers' sister said she isn't a killer.

"I know my sister, that's all I can say," she said.

Walthers hasn't admitted to the crime, but according to court paperwork she tried to recruit a family member as an accomplice. "


True, but the headline talks about how being in an adult film, working at Hooters, and possibly being a bad parent are part of the obvious murder implications.  Assault, maybe.
 
2014-02-27 09:55:08 AM
HotWingConspiracy:
It is kind of bizarre. When everyone gets in to a moral shame panic over Miley Cyrus, all I can think is "I want to party with that chick".

And then the reaction to women that present themselves as "wholesome" is to describe in great detail of all the ways they want to sexually use them.


1 - Your name is far too appropriate

2 - Why would you want to party with Mily Cyrus?  She seems annoying.  I know she's a brilliant publicity artist and no one got the wrecking ball joke, but she still seems like an obnoxious 20 year old.

3 - That chick loves pills.  It has nothing to do with what you said, but look at her.
 
2014-02-27 09:58:02 AM

johnperkins: Nadie_AZ: EvilEgg: Being a slut doesn't make you a murderess.

THIS

Why do women get stigmatized for liking sex?

I've never been able to find the source of the quote, but I've heard the answer described as 'because it screws up the p**** economy.'  The idea, I think, is that women exert a certain amount of control over men through access to sex.  This appears to be the case with many other species as well.  It may be on a wide level (  http://www.policymic.com/articles/82137/women-around-the-world-are-us i ng-sex-strikes-to-create-social-change  ), or it may be on a personal level (a version of 'you're sleeping on the couch tonight' ), If sex is difficult to obtain, then you can charge a high, resource-intensive price like a lifetime contract for food and shelter for yourself and your offspring.  The cheaper (resource-wise) sex becomes, the more difficult it becomes for people to bargain for the high value contract (marriage) vs. a low value contract (dinner and a movie).  This appears to be why sluts may be looked down on by other women- because they (sluts) devalue the currency (access to sex).  This also appears to be why porn and masturbation are frequently treated in such a negative light- because they bring the transactional cost of access to sex down to near zero.  Women (some) don't like this stuff because it devalues their commodity.  Society (some) doesn't like this stuff because it undermines the structure of many societies.

I don't know that all of the above is true.  Almost nothing is ever true; it's just a way of thinking that appears to fit the observed facts.  The paragraph above might fit the observed facts and might be accurate from an economic and game-theoretic standpoint, but saying so isn't likely to get you any dates.


I can understand this.
Historically here in Arizona, gambling and prostitution were legal until families began to arrive. Then the women pushed to have those things made illegal.
 
2014-02-27 09:58:06 AM

HotWingConspiracy: It is kind of bizarre. When everyone gets in to a moral shame panic over Miley Cyrus, all I can think is "I want to party with that chick".

And then the reaction to women that present themselves as "wholesome" is to describe in great detail of all the ways they want to sexually use them.


Ah, that's easy.

If a woman is heavily experienced then they're worn out and thus useless. Plus, it's hard to feel like a sex god when you know for a fact that they've had multiple someone's who were better/bigger than you and you're probably low on the list of good times. Knowing that ruins their arrogant illusions of grandeur.

On the other hand, the more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to corrupt it.

/I only subscribe to the second notion
//Not about women, but about anything in general
///Jaded as hell
 
2014-02-27 09:59:38 AM

eyemarten: Ponzholio: So... umm... is this a bad time to ask what was the name of the video?

Found on wiki.answers:
Who is autumn from backroom casting couch
Current answer: Judith Walthers


A GIS of "Autumn from backroom casting couch" brings up some interesting pictures.

/don't try this at work
 
2014-02-27 10:01:02 AM

Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.


It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.
 
2014-02-27 10:02:26 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I dunno, they bring people food and drinks inside of a restaurant. I've never been able to purchase sex from them.


I've never bought sex from godaddy either, but they sure sell sex in their ads.

and I don't care what the girls in hooters bring you.  they aren't waitresses.
 
2014-02-27 10:03:56 AM

frepnog: and I don't care what the girls in hooters bring you.  they aren't waitresses.


That is exactly what they are. You order food and drink, they bring it. The fact that they are (sometimes) pretty and wear uniforms that accentuate their figures is irrelevant. You can bring kids to Hooters.
 
2014-02-27 10:05:11 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Nadie_AZ: EvilEgg: Being a slut doesn't make you a murderess.

THIS

Why do women get stigmatized for liking sex?

It is kind of bizarre. When everyone gets in to a moral shame panic over Miley Cyrus, all I can think is "I want to party with that chick".

And then the reaction to women that present themselves as "wholesome" is to describe in great detail of all the ways they want to sexually use them.


I don't get in a moral panic about Miley Cyrus.

But I can't imagine she'd be fun to party with.  She comes across as being WAY too annoying.
 
2014-02-27 10:05:34 AM

frepnog: HotWingConspiracy: I dunno, they bring people food and drinks inside of a restaurant. I've never been able to purchase sex from them.

I've never bought sex from godaddy either, but they sure sell sex in their ads.

and I don't care what the girls in hooters bring you.  they aren't waitresses.


wait·ress
ˈwātris/
noun
plural noun: waitresses
1
.
a woman whose job is to serve customers at their tables in a restaurant.
 
2014-02-27 10:07:45 AM

DarkVader: HotWingConspiracy: Nadie_AZ: EvilEgg: Being a slut doesn't make you a murderess.

THIS

Why do women get stigmatized for liking sex?

It is kind of bizarre. When everyone gets in to a moral shame panic over Miley Cyrus, all I can think is "I want to party with that chick".

And then the reaction to women that present themselves as "wholesome" is to describe in great detail of all the ways they want to sexually use them.

I don't get in a moral panic about Miley Cyrus.

But I can't imagine she'd be fun to party with.  She comes across as being WAY too annoying.


She's not a slut, she's one dimensional and unimaginative.
 
2014-02-27 10:07:51 AM

frepnog: HotWingConspiracy: I dunno, they bring people food and drinks inside of a restaurant. I've never been able to purchase sex from them.

I've never bought sex from godaddy either, but they sure sell sex in their ads.

and I don't care what the girls in hooters bring you.  they aren't waitresses.


Huh. Every other place on the planet where someone makes 2.13 an hour to bring beer and slimy wings to someone that would be a waitress.
 
2014-02-27 10:09:02 AM
Apparently frepnog would also like everyone to know that you did not purchase domain hosting from GoDaddy. You. Did. Not.
 
2014-02-27 10:09:24 AM

mike_d85: HotWingConspiracy:
It is kind of bizarre. When everyone gets in to a moral shame panic over Miley Cyrus, all I can think is "I want to party with that chick".

And then the reaction to women that present themselves as "wholesome" is to describe in great detail of all the ways they want to sexually use them.

1 - Your name is far too appropriate

2 - Why would you want to party with Mily Cyrus?  She seems annoying.  I know she's a brilliant publicity artist and no one got the wrecking ball joke, but she still seems like an obnoxious 20 year old.


I just want to share drugs with her in her mansion's sex dungeon and see where it goes. I don't plan on discussing the news of the day, I could give a shiat how annoying she might be.
 
2014-02-27 10:10:42 AM
Wow 20 years old and a bunch of arrests. Good job.

The roomate used to work at a Hooters type breastaurant called Baileys. I knew a lot of the girls that worked there and on the rare occasion  I went there the way they were treated not just by customers but by management just creeped me out.
 
2014-02-27 10:12:54 AM

R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.

It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.


So what you're saying is that men and women who work in the adult film industry are the same as murderers, morally?
 
2014-02-27 10:14:35 AM

Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.

It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.

So what you're saying is that men and women who work in the adult film industry are the same as murderers, morally?


There are levels in everything now aren't there.
 
2014-02-27 10:15:34 AM

R.A.Danny: frepnog: and I don't care what the girls in hooters bring you.  they aren't waitresses.

That is exactly what they are. You order food and drink, they bring it. The fact that they are (sometimes) pretty and wear uniforms that accentuate their figures is irrelevant. You can bring kids to Hooters.


Well, to be honest, whenever I leave Hooters, I am always exhausted from all the sex I drank and ate. My GF is usually just as tired.
 
2014-02-27 10:15:45 AM

R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.

It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.

So what you're saying is that men and women who work in the adult film industry are the same as murderers, morally?

There are levels in everything now aren't there.


What is the moral issue with creating pornography?
 
2014-02-27 10:15:52 AM

R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.

It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.

So what you're saying is that men and women who work in the adult film industry are the same as murderers, morally?

There are levels in everything now aren't there.


But given the high drug use, the disease being passed about knowingly, the suicides, the slavery, and yes, the murders within the adult entertainment community, there is a correlation.
 
2014-02-27 10:16:14 AM

R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: Erisire: R.A.Danny: She obviously has some moral deficiencies.

Do some moral deficiencies automatically mean all or any of others?  I don't think so.

No, but obviously she has no moral compass whatsoever.

I don't think that logically follows.

It's a level of immorality. Porn stars, for the most part, are not doing porn out of a love for sex. Murderers, for the most part, aren't killing because they love to kill. They both know that there is a moral issue with what they are doing.

Neither is an act a well adjusted person does. There are lots of women that like lots of sex that do not sell themselves. HUGE difference.

So what you're saying is that men and women who work in the adult film industry are the same as murderers, morally?

There are levels in everything now aren't there.


Ok, is this about The King In Yellow?  I haven't finished it.
 
2014-02-27 10:16:25 AM

Erisire: Oh.  Why didn't I notice this was Arizona?  Maybe soon people can refuse to serve her on religious standing purely for working at Hooters.


Arizona is NOT in the Bible Belt.
 
2014-02-27 10:19:38 AM

BSABSVR: Every other place on the planet where someone makes 2.13 an hour to bring beer and slimy wings to someone that would be a waitress.


Just checked the Hooters website.

Not one job listing for a waitress.  Not.  One.

Lots of Hooters Girl openings.  Heh.

Hooters Girls may perform the duties of a waitress, but a Hooters Girl's job is sex appeal.

It also (Hooters Girls not being waitresses) may have something to do with men suing Hooters because they won't hire male Hooters Girls.
 
2014-02-27 10:20:57 AM

frepnog: BSABSVR: Every other place on the planet where someone makes 2.13 an hour to bring beer and slimy wings to someone that would be a waitress.

Just checked the Hooters website.

Not one job listing for a waitress.  Not.  One.

Lots of Hooters Girl openings.  Heh.

Hooters Girls may perform the duties of a waitress, but a Hooters Girl's job is sex appeal.

It also (Hooters Girls not being waitresses) may have something to do with men suing Hooters because they won't hire male Hooters Girls.


Have you ever been in a Hooters?
 
2014-02-27 10:21:57 AM

jrodr018: Well, to be honest, whenever I leave Hooters, I am always exhausted from all the sex I drank and ate. My GF is usually just as tired.


Don't be obtuse.  You and every other mouth breather in here know full well why one goes to Hooters, and it isn't the shiatty overpriced food.
 
2014-02-27 10:24:09 AM

frepnog: BSABSVR: Every other place on the planet where someone makes 2.13 an hour to bring beer and slimy wings to someone that would be a waitress.

Just checked the Hooters website.

Not one job listing for a waitress.  Not.  One.

Lots of Hooters Girl openings.  Heh.

Hooters Girls may perform the duties of a waitress, but a Hooters Girl's job is sex appeal.

It also (Hooters Girls not being waitresses) may have something to do with men suing Hooters because they won't hire male Hooters Girls.


Do they have cooks? All I see are kitchen staff wanted on their site. How do they cook their terrible wings without line cooks?
 
2014-02-27 10:24:40 AM

fnordest: Erisire: Oh.  Why didn't I notice this was Arizona?  Maybe soon people can refuse to serve her on religious standing purely for working at Hooters.

Arizona is NOT in the Bible Belt.


It's more like the flappy, unsecured, end of the bible belt. ;)
 
2014-02-27 10:25:02 AM

frepnog: jrodr018: Well, to be honest, whenever I leave Hooters, I am always exhausted from all the sex I drank and ate. My GF is usually just as tired.

Don't be obtuse.  You and every other mouth breather in here know full well why one goes to Hooters, and it isn't the shiatty overpriced food.


Call your pastor. Name calling is frowned upon in church.
 
2014-02-27 10:25:29 AM

jrodr018: frepnog: BSABSVR: Every other place on the planet where someone makes 2.13 an hour to bring beer and slimy wings to someone that would be a waitress.

Just checked the Hooters website.

Not one job listing for a waitress.  Not.  One.

Lots of Hooters Girl openings.  Heh.

Hooters Girls may perform the duties of a waitress, but a Hooters Girl's job is sex appeal.

It also (Hooters Girls not being waitresses) may have something to do with men suing Hooters because they won't hire male Hooters Girls.

Do they have cooks? All I see are kitchen staff wanted on their site. How do they cook their terrible wings without line cooks?


They're back there frying up some sex.
 
2014-02-27 10:25:35 AM

jrodr018: their terrible


I remember a time when Hooter's wings were the standard. That was as good as wings got unless you were actually in Buffalo.

We also wore onions in our belts and beat our women with sticks no thicker than our thumbs.
 
2014-02-27 10:25:47 AM

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She's cute. Not worth getting murdered over but cute


Indeed, but I think we really need to see video evidence to better inform our opinion...
 
2014-02-27 10:28:11 AM

R.A.Danny: jrodr018: their terrible

I remember a time when Hooter's wings were the standard. That was as good as wings got unless you were actually in Buffalo.

We also wore onions in our belts and beat our women with sticks no thicker than our thumbs.


For some we should probably use the Rule of Wrist...
 
2014-02-27 10:31:01 AM

R.A.Danny: jrodr018: their terrible

I remember a time when Hooter's wings were the standard. That was as good as wings got unless you were actually in Buffalo.

We also wore onions in our belts and beat our women with sticks no thicker than our thumbs.


To be fair, I meant terrible as in health-wise. I still remember the first time I had sex- hm, sorry I had Hooters wings with cheap beer. Most worthy diarrhea ever.
 
2014-02-27 10:31:06 AM

R.A.Danny: Have you ever been in a Hooters?


twice.  the food sucks and if I want to see titties I'll go to a strip club or pull my wife's shirt off.

you guys ever work at Wal-Mart?  Full time employees are called Associates, not employees or stockers or baggers.  It's the same thing.

OF COURSE Hooters Girls are waitresses.  But they aren't.
 
2014-02-27 10:36:09 AM
And their food is pretty terrible.  Probably the worst wings I have ever had and I remember the burgers at my high school cafeteria were better than the burgers at Hooters.   We only ever went to look at the titties and drink beer anyway.   And you didnt have the annoyance of them coming up and asking if you wanted a private dance every 5 mins.
 
2014-02-27 10:36:46 AM

frepnog: jrodr018: Well, to be honest, whenever I leave Hooters, I am always exhausted from all the sex I drank and ate. My GF is usually just as tired.

Don't be obtuse.  You and every other mouth breather in here know full well why one goes to Hooters, and it isn't the shiatty overpriced food.


Business meetings where the vendor doesn't have the gumption to take you to an actual strip club?
 
2014-02-27 10:41:50 AM
From the video:

"Did she murder the guy or what?"


That is some fine investigative journalism right there. The station should be proud...
 
2014-02-27 10:46:20 AM
frepnog:

You're now farkied as "thinks Hooters is a brothel"
 
2014-02-27 10:46:45 AM

frepnog: jrodr018: Well, to be honest, whenever I leave Hooters, I am always exhausted from all the sex I drank and ate. My GF is usually just as tired.

Don't be obtuse.  You and every other mouth breather in here know full well why one goes to Hooters, and it isn't the shiatty overpriced food.


All I have to say to that is... Which hooters do you go to? I'd like to check it out.
 
2014-02-27 10:50:01 AM

jrodr018: Do they have cooks? All I see are kitchen staff wanted on their site. How do they cook their terrible wings without line cooks?


Those aren't line cooks, they're fluffers.
 
2014-02-27 11:00:21 AM

ReverendJasen: frepnog:

You're now farkied as "thinks Hooters is a brothel"


What I said was that Hooters sells sex.  And they do.  To deny it is to be a fool.
 
2014-02-27 11:01:00 AM

misanthropic1: Business meetings where the vendor doesn't have the gumption to take you to an actual strip club?


i like you.
 
2014-02-27 11:01:37 AM

frepnog: ReverendJasen: frepnog:

You're now farkied as "thinks Hooters is a brothel"

What I said was that Hooters sells sex.  And they do.  To deny it is to be a fool.


No, it uses sex to sell. You will acquire no sex at Hooters.
 
2014-02-27 11:02:55 AM

groppet: Wow 20 years old and a bunch of arrests. Good job.

The roomate used to work at a Hooters type breastaurant called Baileys. I knew a lot of the girls that worked there and on the rare occasion  I went there the way they were treated not just by customers but by management just creeped me out.


That is fantastic. I have just added the word 'breastaurant' to my vocabulary.

1 free internet to you.
 
2014-02-27 11:10:22 AM

R.A.Danny: frepnog: ReverendJasen: frepnog:

You're now farkied as "thinks Hooters is a brothel"

What I said was that Hooters sells sex.  And they do.  To deny it is to be a fool.

No, it uses sex to sell. You will acquire no sex at Hooters.


the entire attraction of Hooters is the Hooters Girl.  take them away and Hooters would soon cease to exist.  You can say they are using sex to sell, but in this case it is incorrect.  The ENTIRE reason one goes to Hooters is to oogle the Hooters Girls.  Period.  you can claim wings, atmosphere, beer, but you didn't go there for those things.

What you are paying for when you go to Hooters is attention from a Hooters Girl.  And they are good at it.

Yes....  Hooters sells SEX, specifically SEX APPEAL.  It is the entire thing the business is built on.

from the Hooters Handbook -

The Hooters concept is based on female sex appeal and the work environment is one in which joking and entertaining conversations are commonplace.

Now all of you shut the fark up.  Hooters ITSELF is saying that they are selling sex.  The owners of Hooters know why you come in the door.  It ain't orange chicken wings.
 
2014-02-27 11:12:53 AM

frepnog: the entire attraction of Hooters is the Hooters Girl.  take them away and Hooters would soon cease to exist.


You are 100% wrong and you are a bad person. Please stop projecting your perversities on everything and everyone around you.
 
2014-02-27 11:13:03 AM

eyemarten: That is fantastic. I have just added the word 'breastaurant' to my vocabulary.


that word isn't common knowledge?  Tilted Kilt.
 
2014-02-27 11:14:00 AM

eyemarten: groppet: Wow 20 years old and a bunch of arrests. Good job.

The roomate used to work at a Hooters type breastaurant called Baileys. I knew a lot of the girls that worked there and on the rare occasion  I went there the way they were treated not just by customers but by management just creeped me out.

That is fantastic. I have just added the word 'breastaurant' to my vocabulary.

1 free internet to you.


Well thank you but I cannot claim it as my own. I have seen it thrown around Fark a lot the past year when a hooters type place pops up in a story.
 
2014-02-27 11:14:25 AM

ReverendJasen: frepnog:

You're now farkied as "thinks Hooters is a brothel"


He's a pretty shiatty troll.
 
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