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(Metro)   Somebody notices swastikas that had been carved into a building's stonework sometime before 1939 and, of course, is outraged   (metro.co.uk) divider line 103
    More: Stupid, upsetting, swastikas, Rudyard Kipling, social history, Essex County Council, Freedom of Information Act  
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2014-02-26 05:33:11 PM  
Dr Mark Curteis, curator of social history and art at the council: 'The swastika is still a symbol of peace.'

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2014-02-26 05:39:26 PM  
I guess they did not see that before.
 
2014-02-26 05:45:06 PM  
I'm outraged that morons can't tell the difference between a Nazi flag and a swastika.

Guess what, the Nazis had a lot of eagles too. America still uses eagles. The Nazis used skulls. Fashion still uses skulls. The Nazis use a swastika, though and suddenly it's the symbol of hate? No, fark you. It's the symbol of good luck, Thor's hammer, and Buddhism. And let's be honest, it probably worked for them because good luck was all that kept the Allies out of Berlin for as long as they were kept.
 
2014-02-26 05:59:02 PM  
I blame Obama.
 
2014-02-26 06:24:38 PM  
The Nazis wore uniforms, my local police wear uniforms.  Please explain why our police are dressed like Nazis?!  And don't get me started on the mailman!!!
 
2014-02-26 06:29:17 PM  
And don't get me started on the Navajos, or the State of Arizona for that matter:


arizona100.files.wordpress.com

Though in fairness, considering the kinds of stuff that's being going on in Arizona lately, it's not an inappropriate state symbol.
 
2014-02-26 07:11:58 PM  
http://sfappeal.com/2010/12/ask-the-appeal-why-are-there-swastikas-n- t he-old-mint/

The apartment building that I lived in at Larkin and Sacramento St. in SF had a 2 foot diameter mosaic tile swastika in the entry hall.
 
2014-02-26 08:27:56 PM  

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A National Guard Building in Okla that predates WWII.

 
2014-02-26 08:49:34 PM  
My next-door-neighbor's house (built in 1922) has a swastika across the width of the chimney.

Meaning that it is only visible in his driveway or the front bedroom in my house.
 
2014-02-26 10:31:18 PM  
I almost bought a house built in 1859, a big, gorgeous Victorian that needed a ton of work. The entire front porch was this elaborate mosaic tile setup, and a few of those little tiles had tiny backwards Swastikas on them. It was probably the original floor, and it was simply beautiful, but I was kind of uncomfortable with having to explain to everyone who came over that it was actually an ancient symbol that the Nazis had taken and corrupted (and inverted). Even with that knowledge, I can see how seeing the symbol is unsettling, although in the case of the article I think it's stupid to change them and I wouldn't have removed them from the floor of that house had I bought it, either.
 
2014-02-26 10:31:51 PM  

twistedmetal: [25.media.tumblr.com image 850x637]
A National Guard Building in Okla that predates WWII.


Didn't the US Army take a lot of Swastikas as trophies from Germany in WWII?
 
2014-02-26 10:33:14 PM  
The main post office in Reno was built in the 1920s (or thereabouts), and has these incredibly heavy, sturdy metal tables inside along the walls. They're huge mothers, several hundred pounds apiece, great for giving people something they can sort their mail on without the risk of them leaning on it and breaking the damn thing, even if they weigh enough they should be in a hoveround.  The tables also have a rather distinctive trim:

photos1.blogger.com

To my knowledge, nobody has lost their shiat over it yet, though every time I'm in there I see someone looking at the trim curiously.  That's about the extent of it though.
 
2014-02-26 10:33:22 PM  
Good thing we don't tolerate Fascist symbols here in Americ--oh.

www.kevinalfredstrom.com
 
2014-02-26 10:34:37 PM  
Working at newspapers in various cities in Southern California we get to do these stories about every two years. It is about that often there is a new editor who gets a phone call and feels we need to explain why some old lamp posts, obscure part of a building, or other pre-WWII object has a swastika on it.  Heaven forbid these guys find Hindu or Apache artwork.

Every time it feels like a complete waste of newsprint.
 
2014-02-26 10:34:46 PM  
The terrorists Nazis have won.
 
2014-02-26 10:35:06 PM  
i860.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-26 10:35:25 PM  
1907 Corn Palace in Mitchell, SD

thispublicaddress.com
 
2014-02-26 10:36:39 PM  
You would think that with widespread use of Google that someone may have looked it up to self educate.
 
Oak
2014-02-26 10:37:03 PM  
I told you Brits aren't any smarter than us.
 
2014-02-26 10:39:29 PM  
During a road trip my brother and I were driving through Raton New Mexico and there was a building with swastikas all around the top.  I was aware of the historical pre-nazi use of the symbol but my brother was not.   He thought we were in some kind of crazy white supremacist stronghold until I explained it to him.
 
2014-02-26 10:40:55 PM  
They are all over the place. There is a park in Riverside County. One of the buildings have them all over and above the doors. I guess it was like having a horse shoe above your door. Well the building was built in the late 1890's. Seams like every few years someone complains to the county and state about them. But its a historic building so there is nothing they could do. I know something like 10 years ago, someone sued to have the buildings destroyed. In the end they settled (payout) and covered the offending pieces.
 
2014-02-26 10:41:10 PM  
th03.deviantart.net
 
2014-02-26 10:42:00 PM  
Are people actually getting stupider? I mean, we all joke about it, but it seems as if it's actually happening.
 
2014-02-26 10:42:23 PM  

doglover: The Nazis used skulls.


I have one of those!  But I keep mine covered up.
 
2014-02-26 10:44:57 PM  
img.timeinc.net

rodsbot.com

www.strangehistory.net
 
2014-02-26 10:46:33 PM  

JerkStore: I almost bought a house built in 1859, a big, gorgeous Victorian that needed a ton of work. The entire front porch was this elaborate mosaic tile setup, and a few of those little tiles had tiny backwards Swastikas on them. It was probably the original floor, and it was simply beautiful, but I was kind of uncomfortable with having to explain to everyone who came over that it was actually an ancient symbol that the Nazis had taken and corrupted (and inverted). Even with that knowledge, I can see how seeing the symbol is unsettling, although in the case of the article I think it's stupid to change them and I wouldn't have removed them from the floor of that house had I bought it, either.


I loathe weak people that worry so much about the opinions of others..
 
2014-02-26 10:47:44 PM  
Looks exactly like what the swastika originally was: a symbol of good luck in the Hindu religion.
Pointed up and straight (like on that building) = good luck
Slanted over to the side = whole lotta buncha bad stuff.
 
2014-02-26 10:48:52 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [th03.deviantart.net image 850x637]


There's a swastika in that picture?

/brb, bunk needs, um, cleaning...
 
2014-02-26 10:50:32 PM  
You know who else... Oh forget it...
 
2014-02-26 10:53:23 PM  
www.badmovies.org
 
2014-02-26 10:55:14 PM  

Iczer: TV's Vinnie: [th03.deviantart.net image 850x637]

There's a swastika in that picture?

/brb, bunk bunker needs, um, cleaning...


Thanks Himmler.
 
2014-02-26 10:56:36 PM  

treesloth: doglover: The Nazis used skulls.

I have one of those!  But I keep mine covered up.


I have two responses to this.  Wasn't sure which to go with, so you get both.

Response A

Well at least you keep it covered up instead of trying to force your skull out of your skin

static4.wikia.nocookie.net


Response B

I take it you had that "1940s Germans realizing the skulls all over their gear means they're the bad guys" moment

img4.wikia.nocookie.net

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2014-02-26 10:58:43 PM  

InflamedGonads: [i860.photobucket.com image 600x400]


LOL!  I like you :)

/Subscribe to your newsletter and such....
 
2014-02-26 10:58:49 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Looks exactly like what the swastika originally was: a symbol of good luck in the Hindu religion.
Pointed up and straight (like on that building) = good luck
Slanted over to the side = whole lotta buncha bad stuff.


Well there's your problem. Your using logic
 
2014-02-26 11:01:47 PM  
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This is the floor at Ernst Cafe in New Orleans (had my wedding reception upstairs!).  The building was built in the 1850s and they have a poster on the wall explaining the floor.
 
2014-02-26 11:03:27 PM  

Fart_Machine: [www.badmovies.org image 600x250]


Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh
 
2014-02-26 11:04:32 PM  
At first I laughed and was amused at the silliness of the request.  Then I read the article, what little there was of it.  And now I want to know why the swastikas are there.  Two bits of information raise questions:

"The design was completed by 1939 - the year Britain went to war with Nazi Germany"

"It is understood the swastikas were added between 1928 and before the outbreak of World War 2 in 1939."

If they were added in the late 20s then no big deal but if they were added as late as 1939, then it is a big deal. (Well, not a big big deal).  Was it done by a fascist sympathizer?  A supporter of Hitler in England?  There were quite a few.  If not, then why add them?
 
2014-02-26 11:06:03 PM  

yukichigai: treesloth: doglover: The Nazis used skulls.

I have one of those!  But I keep mine covered up.

I have two responses to this.  Wasn't sure which to go with, so you get both.

Response A

Well at least you keep it covered up instead of trying to force your skull out of your skin




Response B

I take it you had that "1940s Germans realizing the skulls all over their gear means they're the bad guys" moment


Biff LargeHuge

/just watched Space Mutiny last wknd
 
2014-02-26 11:06:55 PM  
They also ruined the Chaplin 'stache.
 
2014-02-26 11:08:43 PM  

Callous: The Nazis wore uniforms, my local police wear uniforms.  Please explain why our police are dressed like Nazis?!  And don't get me started on the mailman!!!


Because most cops are Nazis.
 
2014-02-26 11:12:14 PM  
I enjoy outrages without any minor research as much as the next guy, but this story reminds me of a better, yet quiet outrage from 2006.

http://consumerist.com/2006/11/20/walmart-still-selling-nazi-shirts/
 
2014-02-26 11:12:32 PM  

dali's perspective: And now I want to know why the swastikas are there.


There are both swastikas and sauvastikas there. The "limbs" point in different directions. I assume they were done for the dual religious symbolism and not for association with the nazis.
 
2014-02-26 11:12:49 PM  
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Swastika garland; NYC Subway
 
2014-02-26 11:12:56 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: yukichigai: treesloth: doglover: The Nazis used skulls.

I have one of those!  But I keep mine covered up.

I have two responses to this.  Wasn't sure which to go with, so you get both.

Response A

Well at least you keep it covered up instead of trying to force your skull out of your skin

Response B

I take it you had that "1940s Germans realizing the skulls all over their gear means they're the bad guys" moment

Biff LargeHuge

/just watched Space Mutiny last wknd


Smoke Manmuscle?
 
2014-02-26 11:13:33 PM  

gnosis301: They also ruined the Chaplin 'stache.


For years I've tried to convince a few Jewish friends to grow one for Movember to "take it back". No takers so far. I'd love to see that happen, but as an Irish Canadian (raised Catholic) Atheist, I'm not sure I could get away with leading the charge.
 
2014-02-26 11:18:29 PM  
yukichigai:

Response B

I take it you had that "1940s Germans realizing the skulls all over their gear means they're the bad guys" moment

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x478]

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x478]


Can you think of a worse symbol to use?
 
2014-02-26 11:20:09 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [th03.deviantart.net image 850x637]


I'd tika her swas...?

Invade her Poland?

I'd have sex with that woman.
 
2014-02-26 11:21:08 PM  

KellyX: yukichigai:

Response B

I take it you had that "1940s Germans realizing the skulls all over their gear means they're the bad guys" moment

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x478]

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x478]

Can you think of a worse symbol to use?


Maybe their the skulls of our enemies?

Is that how it comes across?
 
2014-02-26 11:21:36 PM  

rocinante721: Swastika garland; NYC Subway


Is that 110th street, like the Bobby Womack song?
 
2014-02-26 11:24:27 PM  
The "Hitler" mustache is also called the "Toothbrush" mustache.

To tell you the truth, I'm glad it's gone because it made you look like a dick.

The only two men who have come close to rocking a toothbrush mustache are Lenny Henry, the black British comedian, and this guy:

creativejamie.files.wordpress.com

Hey, it's that guy!

 
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