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(Entertainment Weekly)   George R.R. Martin's "Winds of Winter" is finally here. Well, a short paragraph about Tyrion is, anyway   ( divider line
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2014-02-26 04:53:01 PM  
2 votes:
Jon Snow, Daenerys, and Tyrion are the new dragonriders and fight off the white walkers in the climactic battle for a broken and ruined Westeros.

Jon is Rhaegar's son and Tyrion is Aerys' -- they are all Targaryens. Jon and Daenerys marry, so it's lights out for that idiot she's seeing now. Jon is Azor Ahai, with the bleeding star of the prophecy being the Sword of Morning carried by Arthur Dayne.  It was used in Jon's birth.  Daenerys is the Princess that was Promised.  Tyrion becomes the Hand of the King, again.

Stannis buys it on the wall, breaking the Baretheon power.

Rickon becomes the new Warden of the North when Jon becomes king.  The Wall comes down through an as-yet unforseen circumstance and the Night's Watch is dissolved.  The wildlings take over the territory.

Sansa becomes the new ruler of the Vale and possibly marries another character to cement the final treaties if Tyrion releases her from their union.

Bran becomes the last Greenseer, although it looks like he may start recruiting others.

R'hllor turns out to be more of a "slobbering power-hungry maniac" type of deity.  Turns out the walkers are rising in response to him and the humans are just in the crossfire.  I don't know that we will actually "see" that play out as a POV.  That might be one of those things that is just inferred.

Cersei, the Greyjoys, and the Freys snuff it at various points.  Tommen is no longer the king since he is not the legitmate issue of Robert.  Jamie might stay on the kingsguard if Brienne gets to join. Samwell becomes the new maester of the citadel.

We'll learn more about the magic properties and history of this world as the characters take an extended tangent and proceed further east through Essos.    Howland Reed will show up long enough to make some cool reveals about the tourney of Harrenhal and Jon Snow.  It would be nice if we could learn more about the Doom of Valyria or the tragedy at Summerhall -- but I think Martin is holding on to that in case he survives long enough to write some more short stories.

Haven't figured out where Arya and Littlefinger end up, but what do you want for a nickel?
2014-02-26 03:42:41 PM  
2 votes:

Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.

Nope. Jon Snow will eventually emerge as the king. My working theory is that Jon is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark; Ned took him in and told everyone Jon was his bastard to protect him from King Robert, who would have had him killed ("Promise me, Ned"; the promise was to protect the newborn Jon after Lyanna died in childbirth).

Much like Sansa, he's already wargin', he's a natural politician and leader, and he's not doing anything to actually want the job.
2014-02-26 12:41:49 PM  
2 votes:
I hope Brandon Sanderson has been following the series so he can jump in and finish it.
2014-02-27 09:14:51 AM  
1 vote:

Strega: What I have read about this series caused me to refer to it as "Planet of assholes." Full Size
2014-02-26 10:30:29 PM  
1 vote:
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It is obvious where this is all going. Rust Cohle realizes he is really a character in a TV show, and finds a way to hop across the DVD collection into Westeros, where he takes up the mantle of the Yellow King.
2014-02-26 09:42:15 PM  
1 vote:

James Rieper: Bglove25: Tyrion's eyes are heterochromatic in the Targaryen colors. It's a rare genetic trait known in at least one historic T family member.

exept for the fact that its heavily implied tyrion is the epitome of his father tywin...

You guys need to relax. GRRM seems decent at writing politics and subterfuge but every ounce of prophetic crap and everything involving azor and melissandre just reeks of inorganic half thought through garbage. It feels like something thought up half way through.

And the Victarion crap feels like filler. And tyrions adventures on the mainland are sadly reminiscent of harry potter and the deathly hallows 200 page camping trip. And Danny hasnt done anything mildy productive to the plot for 2 books. And Jon Snow tosses everything he learned and that has been impressed on him in the last gazillion pages and goes all potato over his step sister?


fark this series. Dont over think it because its damn clear because the authors not.
2014-02-26 07:10:16 PM  
1 vote:

Flab: My money's on Sansa.
- She will warg eventually.

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2014-02-26 05:08:49 PM  
1 vote:

RTOGUY: I hope Brandon Sanderson has been following the series so he can jump in and finish it.

Sanderson apparently isn't a fan of gore and adult situations. He'd be an awful choice in this case. Joe Abercrombie would be a decent option however.
2014-02-26 05:06:16 PM  
1 vote:
Well, that was a year well spent. Can't wait to read the paragraph he writes during 2014 this time next year. I hope it involved food.

/someone needs to lock him in a room until it's finished...ALL of it.
2014-02-26 04:06:58 PM  
1 vote:

Derwood: SPOILER:

They're going to be wearing boiled leather


I wonder if Tyrion will pontificate on the ultimate destination of prostitutes.
2014-02-26 03:55:38 PM  
1 vote:
If you're looking for another fantasy series to read in the mean time, The Malazan Book of the Fallen is in my opinion better than ASOIAF. Plus the main series is finished already so you don't have to worry about the author dying and leaving you hanging.
2014-02-26 03:54:29 PM  
1 vote:

kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

I have a very strong hunch that somewhere near the end of the series Dany will use her dragon(s) to melt down the throne.  It would be a pretty good bookend to the Targaryen era and symbolize a shift to some kind of still terrible but mildly optimistic new order in Westeros.
2014-02-26 03:37:56 PM  
1 vote:
It's my sincere hope that the series overtakes the books within a season or two and the HBO writers can end the story properly.
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