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(Entertainment Weekly)   George R.R. Martin's "Winds of Winter" is finally here. Well, a short paragraph about Tyrion is, anyway   (shelf-life.ew.com) divider line 176
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2014-02-26 12:41:49 PM
I hope Brandon Sanderson has been following the series so he can jump in and finish it.
 
2014-02-26 12:54:32 PM
Next month, Random House will launch a large update for George R.R. Martin's A World of Ice and Fire app. In addition to including many new characters and location descriptions

So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?
 
2014-02-26 12:55:50 PM

RTOGUY: I hope Brandon Sanderson has been following the series so he can jump in and finish it.



He already has an assistant who could finish it up. He co-wrote this (which I liked quite a bit):

d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net
 
2014-02-26 01:01:02 PM

Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?


No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.
 
2014-02-26 01:11:29 PM
So he finally hunkered down in the back of his van with a pen & notepad?
 
2014-02-26 01:54:16 PM
"Exclusive first look?"

Martin's already read three or four chapters at various events.
 
2014-02-26 02:12:13 PM

kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.


My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.
 
2014-02-26 02:27:06 PM

Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.


I posted this before but it bears repeating... Hodor is taking this. It will turn out that he's loosely related to the Targaryens and is next in line for the throne after Daenerys. Also the word Hodor will turn out to be a magical word that kills white walkers when they hear it and he's not actually retarded... that was all an act to keep anyone from seeing him as a threat. The series finale will have a camera close up of him sitting on the iron throne and he says "Hodor, muthafarkas".
 
2014-02-26 02:43:51 PM
The White Walkers will overrun Westeros because everyone was too busy screwing each other over, and Daenerys' dragons will be too busy killing Iron Islanders because Victarion yoinked them to help anyone. This is really the only logical conclusion to the series.
 
2014-02-26 02:56:40 PM

Flab: warg


So tired of reading this word.
 
2014-02-26 02:59:48 PM

kbronsito: Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.

I posted this before but it bears repeating... Hodor is taking this. It will turn out that he's loosely related to the Targaryens and is next in line for the throne after Daenerys. Also the word Hodor will turn out to be a magical word that kills white walkers when they hear it and he's not actually retarded... that was all an act to keep anyone from seeing him as a threat. The series finale will have a camera close up of him sitting on the iron throne and he says "Hodor, muthafarkas".


I'm thinking he IS retarded (Brandon would have seen it!)

Hodor could still end up on the throne, but he'd be a warged Brandon (or Jon!  the conclusion of his chapter was a little too open-ended)
 
2014-02-26 03:00:56 PM

kronicfeld: Flab: warg

So tired of reading this word.


Sorry.  I'm using what GRRM is calling it.  Dont get your smallclothes in a twist.
 
2014-02-26 03:06:47 PM

Flab: kronicfeld: Flab: warg

So tired of reading this word.

Sorry.  I'm using what GRRM is calling it.  Dont get your smallclothes in a twist.


Words are wind.
 
2014-02-26 03:14:32 PM

Flab: kronicfeld: Flab: warg

So tired of reading this word.

Sorry.  I'm using what GRRM is calling it.  Dont get your smallclothes in a twist.


Everyone's answer to everything in the series seems to be BLANK WARGS INTO BLANK AND BLANKS UP BLANK! As though it's the plot device that's going to resolve each and every storyline.

Jon wargs into Ghost! Arya wargs into Drogon! Bran wargs into Jaime's severed hand and helps Sandor win CleganeBowl!
 
2014-02-26 03:22:39 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-26 03:23:09 PM

RTOGUY: I hope Brandon Sanderson has been following the series so he can jump in and finish it.


*cockpunch*
 
2014-02-26 03:26:06 PM

kronicfeld: Jon wargs into Ghost!


I fail to see how he's going to resolve that one otherwise, considering Jon Snow has the closest thing to plot armor available in the series.
 
2014-02-26 03:27:14 PM
Die subby.
 
2014-02-26 03:34:12 PM
"And then Tyrion died."
 
2014-02-26 03:36:25 PM

Cagey B: kronicfeld: Jon wargs into Ghost!

I fail to see how he's going to resolve that one otherwise, considering Jon Snow has the closest thing to plot armor available in the series.


perhaps if there was a convenient character close by who belonged to a religion with the proven ability to reverse recent death....

i speak of course of Miracle Max
 
2014-02-26 03:37:56 PM
It's my sincere hope that the series overtakes the books within a season or two and the HBO writers can end the story properly.
 
2014-02-26 03:40:43 PM

tlchwi02: perhaps if there was a convenient character close by who belonged to a religion with the proven ability to reverse recent death....


Yeah, there's that too. Jon WARGING into Ghost has been telegraphed for about 3000 pages now, though. So I feel there's nothing unreasonable about WARG-related speculation about Jon WARGING into Ghost.

WARG.
 
2014-02-26 03:42:29 PM

Cagey B: Flab: kronicfeld: Flab: warg

So tired of reading this word.

Sorry.  I'm using what GRRM is calling it.  Dont get your smallclothes in a twist.

Words are wind.


It is known
 
2014-02-26 03:42:41 PM

Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.


Nope. Jon Snow will eventually emerge as the king. My working theory is that Jon is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark; Ned took him in and told everyone Jon was his bastard to protect him from King Robert, who would have had him killed ("Promise me, Ned"; the promise was to protect the newborn Jon after Lyanna died in childbirth).

Much like Sansa, he's already wargin', he's a natural politician and leader, and he's not doing anything to actually want the job.
 
2014-02-26 03:45:16 PM
"Also Jaime and Cersei are Targaryans."
 
2014-02-26 03:47:49 PM

error 303: "Also Jaime and Cersei are Targaryans."


They are Lannister twins. Tyrion is Targaryen.
 
2014-02-26 03:47:55 PM

Infernalist: It's my sincere hope that the series overtakes the books within a season or two and the HBO writers can end the story properly.


No kidding. The HBO writers write circles around Martin.
 
2014-02-26 03:48:13 PM
Tyrion does not find your headline amusing, submitter.
 
2014-02-26 03:49:53 PM
So Tyrion lives through the next few seasons?  Thanks subby
 
2014-02-26 03:50:56 PM

qorkfiend: Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.

Nope. Jon Snow will eventually emerge as the king. My working theory is that Jon is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark; Ned took him in and told everyone Jon was his bastard to protect him from King Robert, who would have had him killed ("Promise me, Ned"; the promise was to protect the newborn Jon after Lyanna died in childbirth).

Much like Sansa, he's already wargin', he's a natural politician and leader, and he's not doing anything to actually want the job.


That has been my theory too, backed by the fact that martin has always been very vague about Lyanna's death.

And since the Targaryens "keep it in the family" he will probably end up marrying Daenerys.
 
2014-02-26 03:51:29 PM

proteon: So Tyrion lives through the next few seasons?  Thanks subby


Ha, it says something about the story when saying a main character actually manages to stay alive is a spoiler.
 
2014-02-26 03:52:46 PM

Clash City Farker: error 303: "Also Jaime and Cersei are Targaryans."

They are Lannister twins. Tyrion is Targaryen.


Well, spoiler alert for Season 4

Wrong color hair, practice incest, would be really ironic (Jaime killed his true father to become Kingslayer [mangled as Kinslayer occaisionaly in the book], and Tyrion does the same to his own father. The son Tywin hated the most was the only one of his that was legitimate.

3 dragons, 3 riders needed, Dany + Jaime + Cersei...

I think it's crazy enough to happen.


End spoiers.
 
2014-02-26 03:54:29 PM

kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.


I have a very strong hunch that somewhere near the end of the series Dany will use her dragon(s) to melt down the throne.  It would be a pretty good bookend to the Targaryen era and symbolize a shift to some kind of still terrible but mildly optimistic new order in Westeros.
 
2014-02-26 03:55:38 PM
If you're looking for another fantasy series to read in the mean time, The Malazan Book of the Fallen is in my opinion better than ASOIAF. Plus the main series is finished already so you don't have to worry about the author dying and leaving you hanging.
 
2014-02-26 03:57:21 PM
My guess is that GRRM, to spite all these predictions, finishes with Hot Pie or some similarly obscure character stumbling upon (and setting off) a thermonuclear device
 
2014-02-26 03:59:10 PM

error 303: Wrong color hair, practice incest, would be really ironic (Jaime killed his true father to become Kingslayer [mangled as Kinslayer occaisionaly in the book], and Tyrion does the same to his own father. The son Tywin hated the most was the only one of his that was legitimate.


He's blonde in the book.

And in the CCG

i.ebayimg.com
 
2014-02-26 04:00:17 PM

Clash City Farker: error 303: "Also Jaime and Cersei are Targaryans."

They are Lannister twins. Tyrion is Targaryen.


And so is Jon Snow. Dany, Tyrion and Jon ride the three dragons to victory
 
2014-02-26 04:00:31 PM
Writers like Martin should be banned from writing anything longer than a trilogy.
 
2014-02-26 04:03:48 PM

tlchwi02: i speak of course of Miracle Max


He said, "to waaaarg", not "true love".
 
2014-02-26 04:05:22 PM
SPOILER:


They're going to be wearing boiled leather


/SPOILER
 
2014-02-26 04:05:59 PM

WippitGuud: error 303: Wrong color hair, practice incest, would be really ironic (Jaime killed his true father to become Kingslayer [mangled as Kinslayer occaisionaly in the book], and Tyrion does the same to his own father. The son Tywin hated the most was the only one of his that was legitimate.

He's blonde in the book.

And in the CCG

[i.ebayimg.com image 214x300]


You know I totally forgot that since I've watched the show much more recently than read the books. Conspiracy theorist in me wonders if the showrunners intentionally cast it that way to make the reveal work better in season 7/8 whenever.

Mind you I don't actually know that I believe it, but of all the crazy lineage theories, it's by far my favorite.
 
2014-02-26 04:06:58 PM

Derwood: SPOILER:


They're going to be wearing boiled leather


/SPOILER


I wonder if Tyrion will pontificate on the ultimate destination of prostitutes.
 
2014-02-26 04:11:35 PM

Infernalist: It's my sincere hope that the series overtakes the books within a season or two and the HBO writers can end the story properly.


Unless He somehow manages to get Winds out by the end of the year and I really doubt he will, that's exactly what's going to happen. They will be filming the Feast/Dance season this year, so production wise the show should be caught up or close to it by then.
 
2014-02-26 04:13:03 PM

qorkfiend: Flab: kronicfeld: Nadie_AZ: So ... another 1000 pages til we find out that none of the characters from book 1 will take the throne?

No one will take the throne. The realm will be fractured into different autonomous territories with an uneasy ceasefire, like it was before the Targaryens arrived.

My money's on Sansa.
- True heir to the north (Assuming Rickon doesn't reappear)
- Soon to be wed to the heir to the vale
- Also currently pretending to be the daughter of the lord of Harrenhall.
- Not doing anything to actually want the job, therefore not in any risk of losing her head, like her dad, brother and (almost) mom.
- A "natural" politician, in the eyes of many, currently in close contact with the best.
- She will warg eventually.

Nope. Jon Snow will eventually emerge as the king. My working theory is that Jon is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark; Ned took him in and told everyone Jon was his bastard to protect him from King Robert, who would have had him killed ("Promise me, Ned"; the promise was to protect the newborn Jon after Lyanna died in childbirth).

Much like Sansa, he's already wargin', he's a natural politician and leader, and he's not doing anything to actually want the job.


Not to mention Snow will likely come back as Azor Ahai reborn.
Jon's wounds smoke while Bowen Marsh cries, providing the prophecised salt, and Ser Patrek's bloody, star laden heraldry is in the air above.
When Melisandre looks into her fires for Azor Ahai, she sees only things to do with Jon or snow, which he thinks must just be ash but she sees a possible connection to Jon.
If having the Blood of the Dragon is a prerequisite, if Jon's father is truly Rhaegar, Jon would satisfy that prerequisite. He would be the grandson of Aerys and Rhaella and thus come from their line.

Also, I think Sam may have seen Lightbringer, or atleast a sword like it in the form of the glass candle at the Citadel.  It was described as being as long as a sword, made out of obsidian (which kills the Others) and has flames coming off of it(which kills the wights), and other powers to see and communicate across the world.  Just a theory, but seemed significant.
 
2014-02-26 04:15:37 PM
Will there be more verses to the Weiners Song?
 
2014-02-26 04:16:00 PM

Cagey B: Yeah, there's that too. Jon WARGING into Ghost has been telegraphed for about 3000 pages now, though. So I feel there's nothing unreasonable about WARG-related speculation about Jon WARGING into Ghost.

WARG.


you know nothing jon snooooooooooooooooooooowarg
 
2014-02-26 04:16:21 PM

Derwood: SPOILER:


They're going to be wearing boiled leather


/SPOILER


But what will they eat?
 
2014-02-26 04:26:08 PM
"Man, those Lannisters are a surly bunch."
 
2014-02-26 04:30:47 PM

kronicfeld: Flab: warg

So tired of reading this word.


If you're tired of warg, you must love trencher.
 
2014-02-26 04:32:21 PM

Confabulat: Derwood: SPOILER:


They're going to be wearing boiled leather


/SPOILER

But what will they eat?


boiled figs and mulled wine
 
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