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2014-02-26 02:20:57 PM  
I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.
 
2014-02-26 03:21:39 PM  
I'll be happy when everyone dies.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 03:22:24 PM  
Just make it cost what it costs and let each person decide whether the license plate is worth buying. You can set the price to manage congestion, as they do in managed toll lanes in America.
 
2014-02-26 03:22:55 PM  
Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!
 
2014-02-26 03:22:56 PM  
I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.
 
2014-02-26 03:23:01 PM  
Dubai trifecta before the end of the day.....any bets?!?!?

/poor people can't afford lions.
 
2014-02-26 03:23:28 PM  
In related news, the GOP are rumored to be putting together some legislation they promise will help curb pollution and traffic congestion.

Yep, you guessed it.

More tax cuts for the rich and an attempt to repeal Obamacare.
 
2014-02-26 03:24:14 PM  
Not a terrible policy, companies still require access to cheap labor so they will be motivated to support improvements in public transit.
 
2014-02-26 03:24:30 PM  
Well, they do similar things here, they just aren't so overt about it.  For instance, in NYC, they don't explicitly  say you have to be worth X amount to own a car, but parking/garaging your car is so outrageously expensive that they might as well.
 
2014-02-26 03:24:34 PM  
That is an idea that can only happen in another culture.  Not that I agree with it.  But at least they have public transportation.
There could be plenty of ways to do it without directly targeting the poor.  Such as requiring certain makes and models and age of the vehicle.
 
2014-02-26 03:25:55 PM  
Obligatory:

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2014-02-26 03:28:03 PM  
You gotta do it like states like MA do with car inspections that make it so a beater can't be legally driven on the road so you effectively make it so poor people can't own cars without actually coming out and saying it.
 
2014-02-26 03:28:07 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I'll be happy when everyone dies.


ROFL!!
Me too!! it can't happen soon enough
 
2014-02-26 03:28:08 PM  
I don't believe this deserves the "asinine" tag . . .  the idea does make some sense.  If the roads are congested because too many people can afford private cars, then increase the cost of car ownership.  At the same time, make public transportation more efficient and affordable (which the article suggests Dubai is doing).
 
2014-02-26 03:28:39 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.


So all of you except me would be walking!
 
2014-02-26 03:29:48 PM  
Wow it's Dubai, I was pretty farking sure it was going to end up being downtown 'Murca.
 
2014-02-26 03:29:51 PM  
That's a great idea, Georgia!  Poor folk have crappy cars anyway.  While we're at it, If we could increase the price of fuel to 5 dollars a gallon (but cut it for professional transporters so domestic goods (ie. Christal, Cigars, Truffles)  would be cheaper) I'd be happier than a tornado in a trailer park.
 
2014-02-26 03:30:32 PM  

factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.


I did a quick search out of curiosity.  Looks like the average delay for a train is...  20-40 seconds?  Timely as a motherf*cker indeed.
 
2014-02-26 03:30:45 PM  
it should have been "By george!"  btw.....
 
2014-02-26 03:31:09 PM  
How about we just ban the poor from having children they can't afford to raise?
 
2014-02-26 03:31:11 PM  
FTFA: In many ways modern, Dubai seems like some sort of science-fiction utopia.

uh, pardon?
 
2014-02-26 03:31:17 PM  
Walk peasant!  Walk!

/could have gone a more... um... historical route
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 03:31:20 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.


That's a good one.  Then you can cut back on the road building as well because the traffic would be so scarce that you'd only need 2 lane roads again!
 
2014-02-26 03:31:28 PM  

factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.


As long as you're not a female
 
2014-02-26 03:31:29 PM  

Headso: You gotta do it like states like MA do with car inspections that make it so a beater can't be legally driven on the road so you effectively make it so poor people can't own cars without actually coming out and saying it.


California does that. Also, there are special pay-to-drive lanes if you dont want to wait in the plebe freeway traffic.

/for the environment!
 
2014-02-26 03:33:25 PM  
In some cities in china, there isn't a salary wall, but you do have to buy licences for your car (no, not a drivers licence, an ownership licence for the vehicle), and they are given out kinda like NYC taxi medallions, so they can reach five-figures.
 
2014-02-26 03:33:52 PM  

dixchigme: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I'll be happy when everyone dies.

ROFL!!
Me too!! it can't happen soon enough


Emos
 
2014-02-26 03:34:30 PM  

mark12A: How about we just ban the poor from having children they can't afford to raise?


Good idea. Forced abortions all round. A solution that can be endorsed by all conservatives.
 
2014-02-26 03:34:56 PM  
I always liked the designation "the poors."

/Not poor, make good dough, but two daughters in college and a little bit of debt makes me rethink each purchase.
 
2014-02-26 03:36:44 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!


Republicans?

Have you been to San Francisco?
 
2014-02-26 03:38:01 PM  
BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.
 
2014-02-26 03:40:57 PM  

factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.



Singapore does as well....the taxes and fees are steep.

CSB:

My Dad went on a business trip to Singapore when I was in high school.  He mentioned that the vast majority of cars he saw were recent model high-end imports...."you don't see any jalopies".

Then he mentioned how he didn't blame them for caning that American dickhead who spray-painted a bunch of cars a few years prior.
 
2014-02-26 03:41:08 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.


Don't drink, don't swear, don't insult the government, and don't kiss in public.
 
2014-02-26 03:44:40 PM  
FTA: Lootah blames Dubai's rapid rise in wealth for clogging the emirate's roads with cars and dramatically increasing rush-hour traffic. "Everybody has their luxury life, but the capacity of our roads cannot take all of these cars without ownership laws," he said in a speech.

If that's the case then they should ban the rich from owing cars since they are apparently the cause of the problem.
 
2014-02-26 03:44:48 PM  

dixchigme: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I'll be happy when everyone dies.

ROFL!!
Me too!! it can't happen soon enough


Like it's never going to happen to you.
You do realize that you're going to die too, right?
And probably sooner than you think or imagine.
 
2014-02-26 03:46:56 PM  

gunther_bumpass: DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!

Republicans?

Have you been to San Francisco?


Also, if the haves try to ride a bus from SF to get to work, the plebes get all uppity.
 
2014-02-26 03:47:14 PM  

gunther_bumpass: DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!

Republicans?

Have you been to San Francisco?


yeah, sadly effectively making it so poor people can't own cars or making gas prohibitivly expensive with regressive taxation is a "liberal" thing.
 
2014-02-26 03:48:04 PM  

Raoul Eaton: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

Don't drink, don't swear, don't insult the government, and don't kiss in public.


Is it okay to hold hands with dudes and kiss them?
 
2014-02-26 03:48:13 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.

But then how will our elected representatives get to work?

 
2014-02-26 03:49:49 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.


But, how would congress critters get to work if they didn't have cars?
 
2014-02-26 03:49:57 PM  

Raoul Eaton: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

Don't drink, don't swear, don't insult the government, and don't kiss in public.



I'm screwed when it comes to the first two.

At least hotel bars over there serve alcohol.
 
2014-02-26 03:51:39 PM  
Trying to reduce traffic accidents?  Let's just ban the Asians from owning cars.

*Ducks*
 
2014-02-26 03:52:59 PM  

iheartscotch: Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.

But, how would congress critters get to work if they didn't have cars?


One great thing about writing the law: you can exempt yourself from following it.
 
2014-02-26 03:54:05 PM  
Hasn't this been the case in Singapore for a while now?  IIRC, you have to buy a 10-year vehicle-ownership permit at auction, so if you want a car you'll spend something like $60k before you can even start shopping for one.
 
2014-02-26 03:55:00 PM  

The_Sponge: Trying to reduce traffic accidents?  Let's just ban the Asians  women from owning cars.

*Ducks*


FTFY
 
2014-02-26 03:55:37 PM  
Next they will want to ban them from museums.
 
2014-02-26 03:59:27 PM  
1) Make (x) number of license plates.
2) Auction
 
2014-02-26 03:59:45 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: The_Sponge: Trying to reduce traffic accidents?  Let's just ban the Asians  women from owning cars.

*Ducks*

FTFY



CSB:

Back in college, I had a Korean roommate, and when I teased him about Asians being know for awful driving, he said:

"Hey!  It's just the Asian women!"  (We both laughed.)

However.....

Not too long after that, he was taking us out to dinner, and he rear-ending a guy at a stop light.....just because he wasn't paying attention.
 
2014-02-26 03:59:56 PM  

Obbi: FTFA: In many ways modern, Dubai seems like some sort of science-fiction utopia.

uh, pardon?


I think the author meant DYStopia.
 
2014-02-26 04:01:59 PM  

Raoul Eaton: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

Don't drink, don't swear, don't insult the government, and don't kiss in public.


Try not to be female, either, if you can help it.
 
2014-02-26 04:02:41 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.


Ive been there a few times.  Almost all the hotels are full of hookers.  Usually Russian Ethopian or Chineses hookers.  You can drink only at the hotels. I usually just bought some liquor at the duty free in the Airport to save some money cause every thing is expensive there.    Dont trust anyone there at all.   Anyone that lives there just see you as a dollar sign so be wary.  If you do drink dont get caught out in public trashed.  Thats an instant jailing and they are not nice to Merricans in their jail.  There are some nice spots though that arent full of hookers or folks after your pocket book.  I think its called InternetCity or Media city or some shiat like that.  Its on the outer ring of Dubia.   Its not to shabby there and Not so many hookers.  Seriously its really annoying trying to grab a drink at the bar and have hooker after hooker trying to get you to fork over some cash.  If thats your thing then youll be in heaven.  Other than that it really does look like a city from the future.  Very little crime there.  Oh and when you get out of the airport Take a regular TaxiCab to where ever it is you are going.  There will be dudes that will try and tell you they can save you money by taking their "limo Service" which really means their own personal car and they will charge you up too.
 
2014-02-26 04:06:35 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Well, they do similar things here, they just aren't so overt about it.  For instance, in NYC, they don't explicitly  say you have to be worth X amount to own a car, but parking/garaging your car is so outrageously expensive that they might as well.


The effect is the same - parking fees, bridge and tunnel tolls, gas, registration, inspection and insurance costs, etc.-  all limit who can drive.  But the intent behind all of those costs is not to constrain ownership or limit traffic.
 
2014-02-26 04:08:57 PM  
What do cars in Dubai cost these days anyway?

They used to be stupidly expensive - ~$25,000 US for the most basic base model Toyota corolla imaginable (no airbags IIRC and you got a tape cassette player, no CD player, no ABS brakes, manual windows... you get the picture) with Honda Civics pricing in at about the same. And then for some bizarre reason second hand cars didn't depreciate* - the same shiatty Corolla 5 years later would go for $20,000.

*exception - anything with 4WD used for dune bashing*.
** exception to the exception - Toyota Landcruisers.
 
2014-02-26 04:09:29 PM  

factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.


Exactly - a car is really just a luxury item for many people in Japan.

Dubai, on the other hand, is an arm pit of humanity - and no amount of tall buildings is going to change that basic fact.  Yes, it is progress for the Mideast - but that's like saying Gary Coleman is tall for a midget.
 
2014-02-26 04:10:10 PM  

scroufus: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

Ive been there a few times.  Almost all the hotels are full of hookers.  Usually Russian Ethopian or Chineses hookers.  You can drink only at the hotels. I usually just bought some liquor at the duty free in the Airport to save some money cause every thing is expensive there.    Dont trust anyone there at all.   Anyone that lives there just see you as a dollar sign so be wary.  If you do drink dont get caught out in public trashed.  Thats an instant jailing and they are not nice to Merricans in their jail.  There are some nice spots though that arent full of hookers or folks after your pocket book.  I think its called InternetCity or Media city or some shiat like that.  Its on the outer ring of Dubia.   Its not to shabby there and Not so many hookers.  Seriously its really annoying trying to grab a drink at the bar and have hooker after hooker trying to get you to fork over some cash.  If thats your thing then youll be in heaven.  Other than that it really does look like a city from the future.  Very little crime there.  Oh and when you get out of the airport Take a regular TaxiCab to where ever it is you are going.  There will be dudes that will try and tell you they can save you money by taking their "limo Service" which really means their own personal car and they will charge you up too.


Oh and their internet is filtered like a mother farker so bring your own porn but dont get caught with it either.
 
2014-02-26 04:15:20 PM  

Nemo's Brother: As long as you're not a female


The riders are not components of the train, and are not without built-in defects of course.

trippdogg: Dubai, on the other hand, is an arm pit of humanity - and no amount of tall buildings is going to change that basic fact. Yes, it is progress for the Mideast - but that's like saying Gary Coleman is tall for a midget.


Checking out Dubai on Google Maps/Earth is stunning.  All this new stuff surrounded by absolute barren nothingness.  Crazy place.
 
2014-02-26 04:16:57 PM  
Lets just start with people who can't drive.
 
2014-02-26 04:17:42 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?


I've read horror stories regarding the treatment of foreign workers who have been forced to hand over their passport to their employer. Once they have your passport, you can't leave the country, and they can treat you however they want. My suggestion would be to NOT surrender your passport, if at all possible.
 
2014-02-26 04:18:02 PM  
Cash for Clunkers was a start. Destroy all the used cars. Create a shortage of used parts so the poors can't afford to fix their old junkers!
 
2014-02-26 04:19:44 PM  
I'm okay with this.
 
2014-02-26 04:24:18 PM  

Nemo's Brother: factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.

As long as you're not a female


In which case your commute would involve getting groped.
 
2014-02-26 04:29:01 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.


1. Do not get into an argument with an emirati
2. Do not get into an argument with an arab.
3. Do not get into a road rage incident - people drive like crazy, tailgate, tailgate while flashing their high beams at you to get out of their way, cut you off, they may even brake check you after passing if they think you didn't get out of the way fast enough - DO NOT RISE TO IT. If someone comes up behind you on the highway while flashing their lights and honking their horn, just move over.
4. Do not make hand gestures of any sort while driving.
5. If, probably while driving, someone makes a hand gesture like this it isn't as rude as it looks, it means "wait". Don't lose your temper over it or try to use it yourself.
6. If you get in a car crash with an emirati or arab and nobody is badly hurt, then don't bother fighting the ticket. The cops will say it's your fault even if the other person drive into you at a stop light. All fighting will do is fark with your life and cost a lot of money.
7. Don't fark hookers
8. Be careful about getting drunk in public - technically tourists are only allowed to drink in their hotels. 99.9% of people have an incident free time but that last 0.1% is a real humdinger.
9. Try to avoid taking any proscription medicines into the country, particularly any painkillers, anti-depressants or stimulants (ADD medication).
10. If you're going with your significant other then keep public displays of affection to a minimum.
11. If a cap driver tries to shake you down for a couple hundred dhirrims after giving you a lift while you're drunk then seriously consider swallowing your pride and coughing up.
 
2014-02-26 04:36:19 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!


yet every time I hear somebody talking about a plan that would make car ownership/use more expensive, it's coming from the other side of the aisle.

Remember that cash-for-clunkers program the effectively destroyed a large portion of used auto parts that would have enabled a person to keep a car cheaply on the road for many years to come?
 
2014-02-26 04:40:30 PM  

badhatharry: Destroy all the used cars


Great idea! I mean, who wants junky-ass used cars like this on the roads...

www.performance-car-guide.co.uk

beyondthemarquee.com

autoportal.co.ke

www.antiquesvintage.com

espacionoticias.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-26 04:44:20 PM  
The difference between the middle east and GOP supported policy is becoming less and less.
 
2014-02-26 04:51:13 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: badhatharry: Destroy all the used cars

Great idea! I mean, who wants junky-ass used cars like this on the roads...

[www.performance-car-guide.co.uk image 850x552]

[beyondthemarquee.com image 850x531]

[autoportal.co.ke image 850x642]

[www.antiquesvintage.com image 850x556]

[espacionoticias.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Those cars are killing the Earth!
 
2014-02-26 04:52:31 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have a better idea: Let's ban stupid people from owning cars.


We wouldn't even need roads anymore! Brilliant!
 
2014-02-26 04:58:11 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.


lh5.googleusercontent.com

This is the leader of Dubai.  It's pretty much all you need to know.
 
2014-02-26 05:01:09 PM  

Mouser: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 305x436]

This is the leader of Dubai.  It's pretty much all you need to know.


Zod?
 
2014-02-26 05:08:50 PM  

Mouser: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 305x436]

This is the leader of Dubai.  It's pretty much all you need to know.



He looks beyond handsome and intelligent.
 
2014-02-26 05:10:11 PM  
We already do that here in the US, except we do it indirectly thru taxes and fees. One of the legislators wants to raise the state gasoline tax another 43 cents a gallon on top of the @40 cents (plus sales tax) we're already paying.
 
2014-02-26 05:13:06 PM  
won't work in the US for several reasons:

1. Outside major cities mass transit for local travel can range from adequate in smaller cities  with populations at 50,000 and above  to spotty for cities with populations under 50,000 to nearly non existent in the smallest cities and towns.

2. in many smaller cities mass transit does not run 24/7 making it a non starter for those working night and graveyard shifts.

3. people love their cars too much.
 
2014-02-26 05:14:42 PM  

Target Builder: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

1. Do not get into an argument with an emirati
2. Do not get into an argument with an arab.
3. Do not get into a road rage incident - people drive like crazy, tailgate, tailgate while flashing their high beams at you to get out of their way, cut you off, they may even brake check you after passing if they think you didn't get out of the way fast enough - DO NOT RISE TO IT. If someone comes up behind you on the highway while flashing their lights and honking their horn, just move over.
4. Do not make hand gestures of any sort while driving.
5. If, probably while driving, someone makes a hand gesture like this it isn't as rude as it looks, it means "wait". Don't lose your temper over it or try to use it yourself.
6. If you get in a car crash with an emirati or arab and nobody is badly hurt, then don't bother fighting the ticket. The cops will say it's your fault even if the other person drive into you at a stop light. All fighting will do is fark with your life and cost a lot of money.
7. Don't fark hookers
8. Be careful about getting drunk in public - technically tourists are only allowed to drink in their hotels. 99.9% of people have an incident free time but that last 0.1% is a real humdinger.
9. Try to avoid taking any proscription medicines into the country, particularly any painkillers, anti-depressants or stimulants (ADD medication).
10. If you're going with your significant other then keep public displays of affection to a minimum.
11. If a cap driver tries to shake you down for a couple hundred dhirrims after giving you a lift while you're drunk then seriously consider swallowing your pride and coughing up.


Why go there at all? I mean, some amazing architecture, sure, but it's the Middle East. I realize that there is an incredible amount of history in the Middle East but it's just such a shiathole of conflict and ass-backward-ness... I just have no desire to go there.
 
2014-02-26 05:20:15 PM  

factoryconnection: Checking out Dubai on Google Maps/Earth is stunning. All this new stuff surrounded by absolute barren nothingness. Crazy place.


I'm not sure how old the images are, but their "World" islands are about 96% empty [on Google Maps]. There's "Island Michael Schumacker" and the Royal Island Beach Club built up, but that's about it.

God, that eyesore must have cost a lot.
 
2014-02-26 05:52:03 PM  

Headso: gunther_bumpass: DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!

Republicans?

Have you been to San Francisco?

yeah, sadly effectively making it so poor people can't own cars or making gas prohibitivly expensive with regressive taxation is a "liberal" thing.


In all fairness, I think it's an urban thing.

Cars don't scale, transit requires scale.

So Michigan, home of Detroit (abandoned urban core and immediate surround), sprawl, $150K first houses draped around lakes,and $500K second houses scattered across the fingers, thumb and UP, is like "Um, what do you mean, we should have transit?  How the fark does that work?"

And Massachusetts, one of the most densely populated states in the country, and home to Boston (and more importantly Boston traffic) is like "Fark you, get in the damn bus.  There's no freaking room for more cars."

And then if you're CA (home of SF and LA, 2 of the worst traffic cities in the country), and what goes up hits the temperature inversion and stays there forever, yes, de facto banning cars unless you really need them is not the worst idea.  Especially once 10/30 goes through, and LA has sorta actual mass transit.
 
2014-02-26 06:00:54 PM  
A preferred destination for Hollywood A-Listers
 
2014-02-26 06:06:42 PM  
Within city limits, I want to see golf carts only. Golf carts everywhere. In a hurry? I don't care, golf cart. You have to go 30 blocks? Tough, its going to take an extra 3 minutes, golf cart. Oh, you're a cop? Your gokf cart can go 5 mph faster. Need a truck? No problem, 4 AM to 8 AM, after that you get fined and forfeit yod truck. 

Oh, and ride a bike to work, your boss has to give you $20. Per shift. He can take $10 of it from his chubby employee in the golf cart.
 
2014-02-26 06:24:22 PM  

Raoul Eaton: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

Don't drink, don't swear, don't insult the government, and don't kiss in public.


and don't be gay.
 
2014-02-26 06:26:15 PM  

Jument: Why go there at all?



I'm just there for an overnight layover on my way back home from Europe.

/Sounds crazy?
//Maybe...but I'll be flying first and business class on Emirates.
 
2014-02-26 06:26:21 PM  
i527.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-26 06:31:26 PM  
Why do you think Europeans have a $10 toll every fifteen miles? The us is the only country on earth where people who can't afford shampoo drive 70 miles a day.
 
2014-02-26 06:50:28 PM  

Obbi: FTFA: In many ways modern, Dubai seems like some sort of science-fiction utopia.

uh, pardon?


Someone has mixed up utopia and distopia.
 
2014-02-26 06:59:52 PM  

Mouser: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

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This is the leader of Dubai.  It's pretty much all you need to know.


Yakov Schmirnoff is the leader of Dubai?
 
2014-02-26 07:03:54 PM  
I didn't think that there were poor people in Dubai.

Just rich Arabs, tourists, and slaves.
 
2014-02-26 07:08:44 PM  

madgonad: I didn't think that there were poor people in Dubai.

Just rich Arabs, tourists, and slaves.



But aren't slaves poor?  Technically poor?
 
2014-02-26 07:10:42 PM  
This idea is so assholish, I'm kinda surprised the Republicans didn't come up with it first and introduce it as proposed legislation in a dozen states.
 
2014-02-26 07:11:38 PM  

bingo the psych-o: factoryconnection: I think Japan has some similar-spirit policies.  According to the folks I talked to when I was there with the Navy, your car gets more expensive to register with age, and you have to have proof of off-street parking in order to purchase a car in the first place.  That's gotta price out a lot of people.

However, their public transport system is top-notch and timely as a motherf*cker.

I did a quick search out of curiosity.  Looks like the average delay for a train is...  20-40 seconds?  Timely as a motherf*cker indeed.


Must be JR.  Take one of the private train lines like Hankyu or Hanshin and if you have one of those radio-controlled watches that sync to the atomic clock every day, you'll see the train pull up right on the minute every time.

Pssh.  40 seconds.  Get it together, JR!
 
2014-02-26 07:11:52 PM  

Dwindle: Why do you think Europeans have a $10 toll every fifteen miles? The us is the only country on earth where people who can't afford shampoo drive 70 miles a day.


1970: fark the poors, let 'em stay in the city.
2014: fark the poors. Get 'em out of my city.
 
2014-02-26 07:38:03 PM  

ciberido: Obbi: FTFA: In many ways modern, Dubai seems like some sort of science-fiction utopia.

uh, pardon?

I think the author meant DYStopia.


Depends on which side of the argument you're on, I suppose.
 
2014-02-26 07:43:54 PM  
The Dubai cops will get your poor ass

www.khaleejtimes.com
 
2014-02-26 08:33:13 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Mouser: The_Sponge: BTW, does anyone have any travel tips regarding Dubai?  I will be there in May.

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 305x436]

This is the leader of Dubai.  It's pretty much all you need to know.

Yakov Schmirnoff is the leader of Dubai?


What a country!
 
2014-02-26 08:34:06 PM  

Zuzax: ciberido: Obbi: FTFA: In many ways modern, Dubai seems like some sort of science-fiction utopia.

uh, pardon?

I think the author meant DYStopia.

Depends on which side of the argument you're on, I suppose.


True. I suppose it's something of a utopia for rapists.
 
2014-02-26 08:47:35 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Well, they do similar things here, they just aren't so overt about it.  For instance, in NYC, they don't explicitly  say you have to be worth X amount to own a car, but parking/garaging your car is so outrageously expensive that they might as well.


Yes, damn they.
 
2014-02-26 09:02:39 PM  

Jument: Target Builder: 

Why go there at all? I mean, some amazing architecture, sure, but it's the Middle East. I realize that there is an incredible amount of history in the Middle East but it's just such a shiathole of conflict and ass-backward-ness... I just have no de ...


If you're going there for work then you can put away a lot of $$$ very quickly provided you don't start trying to keep up with the Joneses.

For any other reason there are (IMO) much better places:

Weather: South France, Spain, Caribbean, Australia...
Beaches: California, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Bali, Fiji, Hawaii, The Mediterranean...
Middle Eastern Culture and History: Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Pretty much anywhere really as Dubai has LITERALLY paved over everything more than 30 years old. There is literally nothing there. Zip.
Hookers: Vegas, Amsterdam
Shopping: Paris, London, New York
 
2014-02-26 09:11:15 PM  
Carbon taxes, you Upper Class Twits! Don't you remember how well that worked for acid rain? It was your idea, not the greens and hippies. Put a hefty carbon tax on gasoline and clear the roads of everything except Teslas, Leafs, and the limousines of the super rich.

Do I have to explain everything to you in words of one syllable, you stupid rich biatches?

Here's two:  Fark you!
 
2014-02-26 09:34:49 PM  
ts3.mm.bing.net
Never work as long as these evil things exist.
 
2014-02-26 10:37:17 PM  
Because it's worked so well in the USA...
 
2014-02-26 11:11:08 PM  

mark12A: How about we just ban the poor from having children they can't afford to raise?


Because the Democrats don't want to lose their voter base.
 
2014-02-26 11:12:33 PM  

jjorsett: We already do that here in the US, except we do it indirectly thru taxes and fees. One of the legislators wants to raise the state gasoline tax another 43 cents a gallon on top of the @40 cents (plus sales tax) we're already paying.


Well, yes and no, depending on where you are.  Some areas make it very expensive and difficult, like CA and NC.  However, MI gives some automotive support to poor families in Detroit and Flint.

Here, I can buy a running car for $400 and put it on the road legally with only a $65 registering fee plus insurance.

My dad had a running truck, but couldn't drive it or sell it because of a check engine light was on, in NC.  He gave it to me in MI, where it is fully legal on the road.  I don't think he can buy a used vehicle below $1000, and then the few hundred dollars of fees to get it on the road.

Politicians will always find a way of messing you up.
 
2014-02-26 11:15:04 PM  
How about giving people a road pass that is only usable so many hours a week. That way it does not discrimate by class.  In too many areas in too many communities money seems to trump all else, when there are fairer methods of doing it (for instance Sweden and fines based on income ;)
 
2014-02-26 11:26:26 PM  
Dubai just admits it, London's just as bad, and American cities want to bring the same thing over here New York in particular. Red light camera, speed camera, vehicle inspections, licensing and registration feeds, congestion prices, tolls, etc are just a tax on the poor intended to reduce the amount of poor on the roads. In most cities due to urban sprawl; mass transit isn't a solution.
 
2014-02-26 11:58:27 PM  

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In Texas that'll get you a DUI
 
2014-02-27 12:11:05 AM  
Better idea:  Ban rich people from having cars.  Make registration, fuel, and insurance free, paid by taxes on the wealthy.  But if you make enough to pay the car tax, you're not actually allowed to own one.  You can either take public transportation, or pay someone a living wage to drive you around.
 
2014-02-27 01:27:36 AM  
Something else that has been proposed in The People's Republic of Kalifornia is an additional 45 cent state gas tax.
You know, for the environment.
The party that is supposed to be an advocate for the poor folks sure doesn't act like it.
 
hej
2014-02-27 01:34:23 AM  
STAY OUT OF DUBAI, LEBOWSKI!
 
2014-02-27 03:15:04 AM  
Sadness is for poor people, Cars are not.
www.boston.com
 
2014-02-27 05:01:23 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Don't give the Republicans any ideas, Dubai!


Hmm? Passing laws to make things too expensive for the poor is a very progressive activity.

Or is the goal of NYCs $10+ for a pack of cigarettes not to make them too costly for the poor?
 
2014-02-27 10:45:23 AM  
Make the emissions laws so strict that the standards MUST be equal to or exceed 2014 new car standards...in other words, that 10 year old car must be clean as a 2014 car with 0 miles on the odometer...and it is time to MANDATE all of the pre-1975 cars still out there get all of the modern smog equipment installed. A mandatory engine retrofit to 2014 standards must be done...because the pre-1975 cars still out there are the ones responsible for all of the smog we have out there. That is a fact.
 
2014-02-27 01:06:09 PM  

Frizbone: A mandatory engine retrofit to 2014 standards must be done...because the pre-1975 cars still out there are the ones responsible for all of the smog we have out there. That is a fact.


Yes. The seemingly endless parade of pre-1975 cars. You can't swing a cat without hitting one of
those damn things.
 
2014-02-27 01:33:34 PM  

gunther_bumpass: Frizbone: A mandatory engine retrofit to 2014 standards must be done...because the pre-1975 cars still out there are the ones responsible for all of the smog we have out there. That is a fact.

Yes. The seemingly endless parade of pre-1975 cars. You can't swing a cat without hitting one of
those damn things.


Meh, large damage * small amount == Most of the damage.

Just like Road engineers don't count cars when calculating road wear, because 1 truck does more damage than all the cars.
Or how beach fires were responsible for one third of the smog in LA (so they banned them).
 
2014-02-27 03:42:05 PM  

Headso: You gotta do it like states like MA do with car inspections that make it so a beater can't be legally driven on the road so you effectively make it so poor people can't own cars without actually coming out and saying it.


You mean requiring things like working headlights and directionals, and making sure that recent makes aren't throwing off clouds of Smog?

My 15 yo Pontiac just passed MA inspection without a problem. Keeping basic safety functions operational should be a requirement everywhere.
 
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