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2014-02-26 12:25:37 PM
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2014-02-26 12:27:20 PM
I give extra sausage. Bow chicka wow wow.
 
2014-02-26 12:27:55 PM
The same thing goes for most food deals actually.  The whole rack of ribs is cheaper than the half rack per rib.  The whole sub / hoagie is cheaper than the half sub.  The 32 oz drink is cheaper than the 12 oz drink, etc.  It doesn't really matter if you're going to waste the extra food however.  Since Pizza is still good cold or reheated, it's not really a problem, but with things like fries it is a problem since they are terrible after the grease cools.
 
2014-02-26 12:29:10 PM
It's almost as if there is a fixed amount that is required from each pizza that goes to overhead, wages, rent, electricity, water, etc., and the actual contents of the pizza are priced based on a $/lb basis and add those together and plot it out, you get the same exact chart.

If your intent is to eventually eat all the pizza, then yeah, go with the bigger one. But it's not a better deal if you aren't going to polish off most of it.
 
2014-02-26 12:31:56 PM
Because it feeds a guy like me for almost a week.  Duh.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:46 PM
How did everyone not already know this? I was surprised it was on an NPR link because they are usually a little smarter than this.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:51 PM
Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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2014-02-26 12:33:13 PM
No farking shiat.  Jesus farking christ does nobody remember anything from high school math?
 
2014-02-26 12:35:56 PM
That's why I order a truckload of pizzas.  Everyone knows you get a better deal that way!

/Area.  How does it work?
 
2014-02-26 12:37:09 PM
Except that businesses caught on to the fact that consumers already know this stuff, and raised the prices on the bigger products until the per-unit prices were almost at parity.  Then, shockingly, at some restaurants it inverted.

When I was a kid, which wasn't TOO long ago, the combo meal was basically worth a free drink compared to getting everything separately.  These days, a la carte is often cheaper, but people keep buying the combo out of convenience because "math is hard".  YMMV, of course, but at the local joints the bigger pizza hasn't felt like a better deal in a long time.  (The practice is far more egregious at burger joints.)

I used to be outraged, then I realized this was all just a symptom of the anti-intellectual movement America is embracing, and stopped caring altogether.  If you're getting screwed by choice, you're not a victim.
 
2014-02-26 12:40:30 PM
Or to reinterpret that infographic for us not math-minded liberal artsy types: LEFTOVERS
 
2014-02-26 12:43:31 PM

dragonchild: I used to be outraged, then I realized this was all just a symptom of the anti-intellectual movement America is embracing


but brawndos got electrolytes!

it's got what plants crave
 
2014-02-26 12:44:56 PM

MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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That poor skinny kid in the back is trying avoid those hippos in the picture.
 
2014-02-26 12:45:57 PM
How about the 1 reason not to get the bigger pizza?  FAT.
 
2014-02-26 12:47:12 PM

dragonchild: Except that businesses caught on to the fact that consumers already know this stuff, and raised the prices on the bigger products until the per-unit prices were almost at parity.  Then, shockingly, at some restaurants it inverted.

When I was a kid, which wasn't TOO long ago, the combo meal was basically worth a free drink compared to getting everything separately.  These days, a la carte is often cheaper, but people keep buying the combo out of convenience because "math is hard".  YMMV, of course, but at the local joints the bigger pizza hasn't felt like a better deal in a long time.  (The practice is far more egregious at burger joints.)

I used to be outraged, then I realized this was all just a symptom of the anti-intellectual movement America is embracing, and stopped caring altogether.  If you're getting screwed by choice, you're not a victim.


However, this still usually works for pizzerias (if you actually read the article, they actually surveyed a ton of them, comparing prices to the amount of pizza you got).

Heck, Pizza Hut and maybe some other places sometimes does a "any pizza for ten bucks" type deal; obviously you then order an extra large.
 
2014-02-26 12:47:14 PM

MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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is that ranch dressing?  i....umm.....WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??
 
2014-02-26 12:48:21 PM

JusticeandIndependence: How about the 1 reason not to get the bigger pizza?  FAT.


Pizza in particular is perfect leftovers.  It'll keep for a couple days at least; just have the leftovers for lunch the next day.
 
2014-02-26 12:54:31 PM
So what you're saying is that the larger item is the better deal? Yeah, people have known this for years. Whether it's a 2-liter soda over a 12 oz can, a large pizza over a small, a gallon of mayonnaise over a pint, barring a sale, or a weirdly priced item, as the size goes up, the price per portion goes down.

But thanks NPR.
 
2014-02-26 12:58:10 PM
I guess I'm the only person who doesn't like left over pizza. First off, cold pizza is disgusting, once in a while I'll reheat a slice or two, but leftover usually get tossed out.
 
2014-02-26 12:58:17 PM
If unit price were my only concern, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be ordering pizza in the first place.
 
2014-02-26 01:01:17 PM
Cold pizza and beer: breakfast of champions!
 
2014-02-26 01:02:41 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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is that ranch dressing?  i....umm.....WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??


I... hadn't even noticed that.
She seems very enthusiastic about it too.
 
2014-02-26 01:05:56 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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is that ranch dressing?  i....umm.....WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??


Alabama
 
2014-02-26 01:06:06 PM

MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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The woman in that picture looks like she could demonstrate the inverse square law with her own gravitational field.
 
2014-02-26 01:06:28 PM

MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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She's opening a bottle of ranch! SHE'S OPENING A BOTTLE OF RANCH! This overinflated balloon animal buffalo is about to dip her pizza in mayonnaise-based sauce!
 
2014-02-26 01:06:33 PM
the pizza place can use the same amount of dough and just stretch it to a larger diameter. didn't a little caesars employee have a video about what a pain it was to use a dough designed for a smaller pizza to fit that 'bigger' square box pizza they had.
 
2014-02-26 01:08:26 PM

kidgenius: It's almost as if there is a fixed amount that is required from each pizza that goes to overhead, wages, rent, electricity, water, etc., and the actual contents of the pizza are priced based on a $/lb basis and add those together and plot it out, you get the same exact chart.

If your intent is to eventually eat all the pizza, then yeah, go with the bigger one. But it's not a better deal if you aren't going to polish off most of it.


I like that you started the post snarkily blasting the obvious, then followed it with "if you don't eat the food you buy, you shouldn't buy it" :)
 
2014-02-26 01:08:36 PM

ReapTheChaos: I guess I'm the only person who doesn't like left over pizza. First off, cold pizza is disgusting, once in a while I'll reheat a slice or two, but leftover usually get tossed out.


You are clearly a communist. Let your head be stripped of all but two hairs, your possessions be sold to the lowest bidder, your spouse rent to pieces in your sight, your children sold off into bondage, your family name removed from all public records, and the earth salted where any of your former residences once stood.

Cold pizza is second only to fresh-from-the-oven pizza.

// unless we're talking chain pizza, which can't really be helped
 
2014-02-26 01:12:08 PM

Mikey1969: So what you're saying is that the larger item is the better deal? Yeah, people have known this for years. Whether it's a 2-liter soda over a 12 oz can, a large pizza over a small, a gallon of mayonnaise over a pint, barring a sale, or a weirdly priced item, as the size goes up, the price per portion goes down.

But thanks NPR.


You might be surprised.  Various grocery stores have caught on to this and you may find that the superior price point changes from time to time. I learned that on an NPR story too :P

They found that some weeks a general mills large box of cereal was more expensive per ounce than the smaller size, and that at other times the very same product had the opposite, with the bigger one being cheaper.

The study didn't conclude whether they did this to take advantage of the common knowledge that bigger was cheaper, or whether they had smaller boxes that weren't selling before their time and thus needed to be priced to sell.
 
2014-02-26 01:12:47 PM

dragonchild: When I was a kid, which wasn't TOO long ago, the combo meal was basically worth a free drink compared to getting everything separately. These days, a la carte is often cheaper, but people keep buying the combo out of convenience because "math is hard". YMMV, of course, but at the local joints the bigger pizza hasn't felt like a better deal in a long time. (The practice is far more egregious at burger joints.)


When I was living in SE Asia, I would routinely see people at the grocery checkout with carts full of tiny little packages of things, instead of the Jumbo Packs that were on the shelves.  It confused me, until I stopped and did a little division and discovered that the big packs were actually more expensive per unit.  Seems counter-intuitive, but I'm sure there was a cost-analysis reason for it.
 
2014-02-26 01:15:32 PM

pkellmey: How did everyone not already know this? I was surprised it was on an NPR link because they are usually a little smarter than this.


Now they're under scrutiny from teabaggers they need to provide lifestyle tips which will apply to your normal teabagger.
 
2014-02-26 01:18:15 PM
Several things: it is true, but it is not because the pizza guy is bad at math and does not know how much pizza he is giving you when you buy a large. There are more to the size of a pizza than the amount of ingredient. As a general rule, price of a fast food is 1/4th labor cost, 1/4th fees and taxes and electricity and stuff, 1/4th material cost and 1/4th profit (this is a general rule from my experience).

Now look at a small vs large pizza. Off the 3 type of costs, only the ingredient cost changes, other two remains the same. Profit will vary too, but the point is, 50% of the cost remains exactly the same. So, it is true for all foods, all the time, buying larger will cost relatively less.

I'm not sure, why we'd need an article for that.
 
2014-02-26 01:21:11 PM

kidgenius: It's almost as if there is a fixed amount that is required from each pizza that goes to overhead, wages, rent, electricity, water, etc., and the actual contents of the pizza are priced based on a $/lb basis and add those together and plot it out, you get the same exact chart.

If your intent is to eventually eat all the pizza, then yeah, go with the bigger one. But it's not a better deal if you aren't going to polish off most of it.


There is another downside of buying the large pizza (specially true for pizza), larger portion will make you eat more. For a fat place like America, this can be a real issue. You save 30 cents on the pizza, then spend $300 on doctors' bills in the long run.
 
2014-02-26 01:24:08 PM

Z-clipped: dragonchild: When I was a kid, which wasn't TOO long ago, the combo meal was basically worth a free drink compared to getting everything separately. These days, a la carte is often cheaper, but people keep buying the combo out of convenience because "math is hard". YMMV, of course, but at the local joints the bigger pizza hasn't felt like a better deal in a long time. (The practice is far more egregious at burger joints.)

When I was living in SE Asia, I would routinely see people at the grocery checkout with carts full of tiny little packages of things, instead of the Jumbo Packs that were on the shelves.  It confused me, until I stopped and did a little division and discovered that the big packs were actually more expensive per unit.  Seems counter-intuitive, but I'm sure there was a cost-analysis reason for it.


In the United States, per-unit pricing is required on all grocery items(they aren't required to put it in a very large font, however).
 
2014-02-26 01:28:50 PM
I'm disappointed the analysis did not include crust factor.

The crust does not scale with the pizza size, so the percentage of non-crust area increases as the radius increases.
 
2014-02-26 01:29:07 PM

JusticeandIndependence: MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

[img.fark.net image 800x479]

That poor skinny kid in the back is trying avoid those hippos in the picture.


actually he was just passing buy and got caught in their gravitational pull... he is now the moon of a moon
 
2014-02-26 01:32:17 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

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is that ranch dressing?  i....umm.....WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??


Ranch dressing on pepperoni pizza was huge when I was in highschool about a dozen years ago. Kids would stand in line and get their pepperoni pizza and then walk over to the dressing push dispensers things and douse the pizza with ranch.

It's tasty, if you don't use too much ranch, but not something I'd want to do very often.

/The Japanese like mayonnaise on their pizza.
 
2014-02-26 01:33:04 PM

LesserEvil: I'm disappointed the analysis did not include crust factor.

The crust does not scale with the pizza size, so the percentage of non-crust area increases as the radius increases.


Depending on where you order from, this is a good thing. I've had some pretty shiatty crusts, including places that my friends raved about being high quality superb pizza options (I'm looking at you, new yorkers).
 
2014-02-26 01:33:50 PM

exick: She's opening a bottle of ranch! SHE'S OPENING A BOTTLE OF RANCH! This overinflated balloon animal buffalo is about to dip her pizza in mayonnaise-based sauce!


Don't be ridiculous, she's not gonna dip it.

She's getting a straw.
 
2014-02-26 01:34:50 PM

Shazam999: No farking shiat.  Jesus farking christ does nobody remember anything from high school math?


 I've never once thought about the area of a pizza with regards to its price, merely how hungry I was, whether I wanted leftovers, and other practical concerns.
 
2014-02-26 01:35:01 PM
Is this in New York or Chicago?
 
2014-02-26 01:35:11 PM
74,476 Reasons You Should Always Get The Bigger Pizza

Oh, for fark's sake, Buzzfeed!

/didn't read TFA.
 
2014-02-26 01:35:25 PM
Quoctrung Bui is apparently a complete moron if he needed an engineer to tell him this after he was all grown up. Should have realized this on his own or been taught it in geometry class when he was in middle-school... It is one of the best examples a teacher can give to help kids understand the impact of diameter on the area of a circle.
 
2014-02-26 01:36:44 PM

CtrlAltDestroy: RumsfeldsReplacement: MagicBoris: Chicks dig extra large pizzas anyway!

[img.fark.net image 800x479]

is that ranch dressing?  i....umm.....WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??

Ranch dressing on pepperoni pizza was huge when I was in highschool about a dozen years ago. Kids would stand in line and get their pepperoni pizza and then walk over to the dressing push dispensers things and douse the pizza with ranch.

It's tasty, if you don't use too much ranch, but not something I'd want to do very often.

/The Japanese like mayonnaise on their pizza.


Mexican friend of mine uses catsup
 
2014-02-26 01:41:07 PM

arentol: Quoctrung Bui is apparently a complete moron if he needed an engineer to tell him this after he was all grown up. Should have realized this on his own or been taught it in geometry class when he was in middle-school... It is one of the best examples a teacher can give to help kids understand the impact of diameter on the area of a circle.


I had to explain to a planner and an architect (that's 2 different people) that doubling the length and width of a square means you've quadrupled the area it contains. Using a pencil and paper.

// landscape architect, but it's not like "lw = A" is unknown to LAs
// and since the diameter of a circle is functionally equivalent to one edge of a square...
 
2014-02-26 01:44:07 PM

DarnoKonrad: Shazam999: No farking shiat.  Jesus farking christ does nobody remember anything from high school math?

 I've never once thought about the area of a pizza with regards to its price, merely how hungry I was, whether I wanted leftovers, and other practical concerns.


Yeah so if you want leftovers, then calculating the area of the pizza is useful eh?

Jesus it's 3.14 * r2 how hard is this to do in your head?
 
2014-02-26 01:45:58 PM

lake_huron: exick: She's opening a bottle of ranch! SHE'S OPENING A BOTTLE OF RANCH! This overinflated balloon animal buffalo is about to dip her pizza in mayonnaise-based sauce!

Don't be ridiculous, she's not gonna dip it.

She's getting a straw.


Nope, I guarantee that bottle got dumped all over that pizza.  Hell, that was probably the first of many.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:49 PM

Z-clipped: dragonchild: When I was a kid, which wasn't TOO long ago, the combo meal was basically worth a free drink compared to getting everything separately. These days, a la carte is often cheaper, but people keep buying the combo out of convenience because "math is hard". YMMV, of course, but at the local joints the bigger pizza hasn't felt like a better deal in a long time. (The practice is far more egregious at burger joints.)

When I was living in SE Asia, I would routinely see people at the grocery checkout with carts full of tiny little packages of things, instead of the Jumbo Packs that were on the shelves.  It confused me, until I stopped and did a little division and discovered that the big packs were actually more expensive per unit.  Seems counter-intuitive, but I'm sure there was a cost-analysis reason for it.


For some reason in this thread I'm hearing Apu say "Mrs. Simpson, the bigger box is the better deal not always."
 
2014-02-26 01:46:57 PM

fat boy: Mexican friend of mine uses catsup


That's farking nasty. Ketchup in general, I mean. I can't stand the stuff. I'm not big on tomato products in general. Tomato based pasta sauce, bloody mary's, ketchup, tomato soup, etc. Tomatoes are best sliced fresh. Cherry tomatoes are delicious when grilled as part of a kebab. I like pizza sauce. That's really about it.

I used to know a guy in middle school who would dissect his pizza slices. He's first peel off and eat the toppings and cheese. Then he'd use his fingers as a squeegee and scoop up all the sauce and lick it off his fingers. Then he'd eat the dough/crust. Damn that was unsettling to watch.

I used to know a guy in highscool that refused to eat any form of white sauce (mayo, ranch, alfredo etc) because he said it looked too much like baby batter. I think he was a bit defensive because he was either bi-curious or full blown closet. Never did find out one way or the other.
 
2014-02-26 01:47:52 PM
where is a 12 inch pizza and extra large?
 
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