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2014-02-26 12:59:58 PM  
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2014-02-26 01:19:55 PM  
Sweet.
 
2014-02-26 01:35:19 PM  
None of these things are in MY Bible.
 
2014-02-26 01:47:30 PM  
That's heavy.
 
2014-02-26 01:52:25 PM  
A comic that explains something easily should do it in one page, not require a lot of scrolling.
 
2014-02-26 01:52:41 PM  
comic is too long
 
2014-02-26 01:52:50 PM  
"Symmetry is the 'Queen' of Physics. Simply put, it means that no matter how you rotate or reflect the equations they should still end up looking the same (locally and globally)."


Incidentally, in case that one square-cut-pizza-hating freak finds his way into this thread, this also explains that pizza tastes the same whether you cut it radially or at right angles.
 
2014-02-26 01:54:03 PM  
Still better than Family Circle.
 
2014-02-26 01:55:20 PM  

stuhayes2010: A comic that explains something easily should do it in one page, not require a lot of scrolling.


Tell it to Siegel and Shuster.
 
2014-02-26 01:57:22 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: comic is too long


First world problems much?
 
2014-02-26 01:58:29 PM  
It's a hyphenated name, what's there to understand?
 
2014-02-26 02:16:50 PM  
They lost me about 2/3 of the way through.
 
2014-02-26 02:19:44 PM  

stuhayes2010: A comic that explains something easily should do it in one page, not require a lot of scrolling.


Contrabulous Flabtraption: comic is too long



Sorry kids, he just gave you a primer on the Higgs Boson in about 300 words and some pictures.  If that's too much for your attention span, you should go back to coloring books.  That WAS simple.
 
2014-02-26 02:31:37 PM  

Khellendros: stuhayes2010: A comic that explains something easily should do it in one page, not require a lot of scrolling.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: comic is too long


Sorry kids, he just gave you a primer on the Higgs Boson in about 300 words and some pictures.  If that's too much for your attention span, you should go back to coloring books.  That WAS simple.


I agree, and easier for laymen (or my kids, my go-to 'will this make sense' test subjects) to follow than the rather convoluted description of popular people in crowded rooms.
 
2014-02-26 02:37:46 PM  

Khellendros: stuhayes2010: A comic that explains something easily should do it in one page, not require a lot of scrolling.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: comic is too long


Sorry kids, he just gave you a primer on the Higgs Boson in about 300 words and some pictures.  If that's too much for your attention span, you should go back to coloring books.  That WAS simple.


So it's not simple anymore?
 
2014-02-26 02:41:07 PM  

Shazam999: Still better than Family Circle.


Ida Know
 
2014-02-26 02:41:11 PM  
Ennuipoet [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 01:35:19 PM


None of these things are in MY Bible.

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/ but your form of trolling and bigotry is proudly endorsed by fark, so carry on
 
2014-02-26 02:41:34 PM  

Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.


Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.
 
2014-02-26 02:43:18 PM  
And now people are saying that there is no THE Higgs boson but there are multiple ones, each with a different job.
 
2014-02-26 02:44:46 PM  
So far only retarded comments... I'll wait for the smart people to show up
 
2014-02-26 02:50:33 PM  
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/obvious
 
2014-02-26 02:53:00 PM  

Mikey1969: Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.

Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.


You should forgive me, it's what Jesus would do.
 
2014-02-26 02:55:20 PM  
Mikey1969

Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.

Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.

Which explains why a democrat house of representatives, a democrat senate and a democrat president bill clinton) killed the Superconducting Supercolider that would have given us this answer ~15 years ago and been a motivator for American school kids rather than Euro kids.
 
2014-02-26 02:55:31 PM  
The biggest problem is how the universe behaves is so entirely alien to the way we perceive it that trying to explain phenomena via metaphor always comes up short. Like explaining the expansion of the universe: most people hear about it and assume the universe is "expanding" due to the inertia of the Big Bang, but the way celestial bodies are spreading apart isn't things moving out from the center towards an edge but rather spreading out fairly equally like items floating in a basin if you added more water. Which is itself a terrible example: these objects are spreading across the surface whereas we're dealing with a 3D space, and instead of "water" the thing that seems to slowly be growing in the universe is... nothing. Trying to wrap your head around these things requires a lot of rejecting what we can observe about the universe with our own two eyes as not being relevant to what happens on a grand or microscopic scale.
 
2014-02-26 02:57:18 PM  
So why did the Higgs violate its own symmetry?
 
2014-02-26 03:01:04 PM  

Grungehamster: The biggest problem is how the universe behaves is so entirely alien to the way we perceive it that trying to explain phenomena via metaphor always comes up short. Like explaining the expansion of the universe: most people hear about it and assume the universe is "expanding" due to the inertia of the Big Bang, but the way celestial bodies are spreading apart isn't things moving out from the center towards an edge but rather spreading out fairly equally like items floating in a basin if you added more water. Which is itself a terrible example: these objects are spreading across the surface whereas we're dealing with a 3D space, and instead of "water" the thing that seems to slowly be growing in the universe is... nothing. Trying to wrap your head around these things requires a lot of rejecting what we can observe about the universe with our own two eyes as not being relevant to what happens on a grand or microscopic scale.


Topology breaks my noodle
 
2014-02-26 03:02:00 PM  

OnlyM3: Ennuipoet [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 01:35:19 PM


None of these things are in MY Bible.
[www.upl.co image 500x391]

/ but your form of trolling and bigotry is proudly endorsed by fark, so carry on


But snark isn't bigotry, and just because lots of Xians choose to be willfully ignorant doesn't mean the rest of us can't make fun of you them.
 
2014-02-26 03:03:00 PM  
It isn't a hard concept at all, science-folks just don't know how to communicate very well, are temperamentally opposed to metaphor which is incredibly important to the human process of understanding things, and typically too proud to admit Lib arts people can help them out with that failing.

Reality is a medium. Moving through a medium induces drag. Mass is the drag generated from movement through the medium of reality. The reason moving through a medium creates drag is because every medium is made of particles and, as you move through it, you bump into these particles causing friction. The "particle" which you contact, creating this friction, with regards to reality, is the Higgs Boson. It's as simple as that. The faster you move, the more HBs you collect. This is why mass increases with speed.
 
2014-02-26 03:03:09 PM  
Well that a pretty good summery but it still leave one blatantly obvious question...why were they on the Jordan/Israeli border.
 
2014-02-26 03:03:48 PM  

Ennuipoet: Mikey1969: Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.

Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.

You should forgive me, it's what Jesus would do.


I think it's recently been amended to 'What Would Ted Nugent Do?'.
 
2014-02-26 03:06:04 PM  

hawcian: So why did the Higgs violate its own symmetry?


Because you touch yourself.
 
2014-02-26 03:15:59 PM  

OnlyM3: Mikey1969

Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.

Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.
Which explains why a democrat house of representatives, a democrat senate and a democrat president bill clinton) killed the Superconducting Supercolider that would have given us this answer ~15 years ago and been a motivator for American school kids rather than Euro kids.


Can anyone tell me what the messenger particle is for derp?
 
2014-02-26 03:16:18 PM  
Mikey1969:

I think it's recently been amended to 'What Would Ted Nugent Do?'.

Ol' Ted would shiat his pants, and then attempt to become guardian of your 17-year-old daughter.
 
2014-02-26 03:19:37 PM  
Sounds a lot like dark matter to me. The math isn't working so we invent a fudge factor to fix it until we find whatever it is that we're missing.
 
2014-02-26 03:24:20 PM  

Heron: Reality is a medium. Moving through a medium induces drag. Mass is the drag generated from movement through the medium of reality. The reason moving through a medium creates drag is because every medium is made of particles and, as you move through it, you bump into these particles causing friction. The "particle" which you contact, creating this friction, with regards to reality, is the Higgs Boson. It's as simple as that. The faster you move, the more HBs you collect. This is why mass increases with speed.


From what I've read, that is entirely wrong and yet a good analogy. Physics is weird.
 
2014-02-26 03:29:22 PM  

millsapian87: OnlyM3: Ennuipoet [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 01:35:19 PM


None of these things are in MY Bible.
[www.upl.co image 500x391]

/ but your form of trolling and bigotry is proudly endorsed by fark, so carry on

But snark isn't bigotry, and just because lots of Xians choose to be willfully ignorant doesn't mean the rest of us can't make fun of you them.


The failing of this statement is so utterly reprehensible it shows you understand this issue about as well as I understand the Higgs-Boson reality thing science makers are speaking in the talky tube.


Most Christians (American Christians) aren't opposed to science. Though many of the loudest one seem to be.
Most Christians aren't willfully ignorant. There are a number of fear mongers at the top of the religious pyramid that have done  such a wonderful job over the past 40 years of equating science with intellectual superiority that these Christians don't want to associate with such people or concepts.
Most Christians are so on the fence about their faith, that they really don't care one way or the other, how the universe came to be.

Imagine how you feel about the Xians you seem to be familiar with - they feel the same way about you. The only way to resolve the issue (rather than stomping your foot and demanding they come over and talk to you, like the erudite plebians they are) is to meet them on common, polite ground, engage in civil conversation, and go from there.

I would love it if science bothered to make itself more accessible to Christians who weren't certain as to how they reconcile science with God by not making it about a 'one or the other' mentality and realize the existence of science is not a denunciation of the existence of God. Rather, express the fact that science does not suggest that God does, or doesn't exist - merely that they don't give credence to such existence because they can't prove it to be a fact.


/Rather devout Methodist who loves science (what little of it I can wrap my head around).
 
2014-02-26 03:33:23 PM  

SuperChuck: Sounds a lot like dark matter to me. The math isn't working so we invent a fudge factor to fix it until we find whatever it is that we're missing.


We found it - and what you're calling the "fudge factor" was correct.  This is not really any different than the discovery of the neutrino.  We found a gap in energies of particles that were disassembled.  We calculated the difference, and postulated what the particle would look like that would make up for the difference.  There might have been a dozen, but the theory only really needed one.  We went looking for it, and found it.  Experimentation followed theory, and it worked.

The higgs boson was a gap in the standard model.  We postulated what it would look like, formulated a reasonable explanation, and when hunting.  It took a multi billion dollar apparatus to find it, but presto, it's there.  This was how we discovered the modern model for the atom, figured out special relativity, and all sorts of other things.

We don't always observe the phenomena first.  Sometimes, you find it in the math, and have to look to see if the phenomena is out there.
 
2014-02-26 03:38:41 PM  

phaseolus: "Symmetry is the 'Queen' of Physics. Simply put, it means that no matter how you rotate or reflect the equations they should still end up looking the same (locally and globally)."


Incidentally, in case that one square-cut-pizza-hating freak finds his way into this thread, this also explains that pizza tastes the same whether you cut it radially or at right angles.


I cut my pizza into six slices since I'm not usually hungry enough to eat eight.
 
2014-02-26 03:53:33 PM  

bingo the psych-o: phaseolus: "Symmetry is the 'Queen' of Physics. Simply put, it means that no matter how you rotate or reflect the equations they should still end up looking the same (locally and globally)."


Incidentally, in case that one square-cut-pizza-hating freak finds his way into this thread, this also explains that pizza tastes the same whether you cut it radially or at right angles.

I cut my pizza into six slices since I'm not usually hungry enough to eat eight.


Six!? I can't eat more than two, I just cut the damn thing in half.
 
2014-02-26 03:57:18 PM  
INeedAName:
The failing of this statement is so utterly reprehensible it shows you understand this issue about as well as I understand the Higgs-Boson reality thing science makers are speaking in the talky tube.
[remainder of rant snipped]

I didn't say "most Xians", I said "lots of Xians".  Sadly those in the "lots" category seem to be getting elected and making public policy based on their willful ignorance.  Too many in the "most" category are silent.

I appreciate that you're a devout Methodist.  So's Don Wildmon.  You gotta admit he ain't doing a lot of good for your brand.

Finally, I'll just leave this here.  This is an ACTUAL TEST administered to fourth graders in some benighted "Christian" school in South Carolina.  To me this borders on child abuse, if it doesn't actually cross that line.  Sorry I pushed your buttons, but y'all have a LOT of work to do.

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2014-02-26 04:02:59 PM  

OnlyM3: Mikey1969

Ennuipoet: None of these things are in MY Bible.

Not only that, they used the word "theory".... This won't play well out in the sticks.
Which explains why a democrat house of representatives, a democrat senate and a democrat president bill clinton) killed the Superconducting Supercolider that would have given us this answer ~15 years ago and been a motivator for American school kids rather than Euro kids.


They did it because Texas didn't vote right. Then all the physicists we paperclipped after the fall of communism went to be quants on wall street. They ran the numbers that said the busts wouldn't happen, being blind to the reality of business cycles and idiot makets in the capitalist world.
 
2014-02-26 04:08:33 PM  

Boojum2k: Heron: Reality is a medium. Moving through a medium induces drag. Mass is the drag generated from movement through the medium of reality. The reason moving through a medium creates drag is because every medium is made of particles and, as you move through it, you bump into these particles causing friction. The "particle" which you contact, creating this friction, with regards to reality, is the Higgs Boson. It's as simple as that. The faster you move, the more HBs you collect. This is why mass increases with speed.

From what I've read, that is entirely wrong and yet a good analogy. Physics is weird.


I need to get swept for baryons...I pick them up warping space around me with my micro-gravity field.
 
2014-02-26 04:11:05 PM  

elchip: They lost me about 2/3 of the way through.


The universe as you understand it doesn't actually exist. It's just the side effect of interacting fields.
 
2014-02-26 04:12:40 PM  

TDBoedy: I need to get swept for baryons


Everything can be blamed on baryons. There's not a single source of trouble anywhere they aren't a part of.
 
2014-02-26 04:21:23 PM  

Diogenes: Can anyone tell me what the messenger particle is for derp?


The Bevon.
 
2014-02-26 04:22:12 PM  

Boojum2k: TDBoedy: I need to get swept for baryons

Everything can be blamed on baryons. There's not a single source of trouble anywhere they aren't a part of.


/quantum everything
 
2014-02-26 04:22:38 PM  

INeedAName: millsapian87: OnlyM3: Ennuipoet [TotalFark]
2014-02-26 01:35:19 PM


None of these things are in MY Bible.
[www.upl.co image 500x391]

/ but your form of trolling and bigotry is proudly endorsed by fark, so carry on

But snark isn't bigotry, and just because lots of Xians choose to be willfully ignorant doesn't mean the rest of us can't make fun of you them.

The failing of this statement is so utterly reprehensible it shows you understand this issue about as well as I understand the Higgs-Boson reality thing science makers are speaking in the talky tube.


Most Christians (American Christians) aren't opposed to science. Though many of the loudest one seem to be.
Most Christians aren't willfully ignorant. There are a number of fear mongers at the top of the religious pyramid that have done  such a wonderful job over the past 40 years of equating science with intellectual superiority that these Christians don't want to associate with such people or concepts.
Most Christians are so on the fence about their faith, that they really don't care one way or the other, how the universe came to be.

Imagine how you feel about the Xians you seem to be familiar with - they feel the same way about you. The only way to resolve the issue (rather than stomping your foot and demanding they come over and talk to you, like the erudite plebians they are) is to meet them on common, polite ground, engage in civil conversation, and go from there.

I would love it if science bothered to make itself more accessible to Christians who weren't certain as to how they reconcile science with God by not making it about a 'one or the other' mentality and realize the existence of science is not a denunciation of the existence of God. Rather, express the fact that science does not suggest that God does, or doesn't exist - merely that they don't give credence to such existence because they can't prove it to be a fact.


/Rather devout Methodist who loves science (what little of it I can wrap my head a ...


He said lots, not most.

And how can you accept science as a Christian when science shows there was no Garden of Eden, no Adam and Eve, no fall, nothing to be redeemed from, and no reason for Jesus' redemption, if he existed at all?
 
2014-02-26 05:07:26 PM  

Vodka Zombie: hawcian: So why did the Higgs violate its own symmetry?

Because you touch yourself.


I am the father of universes? What if I touch someone else?
 
2014-02-26 05:20:04 PM  

hawcian: So why did the Higgs violate its own symmetry?


The asymmetric state is the lower-energy state for it.  Early in the universe, the energy density was so high that the Higgs had no problem maintaining the high-energy symmetric state.  As things cooled, though, it couldn't maintain this energy level, so it dropped into its asymmetric, but low-energy, current state.  Essentially, the Higgs field has lower energy when it has a constant nonzero value than when it has a value of zero.  This is only possible for a scalar boson (that is, a particle with no spin), which is what makes the Higgs special.
 
2014-02-26 05:22:23 PM  

INeedAName: Most Christians (American Christians) aren't opposed to science. Though many of the loudest one seem to be.  Most Christians aren't willfully ignorant.


A recent Gallup poll would have me believe otherwise...

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