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2014-02-26 12:28:16 PM  
Hmmm, no Hero tag. Really?
 
2014-02-26 12:29:37 PM  
He should have brought a 24 pack for the whole class.
 
2014-02-26 12:29:49 PM  
Way to go school. Yet another case of over reacting and causing the kids not to trust you. You taught them the all important lesson that honesty is the worst idea at school. Yay zero tolerance!
 
2014-02-26 12:29:56 PM  
A Facebook page in support of the teenager has been started by friends of the family. After 24 hours of going online the page has close to 500 likes.


Likes and rewteets are not news.


/Well, they shouldn't be
 
2014-02-26 12:29:57 PM  
Lesson learned.
 
2014-02-26 12:30:28 PM  
Wow, the school administrators and teacher in question sound like horrible human beings. What's wrong with people like that.
 
2014-02-26 12:30:59 PM  
If the picture in TFA is to be believed, it was Coors. Expulsion is too good for him.
 
2014-02-26 12:31:21 PM  
FTA When he realized his mistake at school, Chaz gave the unopened beer to his teacher. But that teacher then reported it to the principal at Livingston High School, who suspended the boy for three days and then sent him to an alternative school for two months.
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Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty.



I'm sure he's learned his lesson.
 
2014-02-26 12:31:38 PM  
In this day and age it's best to teach your kid never to admit any wrongdoing of any kind ever, even if you are guilty, just lie even in the face of overwhelming evidence like you are a politician.
 
2014-02-26 12:31:43 PM  
First you drink the beer then admit it. Wimp.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:01 PM  
zero tolerance==administrators with zero brainpower
 
2014-02-26 12:32:28 PM  
Honest mistake. It was supposed to be breakfast!

And he'd have to bring two two-fours to have enough for the whole class nowadays.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:34 PM  
"Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?
 
2014-02-26 12:32:44 PM  
So it's at the point where I need to teach my children to lie and be deceitful, nice.

Will have to tell them if they ever accidentally bring a knife, a beer, or any other disallowed item to school, to NOT tell anyone and keep the dangerous item in their posession until they get home and we'll take care of it then.

Because the punishment for telling a teacher is the same as the punishment for concealing it, but at least by concealing it there's a good chance they'll avoid punishment.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:50 PM  

oukewldave: Lesson learned.


Never admit your crimes. Your parents lied to you.
 
2014-02-26 12:32:56 PM  
The only reason he was suspended is because it was Coors Light.  If it was good beer, the teacher would have pounded it and not said a word.  His parents should also receive prison time for buying that swill.

/Can I haz beer snob thread?
 
2014-02-26 12:33:10 PM  
Let me guess. The little dirt bag got popped with it, and said it was accidental. Typical--

*clicks*

...god damn it.
 
2014-02-26 12:34:16 PM  

5monkeys: Way to go school. Yet another case of over reacting and causing the kids not to trust you. You taught them the all important lesson that honesty is the worst idea at school. Yay zero tolerance!


Exactly.

But then again, it may not be a bad idea for a school to teach the lesson that you can't ever trust the powers that be if there's a chance you've done something that's against the rules. It doesn't matter why you did it or even if you did it, if you ever admit to possible guilt for anything then they'll nail your ass to the wall. Doesn't matter if it is school administrators or the cops.

Better to avoid them as much as possible... that way you never get hit for stupid crap that wasn't hurting anybody anyway.
 
2014-02-26 12:37:52 PM  

Kiwimann: Will have to tell them if they ever accidentally bring a knife, a beer, or any other disallowed item to school, to NOT tell anyone and keep the dangerous item in their posession until they get home and we'll take care of it then.

Because the punishment for telling a teacher is the same as the punishment for concealing it, but at least by concealing it there's a good chance they'll avoid punishment.


Bingo.

When I was in high school, one day I accidentally threw my pocketknife into my pants when I got ready... I usually carried it when I wasn't in school, but that morning I had a brain fart and grabbed it. I realized I had it when I got to school- if found out it wouldn't have resulted in anything too horrible (it was before all this dumbass zero tolerance stuff), but still would have meant at least a few detentions, if not a couple days suspension.

So I buried the farker in my backpack and told nobody. Then took it out when I got home. It made for a stressful day as I went out of my way to avoid anybody seeing in that part of my backpack, but nobody was hurt, I wasn't caught, there were no consequences. Nowadays getting busted with that would probably be a 30 day suspension.
 
2014-02-26 12:38:15 PM  
"The principal of Livingston High School followed appropriate LISD administrative procedures and protocol."

So, if all of the rules are written so that they allow no flexibility or review by circumstance, then why do we need school administrators? Hire a handful of cops. They are good at applying the law to the letter.
 
2014-02-26 12:38:18 PM  
Punishment is right. I've never accidentally picked up something that was sitting right next to something else that looked nearly identical.


/yes i have
 
2014-02-26 12:39:43 PM  
Good to see these zero tolerance policies are weeding out all these bad apples. There's really no place in society for people who drink Coors light.
 
2014-02-26 12:40:41 PM  

Bslim: "Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?


Being honest is 'authoritarian bootlicking'?
 
2014-02-26 12:41:48 PM  
These people need a good tagline.  Might I suggest-

Zero Tolerance!  Making Sure No Good Deed Goes Unpunished!
 
2014-02-26 12:42:05 PM  

Rindred: Punishment is right. I've never accidentally picked up something that was sitting right next to something else that looked nearly identical.


/yes i have


I want my beer back.
 
2014-02-26 12:42:48 PM  
They said he brought a beer to school, but all I see was a picture of Coors Light.
 
2014-02-26 12:44:18 PM  
Why not report the teacher and principal's names too? Publish their work phone numbers and email addresses.
 
2014-02-26 12:46:04 PM  
CSB:

I did this once packing my lunch for work.  Amazing how when half asleep at 4am, a bottle of my favorite root beer looks much like a bottle of beer.

Of course, I'm an adult, and just kept it in my lunchbag and took it back home.

/CSB

stupid school is stupid
 
2014-02-26 12:47:29 PM  

kroonermanblack: Bslim: "Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?

Being honest is 'authoritarian bootlicking'?


But honesty is not what this lady is talking about, at all. She might call it that. What she's really talking about is unquestioning respect for "the rules"
 
2014-02-26 12:49:14 PM  

Bslim: kroonermanblack: Bslim: "Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?

Being honest is 'authoritarian bootlicking'?

But honesty is not what this lady is talking about, at all. She might call it that. What she's really talking about is unquestioning respect for "the rules"


Got it.

Bye now.
 
2014-02-26 12:49:52 PM  
He brought Coors Light? What's wrong with bringing water?
 
2014-02-26 12:51:12 PM  

oukewldave: Lesson learned.


Yep ask to go to the restroom and secretly drink it. Problem solved and you feel better for the next half hour lol.

I once got dragged into the principals office for drinking a beer at lunch. That is, a root beer that looked like it was in a beer bottle. Principal insisted I dump it out. (IT SAID ROOT BEER RIGHT ON THE LABEL) The dipshiat even smelled it and still insisted I dump it. Those things weren't cheap either. School Administrator freakouts arent new folks. Theyre just publicized wrong.
 
2014-02-26 12:52:23 PM  
Honesty is the best policy; it's just not school policy.
 
2014-02-26 12:53:23 PM  
He deserved to be kicked out if he's too stupid to tell the difference between cans... like seriously here... I could be half-asleep and there is NO way in hell, since the days that I've been 3 year old and able to tell difference between colours that I wouldn't know what the hell I'm grabbing out of a fridge, even if running late.
 
2014-02-26 12:53:37 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Bslim: kroonermanblack: Bslim: "Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?

Being honest is 'authoritarian bootlicking'?

But honesty is not what this lady is talking about, at all. She might call it that. What she's really talking about is unquestioning respect for "the rules"

Got it.

Bye now.


Oh I'm not going anywhere. But thanks for the sentiment.
 
2014-02-26 12:54:52 PM  
I am sort of torn here. It is idiotic to punish the kid for being honest. But then again, his name is Chaz so he should be expelled.
 
2014-02-26 12:55:01 PM  
If my parents named me Chaz I would have started drinking when I was 12.
 
2014-02-26 12:55:12 PM  

Bslim: kroonermanblack: Bslim: "Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty"

Hahahaha, beautiful. How's that authoritarian bootlicking working out, lady?

Being honest is 'authoritarian bootlicking'?

But honesty is not what this lady is talking about, at all. She might call it that. What she's really talking about is unquestioning respect for "the rules"


Exactly. Nobody asked if he had a beer, so it would not have been dishonest to keep his mouth shut about it. Now he needs to learn that snitches get stitches.
 
2014-02-26 12:55:27 PM  
Heh. Reminds me of the time in fourth grade where I accidentally filled my thermos from the pitcher of Mimosas left over from my parent's party the night before instead of the pitcher of orange juice.

I couldn't figure out how the orange juice 'went bad' so fast...
 
2014-02-26 12:56:03 PM  
I wouldn't consider a Coors light to be a beer.
 
2014-02-26 12:59:26 PM  
• Having beer in the household is very common.  It does NOT always mean the kid drinks it, or even likes it.

• If I had a dollar for every time I accidentally grabbed the wrong can/bag/phone etc... or maybe it's just me.

• Common Sense and Public Schools will never meet and be friends.
 
2014-02-26 12:59:38 PM  

imfallen_angel: He deserved to be kicked out if he's too stupid to tell the difference between cans... like seriously here... I could be half-asleep and there is NO way in hell, since the days that I've been 3 year old and able to tell difference between colours that I wouldn't know what the hell I'm grabbing out of a fridge, even if running late.


matchstic.com  gaia.adage.com
 
2014-02-26 12:59:48 PM  

H31N0US: Why not report the teacher and principal's names too? Publish their work phone numbers and email addresses.


I'm sure that the principal's name and contact info would be trivially easy to find.

Posting it on fark would probably be a trivially easy way to get banned, though.
 
2014-02-26 01:00:11 PM  

brantgoose: Honest mistake. It was supposed to be breakfast!

And he'd have to bring two two-fours to have enough for the whole class nowadays.


It was dessert. The beer he had for breakfast wasnt' bad, so he brought one more dessert.
 
2014-02-26 01:02:04 PM  
Good luck Chaz. We are all behind you.
wonkroom.thinkprogress.org
 
2014-02-26 01:02:04 PM  
Dang it, now this thread makes me want a beer and it's only noon.  Lunch beer, anyone?  I'll buy.
 
2014-02-26 01:03:07 PM  

generallyso: FTA When he realized his mistake at school, Chaz gave the unopened beer to his teacher. But that teacher then reported it to the principal at Livingston High School, who suspended the boy for three days and then sent him to an alternative school for two months.
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Seale says the punishment is excessive. She says she always taught her son to be honest and forthright and now he has to pay a price for that honesty.


I'm sure he's learned his lesson.


You know, I'm really, really trying to teach MY son about honesty, and that it's the best policy.  I think I'm changing my mind.
 
2014-02-26 01:05:23 PM  
A Texas mother says her son made an honest mistake while packing his school lunch bag, but now that mistake is costing him dearly.

Well, being honest doesn't and shouldn't absolve you of the consequences.  He violated the school's alcohol policy.  So you tell him, look son, I'm proud of you for telling the truth but you have to be more careful in the future.  You should think about that during your detention.

who suspended the boy for three days and then sent him to an alternative school for two months.

WAIT, WTF?
 
2014-02-26 01:05:23 PM  
I'll admit that I "accidently" packed a beer or six for lunch today.
 
2014-02-26 01:05:31 PM  
I did this EXACT thing in high school (graduated in 2000)
We had all those 'Zero Tolerance' policies in place as well.

I was like 'Woops' gave it to one of the teachers, exactly as this kid did. Teach bought me a regular soda 'for my honesty' I'm not sure what happened to the beer but I'm pretty sure he just drank it later.
 
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