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(Politico)   To all you cynics who say there's been little difference between Bush and Obama, suck on this - when Obama took office all those thieving Bush cronies from Goldman Sachs were shown the door in favor of noble public servants from Citibank   (politico.com) divider line 55
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2014-02-26 01:58:01 PM  
And this after Obama took quite a bit of money from Goldman Sachs.
 
2014-02-26 02:01:12 PM  
I understand they both shiat in the Whitehouse toilet as well.
 
2014-02-26 02:01:46 PM  
This is my shocked face.... :/

How is this surprising to anyone? Still never voting for the GOP evar, so there's that.
 
2014-02-26 02:05:28 PM  
It really does not matter who is in the office. Banks and big business has bought the US government. This will never change and the people who profit off of it will keep it that way.
 
2014-02-26 02:06:23 PM  
...so vote Republican?
 
2014-02-26 02:09:04 PM  
Civil servants. Public servants are elected.
 
2014-02-26 02:10:35 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-26 02:22:58 PM  
Oh this thread will be good.
 
2014-02-26 02:25:20 PM  

machoprogrammer: Oh this thread will be good.


Yeah I already tossed some chum out for the potato heads. You're welcome.
 
2014-02-26 02:25:58 PM  
I'd rather deal with the Galactic Empire than with Goldman Sachs. Lloyd Blankfein is a villain of Bond villain proportions.

www.culturevixen.com 4.bp.blogspot.com
 
wee
2014-02-26 02:32:38 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

Drone strikes are up this year!
 
2014-02-26 02:38:30 PM  
I love how the Left is constantly reminded that President Obama is a politician... as if that was something foreign in our thoughts.

Maybe this blatantly obvious information is more directed towards the herds of Conservatives who believe him to be a Messiah.
 
2014-02-26 02:41:24 PM  
Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

alineofsight.com

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.
 
2014-02-26 02:44:26 PM  

Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


static1.fjcdn.com
 
2014-02-26 02:46:19 PM  
ScaryBottles:

[static1.fjcdn.com image 576x792]

A cogent reply!
 
2014-02-26 02:46:46 PM  
While this is not exactly a great situation, when you're thinking about appointing a Treasury Secretary you'd probably want someone with lots of experience with the extremely complicated US financial system, and pretty much the only place to get that experience is by working in private sector finance for a long time.
 
2014-02-26 02:49:18 PM  

Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


Did you even look at that table before posting it?
 
2014-02-26 02:50:05 PM  

Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead? Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


Shadow governments don't have elections, where's your god now?
 
2014-02-26 02:50:13 PM  

Deftoons: ScaryBottles:

[static1.fjcdn.com image 576x792]

A cogent reply!


Its better than you deserve.
 
2014-02-26 02:52:45 PM  

Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.
 
2014-02-26 02:53:28 PM  

Deftoons: maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


What reforms would you suggest? Also, why are we assuming that an independent/third party would act differently?
 
2014-02-26 02:54:43 PM  

clkeagle: Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.


Oh yeah well I'll just start my own political party! With Blackjack and Hookers!
 
2014-02-26 02:58:15 PM  

Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


THIS...
 
2014-02-26 02:59:56 PM  

Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...


Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.
 
2014-02-26 03:00:47 PM  

Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...


Wow this thread is going all RON PAUL! lookalike contest like wicked fast.
 
2014-02-26 03:06:11 PM  

ScaryBottles: clkeagle: Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.

Oh yeah well I'll just start my own political party! With Blackjack and Hookers!


In fact, forget the political party!
 
2014-02-26 03:12:25 PM  

qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.


Well it starts with a Constitutional amendment so it should be easy to get off the ground. I don't know why we haven't done it already.
 
2014-02-26 03:17:37 PM  

ScaryBottles: clkeagle: Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.

Oh yeah well I'll just start my own political party! With Blackjack and Hookers!


Well...
www.gunsanddopeparty.com

Public only financing & absolute transparency of all lobbying (can't kill the wink & nod but K street would have to find new renters) would attract an entirely different `class' of individuals into public service (and some `public service' might actually be accomplished - not spending majority of time whoring for the next campaign).
 
2014-02-26 03:19:19 PM  
Well they are cousins.
 
2014-02-26 03:20:16 PM  

odinsposse: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

Well it starts with a Constitutional amendment so it should be easy to get off the ground. I don't know why we haven't done it already.


Man you libertarians are like somehing out of a sitcom yo. Seriously I can smell the neck beards in this thread from the geek tab. Do you guys really think that you are the first to think WASHINGTON BAD! EAT LAWS! We tried it your way remember guys.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation

It didn't work.
 
2014-02-26 03:21:46 PM  

qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.


I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.
 
2014-02-26 03:24:26 PM  

ScaryBottles: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.


[alineofsight.com image 345x382]


I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.


THIS...


Wow this thread is going all RON PAUL! lookalike contest like wicked fast.




img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 03:24:45 PM  

Deftoons: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.


As soon as we're done with that we can take turns trying to climb the beanstalk to see who gets the golden goose. Sounds like fun I'm in.
 
2014-02-26 03:28:34 PM  

Leishu: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Did you even look at that table before posting it?


Did you read any of the linked articles before replying?
 
2014-02-26 03:29:53 PM  

Deftoons: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.


Yeah, those are some good ideas, IRV especially. In my opinion, instant-runoff voting would have the most immediate effect, as it would almost entirely remove the problem of regretfully voting for your second choice because your first choice can't win.
 
2014-02-26 03:33:58 PM  

Deftoons: Leishu: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Did you even look at that table before posting it?

Did you read any of the linked articles before replying?


Considering the quality of the table, I felt it prudent to assume that everything else in the post was of similar quality.

Can I correctly state that you still have no idea what was wrong with it, then?
 
2014-02-26 03:38:09 PM  

qorkfiend: Deftoons: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.

Yeah, those are some good ideas, IRV especially. In my opinion, instant-runoff voting would have the most immediate effect, as it would almost entirely remove the problem of regretfully voting for your second choice because your first choice can't win.


You do realize of course that while you actually want to discuss reasonable reforms to our elections process, he's just giving a reach around to the old "both sides are bad" schtick.
 
2014-02-26 03:38:42 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 03:40:02 PM  

ScaryBottles: You do realize of course that while you actually want to discuss reasonable reforms to our elections process, he's just giving a reach around to the old "both sides are bad" schtick.


I wouldn't give him credit for the metaanalysis that is required for a convincing "both sides are bad."
 
2014-02-26 03:42:44 PM  
not sure why you'd expect anything different in America, we live a $ based existence.

and just you try and change it, I dare ya.
 
2014-02-26 03:51:32 PM  

Leishu: Deftoons: Leishu: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Did you even look at that table before posting it?

Did you read any of the linked articles before replying?

Considering the quality of the table, I felt it prudent to assume that everything else in the post was of similar quality.


Thanks for answering my question.  I'd advise reading those articles when you can.

As for the graph, I'm aware it's rough so I'm sure it's not 100% accurate but that doesn't lessen the point that the wealth gap has not changed for the better - nor for the correct reasons - under Obama as some have originally hoped and dreamed for.

Simply put, power corrupts. Obama was elected President with little experience in the Senate, yet looked how quickly his administration got entangled in a corrupt web, and his policies (read: green subsidies, to name one), have contributed towards the wealthy under the guise of it helping out the working man.
 
2014-02-26 03:54:51 PM  

Deftoons: Leishu: Deftoons: Leishu: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Did you even look at that table before posting it?

Did you read any of the linked articles before replying?

Considering the quality of the table, I felt it prudent to assume that everything else in the post was of similar quality.

Thanks for answering my question.  I'd advise reading those articles when you can.

As for the graph, I'm aware it's rough so I'm sure it's not 100% accurate but that doesn't lessen the point that the wealth gap has not changed for the better - nor for the correct reasons - under Obama as some have originally hoped and dreamed for.

Simply put, power corrupts. Obama was elected President with little experience in the Senate, yet looked how quickly his administration got entangled in a corrupt web, and his policies (read: green subsidies, to name one), have contributed towards the wealthy under the guise of it helping out the working man.


Dude if you get any more butthurt and you're gonna burst into flame.
 
2014-02-26 03:55:29 PM  

ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: Deftoons: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.

Yeah, those are some good ideas, IRV especially. In my opinion, instant-runoff voting would have the most immediate effect, as it would almost entirely remove the problem of regretfully voting for your second choice because your first choice can't win.

You do realize of course that while you actually want to discuss reasonable reforms to our elections process, he's just giving a reach around to the old "both sides are bad" schtick.


While I don't believe that both sides are bad, I think that our political system would benefit from increased participation and a weakening of the two-party system, and most of these ideas work towards that goal.
 
2014-02-26 03:57:15 PM  

qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: Deftoons: qorkfiend: Bartman66: Deftoons: Obama's Policies Have Helped Wall St. Fat Cats.

Income Equality Worse Under Obama than George W. Bush.

[alineofsight.com image 345x382]

I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

THIS...

Great. Let's hear some details on this reform plan.

I think misuse of a government office by favoring donors who seek government contracts and services should be illegal. I know there are some  laws already in place to prosecute such abuses.  The problem is they are not being enforced well.

I also think we need to eliminate or lower the signature requirements for candidates to be on the ballot.  Yes, I'm aware that could spawn 20 different choices for a state senator, Governor or President.  I am fine with that.  I think it's a necessary evil.

Implement Instant Runoff Votingfor all national-level elections, if not all elected positions.

End all government-funded primary elections and national parties for the big two, including erasing that insulting "president elect fund" box on the tax form.

Those are some ideas, to start with.

Yeah, those are some good ideas, IRV especially. In my opinion, instant-runoff voting would have the most immediate effect, as it would almost entirely remove the problem of regretfully voting for your second choice because your first choice can't win.

You do realize of course that while you actually want to discuss reasonable reforms to our elections process, he's just giving a reach around to the old "both sides are bad" schtick.

While I don't believe that both sides are bad, I think that our political system would benefit from increased participation and a weakening of the two-party system, and most of these ideas work towards that goal.


Its not you I'm taking exception to.
 
2014-02-26 04:21:43 PM  
The majority of the folks in the Obama administration from Citi all went to Citi from the Clinton Administration with Clinton's treasury secretary. I'm having a hard time getting bent out of shape about it. Economists have to work, even when the guy in the White House has the wrong letter next to his name. If they'd all been at Citi for 20-30 years, it'd be slightly different.
 
2014-02-26 04:22:04 PM  

clkeagle: Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.


I've been saying that all of my life. Require networks and major newspapers to give the candidates equal time to explain their positions, have a series of debates, and let the voters who pay attention decide.
 
2014-02-26 04:24:55 PM  

Pappas: The majority of the folks in the Obama administration from Citi all went to Citi from the Clinton Administration with Clinton's treasury secretary. I'm having a hard time getting bent out of shape about it. Economists have to work, even when the guy in the White House has the wrong letter next to his name. If they'd all been at Citi for 20-30 years, it'd be slightly different.


Rubin specifically convinced Chuck Prince to invest in the shady real estate loans - his former peers who resisted that idea were shiatcanned. As an employee, it killed what stock we had and genuinely farked the company over bigtime.
 
2014-02-26 04:31:04 PM  
randomjsa- And this after Obama took quite a bit of money from Goldman Sachs.

I think Obama has a terrible record on corporate reform, being tough on Wall Street,
and any meaningful bank reform. However, if your assertion is true- he put principle
and doing right over being bought and paid for- that is your claim I presume.

Then I respect him a little more. He is still a corporatist and corporations are still
far more dangerous, than big government, to representative democracy.
 
2014-02-26 04:32:16 PM  

happydude45: clkeagle: Deftoons: I don't know man, maybe we should start looking at reforming our election requirements mandate that all public elections use only public funding and vote for third parties / independents instead?  Kinda getting tired of this shiat.

Easiest way to fix the current mess and level the playing field for third party candidates.

I've been saying that all of my life. Require networks and major newspapers to give the candidates equal time to explain their positions, have a series of debates, and let the voters who pay attention decide.


That wouldn't work either, now. SuperPACs and other outside money people can put up all the ads they want making limits on the official campaign irrelevant.
 
2014-02-26 04:42:57 PM  
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