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(CNBC)   Paul Ryan announces GOP's fresh new ideas for growing the economy   (cnbc.com) divider line 169
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2014-02-26 09:23:50 AM
There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?
 
2014-02-26 09:28:44 AM
Let me guess... more tax cuts for the rich?
 
2014-02-26 09:41:00 AM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but...


Really? So, outside of the fact that he's managed to convince stupid people to vote for him, what has he shown to indicate that he's actually smart?

his ideas are unworkable
his math skills are terrible
he shows zero creativity
he shows zero originality

Did I miss one really smart thing? Hell, he attached his start to Mittens F*cking Romney. There is NO evidence he is smart.
 
2014-02-26 10:07:13 AM

dr_blasto: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but...

Really? So, outside of the fact that he's managed to convince stupid people to vote for him, what has he shown to indicate that he's actually smart?

his ideas are unworkable
his math skills are terrible
he shows zero creativity
he shows zero originality

Did I miss one really smart thing? Hell, he attached his start to Mittens F*cking Romney. There is NO evidence he is smart.


Ryan is better than Christie (according to Romney), so he has that going for him, which is nice.
 
2014-02-26 10:07:22 AM
I seem to recall something about the definition of insanity....
 
2014-02-26 10:08:08 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Let me guess... more tax cuts for the rich?


Yup.  39-ish% down to 25%.
 
2014-02-26 10:20:18 AM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man


This comment should stand alone as a shining monument to the level of world scale farkwittage that the internet has created.
 
2014-02-26 10:27:50 AM

Tigger: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man

This comment should stand alone as a shining monument to the level of world scale farkwittage that the internet has created.



Exactly.  Just because he hasn't said rape happens when girls listen to Miley Cyrus or evolution was sent to us by aliens who want to convince us global warming is real doesn't mean he's smart.
 
2014-02-26 10:31:04 AM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?


Ryan is what a Republican imagines a smart person looks like.  It is easy to appear to be an intellectual giant when you are surrounded by Australopitheci.
 
2014-02-26 10:45:06 AM

mrshowrules: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?

Ryan is what a Republican imagines a smart person looks like.  It is easy to appear to be an intellectual giant when you are surrounded by Australopitheci.


Ryan and Newt Gingrich. Two dumbasses that are held up as intellectual beacons of the crazy-ass right-wing nutter brigade.

The fact that these towering intellectuals* are considered "thinkers" and are frequently dragged out of whatever dungeon begets these shiatbags to prove somehow that the conservative ideology is valuable shows the complete intellectual bankruptcy of their movement.

*not meant to be a factual description
 
2014-02-26 10:45:30 AM
Trivia Jockey:   Just because he hasn't said rape happens when girls listen to Miley Cyrus

yo dude it would be helpful if you didn't push this point too hard. I literally have a case hinging on this and it isn't looking good for either me or Miley
 
2014-02-26 11:15:33 AM

Trivia Jockey: rape happens when girls listen to Miley Cyrus


Yeah. I can believe that.

Trivia Jockey: evolution was sent to us by aliens who want to convince us global warming is real


That sounds about right.
 
2014-02-26 11:47:14 AM
FTFA: In response, Ryan said: "I think the president is moving farther to the left."

The President hasn't moved, dumbass.  you just keep backing away from him.
 
2014-02-26 12:09:47 PM
Because it's worked so well in the past...

You want to cut taxes, then you make them targeted cuts. You encourage small businesses, and you reward folks who keep their operations in the US. This blanket thought process is just a scam to reward folks who are actively looking to avoid involvement in the US at all, but this is where their customers are, and damned if they like the idea of paying them more than some Bangladeshi street urchin to make shoes for pennies. If only we could just cut our wages to nothing, then everything would be fantastic, right? I mean, then folks wouldn't be able to afford the damn fruits of their labor, and property values would plummet, because damned if people could keep their homes, but the bottom line for folks who try to keep as much of themselves and their cash the Hells out of this economy would be great.

At some point, we need to ignore the blustering of vulture capitalists, and do something for the economy as a whole.
 
2014-02-26 12:12:37 PM
blogs.babble.com

Show me tax cuts!

*ding*
 
2014-02-26 12:17:59 PM
shiat, I had oppress minorities.
 
2014-02-26 12:19:55 PM

hubiestubert: Because it's worked so well in the past...

You want to cut taxes, then you make them targeted cuts. You encourage small businesses, and you reward folks who keep their operations in the US. This blanket thought process is just a scam to reward folks who are actively looking to avoid involvement in the US at all, but this is where their customers are, and damned if they like the idea of paying them more than some Bangladeshi street urchin to make shoes for pennies. If only we could just cut our wages to nothing, then everything would be fantastic, right? I mean, then folks wouldn't be able to afford the damn fruits of their labor, and property values would plummet, because damned if people could keep their homes, but the bottom line for folks who try to keep as much of themselves and their cash the Hells out of this economy would be great.

At some point, we need to ignore the blustering of vulture capitalists, and do something for the economy as a whole.


No, we need to do away with targeted anything. It needs to be as simple as possible, because people are simple. What is Bangledash? Is that some sort of rock band?  I don't know.

All laws should be less than 140 characters so congressmen can just tweet new legislation.


Let me give you an example:

Taxes:
HR 4000. Flat Tax. Repeal all taxes. Add new 15% sales tax.

See? Simple. Done. Everyone knows what it does. It's not complicated.

Healthcare:
HR 4001. New Healthcare Law. Repeal all healthcare laws.

Done. See how simple it would be?

I can do this all day.
 
2014-02-26 12:23:59 PM
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2014-02-26 12:24:00 PM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?


There's nothing but questions. Other than branding, there's actually no reason at all to attribute any intelligence to him at all.
 
2014-02-26 12:25:33 PM
Didn't read the article yet. Does it rhyme with "max butts"?
 
2014-02-26 12:25:56 PM

nmrsnr: [blogs.babble.com image 300x400]

Show me tax cuts!

*ding*


that made me laugh way harder than it should have.
 
2014-02-26 12:27:33 PM
How much additional tax revenue will these cuts generate? Enough to generate a net surplus and totally eliminate our national debt, I assume?
 
2014-02-26 12:27:51 PM
DNRTFA...

Does it rhyme with "Wax Sluts for the Stealthy"?
 
2014-02-26 12:28:15 PM

ManateeGag: FTFA: In response, Ryan said: "I think the president is moving farther to the left."

The President hasn't moved, dumbass.  you just keep backing away from him.


I also liked "have a progressive liberal president and Senate"

I lol'd.
 
2014-02-26 12:29:12 PM
The plan-detailed in The Washington Post earlier this week-would impose a 10 percent surtax on certain kinds of earned income over about $450,000 a year.

Specifically, it would be a surtax on the kinds of income that do no earn you more than $450,000 a year.
 
2014-02-26 12:33:12 PM
Tax cuts?

*clicks link*

Tax cuts....
 
2014-02-26 12:33:27 PM
Oh look, he's willing to tax earned income over $450K at a higher rate.

But stock market gains would still have a maximum rate of 18.5%  - taxing those any higher is just unpossible!

If Democrats had any balls, they'd propose treating earned and unearned income alike, with a cut to earned income rates to make it revenue neutral.  When Republicans object, point out that this is exactly what St. Reagan did in his 1986 tax reform (undone by Bush the Greater in '91).
 
2014-02-26 12:34:06 PM

enry: dr_blasto: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but...

Really? So, outside of the fact that he's managed to convince stupid people to vote for him, what has he shown to indicate that he's actually smart?

his ideas are unworkable
his math skills are terrible
he shows zero creativity
he shows zero originality

Did I miss one really smart thing? Hell, he attached his start to Mittens F*cking Romney. There is NO evidence he is smart.

Ryan is better than Christie (according to Romney), so he has that going for him, which is nice.


To be fair, he's better here in a sense to being a doormat yes man. Christie would be harder to control.
 
2014-02-26 12:35:30 PM
Paul Ryan is the feces created when idiocy feasts on punchability.
 
2014-02-26 12:36:09 PM
Who among his overlords is paying %40 in tax?
 
2014-02-26 12:36:11 PM
Was the obvious tag out job creatin'?
 
2014-02-26 12:36:14 PM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?


Ryan is a smart man?

He is a libertarian idealist -  that 's not "smart" - ok maybe I should say "Rational". He believe in an ideology and reality be damned.
 
2014-02-26 12:36:14 PM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but this "cutting taxes will create jobs" idea is pretty stupid. So the question is: does he really believe this crap or is he just playing to the crowd? Or is he pushing this as part of a separate agenda?


Yes, yes there is.  I have seen absolutely no evidence for this claim, despite people making it all the time.  IT's always framed as "he's smart, but this idea/policy is really stupid". But, you know, when every farking thing he proposes is mind-bendingly stupid, Occam's Razor say we should probably assume he really is that farking stupid.
 
2014-02-26 12:36:39 PM
The rich have more than enough money. Giving them more isn't going to suddenly spur their generosity
 
2014-02-26 12:37:11 PM

Tigger: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man

This comment should stand alone as a shining monument to the level of world scale farkwittage that the internet has created.


It's the new smart!
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 12:38:38 PM
FTFA:
Another hot-button issue dividing Democrats and Republicans is the president's push to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour from its current level of $7.25

The Congressional Budget Office estimated last week that such an increase could result in 500,000 lost jobs by late 2016.


Do people seriously not understand how to read the CBO reports and continue to parrot this bullshiat?
 
2014-02-26 12:38:45 PM

dr_blasto: Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man but...

Really? So, outside of the fact that he's managed to convince stupid people to vote for him, what has he shown to indicate that he's actually smart?

his ideas are unworkable
his math skills are terrible
he shows zero creativity
he shows zero originality

Did I miss one really smart thing? Hell, he attached his start to Mittens F*cking Romney. There is NO evidence he is smart.


Yes you did.

He ignores facts of reality and continues believing his ideology because it's something he wants to believe. - He is not rational
 
2014-02-26 12:39:25 PM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man


 lol wut?
 
2014-02-26 12:40:09 PM

Voiceofreason01: There's no question that Ryan is a smart man...


Man, that's an excellent example of a perfect setup. 10/10 my good fellow. Many replies. Wow. Such response.
 
2014-02-26 12:40:50 PM
The GOP focus on creating jobs just seems like Conservative Mad Libs.

___________  ___________ will create jobs.
(action verb)   (noun)
 
2014-02-26 12:40:52 PM

Sumatra7: Who among his overlords is paying %40 in tax?


Given that the top marginal income tax rate is 39.6% and the top short term capital gains tax rate is 35%, even before creative accounting, I'd venture "No one".
 
2014-02-26 12:41:14 PM

MisterRonbo: Oh look, he's willing to tax earned income over $450K at a higher rate.

But stock market gains would still have a maximum rate of 18.5%  - taxing those any higher is just unpossible!

If Democrats had any balls, they'd propose treating earned and unearned income alike, with a cut to earned income rates to make it revenue neutral.  When Republicans object, point out that this is exactly what St. Reagan did in his 1986 tax reform (undone by Bush the Greater in '91).


And take a play out of the Republican playbook: call it the Ronald Reagan Memorial Tax Policy Act. What Republican would risk having an opponent tell every mouth breather and goober back home that they opposed a bill written for Saint Reagan?
 
2014-02-26 12:41:34 PM
GOP continues their laser-like focus on increasing the deficit.
 
2014-02-26 12:41:43 PM
Who actually draws a payroll significantly over $450,000 / year?

The wealthy derive most of their income from investments, which are taxed at a much lower rate anyway, and anyone hovering around the $500k mark in earned income should end up doing the same fairly quickly.

Aside from a small number of celebrities, some financiers and a few elite lawyers, surgeons and anestheists there aren't many fields where your paycheck will hit $40k+ per month.
 
2014-02-26 12:42:16 PM

grumpfuff: ManateeGag: FTFA: In response, Ryan said: "I think the president is moving farther to the left."

The President hasn't moved, dumbass.  you just keep backing away from him.

I also liked "have a progressive liberal president and Senate"

I lol'd.


In their world liberal is a well crafted insult.  It would be the same a referring to Ryan as a conservative d____ss.
 
2014-02-26 12:42:23 PM
There's apparently a magical tax figure at which businesses will create jobs. There's no marginal improvement for lower taxes. Just a magical number. And we'll know it when we get there because businesses will suddenly start creating jobs.
 
2014-02-26 12:42:36 PM

Boba Chet: The GOP focus on creating jobs just seems like Conservative Mad Libs.

___________  ___________ will create jobs.
(action verb)   (noun)


f*cking poor people?
 
2014-02-26 12:42:46 PM
Autoplay videos should be launched into the sun, but when this one started with him saying "Just because we have a progressive liberal President in the Senate doesn't mean we should do nothing" I got laughing so hard that my omg-shut-it-off-immediately reflex was temporarily disabled.
 
2014-02-26 12:43:11 PM
Didn't we just lower taxes when Bush was president? Didn't that lead to the biggest loss of jobs and economic down turn since the great depression.
 
2014-02-26 12:43:15 PM
ooooh ooooh! F*cking chickens will create jobs!
 
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