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(Daily Mail)   Would you buy a $5,000 house? Granted, it's only 99 square feet, and you'd have to live in Madison, Wisconsin, but you really can't beat the price   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-02-26 01:37:59 PM  

uber humper: MBooda: Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
[tinyhouseblog.com image 542x442]

I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.


We still have some left over from frances and jeane. Also unused. Im thinking they may not be habitable anymore though.
 
2014-02-26 01:41:20 PM  

tlars699: The water was cold: I would have to be paid at least $50,000 (net) annually to live in Wisconsin (maximum two years)I like having 300+ days of Summer every year.

/ It's currently 76 degrees here, however, it's suppose to get down to a bone chilling 50 degrees Thursday night.

// I hope I can survive.

Most of us Wisconsinites like living in places where we can't be poisoned putting on our shoes in the morning. Or burn our feet walking to get the paper, because the sun was hitting the floor.


I have never burned my feet, even on the sand.  Unlike most beaches, walking barefoot is no problem here because we have white sand which reflects the heat.  But if you are so sensitive, slipping on flip-flops is much easier & quicker than putting on socks and lacing up shoes / boots for the few seconds it takes to go get the paper.  At least I shall always have ten toes - no frostbite here.
 
2014-02-26 01:43:53 PM  
Madison is an awesome town. I lived there last summer and was floored by how well they treat their homeless.  And they don't panhandle for the most part - they don't need to since Madison has such good services for them.  I also lived in Springfield MO, "the buckle of the bible belt" and they send their homeless out of town or they arrest them.  A perfect example of "What would Jesus do" - he would be a bleeding heart liberal who would help those in need.  Not the hand of law who make the homeless someone else's problem.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:10 PM  
What happens when a straight line wind or tornado blows through?  Can see those holding up too well.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:46 PM  
I came in here to properly adjust Subby's panties on Madison, but I see some of you have beat me to it.  Thanks for that.  Now when can we have a Madison Fark party?  I've never been, and I keep missing the ones in Chicago.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:47 PM  
Can't...stupid autocorrect
 
2014-02-26 01:46:59 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: uber humper: MBooda: Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
[tinyhouseblog.com image 542x442]

I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.

We still have some left over from frances and jeane. Also unused. Im thinking they may not be habitable anymore though.


If they had any leaks, I doubt they would be.  Remediation would cost more than they are worth. Apparantly, storing them is cheaper than trashing them.
 
2014-02-26 01:49:43 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: xanadian: While I applaud the idea, I can't help but wonder how many of them will get totally trashed in the span of 2 weeks.  What would be awesome is if they could build and keep those things someplace where there's mental health/addiction help facilities nearby.

This. Homelessness largely has nothing to do with lacking a home, per se. It's almost entirely a mental health problem.


I've seen two people on a forum I frequent often and know well, whom at some point said "well, looks like I'll be homeless".

Really, if you can't find a job, then you'll often loose your house. If you have dependants I gather the government will help you, but if you're single, you're farked.
 
2014-02-26 01:50:18 PM  

Molavian: phaseolus: I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.

That's funny.  I used to work at the Rent-A-Center in the Madison East Shopping Center, way back when.


Huh, didn't know my brother was on Fark.

Hi Dave!  *waves*
 
2014-02-26 01:53:28 PM  

blatz514: Molavian: phaseolus: I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.

That's funny.  I used to work at the Rent-A-Center in the Madison East Shopping Center, way back when.

Huh, didn't know my brother was on Fark.

Hi Dave!  *waves*


Hello, Phillip.
 
2014-02-26 01:57:24 PM  

desertmouse: I came in here to properly adjust Subby's panties on Madison, but I see some of you have beat me to it.  Thanks for that.  Now when can we have a Madison Fark party?  I've never been, and I keep missing the ones in Chicago.


Welcome to Cyan 2.

And yes, a Madison Fark party would frickin' rule!
 
2014-02-26 01:59:50 PM  
Used mobile homes for that price are 5x that size. That steep sloped roof and those fake shutters are frivolous junk. I think we can do better.
 
2014-02-26 02:04:23 PM  

Nightsweat: Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?


I do.  Golden Eagles. Though it, and even our previous offensive nickname, is better than being named after dirty, burrowing rodents.  Though it makes an odd kind of sense.

blatz514: I'll add, UW is located in a very nice part of town.  Marquette?  Not so much...


Marquette is a very safe campus.  You're thinking of a neighborhood a few blocks over.  Plus, we have diversity, where as Madison has to Photoshop in people of other ethnicities.  So, yeah, again, +1 Marquette.  In all ways superior.
 
2014-02-26 02:15:42 PM  

Pfighting Polish: Nightsweat: Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?

I do.  Golden Eagles. Though it, and even our previous offensive nickname, is better than being named after dirty, burrowing rodents.  Though it makes an odd kind of sense.

blatz514: I'll add, UW is located in a very nice part of town.  Marquette?  Not so much...

Marquette is a very safe campus.  You're thinking of a neighborhood a few blocks over.  Plus, we have diversity, where as Madison has to Photoshop in people of other ethnicities.  So, yeah, again, +1 Marquette.  In all ways superior.


Yes, I'm sure campus is safe.  But like you said, walk 2 or 3 blocks...not so nice.

Plus, Marquette lacks this:

photos.uc.wisc.edu
 
2014-02-26 02:18:42 PM  

stupiddream: gopher321: "There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?

I wonder how long before we heard about one of them burning down because someone tries to cook with a propane stove in one?


The current over/under is 36 hours, but that is actually for ALL of them to go up in flames.
 
2014-02-26 02:58:19 PM  

2headedboy: Madison is an awesome town. I lived there last summer and was floored by how well they treat their homeless.  And they don't panhandle for the most part - they don't need to since Madison has such good services for them.  I also lived in Springfield MO, "the buckle of the bible belt" and they send their homeless out of town or they arrest them.  A perfect example of "What would Jesus do" - he would be a bleeding heart liberal who would help those in need.  Not the hand of law who make the homeless someone else's problem.


No, see, that is the government doing that to the homeless. Just as it doesn't count as doing good if it is done through the government, so too does it not count as doing bad.  So as long as they have a half-assed soup kitchen or two, their charity requirements are covered.

Same goes for all the christians who demand secure borders and scream for additional penalties for foreigners.  I believe it was jesus who said, 'should a foreigner come to your land, imprison him long enough that he has nothing waiting for him at home, and then returnest him to where he belongs.'.
 
2014-02-26 02:59:05 PM  
We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.
 
2014-02-26 03:17:21 PM  
madison is an incredible city.  lived in an apartment on Langdon/Frances for a couple years, those were great years.
 
2014-02-26 03:20:54 PM  
So it's a trailer, but looks like a house.
 
2014-02-26 03:21:23 PM  

jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.


That's great. Now, once the organization buys these used trailers for the homeless, where should they locate them?
 
2014-02-26 03:29:59 PM  
I wouldn't mind a $5000 house in Madison, in that I've visited Madison and enjoyed it.
Unfortunately, two problems...1) At only 99 square feet, it's way too small;
2) It's Madison, Wisconsin, so you have to listen to Scott Walker yakking 24/7/365.
 
2014-02-26 03:40:38 PM  

someonelse: jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.

That's great. Now, once the organization buys these used trailers for the homeless, where should they locate them?


Same place they'd put the "tiny homes".  They're the same thing.  Why don't people get this?

You can't just drop a tiny home on a lot.  Zoning regulations in nearly every city in the US have minimum square footage requirements and building codes.  These tiny homes don't meet size or code requirements for a fixed structure.  That's why they're built onto flatbed trailers.  Heck, look at the concept pic in the article.  You can see the little wheels under the little houses.  The proposal is a mini trailer/RV park.  Know what you can put in a trailer/RV park?  Travel trailers.  Travel trailers with decades of experience and tens (probably hundreds) of thousands of units produced, refining the designs as builders learned what works and what doesn't.
 
2014-02-26 03:45:19 PM  

tlars699: Most of us Wisconsinites like living in places where we can't be poisoned putting on our shoes in the morning. Or burn our feet walking to get the paper, because the sun was hitting the floor.


Speak for yourself, if I could land a gig in Vegas or Phoenix I'd be happy to shake scorpions out of my shoes in the morning.  It also helps that I'm a borderline degenerate gambler...but still.
 
2014-02-26 04:11:41 PM  

WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?


Check out some of the surrounding towns. I lived in Sun Prairie and worked on the near west side of Madison. It was a 30 minute drive to work but the cheaper rent made it all worthwhile. Fitchburg, Cottage Grove, Verona, and Waunakee are also good places to look.
 
2014-02-26 04:30:30 PM  

catmandu: WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?

Check out some of the surrounding towns. I lived in Sun Prairie and worked on the near west side of Madison. It was a 30 minute drive to work but the cheaper rent made it all worthwhile. Fitchburg, Cottage Grove, Verona, and Waunakee are also good places to look.


I would concur with this, except for Verona, which is generally not going to be cheaper (mostly due to my employer being located there and being the largest non-government employer in the county, and growing 10-15% a year).  Verona has gotten a lot of new apartments in the last couple of years, but they are like $1200/month for a 2 bedroom, and unless you're getting an older house near downtown, the newer stuff is all $300k+.
   Sun Prairie and Cottage Grove have had a lot of growth lately but are still cheaper.  Stoughton could be an option too. 
  If you're looking closer to downtown, the main problem is you're competing with all the UW students, and almost all of those places have their leases cycle in mid-August, on the same day.
 
2014-02-26 04:53:08 PM  

blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]


sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com

Much better.
 
2014-02-26 04:53:43 PM  

tlars699: Little boxes... and they're all made out of ticky tacky


I've been sort of following this tiny home movement for a bit now and I wonder how much of the construction cost gets wasted trying to make these things look like little dollhouses. Specifically, I wonder if these structures - inside and out - could be designed to be more functional if money wasn't being wasted on things faux shutters and window planters.
 
2014-02-26 05:05:14 PM  
Or you could by a $800 shed and throw a couchbed in it ?
 
2014-02-26 05:09:29 PM  

Pfighting Polish: blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]

[sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com image 295x320]

Much better.


Wait, Summerfest is held on the Marquette campus?

I like Milwaukee.  I also like Madison.  But I would take State Street bars over, say, Water Street bars.

Now, Old World 3rd St.  *Drools*

Anyway, I'll be in Brew City on March 31st for obvious reasons.

Cheers!
 
2014-02-26 05:18:19 PM  
No, it's not.  But close enough.  I work at Marquette.  I live in Greenfield.  I attend games from Mequon to Racine.  It's all Marquette to me.  As long as it's not in Madison.
 
2014-02-26 05:25:35 PM  

Pfighting Polish: No, it's not.  But close enough.  I work at Marquette.  I live in Greenfield.  I attend games from Mequon to Racine.   It's all Marquette to me. As long as it's not in Madison.


Which is funny considering a goodly amount of the Marquette student body is FIBs.  And on comparing campuses- Marqutte has three nice building with a three block buffer before you hit the ghetto.  Madison at least has the lakes.

/And The Rave is closer to Marquette than the Summerfest grounds
//Quit lumping all of this area into Marquette people
 
2014-02-26 05:40:52 PM  

blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.



?
 
2014-02-26 05:51:29 PM  

phaseolus: blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.


?


Opening Day, which coupled with St. Patrick's Day two weeks prior guarantees nothing will get done in this city from the second week of March until June.
 
2014-02-26 05:57:34 PM  
Ken VeryBigLiar:


Ah. Shows how much I pay attention.
 
2014-02-26 05:57:40 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: phaseolus: blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.


?

Opening Day, which coupled with St. Patrick's Day two weeks prior guarantees nothing will get done in this city from the second week of March until June.


I'm hoping the temps get above 30 for tailgating.

/suck it winter
 
2014-02-26 06:09:44 PM  

blatz514: Pfighting Polish: blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]

[sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com image 295x320]

Much better.

Wait, Summerfest is held on the Marquette campus?

I like Milwaukee.  I also like Madison.  But I would take State Street bars over, say, Water Street bars.

Now, Old World 3rd St.  *Drools*

Anyway, I'll be in Brew City on March 31st for obvious reasons.

Cheers!


Will be drinking on Old World 3rd St a week from tomorrow. If I could bottle up that little section of town and take it with me, I would.
 
2014-02-26 06:25:54 PM  

someonelse: Jument: How about "no". Call me spoiled but I need indoor plumbing.

Then I recommend one of the city's homeless shelters. When they kick you out, there's always the library. After closing time, I recommend hovering over the grates down by the State Historical Society mall area to stay worm. Good luck with that.


Ok, well in fairness if I had to choose between one of these and a grate, I'd choose one of these in a heartbeat. But I'm more likely to have to choose my method of disembowelment.
 
2014-02-26 07:41:08 PM  

moefuggenbrew: Or you could by a $800 shed and throw a couchbed in it ?


Enjoy freezing to death come winter
 
2014-02-26 07:43:14 PM  

abhorrent1: No. It's a shed on wheels and I could build one for less than that.


         THIS^^^^^^ (except for the I could build it part)
 
2014-02-26 09:08:44 PM  

TheYeti: Christ, I drink enough already.  My liver won't let me move to Madison.


Already here; welcome to MY world, and my liver is quite pissed at me already!
 
2014-02-26 09:27:32 PM  

blatz514: Gonna take a stab and say schlubby has never been to Madison.

[weddingmapper.s3.amazonaws.com image 850x545]

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 850x585]

[www.pps.org image 360x169]


You left out my favorite; even worked there on and off for 23 years!img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 09:39:11 PM  

WhiskeySticks: someonelse: WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?

Get a roommate. Madison isn't cheap. I like the older houses around the Vilas area for rentals. Residential but still urban, and usually more affordable. Although you'll be lucky to get a garage that fits a lawnmower. There are cute older neighborhoods over by Olbrich Park, too. If you've got $$, go look at the condos on the square.

Would love to live in the Vilas area if the price was right. I'll have the ladyfriend with me, so it's dual income. If we could only get that damn dog to find gainful employment. You and Jonasborg, thanks for the suggestions


Eastside, Atwood Ave. area is a fun neighborhood; Barrymore Theater, The Harmony Bar, One Barrel Brewing, Next Door Brewing, friendly people, nice community vibe!
 
2014-02-26 09:49:53 PM  
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-02-27 01:33:34 AM  

China White Tea: I used to date a girl who moved into an apartment in Park Slope that was 9' x 6'.

It was easily the most absurd thing I've ever seen.   You couldn't actually open the door more than just enough to squeeze through because it would hit the bed frame.

...but it was in Park Slope!


I slept there once.

Once.


Sounds like my bedroom. =(


jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.


Except that travel trailers typically aren't insulated. They aren't meant to be used in Wisconsin winters. The odd ones that are winterized are gonna cost a lot more than $5k.
 
2014-02-27 03:16:29 AM  
If I had to live in a trailer, I'd rather have an Airstream.

www.hofarc.com
www.colonialairstream.com
graphics8.nytimes.com

And if you lose your license for DUI......

www.airstream.com
 
2014-02-27 03:38:07 AM  

spawn73: they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels.



Try to move a trailer with a roof like that down the highway, watch the wind rip the roof off, or flip the damn thing, and the towing vehicle with it.
 
2014-02-27 03:58:18 AM  
I want these to be made again

i.telegraph.co.uk

plenty of hippies lived in them all over California and other warm places

probably roomier than these stupid "tiny houses"
 
2014-02-27 04:44:10 AM  

WeenerGord: spawn73: they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels.


Try to move a trailer with a roof like that down the highway, watch the wind rip the roof off, or flip the damn thing, and the towing vehicle with it.


I don't think they have to move them more than a symbolic distance. They likely rotate the same 10 "houses" around the same lot.
 
2014-02-27 06:44:29 AM  
$8000 got us a 3000 sqft home at auction that we gutted and live in as we renovate..and the 2 acres it sits on..  Why would I buy a house 3% the size for over half as much..?  :P

Best pic I could find on short notice..  The Sat-dishes are long-gone, exterior is *all* steel..all the clutter at the back is either gone, or different..  Part of the price o'the renovation..  ;)   Main living area is 24'x24' with a 14' half-vault ceiling..kitchen and dining area is 24'x14'..and that's only the back half of the ground floor..

Off t'read the article, now..  Contrary to what the above suggests, I actually love micro-housing/architecture..  Current house is something we just happened to luck into..

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-27 06:55:47 AM  
And, demmitt..  2nd time in 2 hours I leaped before I looked..  Thought I could comment, then retroactively RTFT..  Lesson learned..  I chalk it up to the horrible day this has been, from the beginning..

/still got a killer deal on my house, tho'..  :)
 
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