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(Daily Mail)   Would you buy a $5,000 house? Granted, it's only 99 square feet, and you'd have to live in Madison, Wisconsin, but you really can't beat the price   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 153
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2014-02-26 10:40:01 AM  
I bought a $1,500 house.  Granted it was built in 1910 but it was adjacent to our house and came with 2 lots.  Makes a nice project shack.
 
2014-02-26 10:45:25 AM  
Gonna take a stab and say schlubby has never been to Madison.

weddingmapper.s3.amazonaws.com

farm4.staticflickr.com

www.pps.org
 
2014-02-26 11:07:44 AM  
madison is awesome.
 
2014-02-26 11:37:13 AM  
While I applaud the idea, I can't help but wonder how many of them will get totally trashed in the span of 2 weeks.  What would be awesome is if they could build and keep those things someplace where there's mental health/addiction help facilities nearby.
 
2014-02-26 11:51:12 AM  
No. It's a shed on wheels and I could build one for less than that.
 
2014-02-26 11:52:26 AM  

FlashHarry: madison is awesome.


As a Canadian who has traveled there several times for business, I totally agree. It is easily the best small city in the US I've visited. I would have no problem living there.
 
2014-02-26 11:52:44 AM  
No kitchen.  No bathroom.
Heat?   How much are the property taxes?

I need answers.
 
2014-02-26 11:53:20 AM  
I didn't see a bathroom in any of those pics.  Do they have a central bathhouse like a campground?  Still, I guess it's better than a shelter.
 
2014-02-26 11:53:21 AM  
Little boxes... and they're all made out of ticky tacky
 
2014-02-26 11:53:35 AM  
img.fark.net

Awesome project. Bravo Madison.
 
2014-02-26 11:54:23 AM  
Madison, say 'hi' to your new neighbours.

img1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-26 11:57:00 AM  

abhorrent1: No. It's a shed on wheels and I could build one for less than that.


Not that's up to code for human habitation.  A house is different than a shed.
 
2014-02-26 11:57:47 AM  
Hoovervilles.
 
2014-02-26 11:57:58 AM  
"There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?
 
2014-02-26 11:58:33 AM  

Anayalator: [img.fark.net image 54x11]

Awesome project. Bravo Madison.


It's a tasteful shantytown, I'll give you that.
 
2014-02-26 11:58:36 AM  

Anayalator: [img.fark.net image 54x11]

Awesome project. Bravo Madison.


Yes. Bravo, indeed.

When I was still in Clearwater, the city was busy writing ordinances that made shiat like sitting a crime - just to get rid of the homeless. They also effectively shut down outreaches like Quest Inn and the Homeless Mission of St. Vincent de Paul.

Absolutely farking shameful.

While I think the tiny house thing is a marvelous start, Madison might want to take a look at up-cycling shipping containers as well. You can do a ton of cool stuff with them at a low cost, if you're clever.
 
2014-02-26 11:58:48 AM  
Where in the world is $5000 worth of material and labor for something that small, that looks like it could be mass-produced easily?  (let me guess...unions...?)
 
2014-02-26 11:59:28 AM  
Madison rocks. Check out the roller derby matches, they're awesome.
 
2014-02-26 12:00:02 PM  

gopher321: "There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?


I wonder how long before we heard about one of them burning down because someone tries to cook with a propane stove in one?
 
2014-02-26 12:00:56 PM  
No electricity? Where will Scanner Dan recharge his scanner?
 
2014-02-26 12:01:15 PM  

stupiddream: I didn't see a bathroom in any of those pics.  Do they have a central bathhouse like a campground?  Still, I guess it's better than a shelter.


They have composting toilets and no plumbing. And no electrical.

I applaud the idea, but it seems like the tiny-house movement in general could squeeze more out of 5k.
 
2014-02-26 12:02:15 PM  
Well, we all know how people take care of things they are given.  Need an update in a year to see how this "community" does.
 
2014-02-26 12:02:52 PM  
Christ, I drink enough already.  My liver won't let me move to Madison.
 
2014-02-26 12:03:28 PM  
Really??? You guys are slipping

adhaiku.com
 
2014-02-26 12:04:12 PM  

ThighsofGlory: Anayalator: [img.fark.net image 54x11]

Awesome project. Bravo Madison.

It's a tasteful shantytown, I'll give you that.


phenn: Anayalator: [img.fark.net image 54x11]

Awesome project. Bravo Madison.

Yes. Bravo, indeed.


For all of the rhetoric and vitriol we hear from DC daily, isn't great to read a story like this to restore a little bit of faith in humanity? If everyone did a tried just a little bit, there would be very little homelessness and poverty in this country. These people got it right. I'm going to carry a little smile on my face for the day.
 
2014-02-26 12:06:07 PM  
Looks like farkers who have never built anything in their lives outside of a lego set are here to tell us how cheap it should be to build this.
 
2014-02-26 12:06:21 PM  

nekom: I bought a $1,500 house.  Granted it was built in 1910 but it was adjacent to our house and came with 2 lots.  Makes a nice project shack.


You got a deal.

/looking at sheds for Mr. MMM. None come with the 2 extra lots feature not the low price of $1,500
 
2014-02-26 12:07:02 PM  
"Plans include gardens, a chicken coup and possibly bee hives and showers and bathrooms in the main building. "

us.123rf.com
 
2014-02-26 12:07:13 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 12:07:22 PM  
I would have my doubts about living amongst the homeless.  I mean where could I safely park my Beemer which I drive to the gym?  It only takes me 26 minutes.
 
2014-02-26 12:07:55 PM  

Anayalator: For all of the rhetoric and vitriol we hear from DC daily, isn't great to read a story like this to restore a little bit of faith in humanity? If everyone did a tried just a little bit, there would be very little homelessness and poverty in this country. These people got it right. I'm going to carry a little smile on my face for the day.


Yip.

So, five hours, every other Saturday at your local mission or outreach can make a massive difference. Donating clothes and household items instead of tossing them out is helpful. Little pieces can make a big difference to someone who is alone and struggling.
 
2014-02-26 12:07:56 PM  
99 sq ft in Madison? Where will the person sit after they move all their beer into the place?
 
2014-02-26 12:08:02 PM  
Can I get a Double-wide?
 
2014-02-26 12:09:29 PM  
click  click  click  click  click  click  click   RRIINNNGGGG!

Thats over $50/ sqft.

{checks intar-webs}

Which is CHEAP for housing!!
 
2014-02-26 12:10:31 PM  
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/    expensive but much better built.
 
2014-02-26 12:10:54 PM  
images.lowes.com

Or pay $968 for one of these. I'm guessing it would cost a lot less then $4000 to make a livable interior.
 
2014-02-26 12:10:55 PM  
Nice idea, but I think that some idiot will burn it down by leaving a candle burning or something like that. Do we still call them Bushburgs or are they Obamavilles now?
 
2014-02-26 12:11:05 PM  
Subby doesn't know what he's talking about.

/Ale Asylum for the win.
 
2014-02-26 12:11:18 PM  

FlashHarry: madison is awesome.


I'll be there on Saturday, visiting my daughter who goes to school there.

Awesome town, great school, and it's only 2 hours away. I love the place!
 
2014-02-26 12:11:55 PM  

LasersHurt: stupiddream: I didn't see a bathroom in any of those pics.  Do they have a central bathhouse like a campground?  Still, I guess it's better than a shelter.

They have composting toilets and no plumbing. And no electrical.

I applaud the idea, but it seems like the tiny-house movement in general could squeeze more out of 5k.



I'm in agreement. Buy some sheds from Home Depot, put in insulation and dry wall, a fold up bed on one wall, your propane heater, etc. Should be easy to get it under $1500.00. Hell, take 'em off wheels, put 'em in a central location and plumbing and electricity wouldn't be too hard. Maybe give each one of them a solar panel?
 
2014-02-26 12:12:17 PM  
Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
tinyhouseblog.com
 
2014-02-26 12:12:24 PM  

RobertBruce: http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/    expensive but much better built.


Man, a 3 foot wide bedroom makes for some powerful claustrophobia.
 
2014-02-26 12:12:47 PM  
Is this part of that "Own your own hobo" program I've heard about?  I'd buy one if they would let me name it.  It's like a doll house but the doll is alive!
 
2014-02-26 12:12:52 PM  
Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers, ergo, it sucks more than any other city on the planet.

/Go Marquette
//Worked for Bo Ryan for one year.  I have sympathy for Jarrod Uthoff.
 
2014-02-26 12:13:33 PM  
I see you and raise you:

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 12:17:46 PM  
What an entitled utter biatch, that woman interviewed in the article objecting because of possible "unsavory types".

So if these tiny-homes communities share bathroom areas and such, it would be really cool for them to share some kind of renewable energy plot too, maybe some windmills and solar panels.

I almost wonder if people in general would be happier living like this. Kinda like harkening back to tribal village days. Today people are separated into tiny partitions in their homes that they run to every evening to get away from the harassment of the day
 
2014-02-26 12:18:48 PM  

Pfighting Polish: Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers, ergo, it sucks more than any other city on the planet.

/Go Marquette
//Worked for Bo Ryan for one year.  I have sympathy for Jarrod Uthoff.


Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?
 
2014-02-26 12:19:30 PM  
Hey Subby, not a fan of Madison?
ih0.redbubble.net
 
2014-02-26 12:20:21 PM  

IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]


Yes, but then you have to live in Michigan and run the risk of being shanked at any moment.
 
2014-02-26 12:22:28 PM  
I would have to be paid at least $50,000 (net) annually to live in Wisconsin (maximum two years)I like having 300+ days of Summer every year.

/ It's currently 76 degrees here, however, it's suppose to get down to a bone chilling 50 degrees Thursday night.

// I hope I can survive.
 
2014-02-26 12:22:59 PM  

bikerbob59: Subby doesn't know what he's talking about.

/Ale Asylum for the win.


*Googles "Ale Asylum"*

Conveniently located next to a golf course.

I got first round Bob!
 
2014-02-26 12:24:12 PM  

MBooda: Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
[tinyhouseblog.com image 542x442]


I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.
 
2014-02-26 12:24:18 PM  
Amortized over 20 years at 3.04% is roughly, $27 per month....for a grand total of ~$6400 in total....

Yup subby, I think I can swing it..

I'll take it!
 
2014-02-26 12:24:28 PM  

Nightsweat: Pfighting Polish: Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers, ergo, it sucks more than any other city on the planet.

/Go Marquette
//Worked for Bo Ryan for one year.  I have sympathy for Jarrod Uthoff.

Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?


I'll add, UW is located in a very nice part of town.  Marquette?  Not so much...
 
2014-02-26 12:27:51 PM  

IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]


That thing has "murder house" written aaaaaallllllll over it.
 
2014-02-26 12:29:09 PM  

Nick Nostril: 99 sq ft in Madison? Where will the person sit after they move all their beer into the place?


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgjMdjKw1Og
 
2014-02-26 12:30:03 PM  

MutantMotherMouse: nekom: I bought a $1,500 house.  Granted it was built in 1910 but it was adjacent to our house and came with 2 lots.  Makes a nice project shack.

You got a deal.

/looking at sheds for Mr. MMM. None come with the 2 extra lots feature not the low price of $1,500


Yeah it would have easily cost that much for a much smaller structure alone.  It popped up in the county's dead property repository and just couldn't pass that up.  Now the previous owner was a squatter, so naturally all of the copper was missing but somehow the breaker box was in tact.
 
2014-02-26 12:30:46 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

That thing has "murder house" written aaaaaallllllll over it.


Wisconsin specializes in those.

boingboing.net
 
2014-02-26 12:35:52 PM  
As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?
 
2014-02-26 12:36:40 PM  

IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]


You gotta love the estimated mortgage price.

That gives me an idea: Maybe we could create a Farktown in Detroit. Buy a block of houses for next to nothing, put up a 15 foot concrete wall around it. Bar, brothal, cat hospital, grocery store -- everything else though online stores. Police don't have time to bother. It would be paradise I tell 'ya
 
2014-02-26 12:42:16 PM  

IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]


Missing the description:

"MOTIVATED SELLERS! Great property for investors! This beautiful brick colonial is located in a great area and has several great features including a full basement, a 2 car garage, large kitchen, 2 baths and much more. All info is estimated. Needs rehab. Missing hot water tank, furnace, sink, bathtub and electrical."

i1049.photobucket.com i1049.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-26 12:42:31 PM  

uber humper: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

You gotta love the estimated mortgage price.

That gives me an idea: Maybe we could create a Farktown in Detroit. Buy a block of houses for next to nothing, put up a 15 foot concrete wall around it. Bar, brothal, cat hospital, grocery store -- everything else though online stores. Police don't have time to bother. It would be paradise I tell 'ya


I'm down. I can brew beer. I'll start packing the kettles and kegs!
 
2014-02-26 12:42:45 PM  
No.  Not that house.  not that location, not that price.
 
2014-02-26 12:43:42 PM  
WhiskeySticks...Ripple Rents seems to be the most reasonable people out there and pet friendly.
 
2014-02-26 12:45:17 PM  

stupiddream: gopher321: "There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?

I wonder how long before we heard about one of them burning down because someone tries to cook with a propane stove in one?



You forgot to add the word "meth" between "cook" and "with."
 
2014-02-26 12:47:31 PM  

WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?


Get a roommate. Madison isn't cheap. I like the older houses around the Vilas area for rentals. Residential but still urban, and usually more affordable. Although you'll be lucky to get a garage that fits a lawnmower. There are cute older neighborhoods over by Olbrich Park, too. If you've got $$, go look at the condos on the square.
 
2014-02-26 12:47:45 PM  
I see that once again, anything 'Occupy' related takes heavy influence from the PNW.
 
2014-02-26 12:49:46 PM  
How about "no". Call me spoiled but I need indoor plumbing.
 
2014-02-26 12:50:29 PM  

uber humper: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

You gotta love the estimated mortgage price.

That gives me an idea: Maybe we could create a Farktown in Detroit. Buy a block of houses for next to nothing, put up a 15 foot concrete wall around it. Bar, brothal, cat hospital, grocery store -- everything else though online stores. Police don't have time to bother. It would be paradise I tell 'ya


I've heard that the property taxes are absurd and calculated in an absurd manner.  So you buy a house for 5k and end up with a 5k a year tax liability.
 
2014-02-26 12:50:42 PM  
At a certain level of small, the price per foot gets worse.

So, no.

Plus garages pay for themselves in any area with weather.
 
2014-02-26 12:52:16 PM  
Oh its for homeless folks?
Well alrighty then.
 
2014-02-26 12:55:02 PM  
So the answer to the homeless is a trailer park?  Cause that's what this is.

/bring on the tornadoes
 
2014-02-26 12:59:03 PM  

someonelse: WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?

Get a roommate. Madison isn't cheap. I like the older houses around the Vilas area for rentals. Residential but still urban, and usually more affordable. Although you'll be lucky to get a garage that fits a lawnmower. There are cute older neighborhoods over by Olbrich Park, too. If you've got $$, go look at the condos on the square.


Would love to live in the Vilas area if the price was right. I'll have the ladyfriend with me, so it's dual income. If we could only get that damn dog to find gainful employment. You and Jonasborg, thanks for the suggestions
 
2014-02-26 01:00:34 PM  

theresnothinglft: So the answer to the homeless is a trailer park?  Cause that's what this is.

/bring on the tornadoes


I'm not sure there is a good answer.

Anything too good and you need supervision. Too much supervision and you may blink and find out you've got the old asylum system on your hands. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

Various people are homeless for various reasons, and they need different answers. For some, that may well be a trailer park.
 
2014-02-26 01:01:27 PM  

IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]


So much this^^
Get this: You can get 4 bedrooms for 1$ in this area.
 
2014-02-26 01:01:43 PM  
Don't have to live there, but I do!

/since '88
//never a dull moment
///something for everyone
////Capital Brewery Bier Garden on summertime Friday nights
 
2014-02-26 01:02:49 PM  

mistrmind: No kitchen.  No bathroom.
Heat?   How much are the property taxes?

I need answers.


These were my questions exactly.  Especially the heat, in a place like Madison.
It seems they esentially are buying the equivillent of a cabin on a campground.

So, considering there is a "main building" on the grounds that supports all their plmbing needs and such, what are the fees for that?  It can't be free.  Also...  Where is the fridge?  Oven?
 
2014-02-26 01:03:03 PM  
That's a nice idea...
 
2014-02-26 01:03:15 PM  

The water was cold: I would have to be paid at least $50,000 (net) annually to live in Wisconsin (maximum two years)I like having 300+ days of Summer every year.

/ It's currently 76 degrees here, however, it's suppose to get down to a bone chilling 50 degrees Thursday night.

// I hope I can survive.


Most of us Wisconsinites like living in places where we can't be poisoned putting on our shoes in the morning. Or burn our feet walking to get the paper, because the sun was hitting the floor.
 
2014-02-26 01:03:18 PM  
I used to date a girl who moved into an apartment in Park Slope that was 9' x 6'.  

It was easily the most absurd thing I've ever seen.  You couldn't actually open the door more than just enough to squeeze through because it would hit the bed frame.

...but it was in Park Slope!


I slept there once.

Once.
 
2014-02-26 01:05:38 PM  

bborchar: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

Missing the description:

"MOTIVATED SELLERS! Great property for investors! This beautiful brick colonial is located in a great area and has several great features including a full basement, a 2 car garage, large kitchen, 2 baths and much more. All info is estimated. Needs rehab. Missing hot water tank, furnace, sink, bathtub and electrical."

[i1049.photobucket.com image 390x294] [i1049.photobucket.com image 392x298]


So this house in Detroit has a kitchen. Otherwise- same deal.
 
2014-02-26 01:05:48 PM  

uber humper: I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.


Their manufacturers are keeping them off the market. Or, to put it another way, if you try to buy one at an auction you need to anticipate bidding against the manufacturer that built it. So what you're seeing is assuredly a not-for-sale storage lot.
 
2014-02-26 01:09:35 PM  

Chagrin: uber humper: I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.

Their manufacturers are keeping them off the market. Or, to put it another way, if you try to buy one at an auction you need to anticipate bidding against the manufacturer that built it. So what you're seeing is assuredly a not-for-sale storage lot.


Why?
 
2014-02-26 01:10:53 PM  

mistrmind: No kitchen.  No bathroom.
Heat?   How much are the property taxes?

I need answers.


I guess you could read the article.

But since I did. They have a propane gas heater. No property taxes, instead they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels. Compostable toilet. Shared kitchen/showers with the rest of the cluster.
 
2014-02-26 01:11:15 PM  

IRQ12: uber humper: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

You gotta love the estimated mortgage price.

That gives me an idea: Maybe we could create a Farktown in Detroit. Buy a block of houses for next to nothing, put up a 15 foot concrete wall around it. Bar, brothal, cat hospital, grocery store -- everything else though online stores. Police don't have time to bother. It would be paradise I tell 'ya

I've heard that the property taxes are absurd and calculated in an absurd manner.  So you buy a house for 5k and end up with a 5k a year tax liability.



The D is crooked. Just let the tax appraiser have carte blanc at the brothal
 
2014-02-26 01:11:58 PM  

gopher321: "There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?


You'd rather sleep on the street?
 
2014-02-26 01:12:52 PM  

tlars699: bborchar: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

Missing the description:

"MOTIVATED SELLERS! Great property for investors! This beautiful brick colonial is located in a great area and has several great features including a full basement, a 2 car garage, large kitchen, 2 baths and much more. All info is estimated. Needs rehab. Missing hot water tank, furnace, sink, bathtub and electrical."

[i1049.photobucket.com image 390x294] [i1049.photobucket.com image 392x298]

So this house in Detroit has a kitchen. Otherwise- same deal.


Well, it IS in Detroit.
 
2014-02-26 01:14:23 PM  
I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.
 
2014-02-26 01:15:32 PM  

uber humper: IRQ12: uber humper: IRQ12: I see you and raise you:

[img.fark.net image 652x658]

You gotta love the estimated mortgage price.

That gives me an idea: Maybe we could create a Farktown in Detroit. Buy a block of houses for next to nothing, put up a 15 foot concrete wall around it. Bar, brothal, cat hospital, grocery store -- everything else though online stores. Police don't have time to bother. It would be paradise I tell 'ya

I've heard that the property taxes are absurd and calculated in an absurd manner.  So you buy a house for 5k and end up with a 5k a year tax liability.


The D is crooked. Just let the tax appraiser have carte blanc at the brothal


Better yet: paint the 15' walls to make it look like an abandoned factory
 
2014-02-26 01:18:39 PM  

htomc: Where in the world is $5000 worth of material and labor for something that small, that looks like it could be mass-produced easily?  (let me guess...unions...?)


Let me guess, you're right wing? (not a guess really, I know you are)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ikea-shelters-house-somali -r efugees-in-ethiopia-a-929568.html

Anyway, IKEA can massproduce something with electricity for 1000USD, but that doesn't seem very suited for winters in Wisconsin though.
 
2014-02-26 01:20:21 PM  

abhorrent1: No. It's a shed on wheels and I could build one for less than that.


Thats what I was thinking. 5k seems extremely high to build what is basically a small shed. And since they are using donated labor, that $5000 is just for materials?

And as for the headline, yes you can beat the price pretty easily. $50 a square foot is not an amazing deal. Go to Detroit if you want amazing deals.
 
2014-02-26 01:25:02 PM  

spawn73: htomc: Where in the world is $5000 worth of material and labor for something that small, that looks like it could be mass-produced easily?  (let me guess...unions...?)

Let me guess, you're right wing? (not a guess really, I know you are)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ikea-shelters-house-somali -r efugees-in-ethiopia-a-929568.html

Anyway, IKEA can massproduce something with electricity for 1000USD, but that doesn't seem very suited for winters in Wisconsin though.


This to the whole post.

Insulation and economies of scale play a role here.  Is 5k still an inflated price? Possibly. Is it because of some flaw of government grift? Maybe.

Is the solution, therefore, to rant against the project and cry about unions and then never end up with housing for the homeless? I think not.

Not to turn this too political, but that is what pisses me off. The people who spend all their time complaining about the waste within the government have a solution of throwing the baby out with the bathwater nearly every single time. Unless its the military or 'bringing manufacturing to small town x', in which case the solution is buying more useless jets and spending taxpayer money to subsidize the hell out of the industry.
 
2014-02-26 01:28:39 PM  

xanadian: While I applaud the idea, I can't help but wonder how many of them will get totally trashed in the span of 2 weeks.  What would be awesome is if they could build and keep those things someplace where there's mental health/addiction help facilities nearby.


This. Homelessness largely has nothing to do with lacking a home, per se. It's almost entirely a mental health problem.
 
2014-02-26 01:29:46 PM  

Jument: How about "no". Call me spoiled but I need indoor plumbing.


Then I recommend one of the city's homeless shelters. When they kick you out, there's always the library. After closing time, I recommend hovering over the grates down by the State Historical Society mall area to stay worm. Good luck with that.
 
2014-02-26 01:31:46 PM  
While the structure itself is probably only $1000 in materials, the trailer the whole thing sits on is probably the most expensive part. Depending on the size, the manufacturer, and if it's new or used, you're still looking at at least $1k for something that can handle the load of the house and is also street legal.

There's also some extra supplies, like hurricane ties, that you need while framing something like this. If you've ever done a project that requires a lot of engineered steel pieces, you know how fast they can add up in the final costs.

Bottom line, I don't think $5k isn't bad if they're using all new materials and volunteer labor.
 
2014-02-26 01:31:56 PM  

spawn73: htomc: Where in the world is $5000 worth of material and labor for something that small, that looks like it could be mass-produced easily?  (let me guess...unions...?)

Let me guess, you're right wing? (not a guess really, I know you are)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ikea-shelters-house-somali -r efugees-in-ethiopia-a-929568.html

Anyway, IKEA can massproduce something with electricity for 1000USD, but that doesn't seem very suited for winters in Wisconsin though.


You would think being a Swedish company that they would know better.
 
2014-02-26 01:33:38 PM  

phaseolus: I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.


That's funny.  I used to work at the Rent-A-Center in the Madison East Shopping Center, way back when.
 
2014-02-26 01:34:13 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: xanadian: While I applaud the idea, I can't help but wonder how many of them will get totally trashed in the span of 2 weeks.  What would be awesome is if they could build and keep those things someplace where there's mental health/addiction help facilities nearby.

This. Homelessness largely has nothing to do with lacking a home, per se. It's almost entirely a mental health problem.


Citation?

Regardless, Madison has plenty of experience cleaning up homes trashed by trust fund students. And earlier this week some geniuses in Acadia about killed themselves using a charcoal grill in their kitchen for heat.
 
2014-02-26 01:35:26 PM  

tlars699: Little boxes... and they're all made out of ticky tacky


Heh came here to make that comment.
 
2014-02-26 01:37:24 PM  
'There have been people who have always been associated with people who are homeless that are unsavoury types of people,' she said.


Completely true, and accurate.  But unless we are willing to simply kill off the homeless along with unsavory types, they kind of have to live somewhere.  And honestly, if you aren't wealthy enough to move away from somewhere, and are living in a shiatty enough area that it was the original choice for such a thing, you are probably associated with an awful lot of unsavory people yourself.

I don't care if people are poor or rich. But I do find it amusing when people just a little bit above poverty are busy looking down.  Or maybe less amusing and more sad, since that mindset is probably a way for them to convince themselves they are doing well. Kind of farked up either way.
 
2014-02-26 01:37:59 PM  

uber humper: MBooda: Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
[tinyhouseblog.com image 542x442]

I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.


We still have some left over from frances and jeane. Also unused. Im thinking they may not be habitable anymore though.
 
2014-02-26 01:41:20 PM  

tlars699: The water was cold: I would have to be paid at least $50,000 (net) annually to live in Wisconsin (maximum two years)I like having 300+ days of Summer every year.

/ It's currently 76 degrees here, however, it's suppose to get down to a bone chilling 50 degrees Thursday night.

// I hope I can survive.

Most of us Wisconsinites like living in places where we can't be poisoned putting on our shoes in the morning. Or burn our feet walking to get the paper, because the sun was hitting the floor.


I have never burned my feet, even on the sand.  Unlike most beaches, walking barefoot is no problem here because we have white sand which reflects the heat.  But if you are so sensitive, slipping on flip-flops is much easier & quicker than putting on socks and lacing up shoes / boots for the few seconds it takes to go get the paper.  At least I shall always have ten toes - no frostbite here.
 
2014-02-26 01:43:53 PM  
Madison is an awesome town. I lived there last summer and was floored by how well they treat their homeless.  And they don't panhandle for the most part - they don't need to since Madison has such good services for them.  I also lived in Springfield MO, "the buckle of the bible belt" and they send their homeless out of town or they arrest them.  A perfect example of "What would Jesus do" - he would be a bleeding heart liberal who would help those in need.  Not the hand of law who make the homeless someone else's problem.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:10 PM  
What happens when a straight line wind or tornado blows through?  Can see those holding up too well.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:46 PM  
I came in here to properly adjust Subby's panties on Madison, but I see some of you have beat me to it.  Thanks for that.  Now when can we have a Madison Fark party?  I've never been, and I keep missing the ones in Chicago.
 
2014-02-26 01:46:47 PM  
Can't...stupid autocorrect
 
2014-02-26 01:46:59 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: uber humper: MBooda: Very old news.  We've had Katrina Cottages in New Orleans and the surrounding area for eight and a half years now.
[tinyhouseblog.com image 542x442]

I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.

We still have some left over from frances and jeane. Also unused. Im thinking they may not be habitable anymore though.


If they had any leaks, I doubt they would be.  Remediation would cost more than they are worth. Apparantly, storing them is cheaper than trashing them.
 
2014-02-26 01:49:43 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: xanadian: While I applaud the idea, I can't help but wonder how many of them will get totally trashed in the span of 2 weeks.  What would be awesome is if they could build and keep those things someplace where there's mental health/addiction help facilities nearby.

This. Homelessness largely has nothing to do with lacking a home, per se. It's almost entirely a mental health problem.


I've seen two people on a forum I frequent often and know well, whom at some point said "well, looks like I'll be homeless".

Really, if you can't find a job, then you'll often loose your house. If you have dependants I gather the government will help you, but if you're single, you're farked.
 
2014-02-26 01:50:18 PM  

Molavian: phaseolus: I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.

That's funny.  I used to work at the Rent-A-Center in the Madison East Shopping Center, way back when.


Huh, didn't know my brother was on Fark.

Hi Dave!  *waves*
 
2014-02-26 01:53:28 PM  

blatz514: Molavian: phaseolus: I'm semi-sorta-familiar with Madison, so I had to see what part of town these were in. They'll be at E. Johnson and 3rd street, in case anyone's curious.

That's funny.  I used to work at the Rent-A-Center in the Madison East Shopping Center, way back when.

Huh, didn't know my brother was on Fark.

Hi Dave!  *waves*


Hello, Phillip.
 
2014-02-26 01:57:24 PM  

desertmouse: I came in here to properly adjust Subby's panties on Madison, but I see some of you have beat me to it.  Thanks for that.  Now when can we have a Madison Fark party?  I've never been, and I keep missing the ones in Chicago.


Welcome to Cyan 2.

And yes, a Madison Fark party would frickin' rule!
 
2014-02-26 01:59:50 PM  
Used mobile homes for that price are 5x that size. That steep sloped roof and those fake shutters are frivolous junk. I think we can do better.
 
2014-02-26 02:04:23 PM  

Nightsweat: Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?


I do.  Golden Eagles. Though it, and even our previous offensive nickname, is better than being named after dirty, burrowing rodents.  Though it makes an odd kind of sense.

blatz514: I'll add, UW is located in a very nice part of town.  Marquette?  Not so much...


Marquette is a very safe campus.  You're thinking of a neighborhood a few blocks over.  Plus, we have diversity, where as Madison has to Photoshop in people of other ethnicities.  So, yeah, again, +1 Marquette.  In all ways superior.
 
2014-02-26 02:15:42 PM  

Pfighting Polish: Nightsweat: Marquette's is of course home of the Flying who Gives a fark?

I do.  Golden Eagles. Though it, and even our previous offensive nickname, is better than being named after dirty, burrowing rodents.  Though it makes an odd kind of sense.

blatz514: I'll add, UW is located in a very nice part of town.  Marquette?  Not so much...

Marquette is a very safe campus.  You're thinking of a neighborhood a few blocks over.  Plus, we have diversity, where as Madison has to Photoshop in people of other ethnicities.  So, yeah, again, +1 Marquette.  In all ways superior.


Yes, I'm sure campus is safe.  But like you said, walk 2 or 3 blocks...not so nice.

Plus, Marquette lacks this:

photos.uc.wisc.edu
 
2014-02-26 02:18:42 PM  

stupiddream: gopher321: "There's no plumbing or electricity, but the home is insulated and has a propane heater to get the residents through the harsh Wisconsin winters."


Umm...how about "No"?

I wonder how long before we heard about one of them burning down because someone tries to cook with a propane stove in one?


The current over/under is 36 hours, but that is actually for ALL of them to go up in flames.
 
2014-02-26 02:58:19 PM  

2headedboy: Madison is an awesome town. I lived there last summer and was floored by how well they treat their homeless.  And they don't panhandle for the most part - they don't need to since Madison has such good services for them.  I also lived in Springfield MO, "the buckle of the bible belt" and they send their homeless out of town or they arrest them.  A perfect example of "What would Jesus do" - he would be a bleeding heart liberal who would help those in need.  Not the hand of law who make the homeless someone else's problem.


No, see, that is the government doing that to the homeless. Just as it doesn't count as doing good if it is done through the government, so too does it not count as doing bad.  So as long as they have a half-assed soup kitchen or two, their charity requirements are covered.

Same goes for all the christians who demand secure borders and scream for additional penalties for foreigners.  I believe it was jesus who said, 'should a foreigner come to your land, imprison him long enough that he has nothing waiting for him at home, and then returnest him to where he belongs.'.
 
2014-02-26 02:59:05 PM  
We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.
 
2014-02-26 03:17:21 PM  
madison is an incredible city.  lived in an apartment on Langdon/Frances for a couple years, those were great years.
 
2014-02-26 03:20:54 PM  
So it's a trailer, but looks like a house.
 
2014-02-26 03:21:23 PM  

jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.


That's great. Now, once the organization buys these used trailers for the homeless, where should they locate them?
 
2014-02-26 03:29:59 PM  
I wouldn't mind a $5000 house in Madison, in that I've visited Madison and enjoyed it.
Unfortunately, two problems...1) At only 99 square feet, it's way too small;
2) It's Madison, Wisconsin, so you have to listen to Scott Walker yakking 24/7/365.
 
2014-02-26 03:40:38 PM  

someonelse: jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.

That's great. Now, once the organization buys these used trailers for the homeless, where should they locate them?


Same place they'd put the "tiny homes".  They're the same thing.  Why don't people get this?

You can't just drop a tiny home on a lot.  Zoning regulations in nearly every city in the US have minimum square footage requirements and building codes.  These tiny homes don't meet size or code requirements for a fixed structure.  That's why they're built onto flatbed trailers.  Heck, look at the concept pic in the article.  You can see the little wheels under the little houses.  The proposal is a mini trailer/RV park.  Know what you can put in a trailer/RV park?  Travel trailers.  Travel trailers with decades of experience and tens (probably hundreds) of thousands of units produced, refining the designs as builders learned what works and what doesn't.
 
2014-02-26 03:45:19 PM  

tlars699: Most of us Wisconsinites like living in places where we can't be poisoned putting on our shoes in the morning. Or burn our feet walking to get the paper, because the sun was hitting the floor.


Speak for yourself, if I could land a gig in Vegas or Phoenix I'd be happy to shake scorpions out of my shoes in the morning.  It also helps that I'm a borderline degenerate gambler...but still.
 
2014-02-26 04:11:41 PM  

WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?


Check out some of the surrounding towns. I lived in Sun Prairie and worked on the near west side of Madison. It was a 30 minute drive to work but the cheaper rent made it all worthwhile. Fitchburg, Cottage Grove, Verona, and Waunakee are also good places to look.
 
2014-02-26 04:30:30 PM  

catmandu: WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?

Check out some of the surrounding towns. I lived in Sun Prairie and worked on the near west side of Madison. It was a 30 minute drive to work but the cheaper rent made it all worthwhile. Fitchburg, Cottage Grove, Verona, and Waunakee are also good places to look.


I would concur with this, except for Verona, which is generally not going to be cheaper (mostly due to my employer being located there and being the largest non-government employer in the county, and growing 10-15% a year).  Verona has gotten a lot of new apartments in the last couple of years, but they are like $1200/month for a 2 bedroom, and unless you're getting an older house near downtown, the newer stuff is all $300k+.
   Sun Prairie and Cottage Grove have had a lot of growth lately but are still cheaper.  Stoughton could be an option too. 
  If you're looking closer to downtown, the main problem is you're competing with all the UW students, and almost all of those places have their leases cycle in mid-August, on the same day.
 
2014-02-26 04:53:08 PM  

blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]


sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com

Much better.
 
2014-02-26 04:53:43 PM  

tlars699: Little boxes... and they're all made out of ticky tacky


I've been sort of following this tiny home movement for a bit now and I wonder how much of the construction cost gets wasted trying to make these things look like little dollhouses. Specifically, I wonder if these structures - inside and out - could be designed to be more functional if money wasn't being wasted on things faux shutters and window planters.
 
2014-02-26 05:05:14 PM  
Or you could by a $800 shed and throw a couchbed in it ?
 
2014-02-26 05:09:29 PM  

Pfighting Polish: blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]

[sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com image 295x320]

Much better.


Wait, Summerfest is held on the Marquette campus?

I like Milwaukee.  I also like Madison.  But I would take State Street bars over, say, Water Street bars.

Now, Old World 3rd St.  *Drools*

Anyway, I'll be in Brew City on March 31st for obvious reasons.

Cheers!
 
2014-02-26 05:18:19 PM  
No, it's not.  But close enough.  I work at Marquette.  I live in Greenfield.  I attend games from Mequon to Racine.  It's all Marquette to me.  As long as it's not in Madison.
 
2014-02-26 05:25:35 PM  

Pfighting Polish: No, it's not.  But close enough.  I work at Marquette.  I live in Greenfield.  I attend games from Mequon to Racine.   It's all Marquette to me.  As long as it's not in Madison.


Which is funny considering a goodly amount of the Marquette student body is FIBs.  And on comparing campuses- Marqutte has three nice building with a three block buffer before you hit the ghetto.  Madison at least has the lakes.

/And The Rave is closer to Marquette than the Summerfest grounds
//Quit lumping all of this area into Marquette people
 
2014-02-26 05:40:52 PM  

blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.



?
 
2014-02-26 05:51:29 PM  

phaseolus: blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.


?


Opening Day, which coupled with St. Patrick's Day two weeks prior guarantees nothing will get done in this city from the second week of March until June.
 
2014-02-26 05:57:34 PM  
Ken VeryBigLiar:


Ah. Shows how much I pay attention.
 
2014-02-26 05:57:40 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: phaseolus: blatz514: March 31st for obvious reasons.


?

Opening Day, which coupled with St. Patrick's Day two weeks prior guarantees nothing will get done in this city from the second week of March until June.


I'm hoping the temps get above 30 for tailgating.

/suck it winter
 
2014-02-26 06:09:44 PM  

blatz514: Pfighting Polish: blatz514: Plus, Marquette lacks this:

[photos.uc.wisc.edu image 600x400]

[sassmonsters.files.wordpress.com image 295x320]

Much better.

Wait, Summerfest is held on the Marquette campus?

I like Milwaukee.  I also like Madison.  But I would take State Street bars over, say, Water Street bars.

Now, Old World 3rd St.  *Drools*

Anyway, I'll be in Brew City on March 31st for obvious reasons.

Cheers!


Will be drinking on Old World 3rd St a week from tomorrow. If I could bottle up that little section of town and take it with me, I would.
 
2014-02-26 06:25:54 PM  

someonelse: Jument: How about "no". Call me spoiled but I need indoor plumbing.

Then I recommend one of the city's homeless shelters. When they kick you out, there's always the library. After closing time, I recommend hovering over the grates down by the State Historical Society mall area to stay worm. Good luck with that.


Ok, well in fairness if I had to choose between one of these and a grate, I'd choose one of these in a heartbeat. But I'm more likely to have to choose my method of disembowelment.
 
2014-02-26 07:41:08 PM  

moefuggenbrew: Or you could by a $800 shed and throw a couchbed in it ?


Enjoy freezing to death come winter
 
2014-02-26 07:43:14 PM  

abhorrent1: No. It's a shed on wheels and I could build one for less than that.


         THIS^^^^^^ (except for the I could build it part)
 
2014-02-26 09:08:44 PM  

TheYeti: Christ, I drink enough already.  My liver won't let me move to Madison.


Already here; welcome to MY world, and my liver is quite pissed at me already!
 
2014-02-26 09:27:32 PM  

blatz514: Gonna take a stab and say schlubby has never been to Madison.

[weddingmapper.s3.amazonaws.com image 850x545]

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 850x585]

[www.pps.org image 360x169]


You left out my favorite; even worked there on and off for 23 years!img.fark.net
 
2014-02-26 09:39:11 PM  

WhiskeySticks: someonelse: WhiskeySticks: As a person who's planning to relocate to Madison in the spring/summer pending employment, where do I sign up?

All the houses I've been seeing are under 1,000 square feet with a price tag around 130,000 to 140,000. Rental possibilities with a 90+ pound dog seem to be laughable.

Any Madison area farkers have realtor/rental recommendations?

Get a roommate. Madison isn't cheap. I like the older houses around the Vilas area for rentals. Residential but still urban, and usually more affordable. Although you'll be lucky to get a garage that fits a lawnmower. There are cute older neighborhoods over by Olbrich Park, too. If you've got $$, go look at the condos on the square.

Would love to live in the Vilas area if the price was right. I'll have the ladyfriend with me, so it's dual income. If we could only get that damn dog to find gainful employment. You and Jonasborg, thanks for the suggestions


Eastside, Atwood Ave. area is a fun neighborhood; Barrymore Theater, The Harmony Bar, One Barrel Brewing, Next Door Brewing, friendly people, nice community vibe!
 
2014-02-26 09:49:53 PM  
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-02-27 01:33:34 AM  

China White Tea: I used to date a girl who moved into an apartment in Park Slope that was 9' x 6'.

It was easily the most absurd thing I've ever seen.   You couldn't actually open the door more than just enough to squeeze through because it would hit the bed frame.

...but it was in Park Slope!


I slept there once.

Once.


Sounds like my bedroom. =(


jtown: We've had these things for decades.  They're called  TRAVEL TRAILERS.  Except if you buy a travel trailer, you can safely tow it down the road without pieces flying off, it has functional plumbing, hot water, HVAC, waste tanks, electrical wiring's up to code, etc.  $5,000 will buy you a very nice used one.


Except that travel trailers typically aren't insulated. They aren't meant to be used in Wisconsin winters. The odd ones that are winterized are gonna cost a lot more than $5k.
 
2014-02-27 03:16:29 AM  
If I had to live in a trailer, I'd rather have an Airstream.

www.hofarc.com
www.colonialairstream.com
graphics8.nytimes.com

And if you lose your license for DUI......

www.airstream.com
 
2014-02-27 03:38:07 AM  

spawn73: they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels.



Try to move a trailer with a roof like that down the highway, watch the wind rip the roof off, or flip the damn thing, and the towing vehicle with it.
 
2014-02-27 03:58:18 AM  
I want these to be made again

i.telegraph.co.uk

plenty of hippies lived in them all over California and other warm places

probably roomier than these stupid "tiny houses"
 
2014-02-27 04:44:10 AM  

WeenerGord: spawn73: they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels.


Try to move a trailer with a roof like that down the highway, watch the wind rip the roof off, or flip the damn thing, and the towing vehicle with it.


I don't think they have to move them more than a symbolic distance. They likely rotate the same 10 "houses" around the same lot.
 
2014-02-27 06:44:29 AM  
$8000 got us a 3000 sqft home at auction that we gutted and live in as we renovate..and the 2 acres it sits on..  Why would I buy a house 3% the size for over half as much..?  :P

Best pic I could find on short notice..  The Sat-dishes are long-gone, exterior is *all* steel..all the clutter at the back is either gone, or different..  Part of the price o'the renovation..  ;)   Main living area is 24'x24' with a 14' half-vault ceiling..kitchen and dining area is 24'x14'..and that's only the back half of the ground floor..

Off t'read the article, now..  Contrary to what the above suggests, I actually love micro-housing/architecture..  Current house is something we just happened to luck into..

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-27 06:55:47 AM  
And, demmitt..  2nd time in 2 hours I leaped before I looked..  Thought I could comment, then retroactively RTFT..  Lesson learned..  I chalk it up to the horrible day this has been, from the beginning..

/still got a killer deal on my house, tho'..  :)
 
2014-02-27 03:47:50 PM  

someonelse: Chagrin: uber humper: I still see parking lots Katrina trailers in the DFW area. Unused.

Their manufacturers are keeping them off the market. Or, to put it another way, if you try to buy one at an auction you need to anticipate bidding against the manufacturer that built it. So what you're seeing is assuredly a not-for-sale storage lot.

Why?


These low cost trailers undercut their business and they don't want them flooding the market.
 
2014-02-27 04:14:14 PM  

spawn73: WeenerGord: spawn73: they just move them every 24/48 hours. That's why they're on wheels.


Try to move a trailer with a roof like that down the highway, watch the wind rip the roof off, or flip the damn thing, and the towing vehicle with it.

I don't think they have to move them more than a symbolic distance. They likely rotate the same 10 "houses" around the same lot.



That sounds stupid too, and I bet a stop will be put to it somehow by the authorities, before long. Also, if you ever lived in a cold climate in a trailer, you know you need to skirt the base with insulation, or the wind and snow goes under the bottom and strips heat, snow drifts may get it stuck or iced in place so it can't be moved, etc. How long are "volunteers" going to keep moving these things every 24-48 hours? What if they wake up sick in the winter and have to run to the bathroom? They going to get dressed and trudge to the "main building" in the snow? Is the building going to be open 24-7? Will hobos just sleep in the main building, because it is heated better than the tiny house, and has plumbing? Who is going to pay for the propane for the tiny house? What if some hobos steal the propane thanks off another house, or assault the women in the main building showers and toilets? Etc. This is a dumb idea.
 
2014-02-27 04:17:58 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Which is funny considering a goodly amount of the Marquette student body is FIBs.  And on comparing campuses- Marqutte has three nice building with a three block buffer before you hit the ghetto.  Madison at least has the lakes.

/And The Rave is closer to Marquette than the Summerfest grounds
//Quit lumping all of this area into Marquette people


As a lifelong Milwaukeean, the Illini-at-Marquette thing has always bugged me a little, too.  But, I look at it this way:  We're converting them from something bad (Illini) into something good (cheeseheads).  Could be far worse.

And I will lump the whole area into Marquette people.  As they should be.  Because they should be proud they have a world-class university in their community and support its programs, rather than a university 90 miles to the west that stands for non-D3 or Packers football, concussions, drunken block parties and all that's wrong with the state.  :)
 
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