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(Belfast Telegraph)   Coca-Cola could be forced to change its secret formula as Mexican government raises taxes on sugar. And changing its recipe has worked out so well for Coke in the past   (belfasttelegraph.co.uk) divider line 37
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2014-02-26 09:53:03 AM
Well, this being Fark after all the headline is completely wrong- the government is putting a tax on CANE SUGAR meaning that Coke is considering moving to Fructose which is now cheaper so Mexican Coke may not be made with real sugar but HFCS or something similar in the future.
 
2014-02-26 09:58:55 AM
Has Coke started just making "Mexican Coke" here in the US for all the hipsters?
 
2014-02-26 09:59:50 AM
The US Gov't is the reason we have HFCS in coke here, so why not Mex too?
 
2014-02-26 10:07:37 AM
Coke's "secret recipe" is a scam because it was a recipe before HFCSs existed. And Mexican Coke has regular sugar instead so the recipe has changed.
 
2014-02-26 10:07:38 AM
Coca-Cola can take it's crap and shove it up their asses.
 
2014-02-26 10:25:28 AM

Ashyukun: Well, this being Fark after all the headline is completely wrong- the government is putting a tax on CANE SUGAR meaning that Coke is considering moving to Fructose which is now cheaper so Mexican Coke may not be made with real sugar but HFCS or something similar in the future.


Yes, please change the totally misleading headline.
 
2014-02-26 10:27:23 AM
Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus
 
2014-02-26 10:31:18 AM

Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus


Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.
 
2014-02-26 10:35:00 AM

Saiga410: Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus

Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.


Pepsi just started offering Mountain Dew Throwback in glass bottles around here, so it allows for a side by side comparison. There's not as big a difference between regular canned Coke and bottled Mexican Coke, but the glass bottle definitely adds something to the taste with the Mountain Dew.
 
2014-02-26 10:35:44 AM

Saiga410: Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus

Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.


I think it's the fact that they use real sugar. Pepsi did the "throwback" stuff a while back that had real sugar instead of HFCS; it was in a can and tasted better than the regular stuff. Not sure about the carbonation, though.
 
2014-02-26 10:36:12 AM

Saiga410: Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus

Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.


I drank it out of a belly button once. Tasted the same.
 
2014-02-26 10:36:48 AM

bdub77: Ashyukun: Well, this being Fark after all the headline is completely wrong- the government is putting a tax on CANE SUGAR meaning that Coke is considering moving to Fructose which is now cheaper so Mexican Coke may not be made with real sugar but HFCS or something similar in the future.

Yes, please change the totally misleading headline.


Thanks mods! Feel free to delete my comment(s).
 
2014-02-26 11:33:10 AM
By "forced to change its recipe" so that it uses HFCS instead of cane sugar, you mean "make it the same way they've been making American Coke for years"?
 
2014-02-26 11:57:40 AM

qorkfiend: By "forced to change its recipe" so that it uses HFCS instead of cane sugar, you mean "make it the same way they've been making American Coke for years"?


Which makes it taste shiattier.
 
2014-02-26 12:01:30 PM

Cymbal: qorkfiend: By "forced to change its recipe" so that it uses HFCS instead of cane sugar, you mean "make it the same way they've been making American Coke for years"?

Which makes it taste shiattier.


Well, yes. Doesn't seem to have impacted sales here in the US, though.

In any case, I was mostly referring to the way subby made it seem like this was some huge change for Coke, when in fact they've not only already got the recipe, they've already got it in widespread production.
 
2014-02-26 12:24:55 PM

serial_crusher: Has Coke started just making "Mexican Coke" here in the US for all the hipsters?


No, probably for the rest of us who think the regular stuff tastes like shiat in comparison. Just so you know, Coke alters its formula for each different type of packaging, and it's noticeable. A 20 oz bottle tastes pretty consistent, and a 12 oz can tastes pretty consistent, but they taste totally different from each other, as does a 2 liter bottle and a 1 liter bottle. So it's not a "hipster" thing to notice the different flavors, it just requires a palette that can actually tell the difference between Taco Bell and Texas Roadhouse...
 
2014-02-26 12:53:12 PM

Ashyukun: Well, this being Fark after all the headline is completely wrong- the government is putting a tax on CANE SUGAR meaning that Coke is considering moving to Fructose which is now cheaper so Mexican Coke may not be made with real sugar but HFCS or something similar in the future.


That's wrong too.  The Mexican government is putting a tax on soft drinks (not sugar).  So, Coke is considering changing from expensive cane sugar to cheaper fructose to make up for the extra taxes.
 
2014-02-26 01:18:28 PM

Mikey1969: A 20 oz bottle tastes pretty consistent, and a 12 oz can tastes pretty consistent, but they taste totally different from each other, as does a 2 liter bottle and a 1 liter bottle. So it's not a "hipster" thing to notice the different flavors, it just requires a palette that can actually tell the difference between Taco Bell and Texas Roadhouse...


[citation needed]
as a serious coke drinker...  you are freaking crazy.  Coke made with HFCS tastes the same in all packages.  The difference you notice is nothing more than the fact that soda tastes different drank from a can than from a plastic bottle.  If you pour the canned Coke into a glass and the plastic bottled version into a glass and a\b the stuff, you will taste no difference.

Mexican Coke tastes much better because it is made with real sugar - but poured into a glass beside the American counterpart it is pretty hard to tell the difference.  It has a cleaner taste, but nothing amazing.

Also, the water sources can affect taste depending on where it is bottled, but once again, not so much that it is really noticeable.

Coke is Coke is Coke.
 
2014-02-26 01:42:28 PM

Cymbal: Saiga410: Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus

Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.

I drank it out of a belly button once. Tasted the same.


You're more limber than I am, I'll grant you that.
 
2014-02-26 01:51:04 PM
"Cymbal I drank it out of a belly button once. Tasted the same."

Was it your belly button? That's talent!
 
2014-02-26 02:05:06 PM

dobro: Coke's "secret recipe" is a scam because it was a recipe before HFCSs existed. And Mexican Coke has regular sugar instead so the recipe has changed.


Pretty much every other country in the world has sugar in their Coca Cola instead of HFCS like what happens in the US. In many countries it wouldn't even be legal to add the stuff due to health concerns.
 
2014-02-26 02:13:54 PM

Mikey1969: Just so you know, Coke alters its formula for each different type of packaging, and it's noticeable. A 20 oz bottle tastes pretty consistent, and a 12 oz can tastes pretty consistent, but they taste totally different from each other, as does a 2 liter bottle and a 1 liter bottle.


Hahahaaahaaha no. They do not, and would not, alter the formula for the packaging.  That would be a real logistics nightmare, and utterly pointless - "okay, we're done filling the 1 liter bottles, now purge the entire production line and start making the entirely different formula for the 2 liter bottles."

/you also believed the "Mountain Dew shrinks yer testicles, dude" thing, didn't you
 
2014-02-26 02:52:46 PM
1980 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents
2014 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents

You can't explain that.
 
2014-02-26 03:01:53 PM

yyrkoon: 1980 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents
2014 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents

You can't explain that.


I can.  Soda is cheap and is a loss leader.  Cheap soda gets you in the door so you can then buy overpriced toilet paper.

Seriously, someone explain to me why a product intended to be used to wipe one's ass can run upwards of 6 bucks for a 4 pack.

/buys the cheapest 1 dollar pack o' tp I can find.

//no, I'm not going to stop using tp.  You people that don't use tp are farking gross.
 
2014-02-26 03:19:39 PM

yyrkoon: 1980 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents
2014 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents

You can't explain that.


Yes we can - in 1980 the profit margin to Coke on a 2 liter bottle was 99%.  In 2014 it is 98%.
 
2014-02-26 03:28:30 PM

Ashyukun: Well, this being Fark after all the headline is completely wrong- the government is putting a tax on CANE SUGAR meaning that Coke is considering moving to Fructose which is now cheaper so Mexican Coke may not be made with real sugar but HFCS or something similar in the future.


Which is foul and wrong in so many uncountable ways.
 
2014-02-26 05:12:36 PM

frepnog: yyrkoon: 1980 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents
2014 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents

You can't explain that.

I can.  Soda is cheap and is a loss leader.  Cheap soda gets you in the door so you can then buy overpriced toilet paper.

Seriously, someone explain to me why a product intended to be used to wipe one's ass can run upwards of 6 bucks for a 4 pack.

/buys the cheapest 1 dollar pack o' tp I can find.

//no, I'm not going to stop using tp.  You people that don't use tp are farking gross.


Because killing trees is expensive, and adding carbon and cheap chemical sugars to water is not.
 
2014-02-26 07:09:24 PM

Mikey1969: the difference between Taco Bell and Texas Roadhouse


so not necessarily a taste for quality then, just the ability to distinguish between different flavors of junk?
 
2014-02-26 07:16:47 PM

serial_crusher: Mikey1969: the difference between Taco Bell and Texas Roadhouse

so not necessarily a taste for quality then, just the ability to distinguish between different flavors of junk?


Sorry dude, as Texas Roadhouse actually cuts their meat on site I'm not sure what else they could do, short of tableside blowjobs to make you happy, so we'll just leave it at that.

In other words, nothing ever matches up to your particular 'standards', so I should have known better.
 
2014-02-26 07:35:06 PM

Saiga410: Cymbal: Mexican Coke does taste better though.

/hipster doofus

Do they offer it in anything outside of a glass bottle?  The only way I have had it was in bottle form and it tastes better.  I just am not sure if it is the sugar, less carbonation or the glass bottle.


It's the glass bottle. Buy some 8 oz. glass bottle goodness around Christmas time, they will be HFCS. Tastes awesome like glass bottle Mexican coke.
 
2014-02-26 08:24:28 PM

El Pachuco: yyrkoon: 1980 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents
2014 cost of 2 lt coke .99cents

You can't explain that.

Yes we can - in 1980 the profit margin to Coke on a 2 liter bottle was 99%.  In 2014 it is 98%.


When I worked fast food around 1999 the managers were breaking down the costs of food stuffs to us one day so we'd quit wasting so much damn expensive stuff.  At the time a 20oz Pepsi cost about $1.25, of that price, it was about 25 cents was the cup, 2 cents labor, 2 cents syrup.  His point was reuse your cups during the day instead of take a sip and toss it (or give out 20oz cups for water as a default because those plastic cups were only like 10 cents).
 
2014-02-26 08:58:44 PM

serial_crusher: Has Coke started just making "Mexican Coke" here in the US for all the hipsters?


For the hipsters?

When I was a kid my grandfather used to buy me cokes from a vending machine at his work. That thing was from the 50s and held the little glass bottles of coke. This was before Coca-Cola started using HFCS and plastic bottles. Cold glass and Coke that was sweet but not cloying on a hundred degree day.

You can keep your HFCS swill and plastic bottles.
 
2014-02-26 10:01:26 PM

Mikey1969: Just so you know, Coke alters its formula for each different type of packaging, and it's noticeable.


Citation?
 
2014-02-26 11:56:11 PM

proteus_b: Mikey1969: Just so you know, Coke alters its formula for each different type of packaging, and it's noticeable.

Citation?


Yeah, it was a special I watched on the making of Coke awhile back, but I wasn't able to find it when I had the shirt chance to search it earlier today, so who knows? It was definitely before the days of the monotone 'how it's made' narrator, but at some point when Discovery existed and was still doing actual informative shiat.

I don't care anymore, I got too busy to follow the replies on this anyway.
 
2014-02-27 09:20:33 AM

Mikey1969: don't care anymore, I got too busy to follow the replies on this anyway.


being incredibly wrong will do that.
 
2014-02-27 06:22:41 PM

frepnog: as a serious coke drinker... you are freaking crazy. Coke made with HFCS tastes the same in all packages. The difference you notice is nothing more than the fact that soda tastes different drank from a can than from a plastic bottle. If you pour the canned Coke into a glass and the plastic bottled version into a glass and a\b the stuff, you will taste no difference.

Mexican Coke tastes much better because it is made with real sugar - but poured into a glass beside the American counterpart it is pretty hard to tell the difference. It has a cleaner taste, but nothing amazing.

Also, the water sources can affect taste depending on where it is bottled, but once again, not so much that it is really noticeable.

Coke is Coke is Coke.


This! For all the blathering fools talking about how this or that is better, I seriously doubt many of them could discern one from the other in a blind taste test. But then again, this is Fark, where everyone has a 245 IQ, perfect pitch, a nine-inch dick, and earns hundreds of thousands of dollars saving children from global warming.
 
2014-02-27 09:41:47 PM
sorry, I'm down to swilling 3 cans of american coke (in a can) per night here at work

I lust after mexican coke in a bottle because it DOES taste better and doesn't leave a sickly sweet pepsi generation taste on my teeth afterward.

science? hell no.

but I still know

it's not news, it's gary gnu!
 
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