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(Asbury Park Press)   China bans cookouts because of thick smog. Officials take action after barbecue restaurants start advertising steaks with a choice of leaded, unleaded or diesel   (app.com ) divider line
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2014-02-26 01:42:51 PM  

theorellior: IRQ12: Or are you just saying the very obvious point that the same amount of coal creates the same amount of particulate?

I'm saying that a myriad of small non-point sources can have the same effect as one large point source of pollution. You want to solve the problem, you have to tackle all sources.

One cooking fire is no big deal. A million cooking fires are a very large deal. And this is China, a million cooking fires is probably an understatement.


I think the issue people take with is that the bans put in place penalizes the poorest of the poor with prohibition while the factories, power plants, etc are asked nicely to reduce a bit.
 
2014-02-26 01:48:08 PM  

Mell of a Hess: Anayalator: [i.imgur.com image 768x576]

I wonder how long it will be before the acidity of the fog/smog eats into their buildings.  I bet the engineers of the new buildings have to take that into consideration.

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That's some phallus.  Twists like a pig's, even.


That looks like SUCH a bad idea...
 
2014-02-26 01:50:14 PM  

zepher: Isn't it great that China was completely exempt from the Kyoto treaty and every other pollution controls that the greenies want to foist on the rest of the world?


So was the US, or am I wrong?
 
2014-02-26 01:53:16 PM  

IRQ12: I think the issue people take with is that the bans put in place penalizes the poorest of the poor with prohibition while the factories, power plants, etc are asked nicely to reduce a bit.


True, and that's bad. However, the OP sounded like he couldn't believe a couple of charcoal grills could even be a problem, when they are definitely a major source of soot.
 
2014-02-26 02:13:29 PM  

StrangeQ: Mell of a Hess: Anayalator: [i.imgur.com image 768x576]

I wonder how long it will be before the acidity of the fog/smog eats into their buildings.  I bet the engineers of the new buildings have to don't take that into consideration.

Taking it into consideration would be admitting that there is a problem.  And admitting that there is a problem would be, well, admitting that there is a problem.  The day a single piece of intellectual honesty comes out of China will be the day Republicans start acting like compassionate human beings.


Why were you compelled to throw in an unsolicited reference to Republicans?  What's that got to do with the price of smog in China?

Take a break.
 
2014-02-26 02:30:15 PM  
That's no smog. It's live forever fairy dust. Created by rainbows farted out by unicorns. Only first world countries have smog.

Let's make a deal. I'll recognize that communism in China is in name only if you recognize libertarianism in Somalia is in name only
 
2014-02-26 02:42:30 PM  

Freschel: That's no smog. It's live forever fairy dust. Created by rainbows farted out by unicorns. Only first world countries have smog.

Let's make a deal. I'll recognize that communism in China is in name only if you recognize libertarianism in Somalia is in name only


I'll grant you that, so long as you recognize what some Libertarians propose is what Somalia is - anarchy.
 
2014-02-26 03:27:44 PM  

Allen. The end.: zepher: Isn't it great that China was completely exempt from the Kyoto treaty and every other pollution controls that the greenies want to foist on the rest of the world?

So was the US, or am I wrong?


No you're right, because the Senate didn't approve of the treaty. China just never bothered signing.

It was voluntary for Christ's sake, I'm not sure what Zepher's point is.
 
2014-02-27 03:32:06 PM  

Rindred: Freschel: That's no smog. It's live forever fairy dust. Created by rainbows farted out by unicorns. Only first world countries have smog.

Let's make a deal. I'll recognize that communism in China is in name only if you recognize libertarianism in Somalia is in name only

I'll grant you that, so long as you recognize what some Libertarians propose is what Somalia is - anarchy.


Isn't it what it is, an anarchy?
 
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