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2014-02-26 02:15:51 AM  

ArkAngel: fusillade762: He's not white. There's a shocker.


They also suggested that he could have been on marijuana, a drug that wouldn't necessarily show up in a test.

Even a blood test? Horseshiat.

In this case I believe he means a roadside breath test, something which has yet to be reliably done for someone on marijuana


Roadside saliva tests for marijuana (and other drugs simultaneously) have been used for a few years here in Australia, with high reliability. Of course this is a country where roadside alcohol breath analysis is common.
 
2014-02-26 02:17:10 AM  
Cops hassle a guy during a traffic stop who admitted having one drink ? Sheeeeeeeet, some cops I knew were the biggest drunks in the bar I used to see them in. JJ Foley's in Boston was a popular cop bar, I should have called the cops to report seeing their drunk colleagues stumbling out the place.
 
2014-02-26 02:18:01 AM  

doglover: I want to see a pile of these cops and judges naked in abu grabe


This does not surprise me at all.
 
2014-02-26 02:21:04 AM  
Constable Savage - http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG 2Y
 
2014-02-26 02:26:11 AM  
Abu Grape

When you crave the flavor of ......
 
2014-02-26 02:31:21 AM  

mikaloyd: doglover: I want to see a pile of these cops and judges naked in abu grabe

This does not surprise me at all.


They're terrorists running an operation in the borders of the Continental United States. Just because they didn't come from the middle east doesn't mean we're not at war with them.

Seriously, Texas has more crooked officials than a... crooked museum? I got nothin', but a non-trivial number of these stories come from Texas. And almost 100% of patent trolling happens in one county. It's time to call a spade a spade.
 
2014-02-26 02:34:43 AM  

zerkalo: Texas: It's like a whole other banana republic


I'm pretty sure that you mean Dallas.

Austin is more like Old Navy...
 
2014-02-26 02:38:20 AM  
This is the type of shiat we open ourselves up to when the populace overreacts to DUIs. When someone is impaired it's quite obvious, there's nothing iffy about it, and that should be the only time an arrest is made. Laws that support racism need to be flushed from the system.
 
2014-02-26 02:38:45 AM  

OhioUGrad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede and stop f*cking up our country

/and take Arizona and Kansas the rest of the South with you


We tried. Y'all seem to have gotten a little pissy about that.
 
2014-02-26 02:44:08 AM  

PolyHatSnake: OhioUGrad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede and stop f*cking up our country

/and take Arizona and Kansas the rest of the South with you

We tried. Y'all seem to have gotten a little pissy about that.


Try again, this time without the human rights violations, and it might go smoother.
 
2014-02-26 02:53:34 AM  

MayoSlather: This is the type of shiat we open ourselves up to when the populace overreacts to DUIs. When someone is impaired it's quite obvious, there's nothing iffy about it, and that should be the only time an arrest is made. Laws that support racism need to be flushed from the system.


The real problem with America is our basic hypocrisy which arises from the diverse roots of our culture.

American culture was heavily influenced by the Puritains and to this day the fire and brimstone burns bright in the zeitgeist and all people who break the rules must be PUNISHED as though in the hands of an angry god.

On the other hand, American culture is superficially about acceptance, freedom, and enlightenment. So we try to treat people fairly and not just steamroll the poor into a queue for the gallows or slavery like Britain used to do. So we don't do any sensible(expedient) corporal punishments and instead allow fines.

We are compel the law to punish on a scale far beyond that of the crime, and yet we cannot bring ourselves to allow it to do more than fine them and/or stick them in jail.

So, it allows the police and a crooked judge to set up a very profitable enterprise in a small town. The cops pull people in and charge them with minor BS, the judge collects their checks. And lets not even talk about the money West Texas rakes in on what should be illegal patent litigation. There's an entire town that caters to visiting lawyers.
 
2014-02-26 02:57:50 AM  

Typhoid: What's he complaining about, he's lucky he wasn't sexually assaulted by the cops.


Bwahahaha

Wait, that's probably not a joke at all...
 
2014-02-26 03:26:04 AM  

doglover: mikaloyd: doglover: I want to see a pile of these cops and judges naked in abu grabe

This does not surprise me at all.

They're terrorists running an operation in the borders of the Continental United States. Just because they didn't come from the middle east doesn't mean we're not at war with them.

Seriously, Texas has more crooked officials than a... crooked museum? I got nothin', but a non-trivial number of these stories come from Texas. And almost 100% of patent trolling happens in one county. It's time to call a spade a spade.


I fully expect to see you giving Chicago both barrels at the top of the queue now Cap'n
 
2014-02-26 03:36:00 AM  
If he was displaying signs and symptoms of intoxication, that can be DWI even if there is no alcohol present. Swaying on one leg and needing arms to balance could be intoxication or just poor balance on a potentially uneven surface. A breath test doesn't reveal  any other drugs you may be on at the time and a blood test has to go to the lab and be analyzed so that can take weeks.  You can get a DWI for prescription medicine you are taking, legal substances that impair driving, any substance even if there isn't a positive breath test.

Assuming the suspect/victim of the arrest is stating the truth that the balance issues and traffic violation were the only recognizable symptom, that is a little iffy. However we don't have the police report to verify his story so there may be a little skepticism.  It may be tough to expunge the arrest depending on the requirements of Texas as a judge could find there was probable cause for the arrest even if ultimately there is not enough evidence to proceed.  Not every arrest leads to a charge but not every arrest that isn't charged had no basis for that officers actions.  This case seems a little light, but we don't have the whole story, just the victim/suspects version.
 
2014-02-26 03:44:38 AM  
Came to see if the guy was black, leaving 100% unsurprised.
 
2014-02-26 03:50:10 AM  
if you are a cop, you are a power tripping asshole and you should shoot yourself.
 
2014-02-26 03:56:31 AM  
I got a DUI in Texas for driving a sports car while having long hair at night.  They lost the video tape of me 'failing' the physical sobriety test, and the breathalyzer "broke down" and the memory was blank ;)

I heard from another officer friend who said that the arresting officer thought that, since I was a long-haired hippie driving a sports car at night, maybe I was delivering drugs or something.  Nope.  I was visiting my girlfriend on the weekend ;)
 
2014-02-26 04:07:43 AM  

mikaloyd: doglover: mikaloyd: doglover: I want to see a pile of these cops and judges naked in abu grabe

This does not surprise me at all.

They're terrorists running an operation in the borders of the Continental United States. Just because they didn't come from the middle east doesn't mean we're not at war with them.

Seriously, Texas has more crooked officials than a... crooked museum? I got nothin', but a non-trivial number of these stories come from Texas. And almost 100% of patent trolling happens in one county. It's time to call a spade a spade.

I fully expect to see you giving Chicago both barrels at the top of the queue now Cap'n


Texas first. Then LAPD, then Chi town
 
2014-02-26 04:08:55 AM  
Why is the South really bad at everything, including being 2014 human beings?  I don't get why they haven't caught up the rest of civilization....
 
2014-02-26 04:25:10 AM  
Will there ever be a news story that would make anyone on the coasts want to move to Texas?
 
2014-02-26 04:32:34 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: The Austin Police Department stands by the arrest, saying they believed Davis showed signs of impairment, that while standing on one leg, he "swayed," and "needed his arms for balance."

So, having a balance impairment is an arrestable offense?


If it's not medically documented as a medical issue with some confirmation from a doctor, actually the testimony of the police officer is considered legally sufficient evidence of impairment regardless of what the test says.

Well, legally, and in terms of filing charges... actually convicting someone is pretty much impossible if they requested a blood test and came up negative, which is why the cops generally won't use their discretion to override it.  It's sort of an exercise in futility to toss things to the DA that are impossible to prosecute successfully.
 
2014-02-26 04:46:35 AM  

doglover: Texas first. Then LAPD, then Chi town


Texas has its share of good ol' boys bullshiat, but it has  nothing on Chicago.  And actually the cities in TX are relatively clean, we've just got more rural areas and thus more of the small-town bullshiat that exists in small-town everywhere.  Chicago has had its police force  literally working for organized crime at one point.

All that said, the larger point being ignored here is that anyone that thinks any state but Louisiana comes out on top for anything corruption-related  really hasn't been paying attention.  Works commissioners having a literal fridge stuffed with cash for and from under-the-table dealings  barely even made the news in-state there.
 
2014-02-26 04:56:44 AM  
That's why you always make sure your partner is drunk or stoned so you can get a good reading on those tests.

Don't leave this stuff to chance
 
2014-02-26 05:00:43 AM  
For roadside tests, always ask the officer to demonstrate, then question his sobriety.
 
2014-02-26 05:19:53 AM  
What happens if you decline to answer the question of whether you've been drinking by invoking the 5th Amendment?  Assuming you're not a Yankees fan DWB in Texas, in which case you're always screwed.
 
2014-02-26 05:33:53 AM  
Driving While Impaired. My mentally ill aunt gets popped for DWI all the time, usually as a result of certain drugs not being in her system.

Interesting to see if they can prove impairment in court though, given that they're apparently not even clear on whether it was a stop sign or light.
 
2014-02-26 06:09:17 AM  

Myria: Yankees fan


Is an American wearing a NY cap usually a fan? I've seen plenty of Europeans over here wearing those things who don't even watch baseball.

/and of course "Yankee" here means "person from the USA"
 
2014-02-26 06:09:20 AM  

August11: Will there ever be a news story that would make anyone on the coasts want to move to Texas?


I *did*read an article about how Texas has attracted many people due to the job market and a lower cost of living...

/ still not going to move there, most of it looks like a barren wasteland compared to the Pacific Northwest...
 
2014-02-26 06:18:03 AM  
DWB actually IS on the books in Texas. You can be arrested for driving while black.
 
2014-02-26 06:20:19 AM  
The real news here is they found a black guy in Austin!
 
2014-02-26 06:20:27 AM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Linkster: Typhoid: What's he complaining about, he's lucky he wasn't sexually assaulted by the cops.

That's New Mexico.

See kids, even if you do something that is not that serious, the 'System' can and will fark up your life if they want.

That's a reference to the chief in Texas, who while defending officers for arresting a jogger for jaywalking implied she was lucky she wasn't sexually assaulted by police like in other places.


For the last time, that's not what he said.  He was exasperated about the situation being blown up as much as it was, and said "Man, other PDs have to deal with farking sexual assaults being committed by their officers.  If this is the worst scandal that my department has to deal with, I must be doing something right,".  I distrust the direction that police are going as much as anyone, but lying about this sort of thing serves no one.

/inb4 someone calls me a fascist bootliker
 
2014-02-26 06:29:26 AM  

mchaboud: zerkalo: Texas: It's like a whole other banana republic

I'm pretty sure that you mean Dallas.

Austin is more like Old Navy...


With a pinch of PacSun
 
2014-02-26 06:31:48 AM  
Austin PD only became accredited by CALEA in 2000.

He may have run a red light (article said reports vary) so he might not just have "rolled" a stop sign.  Either way, those penalties should be increased.   People are maimed and killed from such actions.
 
2014-02-26 06:33:24 AM  

August11: Will there ever be a news story that would make anyone on the coasts want to move to Texas?


Check back this summer when the wildfires really get going. Meanwhile, despite our oh-so-obvious flaws, people keep flocking here in record numbers
 
2014-02-26 06:40:32 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: August11: Will there ever be a news story that would make anyone on the coasts want to move to Texas?

I *did*read an article about how Texas has attracted many people due to the job market and a lower cost of living...

/ still not going to move there, most of it looks like a barren wasteland compared to the Pacific Northwest...


I kinda like the landscape. It is the people that concern me. I've known five Texans. All five are some of the best people I have ever met in my life. Any simple question about why they are no longer there will be answered along the lines of they had to get the hell out. So who did they leave behind??
 
2014-02-26 06:42:23 AM  
To be honest I don't see the problem here IF and it is indeed a big if;

A) The arrest is expunged
B) His legal costs are reimbursed
C) A small settlement for his inconvenience is given and in a perfect world it would be garnished from the wages of the officers who arrested him

The police should have the power to remove any driver from the road under a suspicion of intoxication.  There are hundreds of ways that a person can impair themselves and only so much room for testing kits in a cruiser. The officers in this case stepped way over the line but legislating the need to have a positive test for an arrest would be a mistake.
 
2014-02-26 06:48:47 AM  

morg: If the case was dismissed why does he have to clean up the arrest?


If the case is dismissed the arrest shows on you record forever.

/happened to me
/lawyer said "too bad"
/Florida
 
2014-02-26 06:51:17 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede and stop f*cking up our country

/and take Arizona and Kansas with you


OhioUGrad: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede and stop f*cking up our country

/and take Arizona and Kansas the rest of the South with you


Stay in New York eh?
 
2014-02-26 06:56:20 AM  
Those DWI tests can be pretty hard..

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-26 07:05:38 AM  

Jim_Callahan: doglover: Texas first. Then LAPD, then Chi town

Texas has its share of good ol' boys bullshiat, but it has  nothing on Chicago.  And actually the cities in TX are relatively clean, we've just got more rural areas and thus more of the small-town bullshiat that exists in small-town everywhere.  Chicago has had its police force  literally working for organized crime at one point.

All that said, the larger point being ignored here is that anyone that thinks any state but Louisiana comes out on top for anything corruption-related  really hasn't been paying attention.  Works commissioners having a literal fridge stuffed with cash for and from under-the-table dealings  barely even made the news in-state there.


Louisiana hardly feels like a part of the same country. Chicago, Texas, LA, and Florida are all relatively cohesive, no matter how stupid and corrupt, but Louisiana in general and New Orleans in particular are so alien that they might as well be Cancun. Everything from the legal system to the language to the food to the partying is just so different from the rest of the country, it's hard to even compare them.

And that's awesome.

/Hawaii and Alaska are similar, but at least have the excuse of being thousands of miles from the rest of us.
 
2014-02-26 07:06:29 AM  

parahaps: Candygram for Mongo: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Linkster: Typhoid: What's he complaining about, he's lucky he wasn't sexually assaulted by the cops.

That's New Mexico.

See kids, even if you do something that is not that serious, the 'System' can and will fark up your life if they want.

That's a reference to the chief in Texas, who while defending officers for arresting a jogger for jaywalking implied she was lucky she wasn't sexually assaulted by police like in other places.


Specifically the chief in Austin, Tx.   What's the deal with Austin pd?

Austin is full of those hipsters that are always insisting that not all of Texas is awful. The PD is full of people that are pissed off with hipsters trying to make Texas not-awful.


I've only been there two weeks in the last two years, but I find this is shockingly accurate.

Hilariously it seems one of their slogans is "keep Austin weird." If THAT town is the weird one... yikes. Maybe the new slogan needs to be "help Austin unclench."
 
2014-02-26 07:13:20 AM  

Typhoid: parahaps: Candygram for Mongo: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Linkster: Typhoid: What's he complaining about, he's lucky he wasn't sexually assaulted by the cops.

That's New Mexico.

See kids, even if you do something that is not that serious, the 'System' can and will fark up your life if they want.

That's a reference to the chief in Texas, who while defending officers for arresting a jogger for jaywalking implied she was lucky she wasn't sexually assaulted by police like in other places.


Specifically the chief in Austin, Tx.   What's the deal with Austin pd?

Austin is full of those hipsters that are always insisting that not all of Texas is awful. The PD is full of people that are pissed off with hipsters trying to make Texas not-awful.

I've only been there two weeks in the last two years, but I find this is shockingly accurate.

Hilariously it seems one of their slogans is "keep Austin weird." If THAT town is the weird one... yikes. Maybe the new slogan needs to be "help Austin unclench."


Austin hasn't been weird for 2 decades. Today, it's a glorified suburb of Houston and Dallas, where fraidy cat whites go to flee the minorities found in the cities
 
2014-02-26 07:18:46 AM  
The APD said they're going by a "take-no-chances" policy.

so put everyone in jail for the night?
 
2014-02-26 07:24:22 AM  
Police Chief: "At least the officers didn't sexually assault him."
 
2014-02-26 07:26:52 AM  

doublesecretprobation: The APD said they're going by a "take-no-chances" policy.

so put everyone in jail for the night?


It's really the only way to be safe. Better safe than sorry. If you see something, say something.
 
2014-02-26 07:29:38 AM  

Pokey.Clyde: r1niceboy: Texas can feel free to succeed, but the places that they can take with them would result in there being a few islands of normalcy surrounded by the Confederated HOAs of Merica.

Erm, that word doesn't mean what you think it means.



izquotes.com
 
2014-02-26 07:30:37 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede and stop f*cking up our country

/and take Arizona and Kansas with you


It will never happen. TX is poised to go BLUE state in a few years. Just be patient, you dont want to give up a dependent voting block as big as that
 
2014-02-26 07:32:06 AM  

doublesecretprobation: The APD said they're going by a "take-no-chances" policy.

so put everyone in jail for the night?


Now to be officially referred to as the "Texas sleepover"?
 
2014-02-26 07:33:26 AM  

sprgrss: What magistrate agreed there was PC on that?


A white one.
 
2014-02-26 07:35:04 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: The Austin Police Department stands by the arrest, saying they believed Davis showed signs of impairment, that while standing on one leg, he "swayed," and "needed his arms for balance."

So, having a balance impairment is an arrestable offense?



Yeah, I'm not always 100% steady on my feet, either, but it's largely because I have a poor diet---a metric shiat ton of caffeine and sugar---and often get too little sleep.    The caffeine can make me a bit wobbly.
 
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