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2014-02-25 09:50:22 AM  
This thread has been done.
 
2014-02-25 09:51:08 AM  
But where are the nipples?
 
2014-02-25 09:51:55 AM  
Can it stop bullets? Casue if it can't, it's useless
 
2014-02-25 09:52:02 AM  
I don't know...

If I were looking for a 'real' batsuit, I go to the people who make actual combat equipment for the military, not "...a LOTR and Hobbit armor specialist".
 
2014-02-25 09:53:26 AM  
If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.
 
2014-02-25 09:54:42 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


Epic lolz
 
2014-02-25 09:55:52 AM  
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Guaranteed for the life of the user.
 
2014-02-25 09:57:06 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


Fourteen unbelievable ways that Shakin_Haitian will murder all of you, and it's pretty awesome.
 
2014-02-25 09:58:05 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


If wearing that suit, no you won't.
 
2014-02-25 09:59:12 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


www.firedaily.com
 
2014-02-25 09:59:52 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.

Fourteen unbelievable ways that Shakin_Haitian will murder all of you, and it's pretty awesome.

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2014-02-25 10:01:34 AM  
What if someone attacks him with a point-ed stick?
 
2014-02-25 10:01:45 AM  
www.blogcdn.com
meh.  Wake me when he makes an IRL Iron Man suit.

/Hurtibise is crazy in the best way.
 
2014-02-25 10:02:45 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What if someone attacks him with a point-ed stick?


Don't go getting all high and mighty.
 
2014-02-25 10:03:00 AM  
Perfect for beating up protesters without getting hurt, authoritarian regimes everywhere can buy them for their goons. How do you like your efforts now hobbit nerd?
 
2014-02-25 10:03:26 AM  
static.bips.channel4.com
 
2014-02-25 10:04:15 AM  
Damn you fireclown!
 
2014-02-25 10:04:29 AM  
 
2014-02-25 10:05:25 AM  
Faeg i-varv dîn na lanc a nu ranc.
 
2014-02-25 10:08:55 AM  
This is bullshiat for nerds who collect swords.  Tell us when it's bulletproof.
 
2014-02-25 10:10:57 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


That post was pretty awesome.
 
2014-02-25 10:12:29 AM  

topcon: This is bullshiat for nerds who collect swords.  Tell us when it's bulletproof.


... and if someone does develop bullet resistant armor that doesn't kill your mobility you'll push the goal posts back and want repulsors, jets, and an ARC reactor on it too.

You're not wrong necessarily to question the actual utility of this or other such armor in this modern age however.
 
2014-02-25 10:12:37 AM  
Effective demonstration of being able to take a blunt attack.  BUT:

1) Did not see any slashing or piercing attacks.

2) Did not see any real gymnastics performed in video.

3) Did not see any attacks aimed at the joints.

Conclusion:

Not particularly better than standard body armor.

You want to impress me, then either use a knife/spear, do some handstands etc., or show the guy hitting your elbow or at least the hip.  (where they had to use soft, flexible stuff, rather than hard plastics)
 
2014-02-25 10:20:48 AM  
I was sad to learn that it's not a suit made of bats.
 
2014-02-25 10:21:18 AM  

tarkin1: Effective demonstration of being able to take a blunt attack.  BUT:

1) Did not see any slashing or piercing attacks.

2) Did not see any real gymnastics performed in video.

3) Did not see any attacks aimed at the joints.

Conclusion:

Not particularly better than standard body armor.

You want to impress me, then either use a knife/spear, do some handstands etc., or show the guy hitting your elbow or at least the hip.  (where they had to use soft, flexible stuff, rather than hard plastics)


there's carbon nanofiber fabrics that can do that. and stop bullets. but they're really expensive. REALLY expensive. but nothing a Bruce Wayne couldn't buy or even develop himself.
 
2014-02-25 10:21:28 AM  
Great idea.

If you want to get killed.

One of the reasons that police and military don't wear full combat armour NOW, is that it slows you down. This tech has been out for years. I don't want to wear something that's going to impedes my vision or hearing. I don't want something that's hot, cold, or cumbersome. And to make it bullet resistant, you'd have to add weight.

Sure, it's nice to look at, but there isn't a practical use outside of riot control.
 
2014-02-25 10:22:05 AM  

cgraves67: I don't know...

If I were looking for a 'real' batsuit, I go to the people who make actual combat equipment for the military, not "...a LOTR and Hobbit armor specialist".


I wouldn't.  The military is only interested in acquiring inexpensive, mass producible armor that will protect a soldier's vital areas 90% of the time and little else.  It's not going to spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars required to create fully articulate suites of armor that would have to be tailor fit to each individual solder.
 
2014-02-25 10:23:53 AM  

cgraves67: I don't know...

If I were looking for a 'real' batsuit, I go to the people who make actual combat equipment for the military, not "...a LOTR and Hobbit armor specialist".


I *do* make actual combat equipment for the military. This thing is just a combat training suit for the crowd that's made it out of their mom's basement and into the local mall dojo. Military/police training is mostly done in Red Suits, and I'm guessing that will continue as those are relatively inexpensive and a lot more forgiving on the fit. This kit looks like it's pretty substantially customized to the user.

There is constantly work going on to make combat armor that is more anatomically shaped, lighter, more effective and more mobile. The technical challenge is splitting armor along the functional bits of the human body so as to allow movement. Given how those junctions also often contain some super delicate anatomy, it's a difficult problem to solve - notice how this suit totally forgoes even attempting to protect the proximal medial thigh area (i.e. left and right of his nut sack). Not only does an injury here impair mobility severely, it also leaves the femoral artery vulnerable (a common combat injury).

If anyone remembers from a few years back, when parents were literally buying their sons "better" body armor when they deployed to Iraq/Afghanistan, there was a hubbub about something called Dragon Skin armor. It was basically a bunch of hexagon shaped ceramic disks held together in an overlapping mesh and the Army ordered it all off the battlefield, causing a minor outrage. Turns out, while the Dragon Skin marketing material was fantastically effective, what they didn't tell you was that once an area was hit (thus busting the ceramic hexagon bits in that area), a full quarter of the face of Dragon Skin became as effective as a sheet of paper for the *next* round/shrapnel behind it.

Both large and small outfits have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into building better armor. These guys aren't it.
 
2014-02-25 10:26:19 AM  
Poor guy in TF Comments fighting a losing battle against the headline

The suit isn't intended as self defense street-wear, it's specifically for armed combat sports.

The suit isn't intended as self defense street-wear, it's specifically designed for armed combat sports competition.

The UWM armor is specifically designed for armed combat sports competition, using relatively safe weapon simulators. It's not intended for any form of real-life self defense or close-combat.

No - referring to the UWM suits as "Batman's perfect Batsuit" was a choice by Meredith Woerner in posting on io9. It has nothing to do with the official promotion for the suits.

The object isn't to become part of "MMA proper", it's to start a new armed combat sport league, comparable to MMA in that it's open to all styles
 
2014-02-25 10:33:52 AM  

StrangeQ: cgraves67: I don't know...

If I were looking for a 'real' batsuit, I go to the people who make actual combat equipment for the military, not "...a LOTR and Hobbit armor specialist".

I wouldn't.  The military is only interested in acquiring inexpensive, mass producible armor that will protect a soldier's vital areas 90% of the time and little else.  It's not going to spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars required to create fully articulate suites of armor that would have to be tailor fit to each individual solder.


You're not wrong, but at least the people that make those know more about actual armor than the props and costumes department at MGM.
 
2014-02-25 10:34:24 AM  
My one small trick for murdering you all

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2014-02-25 10:37:40 AM  

psychometrix: The suit isn't intended as self defense street-wear, it's specifically for armed combat sports.


I'm just happy I live in a future where self driving cars, broadband information transfer and combat sports armor are things.
 
2014-02-25 10:43:27 AM  

grinding_journalist: psychometrix: The suit isn't intended as self defense street-wear, it's specifically for armed combat sports.

I'm just happy I live in a future where self driving cars, broadband information transfer and combat sports armor are things.


Well said
 
2014-02-25 10:43:46 AM  
I'm reminded of the ads for the computer game where somebody praises the way the authentic way the unicorns were rendered.
 
2014-02-25 10:44:50 AM  

fireclown: [www.blogcdn.com image 280x400]
meh.  Wake me when he makes an IRL Iron Man suit.

/Hurtibise is crazy in the best way.


// older school says "WHAT?!"
 
2014-02-25 10:46:04 AM  
Well, that was awkward. [robot-jox.jpg]

// a 1989 film, about a future where "wars" are fought by men in mech-suits, one-on-one for all the marbles
 
2014-02-25 10:48:32 AM  
And by real, we mean fake but looks cool.
 
2014-02-25 10:48:47 AM  

psychometrix: The object isn't to become part of "MMA proper", it's to start a new armed combat sport league, comparable to MMA in that it's open to all styles


I would be the last person on here to endorse MMA as it exists now. What you're talking about makes perfect sense.

Twenty years from now, will MMA have morphed into something with stronger weapons? MUCH stronger weapons?
BattleBots combined with MMA is basically ... well. You know.
 
2014-02-25 10:48:51 AM  

Crudbucket: Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.

Epic lolz


Neil Degrassi Tyson trolled Gravity on Twitter and its hilarious.
 
2014-02-25 10:53:55 AM  
This armor's a few hundred years late. "Our armor allows for mobility!" Yeah, so does literally every other kind of useful armor ever made. You can do acrobatics in plate mail - if your range of movement was restricted, then there would be no reason to wear it in the first place

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7naZ08Jd4
 
2014-02-25 11:02:14 AM  
I would rather have come into this thread and seen a hot chick in a cat suit... so...

images.monstermarketplace.com
 
2014-02-25 11:07:37 AM  
I think people are mistaking the purpose of this armor.  Despite the io9 headline, this stuff is about creating better pads for full combat martial arts.  The idea is to create a protective garment that will allow people to smack each other with staffs, batons, full strength kicks, etc.

In other words, this is better SPORT gear, not intended for military or police (or batman) purposes.  It's not for beating up thugs, it's for beating up your buddy with a waster using full strength blows and not breaking him or her.

And from THAT perspective, it also looks like it has a few problems.
-The gorget piece looks like it's not high enough to protect the throat from a shot glancing up from the chest.  Though I can't tell if the helmet locks into the breast plate, if it does then that would solve the issue.
-It looks like they haven't solved the issue with the pauldrons restricting you from lifting your arms above your shoulders.
-Big gap between the pauldron and the breastplate
-There is no protection for the front of the hips, and let me personally assure you that it SUCKS to take a shot in the hip flexors.  Get some Cuisses or at least tassets.
-The leg armor is supported by a pretty skinny looking waist belt, I bet that'll dig in like a mofo.  You want a nice wide belt to support the weight on your hips.  Or, even better, have it secure to the torso piece and support the weight with your shoulders.
-All those cool looking ridges and armor sections on the breastplate have got to go.  You want blows to glance off, not stick in a crack.


It does look a lot more flexible and comfortable than a steel kit, I'll give them full credit for that.  And most of the problems I listed above also existed in the armor I wore.  And it certainly looks like it'll be more pleasant to ride a horse wearing that stuff (with the possible exception of the cup, that might suck a lot on a saddle).
 
2014-02-25 11:12:23 AM  

abhorrent1: Can it stop bullets? Casue if it can't, it's useless


""real""
 
2014-02-25 11:14:03 AM  
I like what the Thai boxer said. Something like "I can hit him as hard as I like and I don`t have to worry about him. It`s also nice to have something firm to kick against. Good for the knuckles. Very nice."


Also, hit him on the hips. That is all.
 
2014-02-25 11:20:57 AM  

Running a-puck: I think people are mistaking the purpose of this armor.  Despite the io9 headline, this stuff is about creating better pads for full combat martial arts.  The idea is to create a protective garment that will allow people to smack each other with staffs, batons, full strength kicks, etc.

In other words, this is better SPORT gear, not intended for military or police (or batman) purposes.  It's not for beating up thugs, it's for beating up your buddy with a waster using full strength blows and not breaking him or her.

And from THAT perspective, it also looks like it has a few problems.
-The gorget piece looks like it's not high enough to protect the throat from a shot glancing up from the chest.  Though I can't tell if the helmet locks into the breast plate, if it does then that would solve the issue.
-It looks like they haven't solved the issue with the pauldrons restricting you from lifting your arms above your shoulders.
-Big gap between the pauldron and the breastplate
-There is no protection for the front of the hips, and let me personally assure you that it SUCKS to take a shot in the hip flexors.  Get some Cuisses or at least tassets.
-The leg armor is supported by a pretty skinny looking waist belt, I bet that'll dig in like a mofo.  You want a nice wide belt to support the weight on your hips.  Or, even better, have it secure to the torso piece and support the weight with your shoulders.
-All those cool looking ridges and armor sections on the breastplate have got to go.  You want blows to glance off, not stick in a crack.

It does look a lot more flexible and comfortable than a steel kit, I'll give them full credit for that.  And most of the problems I listed above also existed in the armor I wore.  And it certainly looks like it'll be more pleasant to ride a horse wearing that stuff (with the possible exception of the cup, that might suck a lot on a saddle).


I'm still waiting on them to develop something like this for American murderball, i.e. football
 
2014-02-25 11:21:23 AM  

dready zim: lso, hit him on the hips. That is all.


Yeah came in to say that.  First, could they have found a THINNER stick to use?  Second, with that thin stick, why not gouge at all that exposed leg/hip?  Third, remarkable that with the batcowl in place the guy BARELY MOVES, and when he actually has to move a bit for the second video, the mask/helmet has to come off.

Don't know if this was sponsored or not, but it wasn't impressive.

/don't know anything about fighting or armor
 
2014-02-25 11:35:22 AM  

Running a-puck: I think people are mistaking the purpose of this armor.  Despite the io9 headline, this stuff is about creating better pads for full combat martial arts.  The idea is to create a protective garment that will allow people to smack each other with staffs, batons, full strength kicks, etc.

In other words, this is better SPORT gear, not intended for military or police (or batman) purposes.  It's not for beating up thugs, it's for beating up your buddy with a waster using full strength blows and not breaking him or her.

And from THAT perspective, it also looks like it has a few problems.
-The gorget piece looks like it's not high enough to protect the throat from a shot glancing up from the chest.  Though I can't tell if the helmet locks into the breast plate, if it does then that would solve the issue.
-It looks like they haven't solved the issue with the pauldrons restricting you from lifting your arms above your shoulders.
-Big gap between the pauldron and the breastplate
-There is no protection for the front of the hips, and let me personally assure you that it SUCKS to take a shot in the hip flexors.  Get some Cuisses or at least tassets.
-The leg armor is supported by a pretty skinny looking waist belt, I bet that'll dig in like a mofo.  You want a nice wide belt to support the weight on your hips.  Or, even better, have it secure to the torso piece and support the weight with your shoulders.
-All those cool looking ridges and armor sections on the breastplate have got to go.  You want blows to glance off, not stick in a crack.

It does look a lot more flexible and comfortable than a steel kit, I'll give them full credit for that.  And most of the problems I listed above also existed in the armor I wore.  And it certainly looks like it'll be more pleasant to ride a horse wearing that stuff (with the possible exception of the cup, that might suck a lot on a saddle).


All of this is true.  I created about half of my armor when heavy fighting in the SCA. There was a lot of trial and error (error meaning armor bite and bruises).  The thing that popped for me was there is little to no butt protection.  I remember getting hit their by a little women who had the whippiest shot. She was fast and really strong I don't think I even knew what happened, I just yelled good and laid on the ground for a while I could barely sit down (and I had a 5 hour drive back home to Phoenix).
 
2014-02-25 11:35:23 AM  
My main kvetch is that they're just standing there hitting each other. Unless they make it against the rules of the sport, the intelligent thing to do is to try to enter on a parry or strike and take the other guy to the ground, Fiore-style. Doubly so if you're wearing armor.
 
2014-02-25 11:37:14 AM  
m855
checkmate.
 
2014-02-25 11:39:57 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: If I see the phrase, "and it's pretty awesome," one more time, I will murder all of you.


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