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(UPI)   House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, (R-eally hopeful) predicts the GOP will win back control of the Senate in November and retain control of the House. So maybe we just miscalculated the actual date of Ragnarok   (upi.com) divider line 111
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2014-02-25 09:55:51 AM  
Why, does he have another chance to make a windfall if America's economy hits the shiatter?
 
2014-02-25 09:55:55 AM  
But he said most people aren't thinking about the midterm elections year.


And yet that's all Cantor and his crew think about it.
 
2014-02-25 09:59:07 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: But he said most people aren't thinking about the midterm elections year.


And yet that's all Cantor and his crew think about it.


His crew being every politician of both parties.
 
2014-02-25 09:59:12 AM  
Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?
 
2014-02-25 10:01:44 AM  
I think he might be right.  I've got a bad feeling about this election.  Wingnuts will still turn out in record numbers like they always do -- confident that government is the problem and the election of more people who want to break government will fix it.  Meanwhile Democrats and liberals are mostly demoralized -- for various reasons.  Democrats can't win because their dumb party constituents refuse to show the hell up.
 
2014-02-25 10:01:46 AM  
Just like 2010 and 2012, the Republicans are in prime position to take the Senate.  And just like in 2010 and 2012, the Republicans' biggest threat is themselves.
 
2014-02-25 10:02:01 AM  
"They're focused on their own difficulties right now in getting through the month and making sure their job is there, and we want to stay focused on those issues."

And such a cracking good job they've done on the job front in the past 5 years, too.
 
2014-02-25 10:03:57 AM  
To the Nate

NeverDrunk23: Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?


To the Nate Silver mobile!
 
2014-02-25 10:04:16 AM  
I've been wrong before, and, typically, the minority party does well in mid-terms, but I think the GOP is in for a surprise this Fall, if they actually believe this.
 
2014-02-25 10:05:53 AM  
Oblig:
Eric Cantor's biatch face (dot) tumblr (dot) com
 
2014-02-25 10:06:01 AM  
How would winning the Senate change anything?

Seriously. Obama would just veto every stupid thing that came to the table. The only thing the House can pass is gas.
 
2014-02-25 10:06:38 AM  

EyeballKid: Why, does he have another chance to make a windfall if America's economy hits the shiatter?


That's the part where I get really confused about the right-wing agenda. They seem hell bent to turn 99% of us into feudal peasants... but we're the ones buying the goods and services that keep them wealthy. Don't know about them, but I can squeeze more juice from a watermelon than from a raisin.
 
2014-02-25 10:09:06 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?


Technically, yes.  There are more Democrat seats up for election in the Senate than there are GOP seats, and it is more than enough to flip the Senate. The real question is how many of those Democrat seats are "safe" and how many GOP seats are safe. A year ago I wouldn't have guessed that McConnell's seat might be in jeopardy, but it might actually be in play.

And then you also have to consider that a number of Republicans are getting sick of the Tea Party and the half-breeds they've been choosing to run on the pro-rape platform, and wonder just how many seats they can actually win.

Let's just say I don't agree with Cantor's assessment of the situation in the Senate. I'm pretty sure the GOP will hold the House, but I don't think that's a guarantee.

I think the 2016 election will need to be a HUGE concern for the GOP, as all of those derpy Senators that got elected on the Tea Party tidal wave will be up for election.
 
2014-02-25 10:10:21 AM  

bdub77: How would winning the Senate change anything?

Seriously. Obama would just veto every stupid thing that came to the table. The only thing the House can pass is gas.


Well, we'd finally be rid of the filibuster....
 
2014-02-25 10:11:03 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?


Anything's possible....

Right now there are 36 spots up, with Republicans needing 21 of 36. From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014

It appears that Republicans are leading comfortably in 19 races, and a slight lead in another. If they get one or two to fall their way, they'd be there.

And then we can expect the nation to grind to a halt for 2 more years....
 
2014-02-25 10:11:51 AM  
It's certainly a possibility. Even if they win it's likely they won't have a veto-proof majority, so the gridlock in the House will merely extend itself to the Senate. which already has its hands tied by the gridlock in the House. t's already the do-nothing-est Congress in history. This will just make it do-nothing-er.

A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.
 
2014-02-25 10:12:08 AM  

Dog Welder: NeverDrunk23: Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?

Technically, yes.  There are more Democrat seats up for election in the Senate than there are GOP seats, and it is more than enough to flip the Senate. The real question is how many of those Democrat seats are "safe" and how many GOP seats are safe. A year ago I wouldn't have guessed that McConnell's seat might be in jeopardy, but it might actually be in play.

And then you also have to consider that a number of Republicans are getting sick of the Tea Party and the half-breeds they've been choosing to run on the pro-rape platform, and wonder just how many seats they can actually win.

Let's just say I don't agree with Cantor's assessment of the situation in the Senate. I'm pretty sure the GOP will hold the House, but I don't think that's a guarantee.

I think the 2016 election will need to be a HUGE concern for the GOP, as all of those derpy Senators that got elected on the Tea Party tidal wave will be up for election.


The derpiest of the senate will probably all be running for president then.
 
2014-02-25 10:12:13 AM  
It's very possible that they could take the Senate....... As long as they avoid speaking.
 
2014-02-25 10:15:25 AM  
If they do they'll try to run a smash and grab on the middle class for the next 2 years so Obama will have to get his veto pen ready.
 
2014-02-25 10:17:19 AM  

clambam: A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.



Of course they'll try to impeach Obama. You know that's exactly what many of them are dreaming of doing.
 
2014-02-25 10:17:41 AM  
"Brothers lift hands against one another; the ties of kinship are torn; full of hate is the world and of shameless adultery; ax-time this is, and sword-time, shields are cloven; storm-time this is, and wolf-time; the end of the Earth."
  - the Prose Edda RAND PAUL
 
2014-02-25 10:18:59 AM  

Headso: If they do they'll try to run a smash and grab on the middle class for the next 2 years so Obama will have to get his veto pen ready.


True, but there's enough legislation and policy already in place that the middle class is getting hammered.  Dem control of congress and the presidency would be better, but even they're not as invested in supporting the middle class as they should be.  Too much money in politics.
 
2014-02-25 10:19:27 AM  

phaseolus: clambam: A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.


Of course they'll try to impeach Obama. You know that's exactly what many of them are dreaming of doing.


They could certainly try. I mean they'd have to trump up some charges. I would love it if they tried to impeach Obama. The backlash would be spectacular.
 
2014-02-25 10:21:51 AM  

Mjeck: To the Nate Silver mobile!


As of last July, he was calling Senate control a tossup. So far as I can see, not much has changed for the better for the GOP since then, suggesting that as usual for politicians, Cantor's bold proclamations are more posturing than substance.
 
2014-02-25 10:22:34 AM  
The DCCC should know that their strategy is simple:  Keep reminding people who cause the government shutdown; the GOP.  A single message should pay in every area where a Democrat has a 40% chance or better of winning / keeping their elected position.  They should also target areas where government workers were put on PAYLESS leave.   The DCCC may not flip all the moderate Republicans voters to change their vote, but they may get enough of them to just sit out the 2014 election.  Like my parents, they held their nose to vote R in 2012; they cant bring themselves to do it again in 2014.

But alas, the DCCC wont.  Its not that Democrats need to grow a spine, they need to grow a set of teeth.
 
2014-02-25 10:26:47 AM  

clambam: It's certainly a possibility. Even if they win it's likely they won't have a veto-proof majority, so the gridlock in the House will merely extend itself to the Senate. which already has its hands tied by the gridlock in the House. t's already the do-nothing-est Congress in history. This will just make it do-nothing-er.

A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.


No one is getting impeached and removed.

Every sitting president in recent memory has had the "if this and this, THEN x, y AND z will happen..."

Remember how sure some folks were that Bush was going to initiate martial and never leave office, ect.?

This is the same old nonsense. Public servents will waste the vast majority of their (our) time raising money to falsely accuse their opponent of eating babies and then carrying out the orders of the highest bidders.

/sorry, still new to this tab
 
2014-02-25 10:26:51 AM  
The Republican Party has fractured pretty badly in the last year. I wonder how much this will affect them.

Not every Republican supports the Tea Party crazies anymore..... And not every Republican supports RINOs.

/I'm not sure this will help though, Dems suck at midterms and they aren't particularly riled up for anything right now. Our turnout will probably suck.
 
2014-02-25 10:26:57 AM  

Dog Welder: "They're focused on their own difficulties right now in getting through the month and making sure their job is there, and we want to

make sure they stay focused on those issues instead of on the crap job we've been doing addressing them."

And such a cracking good job they've done on the job front in the past 5 years, too.


FTFY and Weasel Boy
 
2014-02-25 10:27:06 AM  

bdub77: I mean they'd have to trump up some charges.


It's my understanding that the House can impeach for whatever reason they want, and if 218 of them agree, the president sits impeached and the Senate gets to hear Bob Barr drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...

// and on
 
2014-02-25 10:27:26 AM  

Dog Welder: Let's just say I don't agree with Cantor's assessment of the situation in the Senate. I'm pretty sure the GOP will hold the House, but I don't think that's a guarantee.


Keep holding on to that dream.  Dissatisfaction with Obama is widespread, much more than you'd like to see or are willing to admit (it's also pretty common after 6 years of the same president, no matter who).  The GOP will retain the House and will very likely add to its margin there.  In the Senate, the margin between the parties will narrow.   Can the GOP take over?  It's possible.  It's been a very rough year for Obama; the Dems had a chance when the GOP shut down the govt, but no one even remembers that in the wake of the Obamacare rollout debacle.  And Obamacare is the gift that keeps on giving to the GOP; every time the Administration delays another deadline more people get disgusted.  Obama looks weak internationally, and at home he's getting terrible press.  There will be no net Democratic gains nationally.  At the state level, that's a different story.  Obamacare will have an effect there, but it's not clear if that will affect the balance between parties.  For example, in Maryland, the disaster of the state exchange could knock the deputy governor out of the running, but it won't affect the Dem dominance in the statehouse.
 
2014-02-25 10:27:26 AM  

jntaylor63: The DCCC should know that their strategy is simple:  Keep reminding people who cause the government shutdown; the GOP.  A single message should pay in every area where a Democrat has a 40% chance or better of winning / keeping their elected position.  They should also target areas where government workers were put on PAYLESS leave.   The DCCC may not flip all the moderate Republicans voters to change their vote, but they may get enough of them to just sit out the 2014 election.  Like my parents, they held their nose to vote R in 2012; they cant bring themselves to do it again in 2014.

But alas, the DCCC wont.  Its not that Democrats need to grow a spine, they need to grow a set of teeth.


That puts a lot of misguided faith in the attention span of the American voter.
 
2014-02-25 10:29:33 AM  

Sammichless: The Republican Party has fractured pretty badly in the last year. I wonder how much this will affect them.

Not every Republican supports the Tea Party crazies anymore..... And not every Republican supports RINOs.

/I'm not sure this will help though, Dems suck at midterms and they aren't particularly riled up for anything right now. Our turnout will probably suck.


Actually, Obamacare and the IRS have solidified the GOP, and fractured the Dems.  The GOP has something to run against (besides each other) and the Dems have to choose whether to stay with or run away from Obamacare.  Expect good pickups by the GOP in both Houses.  I still think tipping the Senate to the GOP is a longshot, though.
 
2014-02-25 10:31:19 AM  

abb3w: Mjeck: To the Nate Silver mobile!

As of last July, he was calling Senate control a tossup. So far as I can see, not much has changed for the better for the GOP since then, suggesting that as usual for politicians, Cantor's bold proclamations are more posturing than substance.


Most newer predictions from others also have the Senate as a toss up or close to it.

For example:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/01/27/republ ic ans-have-a-44-chance-of-taking-the-senate-but-it-may-be-much-higher/
 
2014-02-25 10:31:42 AM  

Sammichless: Not every Republican supports the Tea Party crazies anymore..... And not every Republican supports RINOs.


there are no republicans anymore

only predators and prey
 
2014-02-25 10:31:55 AM  
I think as the GOP funders see an increasingly diminishing ROI, that's going to be the biggest blow to getting party members elected.  Whoever can paint their opponent in the most negative light the loudest is usually the winner.  It's interesting to watch from another country...  there seems to be such a disdain for government that the American people really vote for who they think is least bad.

The conservatives up here have been experimenting with US style campaigning, I think we're going to see a full blown shift to it now as Harper will be running against Trudeau's son who's pretty charismatic and a little prone to gaffes (he's no Biden though).   They're already running ads about Trudeau wanting to decriminalize marijuana (you guess it, he's trying to get your kids to smoke up) and they don't have to call an election until 2015.
 
2014-02-25 10:33:44 AM  

Galloping Galoshes: Dems have to choose whether to stay with or run away from Obamacare.


sadly democrats are such wimps,  passing legislation that gives millions access to healthcare is something they have to consider running away from.
 
2014-02-25 10:37:41 AM  
Never, EVER underestimate the derpitude of the American people.
 
2014-02-25 10:37:55 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Is it mathematically possible? Are there enough seats up for election to flip them?


Not just mathematically possible, but statistically probable; there are 7 Senate seats currently held up Democrats that are up for re-election in states that Mitt Romney won in 2012, and the GOP only needs 6 to take control of the chamber.
 
2014-02-25 10:43:41 AM  
Really? Is treating women like chattel, gay people as sub-humans, and heaping scorn on the poor and unemployed REALLY that appealing to the American people? Honestly, if the GOP gains more power after the craziness they've put on display over the past two years, then I officially give up on this country.


Voting straight Democrat this year, and in the foreseeable future out of simple fear of the alternative.
 
2014-02-25 10:43:50 AM  

Headso: Galloping Galoshes: Dems have to choose whether to stay with or run away from Obamacare.
sadly democrats are such wimps,  passing legislation that gives millions access to healthcare is something they have to consider running away from.


I don't see why this is an issue. Dems just need to stick with a message along the lines of "The Affordable Care Act was a wonderful first step to expanding healthcare coverage to the American people. Electing us will ensure we continue to expand its provisions to the rest of Americans through further development of exchanges and expansion of Medicare, and start to implement new cost-controlling measures to lower premiums."
 
2014-02-25 10:43:53 AM  
There's no sitting this one out, D's.  You can't just sit back and let them make asses of themselves this time.  You're going to have to go on the offensive.  Exploit every single solitary idiotic thing they say (It'll be a tall order just to catalog all of them, I know) But you're going to have to go on the offensive.  Take advantage of the GOP civil war.  Because if you give them an "enemy" to rally around, their little civil war will be over, and they'll hold their noses and vote for each other again.  You've got to get them angrier at each other than at you.
 
2014-02-25 10:44:41 AM  

Galloping Galoshes: Sammichless: The Republican Party has fractured pretty badly in the last year. I wonder how much this will affect them.

Not every Republican supports the Tea Party crazies anymore..... And not every Republican supports RINOs.

/I'm not sure this will help though, Dems suck at midterms and they aren't particularly riled up for anything right now. Our turnout will probably suck.

Actually, Obamacare and the IRS have solidified the GOP, and fractured the Dems.  The GOP has something to run against (besides each other) and the Dems have to choose whether to stay with or run away from Obamacare.  Expect good pickups by the GOP in both Houses.  I still think tipping the Senate to the GOP is a longshot, though.


I don't believe that Obamacare is going to be the issue that Republicans think that it will be. If elections were today, then it would be, but........ 11 months after it's implementation I think that people's distaste of it will die down (not saying it will be greeted as a liberator or anything). Your overall prediction is probably right though. I expect about the same.
 
2014-02-25 10:46:37 AM  

Sasquach: clambam: It's certainly a possibility. Even if they win it's likely they won't have a veto-proof majority, so the gridlock in the House will merely extend itself to the Senate. which already has its hands tied by the gridlock in the House. t's already the do-nothing-est Congress in history. This will just make it do-nothing-er.

A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.

No one is getting impeached and removed.

Every sitting president in recent memory has had the "if this and this, THEN x, y AND z will happen..."

Remember how sure some folks were that Bush was going to initiate martial and never leave office, ect.?

This is the same old nonsense. Public servents will waste the vast majority of their (our) time raising money to falsely accuse their opponent of eating babies and then carrying out the orders of the highest bidders.

/sorry, still new to this tab


Sorry but the Republicans talked a lot of smack about impeaching the last Democratic president... and then they impeached him. Now they're talking smack about impeaching this president. You might think that sane Republicans would be unwilling to repeat the mistakes of 1999, but it actually worked out quite well for them. They "won" the next two elections, remember?
 
2014-02-25 10:48:28 AM  

jntaylor63: Keep reminding people who cause the government shutdown; the GOP.


You mean the Obama shutdown? The Republicans pushed for the shutdown because government spending is out of control, but it's not their FAULT that Obama shut down the government. See, they just wanted to rein in spending, which they did by shutting down the government, but the bad stuff that came along with the shutdown was all Obama and the Democrats. We need to give these brave patriots credit for standing up to the Socialist in Chief and shutting down the government, but we need to put the blame for the shutdown squarely where it belongs - on Obama and the Democrats.
 
2014-02-25 10:51:28 AM  
Pretty sure most poll numbers are unskewed a certain way. Losing a couple seats is possible in the Senate, but control will not flip over. House will take a couple elections to get back to blue.
 
2014-02-25 10:52:17 AM  
FYI...here's a pretty good run down of the competitive races:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2014/Senate/Maps/Feb03.html#item-2
 
2014-02-25 10:52:36 AM  

mod3072: jntaylor63: Keep reminding people who cause the government shutdown; the GOP.

You mean the Obama shutdown? The Republicans pushed for the shutdown because government spending is out of control, but it's not their FAULT that Obama shut down the government. See, they just wanted to rein in spending, which they did by shutting down the government, but the bad stuff that came along with the shutdown was all Obama and the Democrats. We need to give these brave patriots credit for standing up to the Socialist in Chief and shutting down the government, but we need to put the blame for the shutdown squarely where it belongs - on Obama and the Democrats.


This is all wonderful, but the preferred term is "Slim Down."
 
2014-02-25 10:54:57 AM  

clambam: Sasquach: clambam: It's certainly a possibility. Even if they win it's likely they won't have a veto-proof majority, so the gridlock in the House will merely extend itself to the Senate. which already has its hands tied by the gridlock in the House. t's already the do-nothing-est Congress in history. This will just make it do-nothing-er.

A more interesting question is whether a majority in both houses will embolden the Teabaggers to impeach Obama. Certainly a possibility, but highly unlikely he'll be found guilty and removed--which will only result in President Biden (not necessarily a bad thing) and a legitimate argument that the Republicans are unwilling to accept a Democratic president under any circumstance and are attempting what essentially comes down to a political coup. I can't help but feel that being demonstrably tagged as totalitarian fascists will hurt the Republican brand in the long run.

No one is getting impeached and removed.

Every sitting president in recent memory has had the "if this and this, THEN x, y AND z will happen..."

Remember how sure some folks were that Bush was going to initiate martial and never leave office, ect.?

This is the same old nonsense. Public servents will waste the vast majority of their (our) time raising money to falsely accuse their opponent of eating babies and then carrying out the orders of the highest bidders.

/sorry, still new to this tab

Sorry but the Republicans talked a lot of smack about impeaching the last Democratic president... and then they impeached him. Now they're talking smack about impeaching this president. You might think that sane Republicans would be unwilling to repeat the mistakes of 1999, but it actually worked out quite well for them. They "won" the next two elections, remember?


Yes, that's definitely true. The GOP suffered zero electoral consequences in the two elections following impeachment, and by 2002 were in complete and total control of the entire government.

However, Clinton's mistake (testifying under oath) is unlikely to be repeated; no President for the foreseeable future will testify under oath in front of Congress under any circumstances. I'm not saying that will stop the GOP, but it would help the public opinion part of it.
 
2014-02-25 10:55:02 AM  

mod3072: jntaylor63: Keep reminding people who cause the government shutdown; the GOP.

You mean the Obama shutdown? The Republicans pushed for the shutdown because government spending is out of control, but it's not their FAULT that Obama shut down the government. See, they just wanted to rein in spending, which they did by shutting down the government, but the bad stuff that came along with the shutdown was all Obama and the Democrats. We need to give these brave patriots credit for standing up to the Socialist in Chief and shutting down the government, but we need to put the blame for the shutdown squarely where it belongs - on Obama and the Democrats.


denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2014-02-25 10:55:10 AM  
When the GOP comes out against the ACA, Dems need to rake them over the coals for trying to take away health insurance from 7m poor people, and take away health insurance from 4m more people who are already paying for it.  Frankly, the Dems just need to hit back... fortunately, I think they've learned that over the last few election cycles. Also, if Republicans want to talk about abortion or rape, by all means, let them keep on talking until they're done, don't interrupt, just let them make a commercial for you.
 
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