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(Reuters)   Italy's beautiful mountain villages facing extinction as people realize they are pretty to look at but pretty much suck if you need a job to afford living there   (uk.reuters.com) divider line 44
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2014-02-25 09:06:32 AM  
This is sad. There are some amazing old villages up in the mountains of Italy.
 
2014-02-25 09:53:16 AM  
It's the same with rural areas across the developed world, beautiful or otherwise.
 
2014-02-25 09:54:14 AM  
So, just like every rural shiathole everywhere, then? DRTFA
 
2014-02-25 09:55:46 AM  
Wonder if this applies to Spain as well.  Spent three years there, and went around a lot of the old mountain towns like Arcos, Vejer, Ronda...  It would be sad to see them dry up too.
 
2014-02-25 09:56:31 AM  
It's certainly true about Bend, OR...
 
2014-02-25 09:58:30 AM  
Didn't have this problem when Marlon Brando was in charge.
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/he drained the trains and made the swamps run on time, too
 
2014-02-25 10:06:55 AM  
It doesn't look like it was ever much of anything on Google maps and street view. Its better for people to live in cities environmentally anyhow.
 
2014-02-25 10:09:27 AM  

frozenhotchocolate: Its better for people to live in cities environmentally anyhow.


*raises hand*

Which cities?
 
2014-02-25 10:10:04 AM  
Those villages are great, if you're happy with scratching out an existence from subsistence farming and goat herding.

Srsly, this is happening all over the developed/developing world, even the US.  The rise of large scale agriculture, combined disappearance of old smokestack industries,  means that urban living is the future.
 
2014-02-25 10:11:30 AM  
So eating, praying, and loving doesn't keep the lights on?

/If you're doing the loving right it will.
 
2014-02-25 10:12:12 AM  

Fissile: Those villages are great, if you're happy with scratching out an existence from subsistence farming and goat herding.

Srsly, this is happening all over the developed/developing world, even the US.  The rise of large scale agriculture, combined disappearance of old smokestack industries,  means that urban living is the future.


Societies all go through periods of urbanization and deurbanization
 
2014-02-25 10:12:15 AM  

frozenhotchocolate: It doesn't look like it was ever much of anything on Google maps and street view. Its better for people to live in cities environmentally anyhow.


Isn't it better yet environmentally for all humans to die right now?
 
2014-02-25 10:13:53 AM  

Nadie_AZ: frozenhotchocolate: Its better for people to live in cities environmentally anyhow.

*raises hand*

Which cities?


Beijing for instance?
 
2014-02-25 10:13:59 AM  

Nadie_AZ: frozenhotchocolate: Its better for people to live in cities environmentally anyhow.

*raises hand*

Which cities?


West Coast, of course. Southern California or Northern Washington.
 
2014-02-25 10:13:59 AM  

proteus_b: Isn't it better yet environmentally for all humans to die right now?


Yes, but my giganto death cannon is still about 23 years off from completion.

/The start-up costs and R&D for these things is a nightmare.
 
2014-02-25 10:18:14 AM  
Wait until the hipsters move in.
 
2014-02-25 10:19:47 AM  
people leaving podunk towns in the middle of nowhere to find jobs. This is a repeat from every year since the dawn of civilization.
 
2014-02-25 10:24:29 AM  
I would think more people would be moving to those places now that the Internet allows so many people to work remotely.
 
2014-02-25 10:28:01 AM  
Yet, just like in the rest of Italy, every time you look another dagos by.
 
2014-02-25 10:34:04 AM  

studebaker hoch: I would think more people would be moving to those places now that the Internet allows so many people to work remotely.


You're assuming they have broadband internet access. Many of them don't.

Also, little villages are cute places to visit, but they have very little in the way of entertainment. Once you're done telling yourself how beautiful it is, and how fresh the air is, you realize you need to hop in your car and drive to a bigger city for almost everything.
 
2014-02-25 10:38:42 AM  

studebaker hoch: I would think more people would be moving to those places now that the Internet allows so many people to work remotely.


The internet gives people the ability to work remote. Bosses allow people to work remote.

/what good is being a manager if there's no one to manage?
 
2014-02-25 10:47:11 AM  

miscreant: You're assuming they have broadband internet access. Many of them don't.

Also, little villages are cute places to visit, but they have very little in the way of entertainment. Once you're done telling yourself how beautiful it is, and how fresh the air is, you realize you need to hop in your car and drive to a bigger city for almost everything.


Bullshiat. I've seen a lot of movies set in small villages throughout Europe and those roving Gypsies always put on AWESOME shows.
 
2014-02-25 10:52:16 AM  

andyofne: miscreant: You're assuming they have broadband internet access. Many of them don't.

Also, little villages are cute places to visit, but they have very little in the way of entertainment. Once you're done telling yourself how beautiful it is, and how fresh the air is, you realize you need to hop in your car and drive to a bigger city for almost everything.

Bullshiat. I've seen a lot of movies set in small villages throughout Europe and those roving Gypsies always put on AWESOME shows.


But then they steal all the children and aging-local-population problem worsens.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-25 10:55:50 AM  
There is a simple solution to this, and that's to make sure that there is good internet access.  People leaving towns like this doesn't mean people don't want to live there (as opposed to rural shiathouse Indiana were the people are assholes, the land is industrial wasteland, and there is nothing good about it at all).

It just appears leadership is bad everywhere.  Companies need good Internet access, and if you can make sure these areas have it they will get people coming back.  It just needs to be just a touch more modern.
 
2014-02-25 10:57:55 AM  

MBooda: Didn't have this problem when Marlon Brando was in charge.

/he drained the trains and made the swamps run on time, too


My ex used to drain trains
 
2014-02-25 10:59:44 AM  
Yeah as long as they can work from home over the internet, they can make a living by taking jobs formerly held by Americans.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-25 11:03:34 AM  

dascott: Yeah as long as they can work from home over the internet, they can make a living by taking jobs formerly held by Americans.


I know this is snark, but it doesn't matter what business you are talking about it needs good Internet access.

This is the same thing that is happening to our braindead U.S. leadership.  Internet access isn't a luxury for companies.  If you want to improve rural areas make sure that Comcrap can't stiff places out of Internet access and don't have laws that prevent the public promotion of fiber.
 
2014-02-25 11:10:04 AM  
I sure as hell wouldn't live anywhere without internet.  Such places are good for one thing - a weekend babymaking campaign.
 
2014-02-25 11:10:42 AM  
Ita'lys Colorado's beautiful mountain villages facing extinction as people realize they are pretty to look at but pretty much suck if you need a job to afford living there
 
2014-02-25 11:13:16 AM  
Did anyone mention internet access yet?

/ doesn't matter - if there aren't decent schools, families aren't going to move there even if the employers are fine with remote working.
 
2014-02-25 11:17:14 AM  
Yesterday's quaint remote village, today's bed and breakfast sex dens.
 
2014-02-25 11:22:18 AM  
As long as Italy's version of Comcast doesn't throttle Netflix, I would think it's heaven there.  They do have internet, right?
 
2014-02-25 11:38:32 AM  

dasc: As long as Italy's version of Comcast doesn't throttle Netflix, I would think it's heaven there.  They do have internet, right?


Two problems with that plan:

1. Most content providers license their content separately for each country, so even if you had Netflix in Italy, the catalog might be completely different form the catalog in the U.S.

2. Italy has such a byzantine and corrupt court system that you could be convicted of murder, even if the real murderer has confessed AND been linked to the crime by DNA evidence, simply because you're a foreigner.
 
2014-02-25 11:41:25 AM  

opiumpoopy: Did anyone mention internet access yet?

/ doesn't matter - if there aren't decent schools, families aren't going to move there even if the employers are fine with remote working.


Yes, but I will again. Why not?

I've vacationed in the lovely Val Gardena in northern Italy before, in the mountain village of Selva. The internet service was actually pretty good, IIRC.

In fairness, it is a fairly touristed area. But it is also a fairly prosperous area, so...there ya go.
 
2014-02-25 11:45:26 AM  
Perhaps rich big city tourists would pay to maintain quaint Potempkin villages sorta like Funny Farm?
 
2014-02-25 12:18:02 PM  

verbaltoxin: proteus_b: Isn't it better yet environmentally for all humans to die right now?

Yes, but my giganto death cannon is still about 23 years off from completion.

/The start-up costs and R&D for these things is a nightmare.


Did you use kickstarter?
 
2014-02-25 12:59:04 PM  
opiumpoopy

Did anyone mention internet access yet?

/ doesn't matter - if there aren't decent schools, families aren't going to move there even if the employers are fine with remote working.


You can get schooled on the Internet.  Happens to farkers all the time.
 
2014-02-25 01:32:14 PM  

d23: dascott: Yeah as long as they can work from home over the internet, they can make a living by taking jobs formerly held by Americans.

I know this is snark, but it doesn't matter what business you are talking about it needs good Internet access.

This is the same thing that is happening to our braindead U.S. leadership.  Internet access isn't a luxury for companies.  If you want to improve rural areas make sure that Comcrap can't stiff places out of Internet access and don't have laws that prevent the public promotion of fiber.


My bowels are perfectly fine thanks...
 
2014-02-25 02:35:07 PM  
My aunt lives in one of these villages in northern Italy.  Her and her husband run an inn on the side of a mountain.  It's quaint and a pain in the ass to get to.  You have to take a narrow winding road that scales the mountain miles up to get to them (no guard rails so it's pretty scary).  But they love it.  They forage and grow the food they can, and otherwise enjoy going into town to the market to get fresh food that they cook daily.  It's really hard work, but they find it rewarding.  There's something very romantic about the idea, but it's certainly not for me.
 
2014-02-25 02:44:45 PM  
CSB: My wife and I did a fairly quick tour of Italy last year... Positano is one of the most incredible towns I've ever been to. It's godawful expensive of course, because it's beautiful and everyone wants to be there, but it's amazing.
 
2014-02-25 06:43:55 PM  
My uncle built a vacation home in Ticino (the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland) some decades ago. There are all sorts of little villages like that scattered in the mountains above. Many of them were completely deserted, but over the last decade or so, a fair number have been bought up by Germans and German-speaking Swiss as summer getaway homes.

They can be pretty hard-core: Not accessible by car, a 1/2 mile walk with a 300 ft climb from the nearest road, so you have to schlep (or pay for someone to schlep) everything up. It's kind of funny to see a 200 year old, 500 sq ft peasant's cottage outfitted with high-end windows and doors, PV cells, and a satellite dish.

Then there's Ronco (no, I'm not making that up). it does have a road, but only for locals. However, it's easily accessible by a gondola, whose other end terminates at a train station. You get the whole bucolic life scene, but you can be in Locarno in about 1/2 hour. Prices for houses there start at eye-watering and go up.
 
2014-02-25 09:14:48 PM  

MemeSlave: Wait until the hipsters move in.


I think I just found the perfect spot to open my vegan gluten free dessert donut shop!
 
2014-02-25 09:21:20 PM  

verbaltoxin: /The start-up costs and R&D for these things is a nightmare.


You haven't kickstarted that sumbiatch yet? More like verbalslightlyunpleasantodor than verbaltoxin to me!
 
2014-02-25 09:23:16 PM  

d23: It just appears leadership is bad everywhere. Companies need good Internet access, and if you can make sure these areas have it they will get people coming back. It just needs to be just a touch more modern.


Ok, you're buying. Also, can I get some more aged single-malt while you're at it?

/I also love serene little villages
//and even crowded little villages
///but I'm not going to pay for them to keep existing; I've got my own bills to pay
 
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