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(TechEBlog)   First non-classified pics of USAF's secret flying saucer published, for all of you who want to believe   (techeblog.com) divider line 59
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2014-02-25 09:31:54 AM  
 
2014-02-25 09:38:01 AM  
North Korea makes better shops.
 
2014-02-25 09:38:16 AM  
First, old news is old. This is a rehash of a Wired story from 2012.

Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.

If they could build this then, imagine what they can fly today beside an F-22. 

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-25 09:42:16 AM  
Some of their other experimental designs.

img.alibaba.com
 
2014-02-25 09:42:48 AM  

DarkJohnson: Rully?
[www.laesieworks.com image 600x469]
[i.imgur.com image 450x653]


Lulz.

Well, so much for trolling...:p
 
2014-02-25 09:46:08 AM  

whistleridge: Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.


Brilliant deduction, Sir. Incidentally, what can you tell me about when this photo was taken?
i.telegraph.co.uk
Do you think that the fairies have gone into hiding since then, possibly upon the death of that one girl who could summon them?
 
2014-02-25 09:59:35 AM  
Is this that Avro thing again?

*clicks link*

Yep. Again. How many times are they going to de-classify this shiat anyway?
 
2014-02-25 10:07:33 AM  
itsafaaaaaake.jpg
 
2014-02-25 10:20:42 AM  
There were several flying discs built.  None of them did very well including the ones hung from high altitude balloons.  While philosophical engineers like the symmetry of a disc, it turns out the physics doesn't and physics always wins.
 
2014-02-25 10:23:37 AM  

Theaetetus: whistleridge: Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.

Brilliant deduction, Sir. Incidentally, what can you tell me about when this photo was taken?
[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]
Do you think that the fairies have gone into hiding since then, possibly upon the death of that one girl who could summon them?


See, the trick to a good troll is to mix few lies with much truth, so you  seem credible. If you can then toss in a dash of paranoia and a good picture on top, well...success is all but certain.

You know, like this 'article' is doing. I was just playing along.
 
2014-02-25 10:46:14 AM  

whistleridge: Theaetetus: whistleridge: Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.

Brilliant deduction, Sir. Incidentally, what can you tell me about when this photo was taken?
[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]
Do you think that the fairies have gone into hiding since then, possibly upon the death of that one girl who could summon them?

See, the trick to a good troll is to mix few lies with much truth, so you  seem credible. If you can then toss in a dash of paranoia and a good picture on top, well...success is all but certain.

You know, like this 'article' is doing. I was just playing along.


Sometimes, I think Websense has more sense than I do when it comes to clicking links.

/"Websense has blocked this request.  Reason:  Site is full of shiat."
 
2014-02-25 11:16:41 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: itsafaaaaaake.jpg


Well, they DID build the hover saucer, which was pictured below the 'shoop. That did actually get some trials, and pretty much got shelved, but they did actually build the f*cker. Of course, it's NOT the same vehicle as the upper shots, but then again, I'm a cranky bastiche with trust issues, which is what a lot of Gen-X turned out to be, so there's that.
 
2014-02-25 11:21:00 AM  
fake.
 
2014-02-25 11:25:07 AM  
Looks like subs and TechBlog got the trolololo!
 
2014-02-25 11:36:43 AM  
 
2014-02-25 11:36:55 AM  
Everything about this link is bad.. And you should all feel bad
 
2014-02-25 11:40:11 AM  
Where did the whole "flying saucers are aliens from another planet" come from? Did some farmers back then see an experimental saucer hover-craft buzzin' around, and it started from there?
 
2014-02-25 11:52:22 AM  

netgamer7k: Where did the whole "flying saucers are aliens from another planet" come from? Did some farmers back then see an experimental saucer hover-craft buzzin' around, and it started from there?


What I heard was that they saw the wreckage of a top-secret high-altitude pressure suit test, complete with a sand-filled dummy in a "space suit" with a face sketched on the canvas with a marker.  Since it was a classified test (didn't want anyone to know we were planning to fly so high as to need space suits), the Air Force (Air Corps at the time maybe??) came and got the wreckage pretty quick.

And in that era, a big flying disc could not possibly fly, especially not supersonic.  There's no vents for the jets and it'd be impossible to control without fly-by-wire computer control.  What we ended up with was a B2 bomber, closest thing to that shape that can actually be controlled, and it's subsonic.
 
2014-02-25 12:03:26 PM  

hubiestubert: Tr0mBoNe: itsafaaaaaake.jpg

Well, they DID build the hover saucer, which was pictured below the 'shoop. That did actually get some trials, and pretty much got shelved, but they did actually build the f*cker. Of course, it's NOT the same vehicle as the upper shots, but then again, I'm a cranky bastiche with trust issues, which is what a lot of Gen-X turned out to be, so there's that.


What I'm holding out for is my personal 'saucer'...like this one from Miller.

a.espncdn.com
 
2014-02-25 12:03:31 PM  

whistleridge: You know, like this 'article' is doing. I was just playing along.


It was very well done as well.  Had me laughing.
 
2014-02-25 12:03:37 PM  
static2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-25 12:10:05 PM  

whistleridge: First, old news is old. This is a rehash of a Wired story from 2012.

Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.

If they could build this then, imagine what they can fly today beside an F-22. 

[i.imgur.com image 450x653]


And that's not the 'flying disk' from the video, either.
 
2014-02-25 12:17:25 PM  
You know who else had a secret flying saucer?

www.burlingtonnews.net
 
2014-02-25 12:27:27 PM  

DarkJohnson: Rully?
[www.laesieworks.com image 600x469]
[i.imgur.com image 450x653]


Why did someone take the time to shop out the saucers and place in the X1 and its dropship?
 
2014-02-25 12:33:22 PM  

xanadian: whistleridge: Theaetetus: whistleridge: Second, if they're flying this with an F-86 as a chase jet, that means this picture was taken sometime between 1949 and 1960, because that jet was phased out for everyone except the Air National Guard by then, and I'm doubting they let ANG fly chase on something this classified. 1954-55 is a solid guess for when this was taken.

Brilliant deduction, Sir. Incidentally, what can you tell me about when this photo was taken?
[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]
Do you think that the fairies have gone into hiding since then, possibly upon the death of that one girl who could summon them?

See, the trick to a good troll is to mix few lies with much truth, so you  seem credible. If you can then toss in a dash of paranoia and a good picture on top, well...success is all but certain.

You know, like this 'article' is doing. I was just playing along.

Sometimes, I think Websense has more sense than I do when it comes to clicking links.

/"Websense has blocked this request.  Reason:  Site is full of shiat."


When I get back to the office I'm changing the block text of our web proxy to "site is full of shiat".

/I'm sure the execs will love it
 
2014-02-25 12:39:30 PM  
They still haven't declassified which idiot thought that thing was a good idea.
If you start out making a Mach 4 plane but never get above the tree tops, someone's properly screwed up the math.
 
2014-02-25 12:44:01 PM  
Strange Cosmos previously revealed the Navy's "flying saucer":

xenohistorian.faithweb.com
 
2014-02-25 12:47:53 PM  

whistleridge: First, old news is old. This is a rehash of a Wired story from 2012.


The pic is far older than that, closer to 2004.

It's not even a particularly good 'shoop

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-25 12:57:03 PM  

netgamer7k: Where did the whole "flying saucers are aliens from another planet" come from? Did some farmers back then see an experimental saucer hover-craft buzzin' around, and it started from there?


It started about 3000 years ago, long before anybody had ever had the idea of an experimental hover craft or that humans could even fly.
 
2014-02-25 01:05:23 PM  
I am starting to get f-ing tired of all the f-ing internet truthiness. TechBlog ...wtf?

Are you trolling or just really really stupid?
 
2014-02-25 01:13:19 PM  

cretinbob: whistleridge: First, old news is old. This is a rehash of a Wired story from 2012.

The pic is far older than that, closer to 2004.

It's not even a particularly good 'shoop

[24.media.tumblr.com image 300x188]


Yep...in fact, I think this entire 'article' was lifted in its entirety from whatever the 2004-ish source was.
 
2014-02-25 01:16:18 PM  
Vought VF-173:

upload.wikimedia.org


Yep, it flew. Just not that well.
 
2014-02-25 01:28:19 PM  

washington-babylon: Vought VF-173:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x463]

Yep, it flew. Just not that well.


Thank you for that...the Vought is the real-life one I was trying to recall.
 
2014-02-25 01:31:48 PM  

DarkJohnson: Rully?
[www.laesieworks.com image 600x469]
[i.imgur.com image 450x653]


LOL
so you are saying that this is a photoshop ???
DOH
 
2014-02-25 01:37:41 PM  
Meanwhile, at Strange Cosmos, some jackass with photoshop is cackling maniacally as he reviews the hit counter...
 
2014-02-25 01:40:58 PM  
Photoshop aside, I like the pilots wearing oxygen masks.

Can you imagine how thin the atmosphere is at an altitude of about eight feet?
 
2014-02-25 01:45:27 PM  

netgamer7k: Where did the whole "flying saucers are aliens from another planet" come from? Did some farmers back then see an experimental saucer hover-craft buzzin' around, and it started from there?


I'm pretty sure the shape came from people seeing lenticular clouds and their imaginations filling in details. The whole flying saucers/aliens/abductions thing mostly came together in the 30s and 40s when pulp magazines were publishing a mix of inventive storytelling combined with the ramblings of paranoid schizophrenics to sell magazines. By the time the UFO (popular not literal use) phenomenon really took off in 1947, the basics of the mythology were firmly established.
 
2014-02-25 01:54:24 PM  
i239.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-25 01:58:04 PM  

Foundling: Photoshop aside, I like the pilots wearing oxygen masks.

Can you imagine how thin the atmosphere is at an altitude of about eight feet?


Would you want to breath jet fumes and tornado dust from the downwash? You'd demand at least a filter.
 
2014-02-25 02:17:46 PM  

washington-babylon: Vought VF-173:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x463]


Yep, it flew. Just not that well.


Actually the Vought VF-173 flew quite well. They even developed it further into the XF5U. But the XF5U was ordered to be scrapped before it had a chance to start fight trials.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U
 
2014-02-25 02:21:05 PM  

Foundling: Photoshop aside, I like the pilots wearing oxygen masks.

Can you imagine how thin the atmosphere is at an altitude of about eight feet?


Walk up a flight of stairs. When you get to the next landing that should tell you.
 
2014-02-25 02:45:00 PM  

Sybarite: netgamer7k: Where did the whole "flying saucers are aliens from another planet" come from? Did some farmers back then see an experimental saucer hover-craft buzzin' around, and it started from there?

I'm pretty sure the shape came from people seeing lenticular clouds and their imaginations filling in details. The whole flying saucers/aliens/abductions thing mostly came together in the 30s and 40s when pulp magazines were publishing a mix of inventive storytelling combined with the ramblings of paranoid schizophrenics to sell magazines. By the time the UFO (popular not literal use) phenomenon really took off in 1947, the basics of the mythology were firmly established.


Do you guys really think this is a 20th century concept?
 
2014-02-25 03:25:53 PM  
Yep, the 'AVROCar' again.  Again.

It's really getting tiresome.  This story has been retreaded so often, there's no 'tire' left - just the patches.

Synopsis for anyone who didn't catch this thing *any* of the previous five million times it was trotted out:

Back in the - '50s?  Not gonna bother to look it up now - The USAF worked with a Canadian outfit, AVRO, on the flying disk concept.  The pre-announced design specs were lofty, grandiose, and completely unconnected to reality.  Everyone who keeps trying to make this story happen insist on quoting only the design goals, and they completely ignore the reality, which was nothing short of laughable.

Essentially, the thing worked basically like a hovercraft - a big ol' fan blowing air out the bottom to raise it, and perimeter ducts that could be opened and closed to provide exhaust air for steering.

Unlike a properly designed hovercraft, it had so skirt around the lower edge to hold in the air cushion. Therefore, the thing was inefficient as hell.  It *could* get off the ground - barely.  It was, in practice, kinda like an air hockey puck that mounted its own compressor, with about the same operating ceiling.  And it was every bit as practical and militarily useful as an air hockey puck.

But keep trotting out those artist's conceptions that show it soaring through the stratosphere, pulling away from a jet fighter!  Someday, someone will bite!
 
2014-02-25 03:32:14 PM  

Obscene_CNN: washington-babylon: Vought VF-173:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x463]


Yep, it flew. Just not that well.

Actually the Vought VF-173 flew quite well. They even developed it further into the XF5U. But the XF5U was ordered to be scrapped before it had a chance to start fight trials.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U


Actually, the VF-173 had vibration and SERIOUS rudder balance issues (the rudder issue caused the rudder to be very difficult to move). Later renditions worked most of the bugs out, and it is a pity that further research was not done on this. Unfortunately, the demand for propeller driven craft had reached its end, as both the Navy and Air Force wanted Jets. It would have been interesting to see what the craft could have done with jet engines (if that would even work).
 
2014-02-25 03:51:26 PM  
Have to say - area 51's recent declassification is far more interesting.

//granted, google earth has gone straight to it when you type in "Area 51" for the majority of a decade...Probably one of our country's worst kept secrets
 
2014-02-25 03:58:45 PM  

Obscene_CNN: washington-babylon: Vought VF-173:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x463]


Yep, it flew. Just not that well.

Actually the Vought VF-173 flew quite well. They even developed it further into the XF5U. But the XF5U was ordered to be scrapped before it had a chance to start fight trials.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U


As a side note to my previous post, the XF5U was so structurally strong that when they scrapped it, it had to be destroyed by a wrecking ball. And the original I posted survived flipping over onto its back (with almost no damage) during a nasty beach landing where the pilot had to lock the brakes to avoid a couple who were in the way. Basically, this craft was like a flying tank.
 
2014-02-25 04:22:41 PM  

Somaticasual: Have to say - area 51's recent declassification is far more interesting.

//granted, google earth has gone straight to it when you type in "Area 51" for the majority of a decade...Probably one of our country's worst kept secrets


The existence of the groom lake base was never really classified.

What goes on there, IS, though.
 
2014-02-25 04:31:00 PM  
Were the aircraft piloted by Boilerplate the Robot?

www.wired.com
 
2014-02-25 05:05:21 PM  

washington-babylon: It would have been interesting to see what the craft could have done with jet engines (if that would even work).


The idea behind this abortion was to use the wash of the propeller to counter the negative side of low aspect-ratio wings, that is the enormous flow of air from the high-pressure underside of the wing to the low-pressure top over the wing-tip, witch waste lift and induce drag.
So jet engines would make the concept moot.
It's one of thoose many "good ideas" that only look at one design issue, forgetting about all the rest.
It was predictable that it would have poor performance.
Yes, it is said to have a short take off, but nothing impressive compared with soundly designed conventional aircraft.
 
2014-02-25 05:09:10 PM  

DarkJohnson: Rully?
[www.laesieworks.com image 600x469]
[i.imgur.com image 450x653]


Shadows can tell you almost everything about the authenticity of a picture.
 
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