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(Daily Mail)   Looks like the Italians have the best army rations to give to their troops, the French have the snootiest and the British like it hot: What army ration packs say about a nation and their attitude towards keeping their troops on their feet   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 121
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2014-02-25 07:54:33 AM
When did they stop putting Tabasco in the American ones?  It used to come with Tabasco.

The Australian one was the worst of the bunch, with the MRE being a close second.

Everybody else but Australia gets better food than Americans.  WTF is wrong with us?
 
2014-02-25 07:59:02 AM

robohobo: I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.


Yes it is.  It's not really hot, but it's a good flavor.  I have no idea where you get "metallic" from Tabasco.  Maybe you got a bad batch, perhaps it had been tampered with?  It does react with some metals, possibly you contaminated it.
 
2014-02-25 07:59:26 AM

Satanus Maximus: Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.


Too tight? Eat the peanut butter. Too loose? Eat the cheese.

They are all food substitute. Designed to keep you alive, until you could have real food. Don't bother heating them, or spicing them, just swallow them and enjoy the full feeling in your tummy. If you're eating field rations, you're too busy to be thinking about flavor.
 
2014-02-25 08:00:30 AM

DarkVader: Everybody else but Australia gets better food than Americans. WTF is wrong with us?


It's not obvious?  Since when the fark did Americans give a shiat about what they were eating?  Do you have any idea how many derogatory names American culture has for people who enjoy flavor that isn't cheap beef?
 
2014-02-25 08:02:57 AM

Harry Freakstorm: You always loaned your P-38 and never got it back.


I never loan my fighters.
 
2014-02-25 08:03:24 AM
Umm... Aren't these supposed to be for emergencies? Why bother making them taste good?

Make a paste that is revolting and keep you not dead.

That way no one plows through their rations irrationally.

/Where are those crickets?
 
2014-02-25 08:09:54 AM

Onkel Buck: Does the heater say "Rock or something" on it?


Yarp. Sadly other people don't qualify as "or something".
 
2014-02-25 08:16:03 AM

mamoru: From TFA: There are plenty of snacks packed into the Australian ration including a steak bar, processed cheese and a military-issue packet of Vegemite, as well as a spoon which doubles as a can opener.

So, Australia apparently includes chemical weapons in their MREs. Nice. ;)

/the spoon/can-opener is nifty; not something at all new, I'm sure, but I've not seen one before


Well  how else are the Aussies supposed to play Knifey-Spoony?
 
2014-02-25 08:21:26 AM

FloridaFarkTag: Satanus Maximus: Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.

Sounds more like MREs were Liquid Plumbr to you


That's why they stand for Meals Resisting Exit
 
2014-02-25 08:23:45 AM

DarkVader: When did they stop putting Tabasco in the American ones?  It used to come with Tabasco.


They didn't. It comes in a plastic sleeve, but it's not in every MRE.
 
2014-02-25 08:29:39 AM

Eps05: Lots of deserts in those rations.

/article is terribly written, as usual.


Yes, the writing is ghastly, but this article is an example of the sort of thing that the DM excels at, which is photographic essays.  Loved the pictures, it just wouldn't have had the same impact with the same text and less photos.
 
2014-02-25 08:35:48 AM

MythDragon: FloridaFarkTag: Satanus Maximus: Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.

Sounds more like MREs were Liquid Plumbr to you

That's why they stand for Meals Resisting Exit


I drove all the way to the pool but the kids won't get out of the car.
 
2014-02-25 08:42:32 AM

dragonchild: DarkVader: Everybody else but Australia gets better food than Americans. WTF is wrong with us?

It's not obvious?  Since when the fark did Americans give a shiat about what they were eating?  Do you have any idea how many derogatory names American culture has for people who enjoy flavor that isn't cheap beef?


You haven't traveled much, have you?

jafiwam: Satanic_Hamster: Curious to what the Russians are feeding their troops.

Chechens mostly until recently then a Ukrainian or two.


I like some Georgian sauce on my rations.
 
2014-02-25 08:46:33 AM
In the 1980's MRE's were shiat. I used to carry Uncle Ben's rice in a ziploc bag. Just add rice and water and place it in your BDU top right above your lower back (the LBE would hold it in place) and by afternoon you would have nice warm rice. Add ketchup and Trappy's Bull Sauce and you had a meal fit for a king.
 
2014-02-25 08:48:27 AM

mike_d85: Umm... Aren't these supposed to be for emergencies? Why bother making them taste good?

Make a paste that is revolting and keep you not dead.

That way no one plows through their rations irrationally.

/Where are those crickets?


They're meant for guys in the field that do not have access to an actual canteen/chowline/cafeteria/mess/etc.  IIRC, US military actually has a goal/target level for the number of meals a soldier eats per week that are prepared in a kitchen/by a cook.

(and yes, I know you're joking)
 
2014-02-25 08:50:11 AM
Once we stole some food during training and I got a #10 can of chocolate pudding. I was king for a day.
 
2014-02-25 08:56:04 AM

Satanic_Hamster: mike_d85: Umm... Aren't these supposed to be for emergencies? Why bother making them taste good?

Make a paste that is revolting and keep you not dead.

That way no one plows through their rations irrationally.

/Where are those crickets?

They're meant for guys in the field that do not have access to an actual canteen/chowline/cafeteria/mess/etc.  IIRC, US military actually has a goal/target level for the number of meals a soldier eats per week that are prepared in a kitchen/by a cook.

(and yes, I know you're joking)


I lived on MREs for several months in the beginning of the Gulf War These were supplemented only occasionally by T-rations which came in aluminum cans that you had to heat in boiling water. They sucked so bad that people would eat Ham Loaf MREs instead.

/two packs of coffee one pack of coco and a pack of creamer mixed with about 3os of water is a good laxative.
 
2014-02-25 08:57:24 AM

CRtwenty: OhioUGrad: The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.

Most MREs are inedible without it I've found


The only MRE meal I remember being completely gross was the pork patty, which was pretty much a
bacon flavoured Brillo pad.

But what about the pack of cigs Uncle Sugar gave our boys in their C rations? I heard that someone once
correlated the popularity of various bootleg US cigarette brands with US operations in the various wars
(Camels & Luckies were popular in Europe, while Marlboro was popular in SE Asia).
Luckys were popular
 
2014-02-25 08:58:57 AM

Tannhauser: The French have to design their rations to be eaten on the run.


"Meals-Ready-To-Surrender"?
 
2014-02-25 09:04:31 AM

DjangoStonereaver: CRtwenty: OhioUGrad: The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.

Most MREs are inedible without it I've found

The only MRE meal I remember being completely gross was the pork patty, which was pretty much a
bacon flavoured Brillo pad.

But what about the pack of cigs Uncle Sugar gave our boys in their C rations? I heard that someone once
correlated the popularity of various bootleg US cigarette brands with US operations in the various wars
(Camels & Luckies were popular in Europe, while Marlboro was popular in SE Asia).
Luckys were popular


I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.
 
2014-02-25 09:09:04 AM

ciderczar: DarkVader: When did they stop putting Tabasco in the American ones?  It used to come with Tabasco.

They didn't. It comes in a plastic sleeve, but it's not in every MRE.


I don't get why they don't put them in every packet. Some of the ones that they go really good with, such as beef stew, don't have any tabasco.
And what the fark good do those gypsum board crackers do me, if I don't have jalapeno cheese spread to put on them??

I truely miss the little glass tabasco bottles. They made awesome little bombs. 1/8 full of heater powder, add 1/3 full of water, close tightly and somewhere between 30-70 seconds you got a nice bang with glass shrapnel. If you use tabasco instead of water, it makes it like a tiny CS grenade. I slipped on under the commander's tent on night on a field ex. He was only *mildly* amused. Not very happy, but decided it wasn't worth the effort to pursue when no one came forward to admit they did it.
 
2014-02-25 09:11:53 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: dittybopper: Buncha pussies.

When I was a kid, my cousin used to bring back C-rations for us.  And yes, I *LIKED* ham and motherfarkers.

But having said that, MREs were better than the C-rats, as I found out when I joined the Army a few years after.

C rations? you lucky bastard... we had Logan bars and loved em.


Pfft.  When I was really, really young:

img.fark.net

All we got was salt pork and hardtack.  When it was like Christmas, they'd give us half a gill of vinegar and some dried peas in addition to the salt pork and hardtack.
 
2014-02-25 09:14:26 AM

No Such Agency: p4p3rm4t3:
In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.

Rhino_man:
When I was in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, there was a Canadian camp a few miles from ours. The comm chief found tons of excuses to "cross train" with the Canadians, and he'd always trade about 8 cases of our MREs for theirs, 1:1.

Your boys had real bread. We had good cheese spread. Both sides were excited about those trading runs.

Calling petit pain "real bread" is perhaps generous, but it is pretty good with peanut butter or stew.  I had IMP's about 15 years ago in the Reserves and honestly I thought they were excellent for what they were.  I hoarded some of the toothpaste-tubes of honey and peanut butter for years after I quit.

I hear the Americans have developed pizza for MRE's, which sounds like a challenge.


Petit pain is far closer to real bread than what we have... which has approximately the same density as neutron star matter, and none of the flavor.
i4.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-25 09:15:19 AM

obamadidcoke: I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.


I didn't mind it *IF* it was still dried.  Then it was like a sausage-flavored rice cake:  Not the best in the world, but tolerable.

When reconstituted, though, they did suck.  So I always ate them dry.
 
2014-02-25 09:16:48 AM

obamadidcoke: Once we stole some food during training and I got a #10 can of chocolate pudding. I was king for a day.


I know how you felt. When I was at Basic Training at Fort Dix New Jersey, I used to volunteer for mess hall guard duty, because they'd let us eat whatever we wanted, as long as we cleaned up our messes. One night, I ate an entire box of single-serve orange sherbet that I had an unnatural craving for. I took a gallon jar of maraschino cherries back to the barracks, for those poor sweets-starved recruits, and achieved hero status.
 
2014-02-25 09:28:11 AM

MythDragon: ciderczar: DarkVader: When did they stop putting Tabasco in the American ones?  It used to come with Tabasco.

They didn't. It comes in a plastic sleeve, but it's not in every MRE.

I don't get why they don't put them in every packet. Some of the ones that they go really good with, such as beef stew, don't have any tabasco.
And what the fark good do those gypsum board crackers do me, if I don't have jalapeno cheese spread to put on them??

I truely miss the little glass tabasco bottles. They made awesome little bombs. 1/8 full of heater powder, add 1/3 full of water, close tightly and somewhere between 30-70 seconds you got a nice bang with glass shrapnel. If you use tabasco instead of water, it makes it like a tiny CS grenade. I slipped on under the commander's tent on night on a field ex. He was only *mildly* amused. Not very happy, but decided it wasn't worth the effort to pursue when no one came forward to admit they did it.


Heh.

My room-mate and I were in the habit of booby-trapping each other's stuff with those little "pull" firecrackers.  You pull the two strings, and they go *BANG*.

One day, before a scheduled barracks inspection during our working hours (ie., we wouldn't be there during the inspection), he and I booby-trapped our room.

I even warned Top by writing "осторожно, старшина!" on the mirror in our room with grease pencil.

We got a nice informal counseling statement saying "Don't do that again", in more colorful language.


/Passed inspection, though
 
2014-02-25 09:36:59 AM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: obamadidcoke: Once we stole some food during training and I got a #10 can of chocolate pudding. I was king for a day.

I know how you felt. When I was at Basic Training at Fort Dix New Jersey, I used to volunteer for mess hall guard duty, because they'd let us eat whatever we wanted, as long as we cleaned up our messes. One night, I ate an entire box of single-serve orange sherbet that I had an unnatural craving for. I took a gallon jar of maraschino cherries back to the barracks, for those poor sweets-starved recruits, and achieved hero status.


Oh, BCT stories...

So, no shiat, there I was going through BCT at Fort Jackson in 2005.  We're out on the Victory Forge exercise, and it's time to break for food.  Our squad gets a box of MREs brought to us, we crack open the tape...and it's cheese omelettes.  The ENTIRE CASE is nothing but cheese omelette MREs.

We naturally recoiled in horror, and starting cursing the drill sergeants (they had clearly re-packed the box because they hated us, right?), right up until one of them asked us why nobody was eating.  She comes over and looks in the box, exclaims something to the effect of "what that fark is this shiat?  How can this happen?!"  That did a pretty good job of convincing us that they hadn't planned this culinary abortion of an MRE case.  Drills talked for a few minutes, and came back over and told us that BCT is about making you miserable and so forth, but nobody deserves an entire case of nothing but cheese omelettes.  One of them headed back to the DFAC and brought us food...not great food, but anything was better in comparison.

/fark cheese omelettes
// Charlie Co, 2/485th
 
2014-02-25 09:38:32 AM

obamadidcoke: I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.


I was in the Army in the '80s. We were still getting some C-rations on training exercises*.
I vastly preferred them to the first-gen MREs we also got. I remember that prok patty. It looked like an over-used kitched sponge, and smelled kinda like one, too.
I tried giving one to me dog, and she wouldn't eat it.


*Still have a small scar on my chest from getting stabbed by the P-38 I had on my dogtags.
 
2014-02-25 09:41:31 AM

FightDirector: We naturally recoiled in horror, and starting cursing the drill sergeants (they had clearly re-packed the box because they hated us, right?), right up until one of them asked us why nobody was eating. She comes over and looks in the box, exclaims something to the effect of "what that fark is this shiat? How can this happen?!" That did a pretty good job of convincing us that they hadn't planned this culinary abortion of an MRE case. Drills talked for a few minutes, and came back over and told us that BCT is about making you miserable and so forth, but nobody deserves an entire case of nothing but cheese omelettes. One of them headed back to the DFAC and brought us food...not great food, but anything was better in comparison.


Eh.  Maybe if they included a few bottles of Huy Fong sriracha or Frank's Red Hot...
 
2014-02-25 09:42:27 AM

FightDirector: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: obamadidcoke: Once we stole some food during training and I got a #10 can of chocolate pudding. I was king for a day.

I know how you felt. When I was at Basic Training at Fort Dix New Jersey, I used to volunteer for mess hall guard duty, because they'd let us eat whatever we wanted, as long as we cleaned up our messes. One night, I ate an entire box of single-serve orange sherbet that I had an unnatural craving for. I took a gallon jar of maraschino cherries back to the barracks, for those poor sweets-starved recruits, and achieved hero status.

Oh, BCT stories...

So, no shiat, there I was going through BCT at Fort Jackson in 2005.  We're out on the Victory Forge exercise, and it's time to break for food.  Our squad gets a box of MREs brought to us, we crack open the tape...and it's cheese omelettes.  The ENTIRE CASE is nothing but cheese omelette MREs.

We naturally recoiled in horror, and starting cursing the drill sergeants (they had clearly re-packed the box because they hated us, right?), right up until one of them asked us why nobody was eating.  She comes over and looks in the box, exclaims something to the effect of "what that fark is this shiat?  How can this happen?!"  That did a pretty good job of convincing us that they hadn't planned this culinary abortion of an MRE case.  Drills talked for a few minutes, and came back over and told us that BCT is about making you miserable and so forth, but nobody deserves an entire case of nothing but cheese omelettes.  One of them headed back to the DFAC and brought us food...not great food, but anything was better in comparison.

/fark cheese omelettes
// Charlie Co, 2/485th


media.giphy.com
 
2014-02-25 09:43:25 AM

dittybopper: obamadidcoke: I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.

I didn't mind it *IF* it was still dried.  Then it was like a sausage-flavored rice cake:  Not the best in the world, but tolerable.

When reconstituted, though, they did suck.  So I always ate them dry.


So, you never had to shiat?
 
2014-02-25 09:48:45 AM
1. Tape a packet of barbecue beef to a grenade simulator.
2. wire it to the commander's hatch of and M1 tank
3. Hide and watch.

Best use of an MRE
 
2014-02-25 09:49:30 AM
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/Damnit
 
2014-02-25 09:51:12 AM

dragonchild: DarkVader: Everybody else but Australia gets better food than Americans. WTF is wrong with us?

It's not obvious?  Since when the fark did Americans give a shiat about what they were eating?  Do you have any idea how many derogatory names American culture has for people who enjoy flavor that isn't cheap beef?


No. How many?
 
2014-02-25 09:51:26 AM
Meals
Refused by
Ethiopians

/Flies in Somalia wouldn't even land on the omelette with ham
 
2014-02-25 09:52:27 AM

p4p3rm4t3: In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.


www.aceshowbiz.com
media1.gameinformer.com
 
2014-02-25 10:12:31 AM
...keeping their troops on their feet

What kind of queer phrase is this?  Does someone need a spa day just to cope?
 
2014-02-25 10:13:22 AM
Argentinian MREs were the best! BEEEEF!
 
2014-02-25 10:15:29 AM

obamadidcoke: dittybopper: obamadidcoke: I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.

I didn't mind it *IF* it was still dried.  Then it was like a sausage-flavored rice cake:  Not the best in the world, but tolerable.

When reconstituted, though, they did suck.  So I always ate them dry.

So, you never had to shiat?


Not like I had them every farkin' day.  Or even that much, really.  Had them a few times in Basic, then after that because I wasn't training all the time but doing the same farkin' job I would in time of war, I didn't have MRE's all that often.

/Strategic asset, not tactical.
 
2014-02-25 10:16:45 AM

This text is now purple: dragonchild: DarkVader: Everybody else but Australia gets better food than Americans. WTF is wrong with us?

It's not obvious?  Since when the fark did Americans give a shiat about what they were eating?  Do you have any idea how many derogatory names American culture has for people who enjoy flavor that isn't cheap beef?

No. How many?


A *LOT*.
 
2014-02-25 10:21:51 AM

obamadidcoke: DjangoStonereaver: CRtwenty: OhioUGrad: The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.

Most MREs are inedible without it I've found

The only MRE meal I remember being completely gross was the pork patty, which was pretty much a
bacon flavoured Brillo pad.

But what about the pack of cigs Uncle Sugar gave our boys in their C rations? I heard that someone once
correlated the popularity of various bootleg US cigarette brands with US operations in the various wars
(Camels & Luckies were popular in Europe, while Marlboro was popular in SE Asia).
Luckys were popular

I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.


Yeah.  When heated, it tasted like a bacon flavoured brillo pad mixed with oatmeal.
 
2014-02-25 10:23:28 AM

FightDirector: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: obamadidcoke: Once we stole some food during training and I got a #10 can of chocolate pudding. I was king for a day.

I know how you felt. When I was at Basic Training at Fort Dix New Jersey, I used to volunteer for mess hall guard duty, because they'd let us eat whatever we wanted, as long as we cleaned up our messes. One night, I ate an entire box of single-serve orange sherbet that I had an unnatural craving for. I took a gallon jar of maraschino cherries back to the barracks, for those poor sweets-starved recruits, and achieved hero status.

Oh, BCT stories...

So, no shiat, there I was going through BCT at Fort Jackson in 2005.  We're out on the Victory Forge exercise, and it's time to break for food.  Our squad gets a box of MREs brought to us, we crack open the tape...and it's cheese omelettes.  The ENTIRE CASE is nothing but cheese omelette MREs.

We naturally recoiled in horror, and starting cursing the drill sergeants (they had clearly re-packed the box because they hated us, right?), right up until one of them asked us why nobody was eating.  She comes over and looks in the box, exclaims something to the effect of "what that fark is this shiat?  How can this happen?!"  That did a pretty good job of convincing us that they hadn't planned this culinary abortion of an MRE case.  Drills talked for a few minutes, and came back over and told us that BCT is about making you miserable and so forth, but nobody deserves an entire case of nothing but cheese omelettes.  One of them headed back to the DFAC and brought us food...not great food, but anything was better in comparison.

/fark cheese omelettes
// Charlie Co, 2/485th


I went to Jackson in 94. My first three MREs were all old dark brown #4 Omelett with ham. Those were farking horrible. Worst MRE ever. Tasted like cat vomit that a dog shiat out after eating. Now in comparison, the pork chow mein with tabasco and dried noodles was farking awesome!


Omelette with ham:
livedoor.blogimg.jp
 
2014-02-25 10:28:28 AM

Tannhauser: The French have to design their rations to be eaten on the run.


Why don't you fark off with your imbecilic Fox News bullshiat that wasn't funny the first time anyone said it.  You're a typical American wiseguy who knows nothing about history, especially American history.

First off, the American Revolution was a side show in a greater global conflict that was taking place between the French and British empires.  Had the Crown been able to bring the full weight of the British military to bear against the American revolutionaries,  the capitol of the UK would be located in Washington today, except it would be called New London.

The French provided money, training, uniforms, weapons supplies, and most importantly, naval power.  Ever hear of the Battle of the Chesapeake?   You know, that little skirmish where the French Navy biatch slapped the British Navy?   No, I didn't think so.

Have you fathered any children yet?  If not, I'll gladly pay for your vasectomy.
 
2014-02-25 10:40:03 AM

give me doughnuts: obamadidcoke: I forgot all about pork patty.

Dehydrated pork bits, of course it had to be rehydrated with tepid canteen water. Truly awful.

I was in the Army in the '80s. We were still getting some C-rations on training exercises*.
I vastly preferred them to the first-gen MREs we also got. I remember that prok patty. It looked like an over-used kitched sponge, and smelled kinda like one, too.
I tried giving one to me dog, and she wouldn't eat it.


*Still have a small scar on my chest from getting stabbed by the P-38 I had on my dogtags.


A high school friend joined the Marines after graduation back in the early 80s, just as the military was transitioning from C-rats to MREs, he would bring home lots of this stuff when he was on leave, and I got to taste both.  You are correct, the early MREs were awful compared to the C-rats.  My ex-Marine buddy also gave me a box full of P-38s, one of the world's greatest inventions.  I guard those P-38's like gold.
 
2014-02-25 10:40:32 AM
My favorite MRE was always the 4 fingers of death. You could make a pretty decent chili with it.

/When I say decent, I mean decent for an MRE.
//Didn't poop once the first 6 days eating MRE's.
///When I did it was like crapping a cinder block
 
2014-02-25 10:48:41 AM

Fissile: First off, the American Revolution was a side show in a greater global conflict that was taking place between the French and British empires.  Had the Crown been able to bring the full weight of the British military to bear against the American revolutionaries,  the capitol of the UK would be located in Washington today, except it would be called New London.

The French provided money, training, uniforms, weapons supplies, and most importantly, naval power.  Ever hear of the Battle of the Chesapeake?   You know, that little skirmish where the French Navy biatch slapped the British Navy?   No, I didn't think so.


Considering the fact  westarted that war, you're welcome.

MURICA.
 
2014-02-25 10:50:19 AM

Fissile: The French provided money, training, uniforms, weapons supplies, and most importantly, naval power.  Ever hear of the Battle of the Chesapeake?   You know, that little skirmish where the French Navy biatch slapped the British Navy?   No, I didn't think so.


We repaid that debt.

With interest.

Twice.

Plus, France only helped the fledgling US because they felt it was in the best interests of *FRANCE*.  Then, almost immediately after, we have The Quasi-War.

Of course, this was from "We can fark up any kind of a revolution" France, you know the one where they overthrew a monarch, but instead of following the example of the fledgling nation they helped to create, they descended into madness which ended up eventually with the rise of a military dictatorship, and the near conquest of all of Europe by a *CORSICAN*, of all people.

So yeah, I know a little about the history of Franco-American relations.

/Uh-Oh!
 
2014-02-25 11:10:02 AM
Well I guess that's the end of it then. (Tears up Singapore Army enlistment papers.)
 
2014-02-25 12:08:44 PM

dittybopper: We repaid that debt.

With interest.

Twice.


You realize that in WWI we were thinking of entering the war on the side of Germany, right, up until they torpedoed one ship too many.

You do realize that we didn't declare war on Germany in WWII, right, until AFTER they declared war on us.

Right.
 
2014-02-25 12:14:04 PM

Satanic_Hamster: dittybopper: We repaid that debt.

With interest.

Twice.

You realize that in WWI we were thinking of entering the war on the side of Germany, right, up until they torpedoed one ship too many.

You do realize that we didn't declare war on Germany in WWII, right, until AFTER they declared war on us.

Right.


There was tremendous debate in the US during WWI about what role, if any, the US should take.   Most wanted to stay out of it, some wanted to throw in with Germany, others wanted to go with the UK.   In the end, American business interests that wanted to loot the substantial amount of German owned property in the US won out.
 
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