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(Daily Mail)   Looks like the Italians have the best army rations to give to their troops, the French have the snootiest and the British like it hot: What army ration packs say about a nation and their attitude towards keeping their troops on their feet   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 123
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2014-02-25 12:05:10 AM
40% proof

Aaaaand that's where I stopped reading.

I did look at the pictures, though.
 
2014-02-25 12:10:35 AM
I like how they decided to display the main entree pack (the cardboard box) of the U.S. MRE upside down, so you can't see what it is.
 
2014-02-25 12:31:04 AM
From TFA: There are plenty of snacks packed into the Australian ration including a steak bar, processed cheese and a military-issue packet of Vegemite, as well as a spoon which doubles as a can opener.

So, Australia apparently includes chemical weapons in their MREs. Nice. ;)

/the spoon/can-opener is nifty; not something at all new, I'm sure, but I've not seen one before
 
2014-02-25 12:38:32 AM

fusillade762: 40% proof

Aaaaand that's where I stopped reading.

I did look at the pictures, though.


That is a rather ambiguous rating.

Is it 40% of 100% alcohol, or 200 proof, which would be 80 proof, and therefore 40% alcohol, or 40 proof which is 20% alcohol?  Why do we still use proof anyway instead of just ABV?

Also, WTF are 'cranberries, osmotic'?

/that last one is rhetorical
//I Googled it, not that excited
///What's wrong with saying 'dried cranberries' ?
 
2014-02-25 12:55:20 AM

mamoru: From TFA: There are plenty of snacks packed into the Australian ration including a steak bar, processed cheese and a military-issue packet of Vegemite, as well as a spoon which doubles as a can opener.

So, Australia apparently includes chemical weapons in their MREs. Nice. ;)

/the spoon/can-opener is nifty; not something at all new, I'm sure, but I've not seen one before


Basically a P-38 with a scoop on the handle end
 
2014-02-25 02:02:49 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: P-38


Despite knowing what you meant, I pictured a Lockheed P-38 Lightning outfitted with a scoop.  Great for picking up the enemy and dropping them into volcanoes.
 
2014-02-25 02:33:19 AM
If I were doing some serious backcountry hiking, I'd take the French rations.
 
2014-02-25 04:00:38 AM
The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.
 
2014-02-25 04:02:30 AM

Solid State Vittles: If I were doing some serious backcountry hiking, I'd take the French rations.


I dunno, seems like a lot of that stuff would attract critters. Granted that venison pate sounds intriguing.
Definitely the disposable heater option, though.
 
2014-02-25 04:06:15 AM

OhioUGrad: The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.


Most MREs are inedible without it I've found
 
2014-02-25 04:11:12 AM
Hrm, just looked up JSDF MRE. I have a buddy who's former JSDF. I wonder if he can get me a current one to try. They don't look too bad. However, MREs are MREs...
 
2014-02-25 04:14:18 AM

Solid State Vittles: If I were doing some serious backcountry hiking, I'd take the French rations.


The exchange rate, last I heard, was one French ration for 7 American MREs. Seems like they are universally recognized as the best.

Anyway, how does FOOD get qualified as snooty ?
 
2014-02-25 04:17:34 AM
I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.
 
2014-02-25 04:19:51 AM
Lots of deserts in those rations.

/article is terribly written, as usual.
 
2014-02-25 04:20:17 AM

mamoru: From TFA: There are plenty of snacks packed into the Australian ration including a steak bar, processed cheese and a military-issue packet of Vegemite, as well as a spoon which doubles as a can opener.

So, Australia apparently includes chemical weapons in their MREs. Nice. ;)

/the spoon/can-opener is nifty; not something at all new, I'm sure, but I've not seen one before


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Ration_Eating_Device
 
2014-02-25 04:22:23 AM
In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.
 
2014-02-25 04:33:15 AM

CRtwenty: OhioUGrad: The first time I ever tried Tabasco was when my neighbor brought me home an MRE when I was little...liked spicy food ever since.

Most MREs are inedible without it I've found


Wouldn't surprise me, but I was little so just having food in a package like that was cool to me.
 
2014-02-25 04:35:57 AM

p4p3rm4t3: In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.


When I was in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, there was a Canadian camp a few miles from ours. The comm chief found tons of excuses to "cross train" with the Canadians, and he'd always trade about 8 cases of our MREs for theirs, 1:1.

Your boys had real bread. We had good cheese spread. Both sides were excited about those trading runs.

/Sure was nice being an electronics tech. Comm chief always needed a favor.
 
2014-02-25 04:39:28 AM

Rhino_man: p4p3rm4t3: In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.

When I was in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, there was a Canadian camp a few miles from ours. The comm chief found tons of excuses to "cross train" with the Canadians, and he'd always trade about 8 cases of our MREs for theirs, 1:1.

Your boys had real bread. We had good cheese spread. Both sides were excited about those trading runs.

/Sure was nice being an electronics tech. Comm chief always needed a favor.


Beware the baked cherry dessert.
 
2014-02-25 04:44:39 AM

mamoru: From TFA: There are plenty of snacks packed into the Australian ration including a steak bar, processed cheese and a military-issue packet of Vegemite, as well as a spoon which doubles as a can opener.

So, Australia apparently includes chemical weapons in their MREs. Nice. ;)

/the spoon/can-opener is nifty; not something at all new, I'm sure, but I've not seen one before


It's smart. Even the Afghans won;t eat it,
 
2014-02-25 04:49:17 AM

Sgt Otter: I like how they decided to display the main entree pack (the cardboard box) of the U.S. MRE upside down, so you can't see what it is.


I'm not sure how, in general, you were supposed to recognize anything without reading the labels.  And if you can read the labels, then you know what language the labels are in, which makes it pretty damn easy to know which country it's from.  So what was the point of guessing?

Granted there were a few cases were the match between country wasn't 1:1, such as Germany/Austria, but still.
 
2014-02-25 04:50:34 AM
When I was in the 22 SAS (Imaginary Troop), we foraged for tree bark to use for tea and ate live voles! But you try and tell kid soldiers these days how hard is was back then, and all they whine about is IEDs and exploding donkeys.
 
2014-02-25 04:50:49 AM

robohobo: I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.


I can deal with it in a pinch, but it certainly wouldn't be what I'd use given the choice.
 
2014-02-25 04:56:44 AM
IDF Luf. Sort of like kosher spam. Very much mystery meat, and the nasty slime in the can made it all the nastier.


f.nanafiles.co.il
 
2014-02-25 05:00:08 AM

Yes this is dog: robohobo: I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.

I can deal with it in a pinch, but it certainly wouldn't be what I'd use given the choice.


Are you currently serving? Formerly? Can a soldier not bring their own?
 
2014-02-25 05:01:50 AM
I've done a little reading on US Rations throughout the ages. They're experimenting with one called the "First Strike Ration" nowadays. They don't last as long I think, and they're lighter, but they're supposed to be much easier to consume.

Think of a cold hot pocket with nothing but an uncut roll of pepperoni inside for the entree. Comes in a lot of different flavors, but this is the jist of it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Strike_Ration">http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/First_Strike_Ration
 
2014-02-25 05:07:46 AM

tjassen: IDF Luf. Sort of like kosher spam. Very much mystery meat, and the nasty slime in the can made it all the nastier.


[f.nanafiles.co.il image 600x395]


Good god, that looks revolting, like something the cat shat out.
 
2014-02-25 05:23:18 AM
p4p3rm4t3:
In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.

Rhino_man:
When I was in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, there was a Canadian camp a few miles from ours. The comm chief found tons of excuses to "cross train" with the Canadians, and he'd always trade about 8 cases of our MREs for theirs, 1:1.

Your boys had real bread. We had good cheese spread. Both sides were excited about those trading runs.


Calling petit pain "real bread" is perhaps generous, but it is pretty good with peanut butter or stew.  I had IMP's about 15 years ago in the Reserves and honestly I thought they were excellent for what they were.  I hoarded some of the toothpaste-tubes of honey and peanut butter for years after I quit.

I hear the Americans have developed pizza for MRE's, which sounds like a challenge.
 
2014-02-25 05:28:58 AM

p4p3rm4t3: In Canada we call it a IMP. They aren't the best food but a trained expert can use the contents to make bombs if needed. So there's that.


I never realized my nearest bomb making facility was Tim Horton's.

/themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2014-02-25 05:35:08 AM
robohobo:   I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.

Agreed.  This stuff easily trumps Tabasco:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-25 05:56:14 AM
Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.
 
2014-02-25 05:57:26 AM

SirEattonHogg: robohobo:   I don't get the obsession with Tabasco. It's a bit of heat that tastes mainly like metallic vinegar. It's certainly not  tasty.

Agreed.  This stuff easily trumps Tabasco:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x239]


They have that at IHOPs here.

Satanus Maximus: Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.


If you were clogged...wouldn't you spend less time on the shiatter?
 
2014-02-25 06:00:35 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk
why are the spanish troops getting so many condoms?
 
2014-02-25 06:09:39 AM
There's a terribly complex and convoluted war game called The Campaign for North Africa.  You have to pay very careful attention to logistics in order to do anything in it.

One of the features of the Italian troops is that they require a bunch of extra water per unit in order to boil their pasta.
 
2014-02-25 06:17:08 AM

Satanus Maximus: Keep on soldiers on their fet, eh? American MREs kept me on my ass in the toilet.... Those things would clog me up.


Sounds more like MREs were Liquid Plumbr to you
 
2014-02-25 06:19:34 AM
BTW...nothing beat the old C Rations the US Army had. Those things were good, esp for camping etc...even got some smokes and TP with them
 
2014-02-25 06:29:13 AM
I've eaten British rations and US MREs. Of the two I think I would come down in favour of the British rations although it's not quite a like-for-like comparison since MREs are individual meals instead of a 24-hour pack.

The best thing about MREs is they contain bread and cake items (though they have a slightly odd taste) and the heaters. The best thing about UK rations is the selection of sundries like sweets & beverages, and the 24-hour format is more compact than 2 or 3 MREs.

I think of the ones shown in the article I would rank them German, Australian, Estonian, French, Canadian, Spanish, Singapore, Italian. The Italian ration's only redeeming feature is the booze which I suspect is because the rest of it is so unappealing.
 
2014-02-25 06:31:02 AM
America's says, "We love our giant bloated military contracts with corner-cutting 'free market' (you'll need several hours with an Orwellian translator to understand what that means) solutions that get the job done.  Our troops will be fed dad gum, but flavor and health are the least of our concerns."

 

padraig: Anyway, how does FOOD get qualified as snooty ?


I was going to say something about including an unnecessary and time-intensive process, but I really think the criteria is a flavor that doesn't go with beef & potatoes and is therefore alien to Midwestern xenophobes.

robohobo: If you were clogged...wouldn't you spend less time on the shiatter?


Not if constipation results in labor-like contractions for 7 hours before you pass the first turd.  You sit on the toilet for hours grasping at hope.
 
2014-02-25 06:36:19 AM

Sgt Otter: I like how they decided to display the main entree pack (the cardboard box) of the U.S. MRE upside down, so you can't see what it is.


What difference does it make?  The stuff's all shown still sealed up in bags, tins and boxes.  It's impossible to compare the actual "food" inside.  The pics don't say much about the food as the packaging.
 
2014-02-25 06:51:05 AM

dragonchild: Sgt Otter: I like how they decided to display the main entree pack (the cardboard box) of the U.S. MRE upside down, so you can't see what it is.

What difference does it make?  The stuff's all shown still sealed up in bags, tins and boxes.  It's impossible to compare the actual "food" inside.  The pics don't say much about the food as the packaging.


You know, now I want to see professionally staged picture of their content in proper dinnerware. Making them look fancy and nothing like how they are usually eaten.

/I swear this is a repeat from a few days ago which was a repost of a 2-3 years old article that is making a new set of round in the news machine.
 
2014-02-25 07:01:03 AM
The French have to design their rations to be eaten on the run.
 
2014-02-25 07:04:02 AM
I would love to buy a first-strike ration and a Unitized Group Ration-Express carton or single meal to compare against what I have had in the past (modern MRE).
 
2014-02-25 07:05:40 AM
Curious to what the Russians are feeding their troops.
 
2014-02-25 07:07:39 AM

Tannhauser: The French have to design their rations to be eaten on the run.


I'm surprised their rations don't come with a white napkin.
 
2014-02-25 07:11:15 AM
Does the heater say "Rock or something" on it?
 
2014-02-25 07:20:59 AM
Buncha pussies.

When I was a kid, my cousin used to bring back C-rations for us.  And yes, I *LIKED* ham and motherfarkers.

But having said that, MREs were better than the C-rats, as I found out when I joined the Army a few years after.
 
2014-02-25 07:30:36 AM

dittybopper: Buncha pussies.

When I was a kid, my cousin used to bring back C-rations for us.  And yes, I *LIKED* ham and motherfarkers.

But having said that, MREs were better than the C-rats, as I found out when I joined the Army a few years after.


C rations? you lucky bastard... we had Logan bars and loved em.
 
2014-02-25 07:32:50 AM
Why is there so much pate and Vegemite out there? What is wrong with people??
 
2014-02-25 07:39:33 AM

No Catchy Nickname: Good god, that looks revolting, like something the cat shat out.


It pales in comparison to properly prepared sea cucumber.  I've been checking out wholesalers, and the serving suggestions all look like this:

farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2014-02-25 07:43:18 AM
My Drill Sergeant in 1979: "You are being clothed armed and fed by the lowest bidder. Don't expect too much."
 
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