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(Den of Geek (US))   In one of the most horribly written press releases of all time, Steven Moffat reveals that there will be a new companion for the Doctor. A male one ... with a mysterious background. Where have we heard this before?   (denofgeek.us) divider line 90
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2014-02-24 12:35:09 PM  
cdn.sosogay.co.uk
 
2014-02-24 02:05:59 PM  
Before anyone panics, this is a new companion in addition to Jenna Coleman. He's also pretty hot himself.

auth.denofgeek.com


/hot
 
2014-02-24 02:14:15 PM  
John Barrowman
 
2014-02-24 02:15:00 PM  
It's an honour to be able to work alongside Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman ...

I'd love to work alongside Jenna Coleman. Better yet, a few feet behind her and slightly off to one side.
 
2014-02-24 02:16:33 PM  

the801: [cdn.sosogay.co.uk image 450x250]


Who's the (former) Doctor kissing?
 
2014-02-24 02:16:36 PM  

Wellon Dowd: It's an honour to be able to work alongside Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman ...

I'd love to work alongside Jenna Coleman. Better yet, a few feet behind her and slightly off to one side.

 
2014-02-24 02:18:52 PM  
www.whoblackpool.com

"Genius! How original!"
 
2014-02-24 02:24:21 PM  
Besides your fanfic?
 
2014-02-24 02:27:21 PM  
+10 wins if they can put in the script the Doctor yelling male companion's name is an idiot.
 
2014-02-24 02:29:46 PM  
Mickey Smith is coming back?  What does Rose Tyler have to say about this?
 
2014-02-24 02:30:55 PM  

Wellon Dowd: It's an honour to be able to work alongside Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman ...

I'd love to work alongside Jenna Coleman. Better yet, a few feet behind her and slightly off to one side.


Off to one side? Hell no, I'd like to be dead centered...
 
2014-02-24 02:31:28 PM  
Moffat can't write press releases either?

What DOESN'T that guy suck at?

/Sherlock is pretty good...
 
2014-02-24 02:32:40 PM  
Moffat doing a piss-poor job at writing something?  That's unpossible!
 
2014-02-24 02:33:59 PM  

limeyfellow: +10 wins if they can put in the script the Doctor yelling male companion's name is an idiot.


Imbecile. I don't know why this is sad. The male and female companion combo has usually worked pretty well.

I wonder if there is anything to him being a teacher at the same school as Barbara and Ian? Are we going to get to find out what happened to Susan?
 
2014-02-24 02:36:15 PM  
To the Moffatt haters:

growlermag.com
 
2014-02-24 02:37:55 PM  

Teufelaffe: Moffat doing a piss-poor job at writing something?  That's unpossible!


Take a look at what he put down outside of the context of the article:

"For the fourth time in Doctor Who history, Coal Hill School is coming to the aid of the TARDIS. In 1963 teachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright accompanied the First Doctor. These days it's the turn of Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald. And very soon now, Sam Anderson as Danny Pink will be entering the world of the Doctor. But how and why? Answers are coming later this year in Peter Capaldi's first series of Doctor Who!"

Ouch.  That's just painful to read, from construction to execution.  And the concept's bloody awful, too.  Another MYSTERIOUS companion?  Zzzzzz....

\as a longtime Who fan, I wonder if it is time for the show to take a few years off
 
2014-02-24 02:46:19 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Teufelaffe: Moffat doing a piss-poor job at writing something?  That's unpossible!

Take a look at what he put down outside of the context of the article:

"For the fourth time in Doctor Who history, Coal Hill School is coming to the aid of the TARDIS. In 1963 teachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright accompanied the First Doctor. These days it's the turn of Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald. And very soon now, Sam Anderson as Danny Pink will be entering the world of the Doctor. But how and why? Answers are coming later this year in Peter Capaldi's first series of Doctor Who!"

Ouch.  That's just painful to read, from construction to execution.  And the concept's bloody awful, too.  Another MYSTERIOUS companion?  Zzzzzz....

\as a longtime Who fan, I wonder if it is time for the show to take a few years off


I'm ready to take a few years off from watching it.
 
2014-02-24 02:51:04 PM  
Does he burst into flame...?

/Limeyfellow: Harry Sullivan was not... Ok. Maybe a little bit...
 
2014-02-24 02:52:47 PM  

Panty Sniffer: Mickey Smith is coming back?  What does Rose Tyler have to say about this?


Rickey


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2014-02-24 02:53:41 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: [www.whoblackpool.com image 427x600]

"Genius! How original!"


Agrees:

ic.pics.livejournal.com

pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-02-24 03:13:30 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: DjangoStonereaver: [www.whoblackpool.com image 427x600]

"Genius! How original!"

Agrees:

[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 640x480]

[pbs.twimg.com image 667x500]


img.fark.net
 
2014-02-24 03:13:46 PM  
If he has the hots for the Doctor, I'm leaving.
 
2014-02-24 03:15:47 PM  
Gives Capaldi more people to bounce off of. Seems like a good thing. Amy & Rory were better than just Amy for Smith, so let's give it a chance.

I'm gonna say mysterious new guy is Susan's kid.
 
2014-02-24 03:17:40 PM  

Panty Sniffer: Mickey Smith is coming back?  What does Rose Tyler have to say about this?


She doesn't give a crap. She has the LMD Doctor to play with.
 
2014-02-24 03:19:25 PM  
Can't be anymore ridiculous than Mos Def as a hitch hiker on H2G2.
 
2014-02-24 03:20:11 PM  

the801: [cdn.sosogay.co.uk image 450x250]


Is the Yaoi username intentional? I'm guessing it is, by the picture, but it could be a coincidence, I guess.
 
2014-02-24 03:29:27 PM  

wildcardjack: Can't be anymore ridiculous than Mos Def as a hitch hiker on H2G2.


Mos Def was awesome as Ford. The casting was about the only good thing about that movie.
 
2014-02-24 03:31:29 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Teufelaffe: Moffat doing a piss-poor job at writing something?  That's unpossible!

Take a look at what he put down outside of the context of the article:

"For the fourth time in Doctor Who history, Coal Hill School is coming to the aid of the TARDIS. In 1963 teachers Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright accompanied the First Doctor. These days it's the turn of Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald. And very soon now, Sam Anderson as Danny Pink will be entering the world of the Doctor. But how and why? Answers are coming later this year in Peter Capaldi's first series of Doctor Who!"

Ouch.  That's just painful to read, from construction to execution.  And the concept's bloody awful, too.  Another MYSTERIOUS companion?  Zzzzzz....

\as a longtime Who fan, I wonder if it is time for the show to take a few years off

I'm ready to take a few years off from watching it.


I don't know if I'm there yet ... does desperately trying to wipe away any memory of the last season count?

Oh, yeah, and don't forget that indications are that Moffat is going to be bringing back Vastra, Jenny, and Strax AGAIN, and there's rumors the Weeping Angels will be back AGAIN.

\guy gets a good idea and drives it straight into the ground
\\over and over again
 
2014-02-24 03:31:37 PM  
Will he be working under the Dr?

Bottom to Top?
 
2014-02-24 03:38:47 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: \guy gets a good idea and drives it straight into the ground
\\over and over again


So you're saying Moffat would fit in perfectly with the SNL writing staff?
 
2014-02-24 03:38:54 PM  
"Dr YOOOWHOOO!"?

I could get behind that.

*WINK*
 
2014-02-24 03:45:04 PM  

LazarusLong42: wildcardjack: Can't be anymore ridiculous than Mos Def as a hitch hiker on H2G2.

Mos Def was awesome as Ford. The casting was about the only good thing about that movie.


There's just some leaps in story telling that go beyond believable. Black presidents, action heroes, ballerinas, scientists, actuaries, all perfectly believable. Hitch hiker? Ha, might as well try to tell a story about a black pro hockey player.
 
2014-02-24 03:45:12 PM  
Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?
 
2014-02-24 03:48:13 PM  

OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?


In a word? Farkers.

/I like his work just fine.
 
2014-02-24 03:54:48 PM  

s2s2s2: "Dr YOOOWHOOO!"?

I could get behind that.

*WINK*


Don't wink. Don't even wink. Wink and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don't turn your back, don't look away, and DON'T wink.
 
2014-02-24 03:56:14 PM  

OceanVortex: "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards


you know what they say about a monkey and a typewriter...
 
2014-02-24 03:58:05 PM  

ManateeGag: OceanVortex: "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards

you know what they say about a monkey and a typewriter...


You end up with poo all over your envelopes?
 
2014-02-24 04:09:27 PM  

peasandcarrots: If he has the hots for the Doctor, I'm leaving.


He'll have the hots for Oswald.

The modern series has always had some level of sexual tension, either between companions (Amy and Rory) or between the Doctor and a companion, with the only exception being the episodes with Tennant and Tate. Capaldi's way too old for it not to be creepy to have a thing going with Oswald, so adding a male companion is really the only option if they wanna keep the sexual tension thing going on the show.
 
2014-02-24 04:09:42 PM  

OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?



If you don't understand his amateurishly convoluted writing, you must be stupid: "There's been a weird backlash among, I presume, fairly stupid people about the fact the shows [Doctor Who and Sherlock] are complicated and clever, but they're both huge international hits."

Sexist much? "You have to hand it to the Doctor for dumping a slightly needy girlfriend by palming her off on a copy of himself. He tried leaving her in a parallel universe, and that didn't work."

Let's shiat on one character as much as possible, that'll make for good TV: "Part of the mission statement when writing a script for Doctor Who is how bad of a time can you give Amy Pond."

Let's not forget that he's sexist: "There's this issue you're not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That's the truth. We don't, as little boys, play at being married - we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands."

He's lazy: "I write about what has happened to me as that involves the minimum amount of research."

Did I mention that he's sexist? "Well, the world is vastly counted in favour of men at every level - except if you live in a civilised country and you're sort of educated and middle-class, because then you're almost certainly junior in your relationship and in a state of permanent, crippled apology. Your preferences are routinely mocked. There's a huge, unfortunate lack of respect for anything male."


All of which shows pretty plainly in his writing.  Pre-Moffat companions were fleshed out characters with backstories and things about their lives that didn't involve The Doctor.  Meanwhile, Moffat's companions essentially (and literally in the case of Clara) have nothing about them that isn't about The Doctor in some way.  Before Moffat, the companions were just that, companions.  Now they're just accessories that The Doctor keeps around so he always has someone he can show how cool he is.

I'll leave you with a joke:

Joss Whedon and George R.R. Martin walk into a bar and everyone you've ever loved dies.  Then Steven Moffat walks in; everybody comes back to life without explanation, re-affirms their heterosexuality, and flirts with the main character who then makes a dick joke.
 
2014-02-24 04:10:38 PM  

OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?


It's just fans being fans. Give them enough time and they'll turn on any writer for the show. I think that it all comes down to the inevitable disappointment that the show isn't being written how they imagine they would write it.
 
2014-02-24 04:18:32 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?

It's just fans being fans. Give them enough time and they'll turn on any writer for the show. I think that it all comes down to the inevitable disappointment that the show isn't being written how they imagine they would write it.


Or, sometimes, the writers just get worse and/or have misses.  See also A. Sorkin and D.E. Kelley.
 
2014-02-24 04:18:41 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: I'll leave you with a joke:

Joss Whedon and George R.R. Martin walk into a bar and everyone you've ever loved dies. Then Steven Moffat walks in; everybody comes back to life without explanation, re-affirms their heterosexuality, and flirts with the main character who then makes a dick joke.


David E. Kelley walks in, and suddenly, the bar turns into a court room while all the peripheral loved ones become the most important people in your life.

Lindelof and Cuse walk in, the court room turns back into a bar where you reminisce about your first beer. Your order takes forever to come, and by the time you receive it, the drink order is screwed up.
 
2014-02-24 04:20:36 PM  

OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?


Not sure yet. I'm just Netflixing now and starting the Moffat era. I liked his pre-Moffat-era work, and 3 episodes into his Moffat-era work, I like it just fine. The story appears to be bridging nicely, the Daleks got a much-needed upgrade, The new Doctor is no Tennant, but that's hardly a writing flaw, and the title sequence finally left 1997 behind. People gonna people I guess.
 
2014-02-24 04:21:52 PM  

OceanVortex: Maybe I'm new to this... But it appears people don't like moffit's writing? Is that a thing?

What am I missing? I didn't think his writing was bad but maybe I missed it? What's the complaint here?

To me the who seasons pre-moffit were pretty...bland. "Blink" was a brightspot that won him awards and I think lead to him getting the full time gig. What am I missing?


Moffat is an okay writer, but his work as a showrunner started off bad and went to worse.  He's responsible, in many ways, for some of the worst episodes of Who since the reboot, and that includes Fear Her.  Oh, and the silly dick jokes.

One of Moffat's big weaknesses is that he can't let a concept or idea go.  He has introduced River, Amy, Weeping Angels, and Jenny, Strax, and Vastra, which were all good one-offs.  But, as Moffat has moved on, he's added more and more to each characters' backstory so that it doesn't make sense.

River: is she dead or not?  Her run as The Impossible Astronaut is probably one of the worst thought-out plans in the history of the universe.
Amy: quite possibly the most irritating companion since Mel.
Weeping Angels: so, they're scavengers, then a malevolent force bent on destroying the Doctor, then scavengers again, then back to the evil.  Oh, and they can talk, too.
Vastra, et al: Yeah, there's some funny jokes here and there, but the jokes are cringeworthy more often than not.
Clara: The Impossible Girl.  She splintered herself from time to keep the Doctor out of danger.  Except all those times she didn't.

And then, the last season, the "movie poster" season, where Moffat went from just being arrogant to actively disliking fans.  He felt that fans would only comprehend one episode at a time, and they would prefer fluff.  That entire season is like a worst episodes list of the 2005 reboot: Nightmare in Silver, Journey, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, Angels Take Manhattan, Hide, Rings of Akhatenan.  All of  them have godawful writing, horrible dialogue, and just awful plot twists.  I've said it before, but when your promo publication, DWM, points out that your episode has one of the worst plots twists IN ALL OF DOCTOR WHO HISTORY, something's wrong.

I do wonder if many of these issues is related to doubts about Smith's talents as an actor.  He swings the screwdriver around like farking Excalibur, and bounces around like a moron most of the time.  I wonder if having a tested actor like Capaldi will help.  Tennant and Eccleston could rescue bad scripts almost on their own.  Smith couldn't.
 
2014-02-24 04:31:45 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I created this alt just for this thread: I'll leave you with a joke:

Joss Whedon and George R.R. Martin walk into a bar and everyone you've ever loved dies. Then Steven Moffat walks in; everybody comes back to life without explanation, re-affirms their heterosexuality, and flirts with the main character who then makes a dick joke.

David E. Kelley walks in, and suddenly, the bar turns into a court room while all the peripheral loved ones become the most important people in your life.

Lindelof and Cuse walk in, the court room turns back into a bar where you reminisce about your first beer. Your order takes forever to come, and by the time you receive it, the drink order is screwed up.


Hemingway walks in and looks at the old bartender, who was thin and gaunt with deep wrinkles in the back of his neck.  The brown blotches of skin cancer the sun brings from its reflection on the city streets were on his cheeks.  The blotches ran well down the sides of his face and this hands had the deep-creased scars from handling broken glass remanents from bar fights.  But none of these scars were fresh.  They were as old as erosions in the dirt roads in a dry county.  Everything about him was old except his eyes and they were the same color as 13 year-old scotch and were cheerful and undefeated.

Many of the bar patrons made fun of the old bartender and he was not angry.  Others, of the older barflies, looked at him and were sad.  But they did not show it and they spoke politely about the Dodgers and Yankees and the steady good weather and what they had seen.

"Tomorrow is going to be a good day with the convention in town." he said.
 
2014-02-24 04:42:06 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: And then, the last season, the "movie poster" season, where Moffat went from just being arrogant to actively disliking fans. He felt that fans would only comprehend one episode at a time, and they would prefer fluff.


holy shiat!  you just completely explains why I didn't care for any of that season.  Episodes just seems to end in weird spots.  Thank you!
 
2014-02-24 04:45:30 PM  

ManateeGag: whizbangthedirtfarmer: And then, the last season, the "movie poster" season, where Moffat went from just being arrogant to actively disliking fans. He felt that fans would only comprehend one episode at a time, and they would prefer fluff.

holy shiat!  you just completely explains why I didn't care for any of that season.  Episodes just seems to end in weird spots.  Thank you!


oh, and every time he pulls something that makes no sense about River out of his ass, he just makes her say "Spoilers" and it's supposed to come across as cute and flirty and not a way to hide the fact that he didn't think that far ahead.
 
2014-02-24 04:53:07 PM  

Teufelaffe: OtherLittleGuy: I created this alt just for this thread: I'll leave you with a joke:

Joss Whedon and George R.R. Martin walk into a bar and everyone you've ever loved dies. Then Steven Moffat walks in; everybody comes back to life without explanation, re-affirms their heterosexuality, and flirts with the main character who then makes a dick joke.

David E. Kelley walks in, and suddenly, the bar turns into a court room while all the peripheral loved ones become the most important people in your life.

Lindelof and Cuse walk in, the court room turns back into a bar where you reminisce about your first beer. Your order takes forever to come, and by the time you receive it, the drink order is screwed up.

Hemingway walks in and looks at the old bartender, who was thin and gaunt with deep wrinkles in the back of his neck.  The brown blotches of skin cancer the sun brings from its reflection on the city streets were on his cheeks.  The blotches ran well down the sides of his face and this hands had the deep-creased scars from handling broken glass remanents from bar fights.  But none of these scars were fresh.  They were as old as erosions in the dirt roads in a dry county.  Everything about him was old except his eyes and they were the same color as 13 year-old scotch and were cheerful and undefeated.

Many of the bar patrons made fun of the old bartender and he was not angry.  Others, of the older barflies, looked at him and were sad.  But they did not show it and they spoke politely about the Dodgers and Yankees and the steady good weather and what they had seen.

"Tomorrow is going to be a good day with the convention in town." he said.


Nice.  Too many 3 syllable words.  Remnants.  :)
 
2014-02-24 04:58:45 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: And then, the last season, the "movie poster" season, where Moffat went from just being arrogant to actively disliking fans. He felt that fans would only comprehend one episode at a time, and they would prefer fluff. That entire season is like a worst episodes list of the 2005 reboot: Nightmare in Silver, Journey, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, Angels Take Manhattan, Hide, Rings of Akhatenan. All of them have godawful writing, horrible dialogue, and just awful plot twists. I've said it before, but when your promo publication, DWM, points out that your episode has one of the worst plots twists IN ALL OF DOCTOR WHO HISTORY, something's wrong.


Who went from complex plots with lots of backstory to like you said, the "movie poster" season.  Guessing it had to do with the backlash against the complicated plots or the dozens of death threats he received the previous seasons.
Last season was an attempt to do a blockbuster movie each episode and it failed.  The 2nd half started out with a good idea(Clara's everywhere) and then jumped to the end after only a couple episodes because they were afraid of loosing stupid viewers who couldn't keep up with the plot.
Trying to do the blockbuster movie thing made none of the episodes feel special and what over-arching plot that was going on felt rushed and either tacked on or buried.
 
2014-02-24 04:59:36 PM  
Bah.  Was hoping for:

handson.provocateuse.com
 
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