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2014-02-24 08:53:31 AM
Of course it is. What will be amusing is how over the next 20 years or so, the Republicans reframe this so "Obamacare" was a disaster mitigated by careful and thoughtful Republican intervention, eventually becoming the "ACA" which everyone knows and loves.
OK, that itself might not be so funny; that's just politics as usual. What will be funny is how the American people actually believe it.
 
2014-02-24 09:03:51 AM

rumpelstiltskin: What will be funny is how the American people actually believe it.


Less funny "ha ha" and more funny "uh oh"
 
2014-02-24 09:39:43 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-24 09:40:00 AM

rumpelstiltskin: Of course it is. What will be amusing is how over the next 20 years or so, the Republicans reframe this so "Obamacare" was a disaster mitigated by careful and thoughtful Republican intervention, eventually becoming the "ACA" which everyone knows and loves.
OK, that itself might not be so funny; that's just politics as usual. What will be funny is how the American people actually believe it.


And of course they'll celebrate the pioneering role that the Heritage Foundation and Gov. Romney took in crafting this legislation.
 
2014-02-24 09:46:24 AM
If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.
 
2014-02-24 09:48:40 AM

SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.


The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?
 
2014-02-24 09:49:20 AM

SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.


Bro, did you even RTFA?
 
2014-02-24 09:50:57 AM

somedude210: The majority of the populace likes Obamacare


That's not what the Blogodome tells me, and if you can't trust the Blogodome, who can you trust?
 
2014-02-24 09:53:42 AM

somedude210: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?


That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html
 
2014-02-24 09:54:14 AM

somedude210: rumpelstiltskin: What will be funny is how the American people actually believe it.

Less funny "ha ha" and more funny "uh oh"


cdn3.sbnation.com

What's funny "uh oh"?
 
2014-02-24 09:55:48 AM
I'm shocked that these people have been lying to their base and screwing them out of benefits for years. SHOCKED!
 
2014-02-24 09:56:31 AM

SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.


*NEWSFLASH*
The United States is not a democracy and never has been.

Have a Day.
 
2014-02-24 09:57:03 AM

SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace,


cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com
 
2014-02-24 10:00:58 AM
Sounds like the fiscally conservative 43 attempts to dissolve it were worth it.
 
2014-02-24 10:04:46 AM

Gary-L: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

*NEWSFLASH*
The United States is not a democracy and never has been.

Have a Day.


False.

I sincerely hope you're not one of the people who likes to claim that the United States is a republic and, therefore, can not be a democracy.   Those people are too clever by half.
 
2014-02-24 10:12:17 AM

Weatherkiss: somedude210: rumpelstiltskin: What will be funny is how the American people actually believe it.

Less funny "ha ha" and more funny "uh oh"

[cdn3.sbnation.com image 300x237]

What's funny "uh oh"?


Ow. Right in the nostalgias.
 
2014-02-24 10:14:31 AM
linking you to HuffPo biatches!

//subby must be in college.
 
2014-02-24 10:16:04 AM

eraser8: Gary-L: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

*NEWSFLASH*
The United States is not a democracy and never has been.

Have a Day.

False.

I sincerely hope you're not one of the people who likes to claim that the United States is a republic and, therefore, can not be a democracy.   Those people are too clever by half.



http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/government_type.html

You were saying (trolling)?
 
2014-02-24 10:18:44 AM
Reading the comments in this thread, it is like everyone else is living in an alternate reality.

"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," said Republican Gov. Terry Branstad of Iowa, who called the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable" yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.
 
2014-02-24 10:20:03 AM

Gary-L: eraser8: Gary-L: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

*NEWSFLASH*
The United States is not a democracy and never has been.

Have a Day.

False.

I sincerely hope you're not one of the people who likes to claim that the United States is a republic and, therefore, can not be a democracy.   Those people are too clever by half.


http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/government_type.html

You were saying (trolling)?


Where does it say that the US is not a democracy?
 
2014-02-24 10:20:38 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]


i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?
 
2014-02-24 10:24:41 AM

SlothB77: Reading the comments in this thread, it is like everyone else is living in an alternate reality.

"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," said Republican Gov. Terry Branstad of Iowa, who called the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable" yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.


You know who else made "the costs of doing business higher "?  Abraham Lincoln.  Rich southerners hated him too.
 
2014-02-24 10:24:43 AM

SlothB77: I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.



Goddammitsomuch, you owe me a new ironymeter. You just exploded mine into a fine mist.
 
2014-02-24 10:24:50 AM

Danger Mouse: somedude210: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?

That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html


For awhile, people disapproved more of "Obamacare" than "the Affordable Care Act," because reasons. A few months ago I saw a poll where more people approved of "Obamacare" than "the Affordable Car Act." And since the start, people have overwhelmingly supported the actual major provisions of the ACA. Polling is a weird business.
 
2014-02-24 10:24:59 AM

Gary-L: eraser8: Gary-L: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

*NEWSFLASH*
The United States is not a democracy and never has been.

Have a Day.

False.

I sincerely hope you're not one of the people who likes to claim that the United States is a republic and, therefore, can not be a democracy.   Those people are too clever by half.


http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/government_type.html

You were saying (trolling)?


Do you believe that "republic" is not a subset of "democracy", or that "republic" and "democracy" are mutually exclusive? If so, why? If not, why bother arguing semantics?
 
2014-02-24 10:27:18 AM

Gary-L: You were saying (trolling)?


Okay.  So, you didn't even read your own links.  That's okay.

Your second link gives two interesting definitions:

Democracya form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but which is usually exercised indirectly through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed.

Hmmm.  That seems familiar.  Let's scroll down...

Republica representative democracy in which the people's elected deputies (representatives), not the people themselves, vote on legislation.

In the modern sense*, all republics are democracies...but, not all democracies are republics.  Examples of democracies that are not republics include the United Kindgdom, Canada, Australia and so forth.

* Before the modern era, the term republic referred only to the structure of government.
 
2014-02-24 10:27:44 AM

SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?



I'm so sick and tired of people thinking they have a right to know what they're eating. F*ck Moochelle and her "heatlhy eating" bullshiat. This is America!
 
2014-02-24 10:30:08 AM

Danger Mouse: somedude210: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?

That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html


Sort of.  American's, both democrats and republicans, love every part of obamacare, except the individual mandate, as long as you don't mention that it is part of obamacare.   They don't like obamacare, but have real problems giving real reasons why.   The reasons they give for not liking obamacare are all too often bogus.   Marketing done by the GOP has been excellent, but it isn't clear whether people will continue to buy the spin that the GOP has done.   There are good reasons not to like parts of obamacare and parts that should be changed/fixed, but the GOP doesn't want to do that.
 
2014-02-24 10:30:52 AM

spiderpaz: SlothB77: Reading the comments in this thread, it is like everyone else is living in an alternate reality.

"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," said Republican Gov. Terry Branstad of Iowa, who called the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable" yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.

You know who else made "the costs of doing business higher "?  Abraham Lincoln.  Rich southerners hated him too.



Don't get me started on the The Fair Labor Standards Act  and FDR. We conservatives hate him too for disallowing child labor.
 
2014-02-24 10:33:21 AM

SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?



Won't somebody think of the hundreds of thousands of business that had to close down when the FDA demanded they print ingredients and nutritional info on their labels?
 
2014-02-24 10:34:01 AM

eraser8: Examples of democracies that are not republics include the United Kindgdom, Canada, Australia and so forth.


I'm pretty sure the UK, Canada, and Australia have "elected deputies [who] vote on legislation".
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-02-24 10:36:21 AM
SlothB77:

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.

Yes, you're the only one in touch with reality here.
 
2014-02-24 10:39:39 AM

SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?


Weird that most of the author's complaints seem to revolve around regulations that haven't been created yet.  Also, there's this:

"For example, over 80 percent of McDonald's locations are owned and operated by franchisees. Each of these franchisees will now be tasked with complying with the mandate-paying for new signage, removing profit-generating advertisements to make room for the calorie data, updating menus every time recipies change, and accommodating inspectors. "

This is an interesting complaint, because these are all things that franchisees already have to do.  Plus, what "profit-generating advertisements" are there that fit in the tiny spaces that the calorie data are relegated to?
 
2014-02-24 10:40:55 AM

vpb: SlothB77:

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.

Yes, you're the only one in touch with reality here.


The rest of us are all sheeple.

https://xkcd.com/610/
 
2014-02-24 10:41:04 AM

qorkfiend: eraser8: Examples of democracies that are not republics include the United Kindgdom, Canada, Australia and so forth.

I'm pretty sure the UK, Canada, and Australia have "elected deputies [who] vote on legislation".


Yeah.  But, they're not republics because their heads of state are not elected.

A recent article from the UK Telegraph makes this point abundantly clear...

Australia's Governor-General suggests nation should become a republic

The Queen's representative in Australia, Governor-General Quentin Bryce, has declared support for Australia becoming a republic in an extraordinary speech which is set to reignite debate about the nation's ties to Britain. Ms Bryce became the first Governor-General to back an Australian republic - a position which puts her at odds with prime minister, Tony Abbott, who is a staunch monarchist.
 
2014-02-24 10:43:30 AM

eraser8: Yeah.  But, they're not republics because their heads of state are not elected.


That criteria was not a part of your definition of "republic".
 
2014-02-24 10:47:12 AM

qorkfiend: eraser8: Yeah.  But, they're not republics because their heads of state are not elected.

That criteria was not a part of your definition of "republic".


That wasn't MY definition.  That was the definition from the link  Gary-L furnished.

I used that definition to show that, even according to his own sources,  Gary-L was wrong.
 
2014-02-24 11:00:23 AM

Danger Mouse: somedude210: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?

That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html


A big chunk of the people who disapprove of ObamaCare do so because they think ObamaCare didn't go far enough; they either want people everywhere to have the option of enrolling in a Medicare-like program or a whole hog shift to Medicare for All. See Figure 5.

Beyond that, a majority of Americans, including a significant minority of people who disapprove of ObamaCare and a majority of people who don't know or refuse to provide an opinion on ObamaCare, think that opponents should accept that ObamaCare is the law of the land and work to improve it rather than continue their efforts to repeal. See Figure 4.
 
2014-02-24 11:01:34 AM

SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?


Oh, you mean like how California has been doing for a while now?
 
2014-02-24 11:07:05 AM

Arkanaut: SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?

Weird that most of the author's complaints seem to revolve around regulations that haven't been created yet.  Also, there's this:

"For example, over 80 percent of McDonald's locations are owned and operated by franchisees. Each of these franchisees will now be tasked with complying with the mandate-paying for new signage, removing profit-generating advertisements to make room for the calorie data, updating menus every time recipies change, and accommodating inspectors. "

This is an interesting complaint, because these are all things that franchisees already have to do.  Plus, what "profit-generating advertisements" are there that fit in the tiny spaces that the calorie data are relegated to?


Not to mention they already do this in New York... where shockingly fast food places exist and have no problems doing any of that.
 
2014-02-24 11:11:23 AM

qorkfiend: eraser8: Examples of democracies that are not republics include the United Kindgdom, Canada, Australia and so forth.

I'm pretty sure the UK, Canada, and Australia have "elected deputies [who] vote on legislation".


Indeed, but we are not republics, we are parliementary democracies. No executive branch (as such) therefore no president. The PM is not specifically voted for, he is typically the leader of the house majority party..
 
2014-02-24 11:15:07 AM

Nine Hundred and Eight: Arkanaut: SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?

Weird that most of the author's complaints seem to revolve around regulations that haven't been created yet.  Also, there's this:

"For example, over 80 percent of McDonald's locations are owned and operated by franchisees. Each of these franchisees will now be tasked with complying with the mandate-paying for new signage, removing profit-generating advertisements to make room for the calorie data, updating menus every time recipies change, and accommodating inspectors. "

This is an interesting complaint, because these are all things that franchisees already have to do.  Plus, what "profit-generating advertisements" are there that fit in the tiny spaces that the calorie data are relegated to?

Not to mention they already do this in New York... where shockingly fast food places exist and have no problems doing any of that.


The big complaint is that there are "dozens, hundreds, thousands" of configurations for burritos, pizzas, and sandwhiches.

They seem to either be ignorant, or just flat out ignore, that Dominos (as an example) breaks down each ingredient and the calories. Then, you use math to figure out how many calories are in a serving. Chipotle does the same thing. Giving you the fat/calories per ingredient, and then you just add it up.
 
2014-02-24 11:19:19 AM

kidgenius: Nine Hundred and Eight: Arkanaut: SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?

Weird that most of the author's complaints seem to revolve around regulations that haven't been created yet.  Also, there's this:

"For example, over 80 percent of McDonald's locations are owned and operated by franchisees. Each of these franchisees will now be tasked with complying with the mandate-paying for new signage, removing profit-generating advertisements to make room for the calorie data, updating menus every time recipies change, and accommodating inspectors. "

This is an interesting complaint, because these are all things that franchisees already have to do.  Plus, what "profit-generating advertisements" are there that fit in the tiny spaces that the calorie data are relegated to?

Not to mention they already do this in New York... where shockingly fast food places exist and have no problems doing any of that.

The big complaint is that there are "dozens, hundreds, thousands" of configurations for burritos, pizzas, and sandwhiches.

They seem to either be ignorant, or just flat out ignore, that Dominos (as an example) breaks down each ingredient and the calories. Then, you use math to figure out how many calories are in a serving. Chipotle does the same thing. Giving you the fat/calories per ingredient, and then you just add it up.


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-24 11:46:48 AM

kidgenius: Nine Hundred and Eight: Arkanaut: SlothB77: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 720x278]

i'm guessing this cartoonist has never seen this.

we are all going to pretend the menu labeling rule doesn't exist for this thread, right?

Weird that most of the author's complaints seem to revolve around regulations that haven't been created yet.  Also, there's this:

"For example, over 80 percent of McDonald's locations are owned and operated by franchisees. Each of these franchisees will now be tasked with complying with the mandate-paying for new signage, removing profit-generating advertisements to make room for the calorie data, updating menus every time recipies change, and accommodating inspectors. "

This is an interesting complaint, because these are all things that franchisees already have to do.  Plus, what "profit-generating advertisements" are there that fit in the tiny spaces that the calorie data are relegated to?

Not to mention they already do this in New York... where shockingly fast food places exist and have no problems doing any of that.

The big complaint is that there are "dozens, hundreds, thousands" of configurations for burritos, pizzas, and sandwhiches.

They seem to either be ignorant, or just flat out ignore, that Dominos (as an example) breaks down each ingredient and the calories. Then, you use math to figure out how many calories are in a serving. Chipotle does the same thing. Giving you the fat/calories per ingredient, and then you just add it up.


As a Californian.. everywhere I eat fast food does this.

/and I keep forgetting booze isnt readily available.
 
2014-02-24 11:48:31 AM

Danger Mouse: That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


Only because they're too stupid to know what's in the bill.  If you go around and survey them, they will literally support 85 to 100% of the content in the ACA as being good measures and good for the country.  The problem comes when you call the entire package by the names they know mean "bad."

The Absolute LOWEST approval rating for any part of the ACA as shown here  http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/  is 40%, and that's for the individual mandage (which obviously makes sense.  The average approval rate is SEVENTY PERCENTand that's including the widely (in comparison to everything else) unpopular mandate.  But only 37% have a favorable view on 
"ObamaCare."

The reason the ACA is so demonized is simple.  Its components are INSANELY popular with all Americans, and that's incredibly scary if you fought tooth and nail against it and lost anyway.  The only remaining option to stay relevant in the years coming is to pretend the things it does that everyone is in favor of aren't part of it, and that its really bad and unpopular.
 
2014-02-24 11:54:54 AM

SlothB77: Reading the comments in this thread, it is like everyone else is living in an alternate reality.

"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," said Republican Gov. Terry Branstad of Iowa, who called the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable" yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."

Unaffordable and unsustainable.  Yeah, republicans are going to be falling all over themselves to take credit for that.  And Americans are going to fall in love with that program (being dependent on a government program is not the same as liking it.)  And businesses that blame Obamacare for raising their prices are *actually* forced to raise their prices because of Obamacare.  Surprise, surprise, Obamacare makes the costs of doing business higher.  Lots of denial going on in this thread.  I see some people have completely convinced themselves they are in an alternate reality.  When it all comes crashing down, they are going to be in for a shock.


img.fark.net
 
2014-02-24 12:07:33 PM
It won't stop the GOP governors from keeping millions of poor people from getting health care coverage by refusing to expand Medicaid out of sheer, democratic party hating spite.

Sure the federal government picks up almost all of the tab, and sure, it would help a huge number of people in their own states. I still can't find any reasonable explanation for their behavior. They are keeping poor people from getting health care coverage because "fark you, Obama". That makes them nothing but malicious assholes.
 
2014-02-24 12:23:18 PM

Danger Mouse: somedude210: SCUBA_Archer: If these governors don't want to follow the will of the populace, I guess we can find ones that do.  Funny how that works in a Democracy.

The majority of the populace likes Obamacare, so...who's getting rid of who now?

That's simply not true.  Without getting into a debate about the ACA, let's just state that the latest polls show the majority of americans still do not approve of Obamacare.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_hea l th_care_plan-1130.html


RealClearPolitics seriously?

static3.fjcdn.com
 
2014-02-24 12:33:40 PM
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett, a Republican who is among his party's most vulnerable incumbents in the fall election, said he's working to expand his state's Medicaid program, but the process had been cumbersome and difficult. He said it still remained unclear, from a fiscal standpoint, if the health care law would be functioning in two years.
"There are a lot more unknowns than there are knowns," Corbett said.

So this guys biggest complaint is that the GOP says they want to repeal it and that's somehow the laws fault?
 
2014-02-24 12:40:33 PM
Super_pope:   The reason the ACA is so demonized is simple.  Its components are INSANELY popular with all Americans

So INSANELY popular we need to punish those that don't participate?
 
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