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2014-02-24 01:43:06 AM  
6 votes:
Two kids did so well that they ran out of words? Sounds like a win to me.
2014-02-24 08:01:59 PM  
1 vote:

WhoGAS: Ah. I miss sarcasm a lot. My apologies.

No apology necessary.  I should apologize for taking off on your eminently sensible comment.  But I have read enough threads on Fark and put up with enough discussions with supposed education professionals about the evils of standardized tests, teaching to the test, rote memorization, and how terrible it is to try to instill self-discipline - the great creativity killer - that my cynicism kicks in and I go for the sarcasm.

I am a fan of correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar.  I did my first gig as an Adjunct Professor in an Operations Management Course back in the late 70s.  Did that off and on until a couple years ago.  Whenever students turned in a research paper or answered an essay question on an exam, I added or deducted points for grammar and spelling.  Oh, the outrage!  So I took to making a note of my standards for writing term papers and essays on the course syllabus.  I am still incredulous that juniors and seniors in college had never heard of Kate Turabian, let alone did not have a well-worn copy of her style book.  I was assured that, as business majors, they weren't going to be judged on spelling and grammar!  I probably don't need to tell you that grammar and spelling standards did not improve during my 30 years of part-time teaching.  In spite of being labelled as an anachronistic pedant - one of  the nicer ways it was put - I stuck to my guns and if you turned in a term paper that was absolutely brilliant in theory and your understanding of the material but riddled with grammatical errors or misspellings, you were going to be lucky to walk out of there with a C.  In my full time jobs in industry or consulting I frequently criticized people for the poor communication skills that are attendant to lousy grammar and spelling.  If a person cannot communicate effectively, he can never lead or even add to the discussion.

Enough of the soapbox and I am desirous of a refill in my Scotch glass.

Thank you for being so civil - a relative rarity on Fark anymore.
2014-02-24 08:28:13 AM  
1 vote:

Cerebral Ballsy: noazark: Mr. Right:  when practicing for spelling bee competitions, kids are given the list of words.  In other words, THEY'RE TEACHING TO THE TEST!!!

While that may be true of classroom spelling bees, unless things have drastically changed during the last few decades -- and I grant that they very likely could have -- at the county, regional, and state levels, this is not the case ... I was never given a list of words in advance.  My study and preparation for those contests basically consisted of reading the dictionary, cover-to-cover.

Where are you from? The words my district used didn't appear in any dictionary I had access to at home. Many of the words were of foreign origin and very rarely ever used. I had never heard of about 90% of the words on our list. We used British spellings.

I lost out in the final round with the word  camoflage.  The list used by the spelling bee included both the English and American spellings of the words.  I spelled it  camouflage.  28 years later, I'm still bitter.
2014-02-24 05:53:29 AM  
1 vote:

TomD9938: A bilingual spelling bee?

Not necessarily, English has the tendency to mug other languages in dark alleys for spare diction.  It's very possible that the word was orginally french, and just appropriated.  Something like 30% of English words were originally French ones.  This was probably just 'obtained' a bit sooner, or it's a rarely used word that hasn't been updated in ages.
2014-02-24 05:30:02 AM  
1 vote:

Both of them missed what Kush said was the hardest word: a "French word; I have no idea how to pronounce it. It was a long word."

A bilingual spelling bee?
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