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2014-02-24 10:12:31 AM  
oh and in my 5th grade spelling bee I spelled vacuum.  I spelled it correctly (see previous sentence) and they called me on it anyway.

started a long line of anti authority acts from me.
 
2014-02-24 10:31:16 AM  

Semantic Warrior: Resident Muslim: Words that still stump me:
Necessary
Diahhrea (autocorrect can't help me because I'm not even close).
Can't remember which one, but always mess up the e before i or i before e ones.

I before E except after C, when sounding like A the neighbors may sway.........
Isn't that weird?


And on weekends and holidays and all throughout may...
 
2014-02-24 11:07:40 AM  

Mell of a Hess: TomD9938: FTA :

Both of them missed what Kush said was the hardest word: a "French word; I have no idea how to pronounce it. It was a long word."

A bilingual spelling bee?


What a bilingual bee might look like.


I love how he pronounces "Nasonex"


I think you mean "bisexual" bee, right?
 
2014-02-24 11:08:53 AM  
Did they include the word, "beagle"?
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2014-02-24 11:23:14 AM  

SeaMan Stainz: I've always wondered what the point of spelling bees are.

Is there any real world application to knowing how to spell thousands of random words? Do the contestants have better memory later in life? Dont they just forget how to spell most of the words in a few weeks?

Or is this just an attempt by parrents and teachers to keep the students virgins as long as possible?



Oh...I don't know. Maybe you're right. No one is really judged on spelling or grammar in the "real world". Kids should just stick to uniformed contact sports.
 
2014-02-24 11:25:53 AM  

Fermented Yak Juice: Mell of a Hess: TomD9938: FTA :

Both of them missed what Kush said was the hardest word: a "French word; I have no idea how to pronounce it. It was a long word."

A bilingual spelling bee?


What a bilingual bee might look like.


I love how he pronounces "Nasonex"

I think you mean "bisexual" bee, right?


NTTAWWT
 
2014-02-24 11:49:21 AM  

lecavalier: "The contest will resume March 8 at an undetermined library site. "

I don't know why but I find that sentence to be extremely amusing.


Must be the Bookmobile.
 
2014-02-24 11:51:25 AM  

eajc4f: Oh...I don't know. Maybe you're right. No one is really judged on spelling or grammar in the "real world". Kids should just stick to uniformed contact sports.


If they're lucky, they'll get to play for the Chicago Beers.
 
2014-02-24 12:00:08 PM  

dbrunker: Did they include the word, "beagle"?


I kept hearing "b-e-e-g-l-e" in my head reading the thread but couldn't think of how to throw it in.
 
2014-02-24 01:21:01 PM  
Have them spell in Klingon.
 
2014-02-24 02:20:25 PM  

Mr. Right: WhoGAS: Wait, we're complaining that the spelling bee couldn't stump some kids?

Like, we've educated kids so well?

This is a bad thing?

While I think that two kids running the list is a great thing, when practicing for spelling bee competitions, kids are given the list of words.  In other words, THEY'RE TEACHING TO THE TEST!!!  So it that now a good thing?


So kids learning study habits, definitions, memorization and some competitive skillsets is bad?

I'm sorry, it may not be the end-all-be-all of education but it's something more than nothing.
 
2014-02-24 03:21:48 PM  

Resident Muslim: Diahhrea


Diarrhea, TWO R's not two H's.
 
2014-02-24 03:25:56 PM  

WhoGAS: So kids learning study habits, definitions, memorization and some competitive skillsets is bad?

I'm sorry, it may not be the end-all-be-all of education but it's something more than nothing.


I actually think it's a very good thing.  I was being sarcastic, referring to the hoardes who decry any kind of standardized testing on the basis that teachers "teach to the test" instead of actually educating kids.  I believe that if the test is a good one, teaching to it is the way to go.  Think bar exam, CPA exam, engineer's licensing, architect's licensing, etc.  Those are tests that have been demonstrated to determine the qualifications of their various professions and there are schools, books, and study guides designed to help pass those tests.

I'm not sure there is a great job market for professional spellers but the disciplines you've pointed out that those students learn during their competition will be of value for the rest of their lives.
 
2014-02-24 06:33:19 PM  

Mr. Right: WhoGAS: So kids learning study habits, definitions, memorization and some competitive skillsets is bad?

I'm sorry, it may not be the end-all-be-all of education but it's something more than nothing.

I actually think it's a very good thing.  I was being sarcastic, referring to the hoardes who decry any kind of standardized testing on the basis that teachers "teach to the test" instead of actually educating kids.  I believe that if the test is a good one, teaching to it is the way to go.  Think bar exam, CPA exam, engineer's licensing, architect's licensing, etc.  Those are tests that have been demonstrated to determine the qualifications of their various professions and there are schools, books, and study guides designed to help pass those tests.

I'm not sure there is a great job market for professional spellers but the disciplines you've pointed out that those students learn during their competition will be of value for the rest of their lives.


Ah.  I miss sarcasm a lot.  My apologies.
 
2014-02-24 07:28:49 PM  
Ovaltine. Be sure to drink yours.
 
2014-02-24 08:01:59 PM  

WhoGAS: Ah. I miss sarcasm a lot. My apologies.


No apology necessary.  I should apologize for taking off on your eminently sensible comment.  But I have read enough threads on Fark and put up with enough discussions with supposed education professionals about the evils of standardized tests, teaching to the test, rote memorization, and how terrible it is to try to instill self-discipline - the great creativity killer - that my cynicism kicks in and I go for the sarcasm.

I am a fan of correct spelling, punctuation, and grammar.  I did my first gig as an Adjunct Professor in an Operations Management Course back in the late 70s.  Did that off and on until a couple years ago.  Whenever students turned in a research paper or answered an essay question on an exam, I added or deducted points for grammar and spelling.  Oh, the outrage!  So I took to making a note of my standards for writing term papers and essays on the course syllabus.  I am still incredulous that juniors and seniors in college had never heard of Kate Turabian, let alone did not have a well-worn copy of her style book.  I was assured that, as business majors, they weren't going to be judged on spelling and grammar!  I probably don't need to tell you that grammar and spelling standards did not improve during my 30 years of part-time teaching.  In spite of being labelled as an anachronistic pedant - one of  the nicer ways it was put - I stuck to my guns and if you turned in a term paper that was absolutely brilliant in theory and your understanding of the material but riddled with grammatical errors or misspellings, you were going to be lucky to walk out of there with a C.  In my full time jobs in industry or consulting I frequently criticized people for the poor communication skills that are attendant to lousy grammar and spelling.  If a person cannot communicate effectively, he can never lead or even add to the discussion.

Enough of the soapbox and I am desirous of a refill in my Scotch glass.

Thank you for being so civil - a relative rarity on Fark anymore.
 
2014-02-25 12:01:05 AM  

Mr. Right: I believe that if the test is a good one, teaching to it is the way to go.


I know I've gotten odd looks when people complain about the teachers teaching for the various tests students have to take today and my response is 'then fix the test!'.

The amount of testing some kids have to undergo is a separate issue.  I actually had one nut assume that we'd have to have a testing day every month, he didn't like it when I suggested that one a year would be more like it.  Maybe two for transfer students(incoming to get a baseline, then end of year to assess).  Use the results, compensated for by various demographics*

*Like an honors class should probably be graded differently than a remedial class, and there should probably be a point at which you stop bothering to test students - probably when they're so bad you stop bothering with a 'grade level' system.  There's an even bigger problem with achievement levels depending on ethnic group, but I have no real clue as to how to fix that.  I think a good deal of the problem is cultural, and that's sticky to fix.
 
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