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(Graham Leader)   Texas police chief was a rising star until he tried to sell off some of that sweet, sweet military surplus hardware   (grahamleader.com) divider line 20
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2014-02-23 08:13:38 AM  
He wasn't a rising star, he worked in Rising Star.

/if "that's the joke" it sucked.
 
2014-02-23 08:22:16 AM  
Dumbass should have used ebay.
 
2014-02-23 08:25:25 AM  
Are there others involved in this scheme or is this rising star in Rising Star the Lone Star?
 
2014-02-23 08:26:20 AM  
The machine gun is an m14 and it is entirely possible it was not known that it was a full auto.  I cannot imagine him being that stupid.

Kelcy is expected to surrender in response to a summons and to make an initial court appearance later this month. Federal records do not indicate an attorney for him.

Would someone who isn't LEO get away with this?
 
2014-02-23 08:29:29 AM  
TRW M-14 machine gun? The M2 is a machine gun, the M14 is a select fire, gas-operated rifle.
 
2014-02-23 08:32:12 AM  
Before I get corrected, these are vietnam era rifles that were originally full auto and later could have been remilled for semi-auto, but the ATF has weird rules on these remilled semi-auto rifles.  Anybody who can explain more would be appreciated.

http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1593026
 
2014-02-23 08:33:44 AM  
We can't let the public get ahold of this stuff, I mean have you seen Congressional approval rates?!
 
2014-02-23 08:38:09 AM  

Frothy Panties: TRW M-14 machine gun? The M2 is a machine gun, the M14 is a select fire, gas-operated rifle.




As I understand it, anything capable of firing more than one bullet per trigger pull is considered a 'machinegun' for the purposes of law.
 
2014-02-23 08:57:39 AM  
I'm sure the officers that work under him, are all fine, upstanding, honest men.

// and I'm sure monkeys will fly outta their asses too.
 
2014-02-23 09:44:35 AM  
1) Lubbock and it's nearby towns are NOT Central Texas. Try "West" Texas. 2) M-14's were originally select fire, but they proved to be very ineffective in full auto due to the recoil of the 7.62. Many were changed to semi-auto only, though I 'm sure some survived as select-fire in storage. If this guy sold one of those, he is farked very badly. Good. Military surplus belongs in storage, sold to Allies, or scrapped. Not in the hands of country bumpkin LEO's.
 
2014-02-23 10:30:32 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Would someone who isn't LEO get away with this?


Senators, House Members, other judges, uber wealthy.  You know, the usual.
 
2014-02-23 11:38:09 AM  
Do they have any rv's?

www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-02-23 11:46:02 AM  

FlippityFlap: 1) Lubbock and it's nearby towns are NOT Central Texas. Try "West" Texas. 2) M-14's were originally select fire, but they proved to be very ineffective in full auto due to the recoil of the 7.62. Many were changed to semi-auto only, though I 'm sure some survived as select-fire in storage. If this guy sold one of those, he is farked very badly. Good. Military surplus belongs in storage, sold to Allies, or scrapped. Not in the hands of country bumpkin LEO's.


FTFA: "Kelcy, 41, served as chief in Rising Star, about 50 miles southeast of Abilene"

So; 50 miles SE of Abilene is definitely "Central" Texas.
 
2014-02-23 12:50:21 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Before I get corrected, these are vietnam era rifles that were originally full auto and later could have been remilled for semi-auto, but the ATF has weird rules on these remilled semi-auto rifles.  Anybody who can explain more would be appreciated.

http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1593026


If the receiver was originally registered as a NFA item, it is forever a NFA item until demilled per spec. The only way to make it legal is to drop in a new non-NFA receiver and replace the select fire parts of the internals to the point where it cannot be readily converted. You will see stories about M2 Carbines rebuilt into M1 Carbines, which are still NFA items and have to be demilled. That said, illegal transfer of a NFA item is really really bad and that alone should put this guy away for at least 5 years.
 
2014-02-23 01:35:09 PM  

EvilEgg: He wasn't a rising star, he worked in Rising Star.

/if "that's the joke" it sucked.


Yes, but with mods so busy counting to potato, a pun may be the only way to launch nuggets like this to the undying glory that is green.
 
2014-02-23 02:39:43 PM  
Damn why is no one selling that stuff around here? I want a DBAL so bad.
 
2014-02-23 03:07:23 PM  
Pressure is building for a lot of states to pass "Police De-Paramilitarization" laws.  Basically to disband all SWAT teams below county level, limit local police departments to state approved equipment, and prohibit them from directly getting money or equipment from the federal government.  Oddly enough, a lot of this is bipartisan.

Arizona is currently trying to pass a law that would prohibit the use of "non-4th amendment" information in criminal trials.  This would include NSA and other agency wiretapping, and warrantless searches.  The feds say such data is legitimate, but that doesn't mean that states should use it.  If it is inadmissible in court, it is worthless.
 
2014-02-23 04:50:22 PM  

ginkor: Pressure is building for a lot of states to pass "Police De-Paramilitarization" laws.  Basically to disband all SWAT teams below county level, limit local police departments to state approved equipment, and prohibit them from directly getting money or equipment from the federal government.  Oddly enough, a lot of this is bipartisan.



Thank God.  It's getting out of hand, when every podunk bumfark town police department thinks they need to be able to fight off an invasion of turbaned terrorists.  I know it feeds their hard-on for power, but this stuff was never meant for civil use, it was meant for invading countries and blowing stuff up.  If the cops need full auto weapons and armored cars on a regular basis, then something is really wrong with us all.

Let the military be military and the cops be police.  Period.
 
2014-02-23 10:32:13 PM  
I love how we've fallen to quibbling about whether the one firearm explicitly mentioned in the article is full auto, semi auto, or refitted for full or semi auto, conveniently skipping the fact that the Department of Defense gave at least $4 million of military surplus equipment to civilian cops, just in Central Texas. The 1033 program has given billions of dollars of such equipment to cops across the country, gratis, since the early 90's.

Hasn't anybody wondered where 30+ years of military-grade equipment redistribution has gone? There are civilian armories packed full of military equipment. For example, Georgia has more than $200 million in military equipment alone. It's amazing just what's gone out to folks - the 1033 program has essentially turned cops into domestic military troops, rivaling the National Guard.

Why? Ask yourselves that. Why? There isn't a riot on the planet that justifies multiple grenade launchers and armored personnel carriers for a county police department, no matter how many claims of "we're just using them for bean bags and to protect SWAT cops" go out. We're not talking just refitted M14s and M16s here. Grenade launchers, mortars, armored trucks, armored personnel carriers - this is the type of equipment you'd use for dealing with large numbers of folks armed with small arms, non-military body armor, and no armored support.

In other words, civilians.
 
2014-02-24 01:05:31 AM  
He's been arrested?  That sounds like he neglected to give someone their cut.
 
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