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2014-02-23 07:12:09 PM  
Wow, didn't think Fark would have a thread for TD.  Great to see.
The show makes me pay attention.  No fiddling with phone or laptop during the show.
Cat's get no attention.  So many subtle things...
 
2014-02-23 07:16:08 PM  
Are we going to post in this thread after the show (of course *AFTER* since one must keep one's eyes on the screen when the show is on) or are we going to get a new thread??
 
2014-02-23 07:17:14 PM  

Hoban Washburne: silvervial: :D

http://www.somethingawful.com/news/true-detective-philosophy/

I haven't read something awful in a long time, but that was pretty damn funny.


:D Yeah, it was one of the few tangentially related TD thingies to actually make me laugh.
 
2014-02-23 09:02:42 PM  
In the "on the previous episodes" tonight, they pointed out that the tent revival minister came up under Tuttle.
 
2014-02-23 09:40:13 PM  
Tuttle's wearing a yellow tie.
 
2014-02-23 10:01:24 PM  
I gotta wait a week for this beer?

Rust definitely knows what's up. Now he's going to try to convince Marty.

Maggie is a bad liar and the detectives know it.
 
2014-02-23 10:07:57 PM  

JerseyTim: I gotta wait a week for this beer?

Rust definitely knows what's up. Now he's going to try to convince Marty.

Maggie is a bad liar and the detectives know it.


That was the most uncomfortable sex scene I've seen in my life, and I'm including things I watched in movies with my parents when I was younger.

Holy shiat, though, Tuttle and Cohle eyefarking each other in open combat was something else.
 
2014-02-23 10:15:14 PM  
I wonder if Cohle not going with the (pretty altar boy stereotype but a bit older) "records clerk" to look at what files Tuttle had, saying that he'd check them out another time, was just acknowledging that there would not be anything useful or evidentiary in the records anyway. Because he had to know he wasn't going to get another chance, right?

I like how Cohle paid for his dalliance with Maggie by letting himself get beat on a bit by Marty. Odd that he gave in to Maggie in the first place, odd that he didn't know he was simply a revenge fark and let himself be used that way. Guess he really needed it, poor guy.

Have to watch the episode again, of course, on the West Coast feed in HD.
 
2014-02-23 10:15:31 PM  

vygramul: In the "on the previous episodes" tonight, they pointed out that the tent revival minister came up under Tuttle.


And then he opened an old mystical tome that revealed the truth to him.
He then quit the ministry and started drinking.
 
2014-02-23 10:16:21 PM  
"Thank you:  I'm sorry."

*snort*
 
2014-02-23 10:22:53 PM  

silvervial: I wonder if Cohle not going with the (pretty altar boy stereotype but a bit older) "records clerk" to look at what files Tuttle had, saying that he'd check them out another time, was just acknowledging that there would not be anything useful or evidentiary in the records anyway. Because he had to know he wasn't going to get another chance, right?

I like how Cohle paid for his dalliance with Maggie by letting himself get beat on a bit by Marty. Odd that he gave in to Maggie in the first place, odd that he didn't know he was simply a revenge fark and let himself be used that way. Guess he really needed it, poor guy.

Have to watch the episode again, of course, on the West Coast feed in HD.


He HAD been drinking.
 
2014-02-23 10:30:57 PM  

vygramul: silvervial: I wonder if Cohle not going with the (pretty altar boy stereotype but a bit older) "records clerk" to look at what files Tuttle had, saying that he'd check them out another time, was just acknowledging that there would not be anything useful or evidentiary in the records anyway. Because he had to know he wasn't going to get another chance, right?

I like how Cohle paid for his dalliance with Maggie by letting himself get beat on a bit by Marty. Odd that he gave in to Maggie in the first place, odd that he didn't know he was simply a revenge fark and let himself be used that way. Guess he really needed it, poor guy.

Have to watch the episode again, of course, on the West Coast feed in HD.

He HAD been drinking.


That's true, maybe that's the only reason he did, but I thought I saw a look in his eye over Maggie's shoulder, like maybe it was something more to him. But then she confirmed her motive and that's when he shouted her out of his house...

I do love the confirmation of a lot of things that had only been speculation up to this point. As for next week, I think the thing at the end of the preview where Marty cries out is him seeing pictures of what's been happening to Audrey...just my opinion of course. Gotta start the next round of speculation, even though you and I are the only two people in this thread :D
 
2014-02-23 10:32:10 PM  

vygramul: silvervial: I wonder if Cohle not going with the (pretty altar boy stereotype but a bit older) "records clerk" to look at what files Tuttle had, saying that he'd check them out another time, was just acknowledging that there would not be anything useful or evidentiary in the records anyway. Because he had to know he wasn't going to get another chance, right?

I like how Cohle paid for his dalliance with Maggie by letting himself get beat on a bit by Marty. Odd that he gave in to Maggie in the first place, odd that he didn't know he was simply a revenge fark and let himself be used that way. Guess he really needed it, poor guy.

Have to watch the episode again, of course, on the West Coast feed in HD.

He HAD been drinking.


Might have been why he was a two pump chump. Poor guy could've used a little pleasure.

Thought it was a bit of a filler episode but HBO series usually have one mild episode before they blow you away with the finale.

We need an after discussion thread but I suck at writing headlines so I've got about as much of a chance greening one as Cohle does cracking a smile.
 
2014-02-23 10:36:39 PM  

silvervial: I do love the confirmation of a lot of things that had only been speculation up to this point. As for next week, I think the thing at the end of the preview where Marty cries out is him seeing pictures of what's been happening to Audrey...just my opinion of course. Gotta start the next round of speculation, even though you and I are the only two people in this thread :D


If it's Audrey, it's going to get interesting.

Part of me wonders if Cohle will set up Marty to murder the killers in such a way as Marty gets arrested.
 
2014-02-23 10:39:48 PM  
I know it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but would those cops just let Rusty drive away in his truck after drinking a flask + 6 beers? That THEY had procured for him?
 
2014-02-23 10:41:35 PM  

wankorama: I know it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but would those cops just let Rusty drive away in his truck after drinking a flask + 6 beers? That THEY had procured for him?


Probably not.
 
2014-02-23 10:55:23 PM  

alwaysjaded: We need an after discussion thread but I suck at writing headlines so I've got about as much of a chance greening one as Cohle does cracking a smile.


That's your headline.
 
2014-02-23 11:10:37 PM  
Does anyone know... did The Walking Dead reintroduce us to some familiar faces tonight? And, perchance, were they were attacked by... ZOMBIES???
 
2014-02-23 11:44:47 PM  

DamnYankees: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Where are you watching them?  HBO doesn't seem to airing reruns.
 HBO Go.


That. I only just realized that we still had HBO today - the wife mentioned that she's been catching up on Girls - and I've spent four hours watching True Detective. After the first ep, I was like "yeah, I'm gonna watch the hell out of this."

/They gave us a free month, which apparently was two months.
 
2014-02-23 11:45:20 PM  

OooShiny: alwaysjaded: We need an after discussion thread but I suck at writing headlines so I've got about as much of a chance greening one as Cohle does cracking a smile.

That's your headline.


Hmmm. Let's see....

Will the Yellow King finally be revealed? Will Hart have to do more laundry? Will Cohle do his Farker impression when simply talking to a woman sends her into hysterical shrieks? Find out on tonight's True Detective thread.

Meh, needs work.
 
2014-02-23 11:48:52 PM  

wankorama: I know it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but would those cops just let Rusty drive away in his truck after drinking a flask + 6 beers? That THEY had procured for him?


Did we see this happen? I might've missed it while paying attention to other things.
 
2014-02-23 11:59:59 PM  

robertus: DamnYankees: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Where are you watching them?  HBO doesn't seem to airing reruns.
 HBO Go.

That. I only just realized that we still had HBO today - the wife mentioned that she's been catching up on Girls - and I've spent four hours watching True Detective. After the first ep, I was like "yeah, I'm gonna watch the hell out of this."

/They gave us a free month, which apparently was two months.


HBO gives three months at a time.
 
2014-02-24 01:15:00 AM  

Zulu_as_Kono: wankorama: I know it's a minor point in the grand scheme of things, but would those cops just let Rusty drive away in his truck after drinking a flask + 6 beers? That THEY had procured for him?

Did we see this happen? I might've missed it while paying attention to other things.


I was thinking at the end when he drives up behind Hart, but Hart's interview would have been some time after anyway.
 
2014-02-24 03:21:36 AM  
I'd argue that lingering shot on Cohle's busted taillight shows he's been trolling for cops.
 
2014-02-24 04:35:29 AM  

Confabulat: I'd argue that lingering shot on Cohle's busted taillight shows he's been trolling for cops.


Or it's own personal reminder of Marty, given it was Marty's head that busted it out in their parking lot fight.
 
2014-02-24 04:38:26 AM  

lawboy87: Confabulat: I'd argue that lingering shot on Cohle's busted taillight shows he's been trolling for cops.

Or it's own personal reminder of Marty, given it was Marty's head that busted it out in their parking lot fight.


Maybe Cohle is waiting for Marty to pay for the damages to the taillight. Still.
 
2014-02-24 04:39:41 AM  
Someone mentioned this was a slower episode, but we DID hear about someone with scars involved, and someone else above said the lawnmower man was scarred.  I'll have to rewatch to confirm
 
2014-02-24 04:51:50 AM  

RoyHobbs22: aiiee: ItchyMcDoogle: I think all signs lead to Hart. Even if he is not in on it there is someone in his inner circle who is ( Wife and/or Stepfather). I think when we find out why his oldest Daughter has been messed up in the head up since the get go we will find out who is the Yellow King. I think Harts wife knows more then she lets on.

I don't think Rust has anything to do with it and is just trying to find out what the heck is going on and who the killers are. But then agian Rust is majorly farked up( Hallucinations, Heavy Drug Use when undercover and pill popper in the early episodes, Very farked up former home life and work life when he worked narco),. Id be really surprised if it turns out Rust had anything to do with it. But still the guy has deep issues.

Im both bummed that there are only 3 episodes left but I want to see them dammit. But I agree its nice to have a week to chew on the episodes since they give you so much to think on

Great Show I hope it finishes off great that has me the most worried is how it will end

Holy crap, I forgot all about the daughter's Barbie/Ken dolls and the drawings.   That ties in with her behavior as a teen. She was raped as a child but somehow survived and didn't tell anyone about it, because it was Marty, her Dad, who she loved, who turned her over to the rapists.

No farking way.

Grandpa maybe?  I'm going to go back and watch the lake house scene.


The problem with it not being Marty is he's the only adult who sees the Barbie see and he just kind of shakes his head and walks away. When he addressed the pictures she drew at school it was at his wife's urging and she was aggravated because he was more interested in watching the game. As a cop -- even a 'murder cop' -- one would think he would jump in these as clues that something may have happened to his daughter.
 
2014-02-24 05:38:09 AM  

Qaiwolf: Someone mentioned this was a slower episode, but we DID hear about someone with scars involved, and someone else above said the lawnmower man was scarred.  I'll have to rewatch to confirm


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2014-02-24 05:39:26 AM  

lawboy87: Confabulat: I'd argue that lingering shot on Cohle's busted taillight shows he's been trolling for cops.

Or it's own personal reminder of Marty, given it was Marty's head that busted it out in their parking lot fight.


But he's a cop, and he's a damn good one when he wants to be, and what better way to get pulled over in a rural highway in Louisiana than that? (oh yeah I know I'm not the only one with experience)
 
2014-02-24 06:05:36 AM  
This episode lost me a bit.  It had none of the dread, and relatively little of the tension, of the past episodes, except for two scenes.  It felt like they were tying up a bunch of loose ends, but I'm not sure it was necessary to waste the whole episode on it.  The whole Beth storyline?  The only way that ends up being worthwhile is if she's a plant.  I bet it's her on the screen in the preview of 7 (the daughter might be too obvious).  Then again, a lot that happened in this episode was a bit too obvious...

Hope they get 7 back on track.
 
2014-02-24 06:52:03 AM  

juvandy: This episode lost me a bit.  It had none of the dread, and relatively little of the tension, of the past episodes, except for two scenes.  It felt like they were tying up a bunch of loose ends, but I'm not sure it was necessary to waste the whole episode on it.  The whole Beth storyline?  The only way that ends up being worthwhile is if she's a plant.  I bet it's her on the screen in the preview of 7 (the daughter might be too obvious).  Then again, a lot that happened in this episode was a bit too obvious...

Hope they get 7 back on track.


Yep, it was just a regular police show tonight. I hope that shuts up all the dimwitted fanboys who think Cthultu is going to bust out of his arctic slumber or something.
 
2014-02-24 06:54:52 AM  
I hope there's no big twist. I hope there's no dumb cosmic horror surprise at the end. That shiat is for internet fanboys.

It's a solid show grounded in reality with some pretty cool literary references that sent dipshiat internet fanboys into wild speculation. But that's what it is.

Can you imagine how sucky this show would be if it actually DID end up cosmic horror?

The Yellow King is about insanity, not about slumbering ancient cruel gods.
 
2014-02-24 07:43:05 AM  

Confabulat: I hope there's no big twist. I hope there's no dumb cosmic horror surprise at the end. That shiat is for internet fanboys.

It's a solid show grounded in reality with some pretty cool literary references that sent dipshiat internet fanboys into wild speculation. But that's what it is.

Can you imagine how sucky this show would be if it actually DID end up cosmic horror?

The Yellow King is about insanity, not about slumbering ancient cruel gods.


I didn't think anyone was hoping Cthulhu would be the bad guy at the end. Just a cult-like conspiracy. It's not like we hope traditional cult shows end up with Jesus popping out of a cake with fake tits or something.
 
2014-02-24 08:02:51 AM  

vygramul: I didn't think anyone was hoping Cthulhu would be the bad guy at the end. Just a cult-like conspiracy. It's not like we hope traditional cult shows end up with Jesus popping out of a cake with fake tits or something.


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2014-02-24 08:19:00 AM  
Well I do find it curious that everyone seems to have forgotten the very first scene of the series was two men (I'd assume Woody and Mcconaggggeeghy) crippled and fighting their way across an endless landscape of a fire-lit swamp, which is some scary stuff.

I can only assume that's how the opening scene of the finale goes, but weird no one ever mentions it.
 
2014-02-24 08:40:33 AM  
It's just a really, really good show. I'm not going to waste energy  trying to out think it, I'm just going to let it take me on the ride.
 
2014-02-24 08:55:21 AM  

juvandy: This episode lost me a bit.  It had none of the dread, and relatively little of the tension, of the past episodes, except for two scenes.  It felt like they were tying up a bunch of loose ends, but I'm not sure it was necessary to waste the whole episode on it.  The whole Beth storyline?  The only way that ends up being worthwhile is if she's a plant.  I bet it's her on the screen in the preview of 7 (the daughter might be too obvious).  Then again, a lot that happened in this episode was a bit too obvious...

Hope they get 7 back on track.


agreed.  At least there was farking. Maggie is awful though. Her character, the actress, blah.
 
2014-02-24 09:19:36 AM  

RoyHobbs22: Maggie is awful though


Maggie is now a clear villain. Not that I ahem have ever been in such a situation, but ahem that's just evil bullshiat.
 
2014-02-24 09:34:31 AM  

Confabulat: Maggie is now a clear villain. Not that I ahem have ever been in such a situation, but ahem that's just evil bullshiat.


Meanwhile Hart is still just the tortured, complex anti-hero, right?
 
2014-02-24 09:51:31 AM  
We got a good ol' fashioned whore shaming going on here?
 
2014-02-24 09:56:03 AM  

vygramul: Confabulat: I hope there's no big twist. I hope there's no dumb cosmic horror surprise at the end. That shiat is for internet fanboys.

It's a solid show grounded in reality with some pretty cool literary references that sent dipshiat internet fanboys into wild speculation. But that's what it is.

Can you imagine how sucky this show would be if it actually DID end up cosmic horror?

The Yellow King is about insanity, not about slumbering ancient cruel gods.

I didn't think anyone was hoping Cthulhu would be the bad guy at the end. Just a cult-like conspiracy. It's not like we hope traditional cult shows end up with Jesus popping out of a cake with fake tits or something.


Well I didn't until now.

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2014-02-24 09:56:55 AM  
Hart is a scumbag and deserving of everything bad that happens to him in his relationships with women, period.

Maggie shouldn't have used Rust the way she did, but she not only wanted to make sure she hurt Hart as much as she possibly could, but also to make sure that Marty would see her as "tainted" and so would leave her and the girls alone, not try to win her back like the last time. I perfectly understand her motives, and she's right that the only way Hart could be stopped was to make him not want her, but she really shouldn't have involved Cohle.

I did like the way Cohle immediately went to Hart for punishment for his part of the "sin." He let Marty hit him to pay him back for his not being strong enough to resist Maggie. He expiated his guilt and he could move on.

I also liked Cohle's arrogance in the relationship with Hart now. He says "There's no you without me." After all, Cohle's the one who finds the clues, puts the cases together, and gets the confessions and Marty's career looks good. After a while, Cohle's just done with that, especially once he hears "Yellow King" again. Notice how he makes no attempt to bring Hart in to his extra-curricular work. He merely uses Hart as cover until Hart is too farked up to provide that cover anymore and then Maggie is the last straw. Cohle has to quit so he can pursue the case, but without the resources and authority of a cop, it's taken him years to get to where he is in 2012.

I'm interested in why Cohle's bringing Marty into the case now? Is it just to find out what Marty may have told the new detectives, or is it because he recently discovered the material on Audrey? Is showing Marty that stuff to motivate him? Or is it a bit of the "You should kill yourself" sadism he shows towards people he considers beneath consideration, like Lange (Yeah, you probably got Dora killed).

There's a couple of interpretations for Marty checking his gun at the end of the episode, too.

@Confabulat -- that scene right at the beginning of the pilot, I didn't take as being Hart and Cohle. It was the killer carrying Dora to the tree then setting a fire to draw attention. "This field wasn't due to be fired yet" is what caught the farmer's attention to discover Dora.
 
2014-02-24 10:06:15 AM  

silvervial: @Confabulat -- that scene right at the beginning of the pilot, I didn't take as being Hart and Cohle. It was the killer carrying Dora to the tree then setting a fire to draw attention. "This field wasn't due to be fired yet" is what caught the farmer's attention to discover Dora.


That is correct.
 
2014-02-24 11:06:34 AM  

MutantMotherMouse: The problem with it not being Marty is he's the only adult who sees the Barbie see and he just kind of shakes his head and walks away. When he addressed the pictures she drew at school it was at his wife's urging and she was aggravated because he was more interested in watching the game. As a cop -- even a 'murder cop' -- one would think he would jump in these as clues that something may have happened to his daughter.


Ooooooooooooohhhh!  (actually said that out loud whilst reading your post)
 
2014-02-24 11:08:52 AM  
Rust was mad because Maggie got him to show his demon, something that he works very hard to suppress.

Also, its very clear now that every character is an accomplished liar, so do we really know them at all?
 
2014-02-24 11:14:25 AM  

silvervial: "You should kill yourself"


Did Cohle really mean "You should kill yourself soon as you get a chance so you can't reveal what you know that might lead to ME before I'm ready"?
 
2014-02-24 11:19:35 AM  

OooShiny: silvervial: "You should kill yourself"

Did Cohle really mean "You should kill yourself soon as you get a chance so you can't reveal what you know that might lead to ME before I'm ready"?


and did he also make the call to the guy who killed himself in prison
 
2014-02-24 11:21:35 AM  
Come to the new thread to talk so we can get it greenlit!
 
2014-02-24 12:16:10 PM  

bongmiester: [fc01.deviantart.net image 515x723]

has cthulhu made a appearance in the show?  i've been looking


Only as far as the missing girl who got away described a green eared, spaghetti haired monster. After that it was never mentioned again.
 
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