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(Deadline)   Jimmy Fallon's first week as host of The Tonight Show had the program's highest ratings in twenty years. SUCK IT, LENO   (deadline.com ) divider line
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2014-02-22 07:19:00 PM  
My reading of this is that, generally speaking, people don't "like" Jay Leno that much. He's a good host and comedian, he's funny, but something about him is kind of grating.

Fallon is very likable, as was Johnny Carson. JF has a good chance of leaving the type of legacy Leno never could.
 
2014-02-22 07:21:16 PM  
[Disco Stu]

And if these trends continue...HEYYYYYY!

[/Disco Stu]
 
2014-02-22 07:31:14 PM  
Without the Olympics lead-in, the drop-off next week will be equally spectacular.
 
2014-02-22 07:33:24 PM  
Just wait until Leno's old audience finally realizes Sammy Davis Jr isn't one of The Roots
 
2014-02-22 07:36:41 PM  
People watch NASCAR hoping for a crash too. Doesn't make either of them entertaining though.
 
2014-02-22 07:54:43 PM  
He did far better than I thought. He's actually funny, and is very congenial.

There were a few bits that went wrong, Bradley cooper interview was nothing and you don't really do a comedy bit while interview ping kid scientist- which should have been the first segment.
 
2014-02-22 07:55:44 PM  

Triumph: Without the Olympics lead-in, the drop-off next week will be equally spectacular.


This. Fallon is incredibly boring.
 
2014-02-22 07:57:48 PM  
Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.
 
2014-02-22 08:31:59 PM  
Well...he's no Craig ferguson.
 
2014-02-22 08:35:40 PM  
Just came here to say that I hate Jay Leno and always have. So glad he's gone. What an unfunny thieving asshole.
 
2014-02-22 08:48:14 PM  
I got quite a few big belly laughs from Fallon's show this week. I don't really get the hate he gets.
 
2014-02-22 09:02:34 PM  
Fallon has the advantage that he actually seems to like his job, and his guests, or at least bothers to know who they are before they walk on stage.

I too like Craig Ferguson, and Conan for the same reasons. I'll never understand how Leno lasted this long.
 
2014-02-22 09:11:00 PM  

fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.


You could tell the joke wa coming when Conan was hosting by his shoulder twitching

You can tell the joke is coming with Fallon because he starts laughing FOR NO REASON.

/Not going to watch Fallon
//The second the ratings drop, he'll be outer faster than Conan was
 
2014-02-22 09:13:08 PM  

Aar1012: fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.

You could tell the joke wa coming when Conan was hosting by his shoulder twitching

You can tell the joke is coming with Fallon because he starts laughing FOR NO REASON.

/Not going to watch Fallon
//The second the ratings drop, he'll be outer faster than Conan was


Actually Fallon doesn't do that on the show.  Thank god, because it was annoying as hell.  Leno started doing it too as he got more senile.
 
2014-02-22 09:14:18 PM  
I'm ROFLing at the way the goons over at Drudge Report keep trying to convince anyone that Kimmel has lower ratings than Leno. I'm not sure if even the right wingers were falling for that.
 
2014-02-22 09:15:23 PM  

fatassbastard: My reading of this is that, generally speaking, people don't "like" Jay Leno that much. He's a good host and comedian, he's funny


Leno was never a good host. A great asskissser when there was some gop'er on like Mitt Romney, but not a good host.

Funny? Maybe on the BIZARRO WORLD!
 
2014-02-22 09:20:20 PM  

fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.


That's cause he hasn't said anything remotely funny in a least 10-15 years.

Kimmel FTW. (although I've been losing interest in his show the past few months too)
 
2014-02-22 09:27:08 PM  

Di Atribe: I got quite a few big belly laughs from Fallon's show this week. I don't really get the hate he gets.


He's really matured since SNL; he has found his niche. Even when he broke character and giggled on SNL he was funny, but after awhile you wondered if it was intentional. He and Tina Fey were one of the funniest Weekend Update duos ever. I think people just hate him because they think it's cool.
 
2014-02-22 09:27:50 PM  

fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.


You don't like Fallon because he laughs? On a comedy show? OK.
 
2014-02-22 09:29:15 PM  
I can't stand Kimmel because of the bits he does where he embarrasses people on the street by asking them a question he knows they can't possibly know the answer to because it's about an event that never happened and then makes fun of them for trying to pretend they knew the event in question.

Run on sentence but tl;dr I think he's a jerk.
 
2014-02-22 09:29:54 PM  

The English Major: He and Tina Fey were one of the funniest Weekend Update duos ever. I think people just hate him because they think it's cool.


It does seem like the reasons to dislike him are really nitpicky. When you have to try that hard to dislike someone....
 
2014-02-22 09:33:59 PM  
I'm sorry, but this is pretty special. I don't recall anything Jay Leno or his staff did that was remotely this awesome. And it's only Jimmy's first week.
 
2014-02-22 09:37:05 PM  

Di Atribe: fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.

You don't like Fallon because he laughs? On a comedy show? OK.


He laughs at EVERYTHING. It's OK once in a while when something is truly funny. If everything is funny then nothing is funny.
 
Boe [TotalFark]
2014-02-22 09:40:13 PM  

corq: Fallon has the advantage that he actually seems to like his job, and his guests, or at least bothers to know who they are before they walk on stage.

I too like Craig Ferguson, and Conan for the same reasons. I'll never understand how Leno lasted this long.


I think Fallon still can't believe his luck.

Leno has never escaped his reputation as a complete weasel for the way he got the Tonight Show gig in the first place.  And to that I say [grumpycatgood.jpg].

I haven't watched Letterman or Conan's show in any form in ages, but I will say I was impressed with his performance in "Conan O'Brien Can't Stop."

The only show I still watch from time to time is Ferguson's.  I don't know why, but he makes me laugh like none of the others can.
 
2014-02-22 09:43:52 PM  
I'd hope so when you get a ginourmous lead-in like the olympics.

Might fall back to reality when the usually pitiful 10pm shows return.

/NBC for once had a good idea using post-olympics to launch it.
 
2014-02-22 09:44:42 PM  

Boe: corq: Fallon has the advantage that he actually seems to like his job, and his guests, or at least bothers to know who they are before they walk on stage.

I too like Craig Ferguson, and Conan for the same reasons. I'll never understand how Leno lasted this long.

I think Fallon still can't believe his luck.

Leno has never escaped his reputation as a complete weasel for the way he got the Tonight Show gig in the first place.  And to that I say [grumpycatgood.jpg].

I haven't watched Letterman or Conan's show in any form in ages, but I will say I was impressed with his performance in "Conan O'Brien Can't Stop."

The only show I still watch from time to time is Ferguson's.  I don't know why, but he makes me laugh like none of the others can.


Puppets
 
2014-02-22 09:44:44 PM  
TV's Vinnie:
I'm ROFLing at the way the goons over at Drudge Report keep trying to convince anyone that Kimmel has lower ratings than Leno. I'm not sure if even the right wingers were falling for that.

I hate to break it to you, but Kimmel did have lower ratings than Leno. Only by 10-12%, but definitely lower. There were one or two nights that looked like he'd won, but that was a partial sample, and the lead went away when they got in all of the numbers.

Kimmel led in some demographics, like the 18-49 one (which is really, REALLY important to the networks), but you can't really argue seriously that he got higher ratings.

He's basically in a dead ratings heat with Letterman right now, and you know the Kimmel show doesn't cost anywhere near as much to produce. $$$$. He's also getting a lot of viral videos out there.

You might also note that the "right wingers" tend to like Kimmel more than a lot of lefties, because he's one of the few late-night guys who makes fun of both sides of the political aisle.
 
2014-02-22 09:45:38 PM  

fusillade762: Di Atribe: fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.

You don't like Fallon because he laughs? On a comedy show? OK.

He laughs at EVERYTHING. It's OK once in a while when something is truly funny. If everything is funny then nothing is funny.


I'm watching Friday night's episode right now and he is most certainly not laughing at everything. He's laughing at the jokes, which is normal. I'm not seeing any overzealous laughing, even though I can think of much worse offenses.
 
2014-02-22 09:45:53 PM  
Fallon is exactly what the Tonight Show needed, and I look forward to him being the host for the next several decades.

He's a fantastic entertainer and has his finger on the pop culture zeitgeist. He doesn't just talk about the culture, he's actively contributing to it. How many of his bits go viral? You don't see Leno or Letterman doing the history of rap, or the history of Mom dancing with Michelle Obama. No, you don't. That's the kind of stuff Carson would do back in the day. Carson's bits were classics. Leno never had that kind of juice. Conan was never better as a late night host, but he just wasn't the right fit for the Tonight Show. And I'm glad he's got his own gig, because he's great on basic cable.

Fallon is going to be an institution, and there's one important reason why. One critical fact that goes beyond his talent, his love of entertaining, and his endearing nature. His name starts with the letter "J." Jack, Johnny, Jay, Jimmy. You can't host the tonight show successfully without that initial. (Again, sorry Coco. The universe was against you.)
 
2014-02-22 09:46:44 PM  
Know what always cracks me up with Leno?  Yeah, nothing.  Fallon should bring Bill Hader aboard and just do interviews with celebrities as their doppleganging impersonations every night.
 
2014-02-22 09:47:49 PM  
He sucks.
 
2014-02-22 09:56:17 PM  
Just really glad he kept The Roots...

cdn04.cdn.justjared.com
 
2014-02-22 10:03:27 PM  

Di Atribe: fusillade762: Di Atribe: fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.

You don't like Fallon because he laughs? On a comedy show? OK.

He laughs at EVERYTHING. It's OK once in a while when something is truly funny. If everything is funny then nothing is funny.

I'm watching Friday night's episode right now and he is most certainly not laughing at everything. He's laughing at the jokes, which is normal. I'm not seeing any overzealous laughing, even though I can think of much worse offenses.


As someone said upthread he may have toned it down a bit. I have Friday's taped and I'll probably check it out tonight.

For the record Jon Stewart was doing the same thing for a while. This high-pitched tittering laughter that just sounded really fake. I love Stewart but that bugged the hell out of me.
 
2014-02-22 10:05:47 PM  

Ishkur: I'm sorry, but this is pretty special. I don't recall anything Jay Leno or his staff did that was remotely this awesome. And it's only Jimmy's first week.


That was pretty good.  Certainly funnier than anything I ever saw during Leno's umpteen years as host. Good link. TY.
 
2014-02-22 10:08:53 PM  

fusillade762: As someone said upthread he may have toned it down a bit. I have Friday's taped and I'll probably check it out tonight.


Yay! Give him a chance. I think he can give you some good laughs if you let him.
 
2014-02-22 10:14:23 PM  
Probably because now unlike 20 years ago, we had jobs that paid us more and gave us these things called "vacations", which didn't mean everyone was spending time in front of the TV.
 
2014-02-22 10:15:30 PM  

SubBass49: Just really glad he kept The Roots...

[cdn04.cdn.justjared.com image 850x568]


And the token white guy.
 
2014-02-22 10:32:33 PM  

cirby: TV's Vinnie:
I'm ROFLing at the way the goons over at Drudge Report keep trying to convince anyone that Kimmel has lower ratings than Leno. I'm not sure if even the right wingers were falling for that.

I hate to break it to you, but Kimmel did have lower ratings than Leno. Only by 10-12%, but definitely lower. There were one or two nights that looked like he'd won, but that was a partial sample, and the lead went away when they got in all of the numbers.

Kimmel led in some demographics, like the 18-49 one (which is really, REALLY important to the networks), but you can't really argue seriously that he got higher ratings.

He's basically in a dead ratings heat with Letterman right now, and you know the Kimmel show doesn't cost anywhere near as much to produce. $$$$. He's also getting a lot of viral videos out there.

You might also note that the "right wingers" tend to like Kimmel more than a lot of lefties, because he's one of the few late-night guys who makes fun of both sides of the political aisle.


That'll soon change when the types of guests Kimmel has on aren't worn-out oldies from the right wing set, like what Leno did a lot.
 
2014-02-22 11:02:10 PM  
Sounds like the same math they use for unemployment ratings....
 
2014-02-22 11:07:50 PM  
Peter David (I think it was) said it best:

When Jack Parr announced his retirement, we all thought that no one else could ever match, let alone surpass, Parr. Steve Allen proved us wrong.

When Steve Allen announced his retirement, we all thought that no one else could ever match, let alone surpass, Allen. Johnny Carson proved us wrong.

When Johnny Carson announced his retirement, we all thought that no one else could ever match, let alone surpass, Carson. Jay Leno proved us right.
 
2014-02-22 11:20:27 PM  
If Jay Leno comes back with a car show a la Top Gear, I'll gladly tune in.  The man knows his cars.
 
2014-02-22 11:21:26 PM  
K. Let's see what happens next month...

Though, without Jay trying to mess up his lead in, he'll probably do ok.
 
2014-02-22 11:25:03 PM  

fusillade762: Eh, I'll stick with Letterman. At least he doesn't cackle like a loon at every single nominally funny thing his guest says.


This. He almost ruined the famous SNL cow bell skit.
 
2014-02-22 11:26:50 PM  
Tiiiiiiiime is on my side, yes it is.

oh wait, FALLON
 
2014-02-22 11:29:31 PM  

Ishkur: I'm sorry, but this is pretty special. I don't recall anything Jay Leno or his staff did that was remotely this awesome. And it's only Jimmy's first week.


This is always good too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NO0rArJRR4">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=0NO0rArJRR4
 
2014-02-22 11:30:28 PM  
Okay I'm 36. I know absolutely no one my age or younger who watch any of these shows. I did until my twenties and then internet.
Is it just I am a loser, or it is it just the older gen that keeps the late night shows on the air?
 
2014-02-22 11:32:17 PM  
The new show sucks. When you peel away the star power, it's a bad imitation of Fallon's old show, which was OK.

This new writer's mess is mix of Fallon's old show, Saturday Night Live, and something appealing to the black demographic to get the readership up - after all, Leno and Carson where whitey's shows. that will Farrell sketch was complete, boring, bullshiat.

Of curse it'll have ratings now when the guest roster is stacked.

Give it three months.

The only reason it's on for me is filler til Ferguson comes on - they should have given him the job, and left Jimmy where he was.. If CBS was smart, they'd pull Craig's show up an hour when the Tonight Show starts to faceplant
 
2014-02-22 11:33:01 PM  

soporific: Fallon is exactly what the Tonight Show needed, and I look forward to him being the host for the next several decades.

He's a fantastic entertainer and has his finger on the pop culture zeitgeist. He doesn't just talk about the culture, he's actively contributing to it. How many of his bits go viral? You don't see Leno or Letterman doing the history of rap, or the history of Mom dancing with Michelle Obama. No, you don't. That's the kind of stuff Carson would do back in the day. Carson's bits were classics. Leno never had that kind of juice. Conan was never better as a late night host, but he just wasn't the right fit for the Tonight Show. And I'm glad he's got his own gig, because he's great on basic cable.

Fallon is going to be an institution, and there's one important reason why. One critical fact that goes beyond his talent, his love of entertaining, and his endearing nature. His name starts with the letter "J." Jack, Johnny, Jay, Jimmy. You can't host the tonight show successfully without that initial. (Again, sorry Coco. The universe was against you.)


Well, I guess we know Jimmy Fallon's fark handle now.
 
2014-02-22 11:35:03 PM  
readership?

LOL

viewership
 
2014-02-22 11:38:14 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Puppets


People watch Ferguson for those moments when Josh Thompson causes him to crack up.
 
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