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2014-02-22 12:51:28 PM  
You should be allowed to punch attention whores in the nuts and/or ovaries.
 
2014-02-22 12:51:43 PM  
I'm ok with that, but then again, I want food service workers to have health insurance and paid sick days just to limit disease vectoring. I'm sure some idiots are outraged by it though.
 
2014-02-22 12:52:23 PM  
Seems like that's a fairly simple way of not having to update menu prices.  A little douchey, but whatever...it's their choice.  If anything, it clearly shows how little the impact of the ACA really is.
 
2014-02-22 12:52:41 PM  
If I know that one store is giving their employees health insurance and another isn't, you better believe I'm going to the former.
 
2014-02-22 12:53:51 PM  
Speaking personally, I'm rather happy that people serving me food can get health care.
 
2014-02-22 12:54:03 PM  
Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots.
 
2014-02-22 12:54:45 PM  
As usual the comments are priceless artifacts of derp.
 
2014-02-22 12:55:15 PM  
Glenda Thomas, who visits Gator's Dockside on 103rd Street for the oysters, good service and nice people says it's a small price to pay.
"Do you know how hard their people work? Fifteen cents? And you sit there and you're enjoying yourself?" Thomas says. "I don't have a problem with that."
"We're trying to be transparent about what our costs are by not raising their costs," said Sandra Clark of Gator's Dockside. "(We're) asking for a penny per dollar to keep our full-time employees going."


Huh.... seems like everyone in that article is being quite reasonable about the entire thing. Did I wake up in an alternate universe or something?
 
2014-02-22 12:55:56 PM  

Summoner101: Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots.


But they're honest idiots, and that's nice.  It's a way better alternative than, say, raising all the entree prices by $1 and claiming its because of Obamacare.
 
2014-02-22 12:56:24 PM  

firefly212: I'm ok with that, but then again, I want food service workers to have health insurance and paid sick days just to limit disease vectoring. I'm sure some idiots are outraged by it though.


You can always scroll through the comments section if you're really hunting.

It's filled with people saying "I'd never pay this!  I get my health insurance at the place where I WORK!  Why should I pay to support these freeloading waitresses?"

Apparently they don't realize that the health insurance where they work is paid for by charging their own customers some extra percentage.
 
2014-02-22 12:58:59 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: If I know that one store is giving their employees health insurance and another isn't, you better believe I'm going to the former.


This. Especially when it comes to food preparation. I like knowing that the people making my food have health care and sick leave. There should be zero incentive for someone in the food service to come to work sick.
 
2014-02-22 12:59:19 PM  
"The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more."

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2014-02-22 01:01:35 PM  

Nuclear Monk: Seems like that's a fairly simple way of not having to update menu prices.  A little douchey, but whatever...it's their choice.  If anything, it clearly shows how little the impact of the ACA really is.


Because the prices of ingredients never fluctuates. . .  They're just being dipshiats.
 
2014-02-22 01:01:42 PM  
I'm ok with this.  I think it would be nice to exclude sales tax from these fees, providing the money is actually used for employee health care premiums.
 
2014-02-22 01:04:20 PM  
Have this totally backfire on the owner's intentions.

Everyone should thank this owner for being such a supporter for Obamacare that he would let all his customers know that he's only charging a tiny few extra pennies to help his workers healthcare, because he really isn't like all those other "job creators" who whine and fuss and do drama-whore antics to throw their temper tantrums.
 
2014-02-22 01:04:36 PM  
If this increase were to cover the costs of obamacare, then the increase would be a fixed price.  Sounds like someone wants to raise their profit margins and redirect the anger and increased prices so they don't look like the bad guy.
 
2014-02-22 01:04:39 PM  
The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more.
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I don't think that'll break anyone's bank.
 
2014-02-22 01:05:37 PM  
The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political --

And there's the lie.
 
2014-02-22 01:06:12 PM  
"The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political"

Really? So why don't they itemize the rest of their costs?
 
2014-02-22 01:07:00 PM  
They couldn't just increase their prices by 1% - no that would be to easy and less attention-whorey.
 
2014-02-22 01:08:04 PM  

jake3988: The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more.
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I don't think that'll break anyone's bank.


From the comments:

I would refuse to pay this fee. I have my own family to support.

If 15 cents will break you then why are you going out to eat?
 
2014-02-22 01:08:57 PM  

Fart_Machine: As usual the comments are priceless artifacts of derp.


I decided to go back and look at them after you mentioned it and goddammitsomuch! How do these cretins even know how to type out words with their hairy fists bashing all over the keyboard??
 
2014-02-22 01:09:01 PM  

Summoner101: Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots.


That would be fun.

A building maintenance fee, a parking lot fee, a cooking equipment fee, a furniture fee, a utility fee, a uniform fee, a menu fee, a plate/utensil/glass fee and a few more and then maybe you can get to the food.
 
2014-02-22 01:09:40 PM  
I've made a terrible mistake. I read the comments on the article. I think I'm dumber for having done so.
 
2014-02-22 01:09:58 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Glenda Thomas, who visits Gator's Dockside on 103rd Street for the oysters, good service and nice people says it's a small price to pay.
"Do you know how hard their people work? Fifteen cents? And you sit there and you're enjoying yourself?" Thomas says. "I don't have a problem with that."
"We're trying to be transparent about what our costs are by not raising their costs," said Sandra Clark of Gator's Dockside. "(We're) asking for a penny per dollar to keep our full-time employees going."

Huh.... seems like everyone in that article is being quite reasonable about the entire thing. Did I wake up in an alternate universe or something?


Don't worry. There will be plenty of outrage vented here before it's over.
 
2014-02-22 01:09:58 PM  

12349876: Summoner101: Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots.

That would be fun.

A building maintenance fee, a parking lot fee, a cooking equipment fee, a furniture fee, a utility fee, a uniform fee, a menu fee, a plate/utensil/glass fee and a few more and then maybe you can get to the food.


Hey! That's airline talk now!
 
2014-02-22 01:10:00 PM  
Well as long as the blessed job creators don't have to take a pay cut then I support whatever extra costs they pass on.
 
2014-02-22 01:11:58 PM  
Sensible story out Florida?

No hyperbole over Obamacare?

They're not screwing over the employees?

Did Cthulhu win a bet or something?
 
2014-02-22 01:12:31 PM  
The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political -- they aren't for or against the new federal health care changes -- they just want to follow the law and take care of their employees.

But yet none of the other costs are itemized on someone's bill, the owner of the company is a wimp and the reporter is too for not following up with a question about that.
 
2014-02-22 01:17:47 PM  
They interviewed the only reasonable people in Jacksonville apparently.
 
2014-02-22 01:18:00 PM  
When I lived in Virginia Beach, some places on Atlantic Avenue (the main drag) the waitress / server used to pay the owners fifty cents per customer. Then again, the servers were making a ton of money every night, and I'm sure they declared it all for tax reasons.
 
2014-02-22 01:18:19 PM  
The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political -- they aren't for or against the new federal health care changes -- they just want to follow the law and take care of their employees.

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If this were true, they would either eat whatever cost increase is involved or  silently raise prices to accommodate them - not add a specific surcharge and post signs all over their restaurant.
 
2014-02-22 01:18:38 PM  

jake3988: The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more.
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I don't think that'll break anyone's bank.


That's 15 cents the job creators can't use to create jobs, comrade.
 
2014-02-22 01:19:15 PM  
Personally, I'd be cool with mandating that businesses impacted by the affordable care act actually show, with math, the price increase for getting their employees healthcare for at least 2 years. I bet that would kill the complaining pretty damn quickly.

Hell, at my work (car dealership), I'd love to see "Due to making sure all salesmen, office staff, managers, parts agents, body work professionals, service professionals, and custodial crew are provided with adequate health insurance, all used car sales will have a surcharge of $X. Thank you for your patronage" on the signs and letterhead.
 
2014-02-22 01:20:07 PM  

Wyalt Derp: "The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political"

Really? So why don't they itemize the rest of their costs?


That would be great, wouldn't it?  How much the unprepared food really costs, the hourly wages of the kitchen and wait staff, utility and rent bills... and then the rest that the owner keeps for being a true job creator.
 
2014-02-22 01:20:51 PM  

jake3988: The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more.
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I don't think that'll break anyone's bank.


Honestly if that is all it will cost to give all his employees healthcare that is a farking fantastic deal. What I really dont understand why anyone would look at that and be outraged. It was like the Papa Myrphy guy saying that they would need to add like 30 cents to each pizza. So farking what. That is probably the heathiest and most positive thing to ever come out of eating thier crappy pizza.
 
2014-02-22 01:21:10 PM  

Nabb1: RoxtarRyan: Glenda Thomas, who visits Gator's Dockside on 103rd Street for the oysters, good service and nice people says it's a small price to pay.
"Do you know how hard their people work? Fifteen cents? And you sit there and you're enjoying yourself?" Thomas says. "I don't have a problem with that."
"We're trying to be transparent about what our costs are by not raising their costs," said Sandra Clark of Gator's Dockside. "(We're) asking for a penny per dollar to keep our full-time employees going."

Huh.... seems like everyone in that article is being quite reasonable about the entire thing. Did I wake up in an alternate universe or something?

Don't worry. There will be plenty of outrage vented here before it's over.


Good, because I don't know where I'm to find a black hole to have my Stargate interact with in order to get back to the reality where people freak out about nothing, mass ignorance is considered a positive trait, and politicians only care about lining their pockets.
 
2014-02-22 01:26:38 PM  
If a 1% increase in prices is all it took to get his employees insurance, the dude is already an asshole because he didn't provide it in the first place.
 
2014-02-22 01:28:21 PM  

cig-mkr: When I lived in Virginia Beach, some places on Atlantic Avenue (the main drag) the waitress / server used to pay the owners fifty cents per customer. Then again, the servers were making a ton of money every night, and I'm sure they declared it all for tax reasons.


I was not aware that federal labor laws do not apply in Virginia Beach. Interdasting.
 
2014-02-22 01:28:54 PM  
Lots of restaurants in San Francisco (where a law requiring restaurants to cover employee health insurance has been on the books for about 5 years now) got caught recently adding these surcharges but not actually spending the money on employee healthcare. I hope Florida's authorities are paying attention.

Oh wait, it's Florida.
 
2014-02-22 01:29:31 PM  
My first thought was, when was the last time they raised the price of any single item on the menu, even 50 cents? If they did in the last 5 years, then that would be more pricey than the 1% surcharge they are adding here.
 
2014-02-22 01:30:17 PM  

12349876: Summoner101: Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots.

That would be fun.

A building maintenance fee, a parking lot fee, a cooking equipment fee, a furniture fee, a utility fee, a uniform fee, a menu fee, a plate/utensil/glass fee and a few more and then maybe you can get to the food.


Perhaps a rat trap fee?
 
2014-02-22 01:31:32 PM  
I see that some of both the anti-healthcare and pro-healthcare people are in a dander over this. Could it be that this was a compromise between raising prices 1% and eating the cost?   A price increase of 1% looks pretty stupid on a menu: small drink goes from $1.25 to $1.26, etc.  On the other hand, eating that 1% cost could gaul the owners. So adding a separate line item keeps the aesthetics of the menu prices in place, implements the 1% increase, and may gives the restaurants some media exposure.
 
2014-02-22 01:33:02 PM  

clarksvegas: Sensible story out Florida?

No hyperbole over Obamacare?

They're not screwing over the employees?

Did Cthulhu win a bet or something?


As some have pointed out, it could be construed as attention whorey, but I care to look at it this way:

For the FAR RIGHT - Wow, such profit/job crushing costs!

For the FAR LEFT - But I thought it would all be free?

/sarcasm for both in case you cannot tell
//still political, but neither side should be able claim it as proof of their particular viewpoint
 
2014-02-22 01:41:19 PM  
"The owners of Gator's Dockside say this isn't political."

The owners of Gator's Dockside are liars.

The owners of Gator's Dockside could have increased prices by 1% to cover a slight increase in fixed costs.

The owners of Gator's Dockside didn't need to be the subject of a news story for this petty gesture.
 
2014-02-22 01:41:43 PM  

Fart_Machine: jake3988: The average meal here is $15, so that means most customers would pay about 15 cents more.
==========================

I don't think that'll break anyone's bank.

From the comments:

I would refuse to pay this fee. I have my own family to support.

If 15 cents will break you then why are you going out to eat?


guessing that person is a bad tipper as well
 
2014-02-22 01:41:54 PM  
The restaurant chain has 500 employees? That's what, ten locations? They're obviously on their last legs, financially. And prior to the ACA, they were're providing any health care at all? Where'd I put my teeny tiny violin? I mean, rub everyone's nose in the fact that you poor guys might have to cut into your profit margin a little to do the right thing for your employees. And dick your customers over while you're at it. By all means, be douchebags.

One more location where I emphatically will  not be eating.
 
2014-02-22 01:46:24 PM  

Karac: firefly212: I'm ok with that, but then again, I want food service workers to have health insurance and paid sick days just to limit disease vectoring. I'm sure some idiots are outraged by it though.

You can always scroll through the comments section if you're really hunting.

It's filled with people saying "I'd never pay this!  I get my health insurance at the place where I WORK!  Why should I pay to support these freeloading waitresses?"

Apparently they don't realize that the health insurance where they work is paid for by charging their own customers some extra percentage.


Of COURSE that's what they think. It costs THEM nothing (directly) and therefore springs, fully formed, from the mind of the Job Creator and trickles RIGHT down to them!
 
2014-02-22 01:47:33 PM  
Summoner101: Do they break out all their other costs in the bill? No? Then they're idiots Republicans.

Replaced with a synonym.
 
2014-02-22 01:49:26 PM  
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