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(Marine Corps Times)   Today's ignorant restaurant employee who assumes that only blind people have service dogs is brought to you by Channelview, Texas   (marinecorpstimes.com) divider line 24
    More: Dumbass, Channelview, Spring Texas, blind people, service dog, visual perceptions, Doberman  
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2014-02-22 08:48:00 AM  
i have a non-blind friend who has a service dog. she doesn't often bring him out with her, but he has a special ID tag and she carries a card stating that he's her official service animal. anyone starts to say anything about her having her dog around, she shows them the card, and that's the end of it. i gather from the article that the guy did not flash his service animal card.

/this story brought to you by Channelview, home of the positively true adventures of the alleged Texas cheerleader-murdering mom.
 
2014-02-22 08:55:30 AM  
Did they mention that the guy is a Marine, because I may have missed it.
 
2014-02-22 09:04:14 AM  
Well, I hope that manager dude's little steam release was worth it - it's going to cost him.
"No comment" indeed.
 
2014-02-22 09:10:25 AM  
Let's face it, wait staff aren't exactly projecting incredible amounts of self-awareness and world view.  Now if he'd walked into an Engineering firm on the other hand...
 
2014-02-22 09:18:21 AM  

Kyosuke: Did they mention that the guy is a Marine, because I may have missed it.


You're questioning an article in Marine Corps Times mentioning a guy was a Marine?
 
2014-02-22 09:40:29 AM  

the801: i have a non-blind friend who has a service dog. she doesn't often bring him out with her, but he has a special ID tag and she carries a card stating that he's her official service animal. anyone starts to say anything about her having her dog around, she shows them the card, and that's the end of it. i gather from the article that the guy did not flash his service animal card.

/this story brought to you by Channelview, home of the positively true adventures of the alleged Texas cheerleader-murdering mom.


I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability. Your friend may just be a polite person who doesn't want to make a scene, however.
 
2014-02-22 10:41:10 AM  
TFA was a two-alarm on the old BS detector.

Dude was discharged in 1994 and "just now" (his words) has developed anxieties? Okay, sure.

As for the "ignorant" restaurant employee: If the dog is in training, it's not considered a service animal unless an approved trainer is present; if it's not a service animal, it's a health code violation, even in Texas. (see §229.167 (p) 15 (A) (iii) -- p. 135 in the PDF)

I dunno, is this guy an "approved" (whatever that means) trainer? TFA says nothing one way or the other, but I'm betting he's not. If he's self-training the dog and has no background as a trainer of service animals, that's nice, but "I'm sorry, you'll have to leave" seems perfectly reasonable in this case.

I see this shiat every damn day in SF from entitled farks of all classes and colors and I am tired of people abusing the service animal concept and spoiling it for the people who actually need the help.

TL;DR: thanks for your service, dude; now GTFO until you understand the rules on service animals.
 
2014-02-22 10:41:11 AM  
everyone should have a service animal.
 
2014-02-22 10:42:45 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.


So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.
 
2014-02-22 10:44:46 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.

So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.


Especially the part where a business must take the owner at their word.  Hey I hear there's an elephant at a ren faire that needs a new line of work...
 
2014-02-22 11:09:13 AM  
LibertyHiller:

As for the "ignorant" restaurant employee: If the dog is in training, it's not considered a service animal unless an approved trainer is present; if it's not a service animal, it's a health code violation, even in Texas. (see §229.167 (p) 15 (A) (iii) -- p. 135 in the PDF)


This
 
2014-02-22 11:21:26 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.

So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.


Non snarky answer: Google says only dogs, small horses, and monkeys are allowed under the law (with monkeys being grandfathered in). It would lead to a lot of abuses, like getting a therapist to certify a pet as "helper" so it can come in restaurants or malls.

Snarky answer: I want helper prostitute. She keeps me calm and stays on her leash.
 
2014-02-22 11:55:35 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Google says only dogs, small horses, and monkeys are allowed under the law (with monkeys being grandfathered in).


I want to ride into a restaurant on a service horse.
 
2014-02-22 12:03:10 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.

So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.


Nice. I'm taking my Liger to dinner tonight!
 
2014-02-22 12:09:17 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.

So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.

Non snarky answer: Google says only dogs, small horses, and monkeys are allowed under the law (with monkeys being grandfathered in). It would lead to a lot of abuses, like getting a therapist to certify a pet as "helper" so it can come in restaurants or malls.

Snarky answer: I want helper prostitute. She keeps me calm and stays on her leash.


Yeah, I just had a look at it, essentially anyone can bring any dog more-or-less anywhere so long as they claim it's a service animal. There doesn't seem to be any legal way to challenge even an obviously false claim.

Among other things, that means you can force any hotel in the US to accept your dog and not even charge extra for it.
 
2014-02-22 03:12:34 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I thought the ADA didn't require people to carry identification for the service animal (other than applicable control devices), and also didn't allow places to ask for proof of disability.

So, effectively no animal can be excluded from a restaurant? Sounds ripe for some real-world trolling.

Non snarky answer: Google says only dogs, small horses, and monkeys are allowed under the law (with monkeys being grandfathered in). It would lead to a lot of abuses, like getting a therapist to certify a pet as "helper" so it can come in restaurants or malls.

Snarky answer: I want helper prostitute. She keeps me calm and stays on her leash.

Yeah, I just had a look at it, essentially anyone can bring any dog more-or-less anywhere so long as they claim it's a service animal. There doesn't seem to be any legal way to challenge even an obviously false claim.

Among other things, that means you can force any hotel in the US to accept your dog and not even charge extra for it.




That does not work with hookers, though.
 
2014-02-22 05:18:28 PM  
I assume that most of you on Fark.com have read the book "It's Not News, It's Fark"; that's how
you / I / we found about Fark.com.  In the book, it says that Florida was the state generating the
most oddball news about oddball people.  Well, since the book was published, I think Texas is
giving Florida a run for its money in the lunacy department.  (How else, to explain, Ted Cruz's
political career? Sorry, Texans.)
 
2014-02-22 05:20:01 PM  

soakitincider: everyone should have a service animal.


I do - my cat Goldie.  His service is to give me emotional comfort and support;
you can't ask for more from an animal.
 
2014-02-22 05:53:47 PM  

Li'l Robbie: I assume that most of you on Fark.com have read the book "It's Not News, It's Fark"; that's how
you / I / we found about Fark.com.  In the book, it says that Florida was the state generating the
most oddball news about oddball people.  Well, since the book was published, I think Texas is
giving Florida a run for its money in the lunacy department.  (How else, to explain, Ted Cruz's
political career? Sorry, Texans.)


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2014-02-22 09:44:08 PM  

Li'l Robbie: I assume that most of you on Fark.com have read the book "It's Not News, It's Fark"; that's how you / I / we found about Fark.com.


That might be how you noobs found Fark.com...

 
2014-02-23 12:37:21 AM  
The service dog exclusion has been abused all to hell and Congress needs to tighten up the ADA and FHA to put an end to this BS. Too many people are using it as an excuse to take Fido everywhere. When it comes down to it aren't pretty much all dogs who are kept as pets service animals.

Sorry Jarhead, you're not any more entitled to abuse the ADA act any more than some blue haired old lady dragging her yappy little Pomeranian into the grocery store. Unfortunately businesses are afraid of getting sued so they let the shiat go on.
 
2014-02-23 08:48:50 AM  
Part of the reason that service dogs are allowed in restaurants is that they have been trained and disciplined to the point where they can behave like perfect organic robots, never barking without cause, never chasing anything, never taking a crap without permission.  Service dogs in training, on the other hand, by definition have not yet reached this point.  Are service dogs in training necessarily allowed everywhere?  Yes, training these animals is a noble cause that we should all support.  But an incompletely trained dog could be an unreasonable burden on a restaurant.
 
2014-02-23 01:50:04 PM  
Y'know, there are lots of Farkers who argue that Texas should have its own tag.  Actually they already do.  And it was used for this headline.
 
2014-02-23 03:19:01 PM  

LibertyHiller: I see this shiat every damn day in SF from entitled farks of all classes and colors and I am tired of people abusing the service animal concept and spoiling it for the people who actually need the help.


This.

Saw a guy the other day in the East Bay with his two little mutts in a cafe.
That's bad enough (no way they were BOTH service dogs).

Worst part was, he was holding a blue plastic bag while waiting for his precious latté.
The bag was not empty.

Needless ti say I got the fark outta there and went across the street to Peet's.
 
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