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(NJ.com)   Old hotness: McDonald's hot coffee lawsuit. New hotness: Dunkin' Donuts hot apple cider lawsuit   (nj.com ) divider line 8
    More: Asinine, Dunkin' Donuts, Mcdonald, Essex County, Jennifer Fragoso, New Jersey woman, New Jersey  
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698 clicks; posted to Business » on 22 Feb 2014 at 11:02 AM (1 year ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-02-22 07:57:48 AM  
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Prepare yourselves, here come the people who have no idea what the McDonald's lawsuit is actually about.

It is a shame that the McDonald's lawsuit is still regarded as frivolous.  McDonald's was absolutely in the wrong here.  Yes, I can agree that putting a cup of coffee between your legs is a dumb idea, and there is risk in getting burned...that being said...McDonald's was in the wrong in this case...oh and the dozens of other incidents that occurred prior to the now famous case.

Unfortunately due to the fact that this is a pretty poorly written article that lacks any meaningful information...key one in my opinion being whether or not the car was moving, if she was busy sending a text message and trying to back up at the same time, etc...I am sure we will learn more in the coming weeks about this chick.
2014-02-23 08:24:23 AM  
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relaxitsjustme: What are the odds she dumped it on herself in the hopes of winning a fat lawsuit?


NSFW/NSFL - 1

NSFW/NSFL - 2

Keep in mind this is an old lady with no money troubles...now rethink your question.
2014-02-23 01:55:34 AM  
1 vote:
Coffee held at 140 degrees (or less) is unhygienic, by law.

The coffee could have been at 250 degrees, and if she put it between her legs, it is her OWN damn fault.

Put it in a cup holder. If you do not have a cup holder, do not order coffee.
2014-02-22 03:05:42 PM  
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listernine:Its regarded as frivolous because Stella took the lid off. While it was between her legs. It wasn't handed to her with the lid halfway off. What's personal responsibility again?

Which was addressed in the jury's finding of contributory negligence against Liebeck

spawn73: Why were she awarded 2.7million dollars? Surely she didn't loose that amount of money from the accident.


She wasn't.  The Jury awarded $160,000 for compensatory damages, and the 2.7 mil was punitive against McDs as this had happened before and they had been warned about the high coffee temp but didn't seem to care.  That number btw was calculated based on the profits from coffee sales for two days, and was knocked down on appeal.
2014-02-22 02:53:54 PM  
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subotai54: Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Prepare yourselves, here come the people who have no idea what the McDonald's lawsuit is actually about.

This one is actually better, though... The usual McDonald's defense from Fred and the other Tort Reform people is that coffee is supposed to be brewed* at a really high temperature. Cider does not have that requirement. There's no need for boiling it, and certainly no reason to serve it anywhere near that temp.

*mind you, it's supposed to be held and served at much lower temperatures.

What temperature do you think mcdonalds should serve their coffee at?  130 degrees can cause 3rd degree burns, and 100-110 is usually described as lukewarm or a bit warm.  Should they serve it at 120 and hope to god that you drink it in within a minute?


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130 should be plenty safe, actually.
It shouldn't be 185, which is what McDonald's coffee was.
2014-02-22 01:49:48 PM  
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Endive Wombat * * Smartest * Funniest 2014-02-22 07:57:48 AM Prepare yourselves, here come the people who have no idea what the McDonald's lawsuit is actually about. It is a shame that the McDonald's lawsuit is still regarded as frivolous. McDonald's was absolutely in the wrong here.
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Yes we do. It has to do with an asshat suing because a hot beverage was hot.

It's the DEFINITION of frivolous.

/We need to change our awful tort system in this country.
2014-02-22 01:40:23 PM  
1 vote:

Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Prepare yourselves, here come the people who have no idea what the McDonald's lawsuit is actually about.

This one is actually better, though... The usual McDonald's defense from Fred and the other Tort Reform people is that coffee is supposed to be brewed* at a really high temperature. Cider does not have that requirement. There's no need for boiling it, and certainly no reason to serve it anywhere near that temp.

*mind you, it's supposed to be held and served at much lower temperatures.


What temperature do you think mcdonalds should serve their coffee at?  130 degrees can cause 3rd degree burns, and 100-110 is usually described as lukewarm or a bit warm.  Should they serve it at 120 and hope to god that you drink it in within a minute?
2014-02-22 10:28:28 AM  
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I get it.  Beverages in a container may be hot.  But seriously, unless you're five, you know the lids on hot and cold beverage containers may and most likely will come off in the car if you grab  anywhere near the the top of the cup.
 
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