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2014-02-21 04:29:06 PM
Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.
 
2014-02-21 04:41:06 PM
Suck it, haters!
 
2014-02-21 04:41:54 PM
Being upset all the time over where penis goes tends to make you stressed.  Mocking people for where penis goes on the other hand does not.
 
2014-02-21 04:43:01 PM
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2014-02-21 04:43:38 PM
I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?
 
2014-02-21 04:44:43 PM

KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?


Nope.  You need a proper vice to go with it.  Some like pot, I like whiskey.
 
2014-02-21 04:45:17 PM
Unless the researchers follow up with a couple of concordant studies, take this one with a grain of salt. They need to assess longevity in openly gay people and gay people who suffer from hetero- and bi-phobia.
 
2014-02-21 04:46:35 PM

Smeggy Smurf: KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?

Nope.  You need a proper vice to go with it.  Some like pot, I like whiskey.


Well, I certainly have the booze angle covered.  Hey, it's 15 until 5.  Hmmmm.
 
2014-02-21 04:49:19 PM

krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.


This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?
 
2014-02-21 04:49:38 PM

JackieRabbit: Unless the researchers follow up with a couple of concordant studies, take this one with a grain of salt. They need to assess longevity in openly gay people and gay people who suffer from hetero- and bi-phobia.


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2014-02-21 04:51:14 PM

KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?


If I were to take a guess pulled directly out of my ass, I would guess because those who tend to be so homophobic tend to trend to the poor and uneducated end of the scale.  Eating food that is much worse for you, not affording health care that others could, and probably working a job that is much harder on your body.

krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.


Not for long, though.   Grandpa Crazypants is losing his young generations.  I think there is a time limit on their particular brand of hate.

/they'll be others, though
 
2014-02-21 04:51:57 PM
So if I don't care if you're gay I won't die early from heavy drinking, smoking and overeating?

I really, really, really, don't care if you are gay!
 
2014-02-21 04:54:26 PM

KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?


I still think we need more ninjas and fewer pirates.
 
2014-02-21 04:55:23 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Mocking people for where penis goes on the other hand


I don't use my non-primary hand.  It feels weird.
 
2014-02-21 04:56:27 PM

Smeggy Smurf: KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?

Nope.  You need a proper vice to go with it.  Some like pot, I like whiskey.


Ok, where's the "Why Not Both?" girl when you need her
 
2014-02-21 04:56:32 PM
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2014-02-21 04:57:26 PM

KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?


The causal factor is probably anger. Poor anger management is really bad for your ticker.
 
2014-02-21 04:57:38 PM
To measure homophobia, they looked at answers to questions including, "Should a man who admits that he is a homosexual be allowed to teach in a college or university?" and "Do you think that sexual relations between two adults of the same sex is always wrong, almost always wrong, wrong only sometimes, or not wrong at all?"

Afterwards they sat around and waited for the survey participants to die. Needless to say, this was a very long term study, with some participants still stubbornly refusing to provide data by considerately dropping dead before the allotted research time was concluded. In some cases, volunteers had to be gently persuaded with hammers.
 
2014-02-21 05:01:18 PM
Huh.  I always thought mean people lived longer.

/If you don't like the results of a study, wait a couple years- someone else will come to the exact opposite conclusion.
 
2014-02-21 05:02:05 PM
So not giving a shiat about anything is the secret to life?

/Guess I'll be 150, minimum.
 
2014-02-21 05:06:23 PM
I'm guessing the real issue is that homophobes are concentrated in places where "fried" is one of the food groups.
 
2014-02-21 05:06:26 PM
Good
 
2014-02-21 05:10:21 PM
b.vimeocdn.com
 
2014-02-21 05:10:38 PM
There's that whole correlation vs causation thing.

I suppose those who are homophobic are more likely to be uneducated and live in more isolated communities with poorer healthcare and life choices that tend not to maximize lifespan.

Also 2.5 years is not statistically a big deal. There are SO many things that can affect lifespan. While there is no reason to be homophobic, I have a hard time believing that homophobia itself in any way leads to a shorter life.
 
2014-02-21 05:11:27 PM
We can only hope
 
2014-02-21 05:11:38 PM

Serious Black: JackieRabbit: Unless the researchers follow up with a couple of concordant studies, take this one with a grain of salt. They need to assess longevity in openly gay people and gay people who suffer from hetero- and bi-phobia.

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O RLY?

Yeah, really. Bi-phobia is actually quite common in the gay community. A lot of gays, and I mean a lot, think that bi people are just lying to themselves, refuse to come all the way out of the closet, refuse to adopt a monosexual psychology, etc. This is a load of crap, of course. I've seen gays be openly hostile to bisexuals - just as hostile as homophobes are to them. I asked a gay friend about this and he thinks that some gays feel this way because bisexuals make them look like they choose to be gay.

In actuality, it can be a much harder struggle to come to terms with bisexuality than than it is for homosexuality, since bis have to come to terms with being attracted to both genders; it is rarely a 50-50 sort of thing and gender choice can bounce back and forth. Worse, many bis do not begin to have same-sex desires until they have already married and have children. This happens to gays too, but far less frequently these days, since they don't have to hide and repress their sexuality as much as they once did. Most gays I know tell me they knew they gay at a very young age and never saw any need to pursue anything other than superficial heterosexual relationships (if at all) before coming out.
 
2014-02-21 05:13:07 PM
They have a point.  Just look how long those gay pedophile Catholic priests live.  As they say:  "A boy's butt a day keeps Mr. Death away".
 
2014-02-21 05:15:40 PM

James10952001: Also 2.5 years is not statistically a big deal.


Really? The most significant difference there is - that between men and women - is only 5 years. i would say that 2.5 is VERY significant, statistically.
But we already knew that assholes shorten their lives by being assholes. The so-called "Type A" was identified as being at health risk clear back in the early seventies.
 
2014-02-21 05:18:20 PM

JackieRabbit: Serious Black: JackieRabbit: Unless the researchers follow up with a couple of concordant studies, take this one with a grain of salt. They need to assess longevity in openly gay people and gay people who suffer from hetero- and bi-phobia.

[img3.allvoices.com image 609x480]

O RLY?

Yeah, really. Bi-phobia is actually quite common in the gay community. A lot of gays, and I mean a lot, think that bi people are just lying to themselves, refuse to come all the way out of the closet, refuse to adopt a monosexual psychology, etc. This is a load of crap, of course. I've seen gays be openly hostile to bisexuals - just as hostile as homophobes are to them. I asked a gay friend about this and he thinks that some gays feel this way because bisexuals make them look like they choose to be gay.

In actuality, it can be a much harder struggle to come to terms with bisexuality than than it is for homosexuality, since bis have to come to terms with being attracted to both genders; it is rarely a 50-50 sort of thing and gender choice can bounce back and forth. Worse, many bis do not begin to have same-sex desires until they have already married and have children. This happens to gays too, but far less frequently these days, since they don't have to hide and repress their sexuality as much as they once did. Most gays I know tell me they knew they gay at a very young age and never saw any need to pursue anything other than superficial heterosexual relationships (if at all) before coming out.


I would think being bi woul be very convenient. Roughly double the number of potential sexual partners, 3-somes, orgies without worrying about the gender ratio, I can think of lots of practical advantages and few real disadvantages.

It's definitely not a choice though. I've been straight my whole life and couldn't choose to be gay if my life depended on it. The thought of touching another guy's dick is repulsive. I suspect most who believe it is a choice are in fact bi. If you are truly bi, then yes it's a lifestyle choice.
 
2014-02-21 05:19:38 PM

happydude45: Smeggy Smurf: KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?

Nope.  You need a proper vice to go with it.  Some like pot, I like whiskey.

Ok, where's the "Why Not Both?" girl when you need her


Having gay sex with her barbie.  Duh
 
2014-02-21 05:21:47 PM

jso2897: James10952001: Also 2.5 years is not statistically a big deal.

Really? The most significant difference there is - that between men and women - is only 5 years. i would say that 2.5 is VERY significant, statistically.
But we already knew that assholes shorten their lives by being assholes. The so-called "Type A" was identified as being at health risk clear back in the early seventies.


But how big a sample are we talking about? If you are comparing male to female, it's easy to account for damn near everyone since the vast majority of us are one or the other an we all die.

I'm gonna bet that there's a far smaller sample of data on how homophobic each person who died was. You need a really big sample in order to filter out all the other factors.
 
2014-02-21 05:22:47 PM
I remember when they said eating eggs would increase your cholesterol, and kill you 2.5 years earlier. Now my doctor wants me to eat eggs on a regular basis as a clean source of protein.

I'm not changing dag-nabbit, I'll just stick with what works for me.
 
2014-02-21 05:26:35 PM

NobleHam: I'm guessing the real issue is that homophobes are concentrated in places where "fried" is one of the food groups.


And lager is the other.
 
2014-02-21 05:31:31 PM

KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?


That whole correlation/causation thing.  But yeah, there might be a third, causative correlative.  Or even (gasp) multiple contributing factors

*don't scare the media like that!*
 
2014-02-21 05:33:50 PM

CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?


You're a Libertarian?
 
2014-02-21 05:34:12 PM

lilbjorn: NobleHam: I'm guessing the real issue is that homophobes are concentrated in places where "fried" is one of the food groups.

And lager is the other.


Sooo....America?
 
2014-02-21 05:34:34 PM
The stress that comes with living in perpetual fear of something will lead to an earlier grave.
 
2014-02-21 05:34:42 PM

CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?


Yes, but then their grandkids repent and we all mock WBC.
 
2014-02-21 05:43:51 PM

Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?


I consider myself a moderate libertarian and am not homophobic. It's that whole personal freedom thing, live your life how you like, as long as it doesn't negatively impact mine, I'm not going to have a problem with it.
 
2014-02-21 05:49:06 PM
That's like half of the online gaming community right there.
 
2014-02-21 05:57:33 PM

James10952001: Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?

I consider myself a moderate libertarian and am not homophobic. It's that whole personal freedom thing, live your life how you like, as long as it doesn't negatively impact mine, I'm not going to have a problem with it.


This, a hundred times over. If you are an adult you should be able to do any damn thing you want as long as you aren't harming anyone else. Races, sexual preferences, religion, who cares? Humans are humans and should have the freedom to do whatever they want, again, as long as you aren't harming another person.
 
2014-02-21 06:09:31 PM

James10952001: jso2897: James10952001: Also 2.5 years is not statistically a big deal.

Really? The most significant difference there is - that between men and women - is only 5 years. i would say that 2.5 is VERY significant, statistically.
But we already knew that assholes shorten their lives by being assholes. The so-called "Type A" was identified as being at health risk clear back in the early seventies.

But how big a sample are we talking about? If you are comparing male to female, it's easy to account for damn near everyone since the vast majority of us are one or the other an we all die.

I'm gonna bet that there's a far smaller sample of data on how homophobic each person who died was. You need a really big sample in order to filter out all the other factors.


Don't get me wrong - I'm by no means buying into this study - and anyway, like I said - it's not like it is really suggesting anything we don't already know about personality type and longevity.
 
2014-02-21 06:17:54 PM
What's really funny is how much anger and hate I see directed at "homophobes" by all the homophiles. Apparently that anger, hate, and stress are good for you.

/The more you know
/Don't believe me? Look above this posting.
 
2014-02-21 06:19:56 PM

jso2897: James10952001: Also 2.5 years is not statistically a big deal.

Really? The most significant difference there is - that between men and women - is only 5 years. i would say that 2.5 is VERY significant, statistically.
But we already knew that assholes shorten their lives by being assholes. The so-called "Type A" was identified as being at health risk clear back in the early seventies.


I thought being black was a large statistical gap. So if you are a black homophobe your life expectancy is about 8 years.
 
2014-02-21 06:49:13 PM

James10952001: Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?

I consider myself a moderate libertarian and am not homophobic. It's that whole personal freedom thing, live your life how you like, as long as it doesn't negatively impact mine, I'm not going to have a problem with it.


Yeah, I need to remember that. I have a tendency to judge Libertarians by the people running on their ticket. While I'm a registered Democrat I'm far more liberal than anyone running it seems.
 
2014-02-21 06:49:22 PM

Vitamin Pb: What's really funny is how much anger and hate I see directed at "homophobes" by all the homophiles. Apparently that anger, hate, and stress are good for you.

/The more you know
/Don't believe me? Look above this posting.


I have no anger towards homophobes so long as they keep it to themselves. I disagree with their views but as long as they aren't acting on them, they're entitled to their opinion.
 
2014-02-21 07:38:03 PM

Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?


Good one!
 
2014-02-21 07:43:00 PM
I still think the word "homophobia" is a misnomer.  Doesn't "homo" mean either "human" as in "homo sapiens?"  Or "same" as in "homogeneous" or "homosexual?"  So wouldn't "homophobia" mean either "fear of humans" or "fear of sameness?"  I think the real fear is fear of GAYness, so to speak.  Calling it "homophobia" makes it sound like "fear of homos" and isn't that a little insensitive?

Just wondering. I could be wrong.
 
2014-02-21 08:35:02 PM

slotz: I still think the word "homophobia" is a misnomer.  Doesn't "homo" mean either "human" as in "homo sapiens?"  Or "same" as in "homogeneous" or "homosexual?"  So wouldn't "homophobia" mean either "fear of humans" or "fear of sameness?"  I think the real fear is fear of GAYness, so to speak.  Calling it "homophobia" makes it sound like "fear of homos" and isn't that a little insensitive?

Just wondering. I could be wrong.


You are wrong. However, it's a bit more complicated - the original meaning of the term was medical - it describes a very serious mental disorder, a subvariety of paranoid schizophrenia that results if fearful delusions and violent impulses toward real or imagined homosexuals. It's a very rare condition, and most of it's sufferers are dangers to themselves and others.
But the term has expanded to mean something far more casual and generalized, and as such, in that usage, it is colloquial - not technically accurate. But that happens with language - especially a vital, living language like English.

But no - amateur semantic deconstruction of words with widely accepted meanings doesn't change those meanings.
 
2014-02-21 09:00:36 PM

jso2897: slotz: I still think the word "homophobia" is a misnomer.  Doesn't "homo" mean either "human" as in "homo sapiens?"  Or "same" as in "homogeneous" or "homosexual?"  So wouldn't "homophobia" mean either "fear of humans" or "fear of sameness?"  I think the real fear is fear of GAYness, so to speak.  Calling it "homophobia" makes it sound like "fear of homos" and isn't that a little insensitive?

Just wondering. I could be wrong.

You are wrong. However, it's a bit more complicated - the original meaning of the term was medical - it describes a very serious mental disorder, a subvariety of paranoid schizophrenia that results if fearful delusions and violent impulses toward real or imagined homosexuals. It's a very rare condition, and most of it's sufferers are dangers to themselves and others.
But the term has expanded to mean something far more casual and generalized, and as such, in that usage, it is colloquial - not technically accurate. But that happens with language - especially a vital, living language like English.

But no - amateur semantic deconstruction of words with widely accepted meanings doesn't change those meanings.


Wow, what a load of bullshiat.  Lighten up, Francis.
 
2014-02-21 09:12:37 PM

Tigger: KidneyStone: I'm having a hard time believing homophobia decreases your lifespans by 2.5 years.  I'm pretty sure there's a completely different factor here like maybe just not being an uptight prick all your life is more relevant.

Then again I'm not homophobic but I am an uptight prick.  Does it even out?

The causal factor is probably anger. Poor anger management is really bad for your ticker.


I'd go with this.... if you are unreasonably angry for ANY reason, your life span most likely goes down.
 
2014-02-21 09:16:13 PM

numbone: So if I don't care if you're gay I won't die early from heavy drinking, smoking and overeating?

I really, really, really, don't care if you are gay!


You should post about this in a few more threads, just to make it perfectly clear that you don't care.
 
2014-02-21 09:17:56 PM
Only the good die young.
 
2014-02-21 09:38:56 PM
Hey it's only 2.5 years off your life, and it's probably the diaper-wearing stage of your life. I'm not a homophobe but if I was, that really doesn't give me much incentive to change my thinking.
 
2014-02-21 10:05:00 PM

slotz: jso2897: slotz: I still think the word "homophobia" is a misnomer.  Doesn't "homo" mean either "human" as in "homo sapiens?"  Or "same" as in "homogeneous" or "homosexual?"  So wouldn't "homophobia" mean either "fear of humans" or "fear of sameness?"  I think the real fear is fear of GAYness, so to speak.  Calling it "homophobia" makes it sound like "fear of homos" and isn't that a little insensitive?

Just wondering. I could be wrong.

You are wrong. However, it's a bit more complicated - the original meaning of the term was medical - it describes a very serious mental disorder, a subvariety of paranoid schizophrenia that results if fearful delusions and violent impulses toward real or imagined homosexuals. It's a very rare condition, and most of it's sufferers are dangers to themselves and others.
But the term has expanded to mean something far more casual and generalized, and as such, in that usage, it is colloquial - not technically accurate. But that happens with language - especially a vital, living language like English.

But no - amateur semantic deconstruction of words with widely accepted meanings doesn't change those meanings.

Wow, what a load of bullshiat.  Lighten up, Francis.


Amen.  What a farking tool.
 
2014-02-21 10:16:42 PM

happydude45: James10952001: Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?

I consider myself a moderate libertarian and am not homophobic. It's that whole personal freedom thing, live your life how you like, as long as it doesn't negatively impact mine, I'm not going to have a problem with it.

This, a hundred times over. If you are an adult you should be able to do any damn thing you want as long as you aren't harming anyone else. Races, sexual preferences, religion, who cares? Humans are humans and should have the freedom to do whatever they want, again, as long as you aren't harming another person.


Why have any regulations at all, then?  If you harm someone, then you should go to jail for that... CEO, dude driving drunk, etc.

Let's just have no laws except for physical harm against someone else. Wouldn't that be great?
 
2014-02-22 01:48:37 AM
You're also required to watch Fox News 8 hours a day and give Hannity a bj once a month.
 
2014-02-22 01:12:39 PM
 
2014-02-22 01:44:31 PM

legion_of_doo: happydude45: James10952001: Bane of Broone: CygnusDarius: krelborne: Yet Westboro Baptist lives on.

This is because they teach their kids to be homophobic shiatbirds. It's a self-perpetuating hate machine.

/Also
//What if I'm homophobic but smoke a lot of marijuana?

You're a Libertarian?

I consider myself a moderate libertarian and am not homophobic. It's that whole personal freedom thing, live your life how you like, as long as it doesn't negatively impact mine, I'm not going to have a problem with it.

This, a hundred times over. If you are an adult you should be able to do any damn thing you want as long as you aren't harming anyone else. Races, sexual preferences, religion, who cares? Humans are humans and should have the freedom to do whatever they want, again, as long as you aren't harming another person.

Why have any regulations at all, then?  If you harm someone, then you should go to jail for that... CEO, dude driving drunk, etc.

Let's just have no laws except for physical harm against someone else. Wouldn't that be great?


No, I don't think it would. I'm referring to personal liberty, not complete lack of rules and regulations. When you are in your own home doing your own thing not negatively impacting anyone else, why would anyone have a problem with that?
 
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