SR_NightBane: But, you see, when you do that it tends to poison the discussion. You use, and I'm certain you are aware of it since you seem a bright individual, rather toxic terms. In and of itself that is fine but as Le Bon pointed out, crowds are creatures of emotion, so when you stir up that sort of emotion it tends to send the rabble scurrying toward the loud, authoritative voices on the extremes on either side of a debate,
Krustofsky: Is Yanukovich getting the hell out of Dodge? Is anyone waiting for him in Dubai? Putin?
RanDomino: I'm a fan of a prefigurative strategy of taking personal risk, challenging everyday authority and coercion, and winning small victories in order to make people feel shame of their weakness and to inspire them with the possibility of resistance so that they too might become willing to rediscover their own strength.
RanDomino: SR_NightBaneSimply put, how do you reverse the flow of power so that instead of aggregating it diffuses? How do you enfranchise the total population and create a universal sense of agency when it has been proven a certain segment of the population function on instincts similar to or indistinguishable from those of herd animals? If you can't enfranchise the populace universally, how do you keep highly motivated individuals with a bent towards acquiring power from manipulating the situation to their benefit?I'm a fan of a prefigurative strategy of taking personal risk, challenging everyday authority and coercion, and winning small victories in order to make people feel shame of their weakness and to inspire them with the possibility of resistance so that they too might become willing to rediscover their own strength. The key idea that I've only recently been understanding is that old standards of honor played an important role in organizing Stateless societies, and still exist among people who believe themselves more civilized than that (or who believe nothing at all). Community comes from trust and trust comes from consistent success over time. Unfortunately, there are many who still feel that self-serving activism and hooliganism are somehow productive, when what we need is to be building upstanding community, but I'm working on them.
RanDomino: Your big-picture view is working against you. We don't need a one-size-fits-all fix or a mass movement. We need a couple million little movements, which gradually come together.
RanDomino: Kittypie070*sniffs the apparent buzzword "hooliganism" with extreme care*People who seem to think that fighting cops and smashing windows are ends unto themselves.
Deep Contact: Poland, who used cavalry to attack German tanks. Still can't figure that one out.
Compilation of Lenin statues coming down across Ukrainehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdBTG7PBcDw
Kittypie070: Ohhhh one thing you do NOT do is create martyrs, Yanu you farking dimwit.Nice going.In about a century, those people you had shot by your little sniper wusses are gonna be elevated to sainthood.
also, espreso live is operational again in YouTube
Kittypie070: Ustym Golodnyuk, a 19-year-old Democratic Alliance volunteer, was shot dead by a sniper early on Feb. 20.
supageil: If the Ukrainian president really is in Kharkiv attempting to break the east off into a separate, Russia-backed country, he should be hanged for treason.
flexflint: They're inside the palace I think; they're finding documents in the river, a hovercraft, a 60's classic car (?), ... . Anyone have a stream of that camera?Ceaușescu, Saddam, Mubarak, Gaddafi, others; meet Yanukovych.
flexflint: A giant hall with boats ... .
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