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2014-02-21 10:25:50 AM
12 votes:
Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.


wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.
2014-02-21 11:21:45 AM
11 votes:

SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.


Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.
2014-02-21 12:15:55 PM
5 votes:

SlothB77: crooked cop


Like there's any other kind.
2014-02-21 12:26:51 PM
4 votes:

Rincewind53: That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.


And juries are automatically inclined to grant more credibility to the officer and less to the defendant, so even if it's just a straight he-said, she-said with no other corroborating evidence, that will frequently be enough to get a conviction, even though it shouldn't be.
2014-02-21 04:16:15 PM
3 votes:

Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.


Once in a very great while, you get a judge that publicly tells the cop he's full of shiat--in those words--and drops the charges.

*disclaimer: you must be white, the judge must be white, your witness must be white and a former state trooper, and the cop must be black and have no evidence to back up his claims. You must have photographic evidence, and reams of additional evidence to back up your claim that the officer in question is not, and I quote, "a human lie detector." But the main thing--you must be white. If you are black or brown and so are your witnesses, you're farked.
2014-02-21 02:31:18 PM
3 votes:

SlothB77: Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.

wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.


Nothing I read in the article suggests the cop did not get away with it- just because a lawsuit was filed, and there is a video, in no way implies the cop will be found guilty of anything.  All that happened due to the video is the case against Jackson was dropped after six months.  The cop has not suffered one bit, so I would have to vote for 'the cop got away with it'...
2014-02-21 02:09:20 PM
3 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?



...while black.
2014-02-21 02:05:47 PM
3 votes:

Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.


Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight.  Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason.   Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"?  Guess who is at fault?  Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc?  Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.
2014-02-21 01:44:41 PM
3 votes:

Tr0mBoNe: I had a cop lie FOR me once.. it was pretty sweet. Turned a $500 ticket plus 1 week driving ban into a $120 dollar ticket. Turns out you shouldn't be caught going 135 kph in a 90 zone.

But, douchenozzle cops exist and boy they sure don't want cameras recording them.


Well, duh, you don't live in the US. I don't know for a fact if Canadian cops are better than US cops, but I would suspect it would be probable. Especially NYC cops.

/This cop is one of the 99.9% that give the other 0.1% a bad name
2014-02-21 01:20:56 PM
3 votes:
I don't think you guys fully understand the situation.

assets.nydailynews.com

This guy was scary. He got off easy. Back in the day, it would've the plunger handle up the bumhole.

You have to understand that cops are like gods to us mere mortals. When they say "jump" -to ask "how high?" is basically admitting that you do illegal drugs. Never ask "how high" to a cop.
DAR [TotalFark]
2014-02-21 12:59:51 PM
3 votes:
Lustitia needs to put down the scales, remove the blindfold, & start holding a video camera........k/dar
2014-02-21 04:39:20 PM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?


It says he was accused of that, based on "evidence" of keys in the ignition that the video shows couldn't possibly have been seen by the cop, since he didn't approach the driver's side of the vehicle as he claimed to have done.

The way to prevent cops lying in their reports and on the stand is to prosecute them for obstruction and perjury when they do. I won't be holding my breath till that happens.
2014-02-21 03:09:17 PM
2 votes:
Ah, yes, the cop got him for the horrible crime of 'sitting in your car and minding your own business while black' or, SIYCAMYOBWB.
2014-02-21 02:45:56 PM
2 votes:

FitzShivering: jscart: From the video clip on the site, this guy was in the drivers seat and didn't "slide over". The end of the video show the guy leaving the door open and the cop at the rear. Hard to tell if he walked towards the front more.

Cop is still a dick, but if you don't have a license stay the fark out of the drivers seat in any vehicle.

Do you have a different video, are you on acid, or are you a police officer?


I watched the video pretty carefully and noted a light section in the drivers side window of the SUV from the beginning of the clip that didn't move until the door opened revealing it to be Mr. Jacksons leg. It really appeared that he was sitting in the drivers seat IMHO. That being said, it is equally clear that he wasn't operating the SUV when the cop scraped it, and no the clip didn't show the cop checking the ignition for keys, so maybe both parties slightly adjusted their memories of those details.
In the end Jackson didn't cause this accident and yeah that cop should have just been a guy about it and accepted the blame that was really his,  it was just a scraped fender and he wouldn't have been in any real trouble. What really bothers me about this is if this is how that cop handles a small problem, what does he do about a big one? His superiors should think about that.
2014-02-21 02:26:36 PM
2 votes:

SlothB77: Officer Christopher Oliver wrote in the criminal complaint that he "went to the driver's side door of defendant's vehicle and observed the door open and the keys in the ignition" before arresting Jackson for operating a vehicle with a suspended license, according to the document.

But a surveillance video Jackson obtained from a neighbor clearly shows he immediately shut the door upon exiting the car and that the cop never went near the driver's side as he claimed.

wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.


What do you mean, "would have gotten away with it"? He kidnapped somebody and committed perjury, and did get away with it.
2014-02-21 02:18:34 PM
2 votes:
hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.


The SUV is parked for the whole event. Of course, some states consider you 'operating' a motor vehicle if the keys are in the ignition and you're in the drivers seat. The victim says he was in the passenger seat but the video shows him getting out on the drivers side. He said he slid over. There is usally a console between the drivers and passengers seat in a Ford Expedition. Unless the passenger door is jammed, I don't see a large guy like him 'sliding over'
2014-02-21 02:18:00 PM
2 votes:

cirby: People who file lawsuits versus police departments over things like this need to change tactics.

Instead of "I'm suing for a million dollars," make it "I'm suing for a million dollars, OR for $100,000 plus firing the cops involved."


Honestly, that just isn't adequate.  This kind of abuse of authority needs to be severely punished.  Anything less than substantial prison time is a complete farking joke.
2014-02-21 02:09:03 PM
2 votes:
Well, that's his own fault for goin' around being black.
2014-02-21 01:44:16 PM
2 votes:
Enjoy your two weeks paid suspension, douche! If you frame another innocent person, we'll make it three next time!!!
2014-02-21 01:12:58 PM
2 votes:
What I want to know is did he have his lights and sirens on?

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.
2014-02-21 12:53:06 PM
2 votes:

SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.


every single time.
pigs.
2014-02-22 04:25:33 AM
1 votes:
Obviously the crash was the fault of the police officer.  He hit a parked car.  To claim that the victim somehow caused the crash is insane.  The city should pay for the damages, and discipline the officer for lying in his report about the incident.

Also, it's pretty apparent from the video that the guy was sitting in the driver's seat the whole time.  In addition to the video "conveniently" ending as the officer walks towards the vehicle, I find it even more convenient that the video starts too late to show the vehicle pulling into the parking spot.  If it did, we would be able to clearly see the alleged person who pulled in and parked it (assuming that they then exited the vehicle while Robert Jackson waited in there).

In reality, I think we'd see Robert Jackson, the lone occupant of the vehicle, pulling into the parking spot and sitting there, waiting for his girlfriend, which would then be good evidence of him driving without a valid license.
2014-02-21 07:45:00 PM
1 votes:
Well, he was guilty of being black, so I can understand why the police treated him in this manner.


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2014-02-21 07:05:07 PM
1 votes:

thamike: James10952001: thamike: James10952001: I thought they always approach the passenger side if possible? Gives them a better view of the driver's hands, and it's easier to see if they are trying to pull a gun from the glove box. Also keeps them further from passing traffic.

I've only ever been pulled over once, but he went to the passenger side.

No they don't, and your cop was retarded.

He was polite and professional, let me know I had a light out, checked my insurance, asked me to slow down a little and then sent me on my way.

From the passenger side, right?


Yep, he came up and tapped on the passenger window. I put it down and handed him what he asked for. I could understand why, there were cars zipping by the drivers side at 50 mph every minute or so. I wouldn't want to stand between a car and a highway lane at night either. I don't want to be the meat in a car sandwich.
2014-02-21 07:01:51 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: here's hoping the cops involved all get to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.


I guess that makes you an even bigger asshole than you think the cops are.
2014-02-21 06:36:30 PM
1 votes:

Whodat: Even if I am sitting in the driver's side with the key in the ignition, unless the engine is on and I am moving, I am technically NOT operating the car.


try telling a cop that when you're drunk.  Sitting in your car with the keys inside it can/will get you a DUI, even if you are doing the right thing and trying to sleep off your drunk.  They don't even have to be in the ignition.
2014-02-21 05:32:22 PM
1 votes:

James10952001: thamike: James10952001: I thought they always approach the passenger side if possible? Gives them a better view of the driver's hands, and it's easier to see if they are trying to pull a gun from the glove box. Also keeps them further from passing traffic.

I've only ever been pulled over once, but he went to the passenger side.

No they don't, and your cop was retarded.

He was polite and professional, let me know I had a light out, checked my insurance, asked me to slow down a little and then sent me on my way.


From the passenger side, right?
2014-02-21 04:59:07 PM
1 votes:
Police: stop committing crimes, you're supposed to be good guys.
2014-02-21 04:47:53 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

It says he was accused of that, based on "evidence" of keys in the ignition that the video shows couldn't possibly have been seen by the cop, since he didn't approach the driver's side of the vehicle as he claimed to have done.

The way to prevent cops lying in their reports and on the stand is to prosecute them for obstruction and perjury when they do. I won't be holding my breath till that happens.


It doesn't show him approach the drivers side door in the video but the video also doesn't show the whole event.  It's entirely possible that the cops walks up to the door later on in the incident.  As I mentioned up thread, I'm not one to usually defend cops but in this case, the video DID show that the guy was lying about not being the drivers seat.  So why would anyone trust him not to lie about whether the cop walked up the door shortly after the video cuts out?
2014-02-21 04:25:42 PM
1 votes:

thamike: Whodat: Even if I am sitting in the driver's side with the key in the ignition, unless the engine is on and I am moving, I am technically NOT operating the car.

I agree.  State governments do not.  You can get a DUI if the keys are in the ignition and the car is parked.


Sometimes you can get a DUI if the car is parked and the keys aren't even in the ignition.
2014-02-21 04:08:00 PM
1 votes:

lantawa: GanjSmokr: lantawa: Burning_Monk: lantawa: The guy WAS driving, but he was parked at the time. Video obviously shows that fact. Bad luck for him (bad luck that HE created by being where he should not have been) that a cop's bad driving got him involved. Guy should NOT have been in the driver's seat. Key's probably were in the ignition. Boo Hoo.....welcome to Fark.

//good luck with that lawsuit, pal.

1/10 meh

Clear your mind and look at the video.  The guy's full of shiat when he says he "slid over."  He was in the driver's seat and in control of the vehicle without a valid license. Ticket time. Lawsuit tossed


Since he hadn't actually done anything wrong, they dropped the charges...

Jackson had to spend the night in jail and appear in court multiple times before the criminal case against him was dropped by prosecutors six months later, records show.

Next:  the lawsuit....WHAR LAWSUIT?  WHAR?

//thx for clarification. Yeah.  A hassle, I know, but one that he could have avoided by not being where he was, while white or black.


Just like a chick who gets raped could have avoided it had she not taken a short cut down that alley?
2014-02-21 03:51:45 PM
1 votes:
Here is another situation where there seems to be a serious flaw in the way the legal system works.

In all cases, it is supposed to be proved, beyond doubt, that a person is guilty before being convicted.  But in the cases of minor offenses like this, the burden of proof actually shifts to proving that you are innocent.  This is because law enforcement officers are supposed to be above reproach, incapable of lieing, and infallable.  Therefore, their accusation is all the needed proof of a person's guilt.
The same exact thing holds true for those "infallable" automated systems.  Since it's impossible for them to make a mistake, they must be correct.

So the case proceeds from the standpoint that guilt is already proven, unless you can show otherwise.

That is backwards and wrong.  But I suppose the percentage of cases where a person actually IS guilty of whatever minor infraction they are accused of, is so high, that how backwards the assumptions are rarely get brought to light.
2014-02-21 03:45:23 PM
1 votes:
Yeah.  I'm not cop defender but I think this video blows this guy's own case.  The video clearly shows him sitting in the driver's seat prior to the collision.  You can even see him (or his leg) react to the collision and move around before he gets out.  As far as saying it contradicts the cop's statement, that's not necessarily true.  Sure, the guy closes the door initially but the end of the video shows the guy with the door open again the the cop walking toward him...before it conveniently cuts off.  So while the video doesn't show the cop not looking in the driver door, it also doesn't show him NOT looking in the driver's door.

For the people saying the cop clearly lied so everything is says is suspect, what does it mean when the video shows the guy clearly lied?

/still a dick move to arrest the guy, especially after crashing into him
2014-02-21 03:13:42 PM
1 votes:

Whodat: Even if I am sitting in the driver's side with the key in the ignition, unless the engine is on and I am moving, I am technically NOT operating the car.


I agree.  State governments do not.  You can get a DUI if the keys are in the ignition and the car is parked.
2014-02-21 03:11:07 PM
1 votes:
Even if I am sitting in the driver's side with the key in the ignition, unless the engine is on and I am moving, I am technically NOT operating the car.
2014-02-21 03:05:11 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: What I want to know is did he have his lights and sirens on?

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.


A cop without lights and siren ran a stop sign and crashed into a friend of mine. She was briefly unconscious, so he took the liberty of unfastening her seat belt so he could issue a ticket to her.
2014-02-21 02:57:55 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: show me: Especially NYC cops.

Anyone is better than NYPD.


challenge accepted:

LAPD
2014-02-21 02:50:30 PM
1 votes:

GanjSmokr: Watching the video another time, the cop first starts walking towards the passenger side of the vehicle... like he initially believed the guy in there was in the passenger seat... until he saw the guy get out of the driver's side.

When the guy gets out of the car he most definitely closed the door, too.  Even when he opens it from the outside, as the vid is ending you can tell he's about to close it again.


The only weird thing is that at 0:06 you can see something move in the driver's window.  IMO it looks like someone reacting to the collision, but it could be from the collision itself.  Other than that, I agree with you.  The police had just driven by the car and presumably seen someone sitting in it.  As soon as the cop walks back toward the car, he immediately goes into the middle of the street to the passenger's side.

I could see both sides making a case from that video -- except that the cop has already been caught lying IMO his credibility w.r.t the incident is already questionable.  Luckily for the cop, the courts will believe everything else he says as the gospel.

\\ Fark Law School GED
2014-02-21 02:48:22 PM
1 votes:
I was driving southbound on Roosevelt Ave (1 way, SOUTHBOUND)   when a 4x4 pulled out in front of me going North.  I slammed on the breaks, somehow he also stopped, as well as the cars behind me on this busy street.    He then flipped me off prior to backing off of the 1 way street.

dumb people are born every second of every day.
2014-02-21 02:40:57 PM
1 votes:

Harry Freakstorm: hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.

The SUV is parked for the whole event. Of course, some states consider you 'operating' a motor vehicle if the keys are in the ignition and you're in the drivers seat. The victim says he was in the passenger seat but the video shows him getting out on the drivers side. He said he slid over. There is usally a console between the drivers and passengers seat in a Ford Expedition. Unless the passenger door is jammed, I don't see a large guy like him 'sliding over'


Don't know if it's been said or not but you can see his light colored pants sitting in the driver's seat the entire time.
2014-02-21 02:33:28 PM
1 votes:

jscart: From the video clip on the site, this guy was in the drivers seat and didn't "slide over". The end of the video show the guy leaving the door open and the cop at the rear. Hard to tell if he walked towards the front more.

Cop is still a dick, but if you don't have a license stay the fark out of the drivers seat in any vehicle.


Do you have a different video, are you on acid, or are you a police officer?
2014-02-21 02:26:41 PM
1 votes:

Dimensio: I predict, now, that police unions will pressure the state (or the city) for legislation mandating that any security cameras in the city be retrofitted with devices that shut them down when a police radio is in range.


Nah, that would keep them from using the cameras for their own benefit.  Camera registration would probably serve their goals better.  This way when they're accused of doing something wrong, the camera can either exonerate them or conveniently malfunction.
2014-02-21 02:24:13 PM
1 votes:

Harry Freakstorm: hardinparamedic: Bathia_Mapes: A citation for what? Sitting on the passenger seat of his girlfriend's car?

The article says that he was driving with a suspended license. Since I can't see the video, did he?

Regardless, it was a dick move, and an example of "Respect Mah authoritah" contempt of cop BS.

The SUV is parked for the whole event. Of course, some states consider you 'operating' a motor vehicle if the keys are in the ignition and you're in the drivers seat. The victim says he was in the passenger seat but the video shows him getting out on the drivers side. He said he slid over. There is usally a console between the drivers and passengers seat in a Ford Expedition. Unless the passenger door is jammed, I don't see a large guy like him 'sliding over'


Chances are he was indeed in the driver's side the whole time and may even have driven the vehicle but they don't have any evidence of it. It was parked at the time. They do have evidence of the cop's misdeeds though.

Cop needs some unpaid vacation time and the city needs to fix the guy's vehicle.
2014-02-21 02:16:19 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: FitzShivering: Fissile: Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight.  Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason.   Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"?  Guess who is at fault?  Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc?  Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.

To be fair, most people, not just most cops, will lie if they have a reason to.

Granted, cops usually have a more pressing reason to do so.

Non-cop lies don't usually won't cost me tens of thousands, or land me in prison for 25 years.


I don't disagree with you.  Well, maybe on the tens of thousands.  I've known plenty of executives to cost people tens of thousands by lying to them, because the reason was they wanted more money themselves.  But, yeah, you don't assume (nowadays) they're there to protect you.
2014-02-21 02:16:02 PM
1 votes:
People who file lawsuits versus police departments over things like this need to change tactics.

Instead of "I'm suing for a million dollars," make it "I'm suing for a million dollars, OR for $100,000 plus firing the cops involved."
2014-02-21 02:10:34 PM
1 votes:
I predict, now, that police unions will pressure the state (or the city) for legislation mandating that any security cameras in the city be retrofitted with devices that shut them down when a police radio is in range.
2014-02-21 02:10:30 PM
1 votes:
A cop rear ended one of our deivery drivers at a red light in Boston. He then claimed the driver had put his truck in reverse and backed into him, and cited him.
I say it on just about every law enforcement thread. Aside from a very few, most cops are just complete dirtbags. It's hard to have even the slightest ounce of respect for them. It's too bad, I know alot of people who tell their kids at a young age not to trust the police. When I was a kid, thats who I was told to look for or call in an emergency.
2014-02-21 02:07:57 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: Rincewind53: SlothB77: wow.  once again, if there wasn't video, the crooked cop would have gotten away with it.  can't imagine all the times they must have gotten away with it before.

Exactly. Thank god for video.

This just emphasizes what I've known for years; police reports are routinely lies. Anyone who automatically believes what a police officer writes in his report is simply fooling themselves.

That's not to say that every police officer lies, or that that all reports are lies. But police officers  routinely embellish facts, and if they committed any wrongdoing themselves, expect them to lie about it.

Police reports can be accurate, if the policeman has no dog in the fight.  Fact is cops will always lie if they have a reason to, and they usually have a reason.   Get into an accident with an off duty cop, or someone with "juice"?  Guess who is at fault?  Cop thinks you "dissed" him. or he doesn't like your race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc?  Guess who is going to get the blame?

Recording all police interactions with citizens should be required by law.


To be fair, most people, not just most cops, will lie if they have a reason to.

Granted, cops usually have a more pressing reason to do so.
2014-02-21 02:07:29 PM
1 votes:
"I'm still a little shocked they can actually do that," Jackson said.

Oh, the naive.

show me: /This cop is one of the 99.9% that give the other 0.1% a bad name


Sadly, so much "this".
2014-02-21 01:43:39 PM
1 votes:

timujin: Yeah, it's your computer, the surveillance video that shows the cop coming the wrong way down the street, then backing into the SUV is at the top of the article.


Yikes.

We had an idiot like that here. Only instead of causing dents, he killed two people after running a red light and t-boning them at 90 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone.

The fact he only got six months in jail is a goddamn travesty.
2014-02-21 01:41:13 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: timujin: if only there was a video of some sort to answer your question...


/no, he didn't have his lights on

Is there a video? All I saw in TFA was a picture, no video. Maybe it's a problem with my PC, Flash and Silverlight don't load due to our corporate security software.

If he didn't have his lights on, then he's an idiot and totally at fault.


Yeah, it's your computer, the surveillance video that shows the cop coming the wrong way down the street, then backing into the SUV is at the top of the article.
2014-02-21 01:15:11 PM
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hardinparamedic: What I want to know is did he have his lights and sirens on?

If he did, the fact he was going down a one way street isn't the problem, because all states have traffic exemptions for emergency services to disregard traffic laws, but they have to do so in a reasonable, safe manner. Requesting the right of way, not automatically granted it.

However, arresting the guy for something that should have garnered, at most, a citation, was a dick move, and an example of contempt of cop for embarassing him. Bad cop, no donuts for you.


if only there was a video of some sort to answer your question...


/no, he didn't have his lights on
2014-02-21 12:16:20 PM
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I had a cop lie FOR me once.. it was pretty sweet. Turned a $500 ticket plus 1 week driving ban into a $120 dollar ticket. Turns out you shouldn't be caught going 135 kph in a 90 zone.

But, douchenozzle cops exist and boy they sure don't want cameras recording them.
 
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